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ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/27/2016 8:43 am
Figured this was big enough for it's own thread, and maybe for any and all non NYY/NYM trade talk.

According to a Chicago based MLB columnist, the White Sox "love" Red Sox #2 prospect Andrew Benintendi. If trade talks continue to progress with Chris Sale, he could be the front man in a multi player deal.

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Phil Rogers & #10004; @philgrogers
Can say @whitesox love @RedSox CF Andrew Benintendi. He could be the front man in a multi-player Chris Sale trade if talks progress.


Elsewhere, Papelbon blew his 2nd consecutive save last night with the Nationals prompting Dusty to consider a change at closer.

With Chapman already dealt, they can turn their attention to 3 other trade targets: Andrew Miller, Wade Davis, and David Robertson. With the Nats taking Trea Turner, Giolito, and Robles off the table, Miller and Davis might be out of the question, but Robertson could be an option.
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arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 10:32 am : link
.327 BABIP last year compared to .257 this year also tells you there was some bad luck involved last year but not this year. I didn't see a lot of CHW games last year but IIRC, the defense behind him was kinda garbage in 2015.
Sale is  
RAIN : 7/27/2016 5:04 pm : link
worth Profar and Gallo plus.

I don't think Sale is getting moved.

I'm thinking any deal would start with Mazara.
Atlanta Braves  
Jay on the Island : 7/27/2016 5:54 pm : link
Trade P Lucas Harrell and ex-met P Dario Alvarez to the Rangers for 2013 1st round pick Travis Demeritte. Great trade for Atlanta IMO as they get a kid in high A who already has 25 homeruns this year.
I like Sale...  
Dunedin81 : 7/27/2016 7:24 pm : link
For some teams that's a ----load of eggs to put in that sort of basket. For the Sox, with a lot of young position players at the MLB level, I don't think it's as big a consideration. Dealing Moncada or Benintendi would be a blow, but with what they have under team control for the next few years they'll bounce back. But for the Yankees that would be a very tough row to hoe, for precisely that reason. If his arm falls off, which it certainly could, you have nothing to show for the loss of half your farm system.
RE: Sale is  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/27/2016 8:09 pm : link
In comment 13047414 RAIN said:
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worth Profar and Gallo plus.

I don't think Sale is getting moved.

I'm thinking any deal would start with Mazara.


From what I've read, nobody wants Gallo at this point and the Rangers are actually "hiding him" in AAA so not to be exposed in the majors.
Lucroy  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/28/2016 11:51 am : link
not in the starting line up today....Possibly on the move?
RE: Lucroy  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2016 12:10 pm : link
In comment 13048345 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:
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not in the starting line up today....Possibly on the move?


Poor numbers vs. lefties the past 2 seasons.
RE: RE: Sale is  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2016 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13047594 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13047414 RAIN said:


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worth Profar and Gallo plus.

I don't think Sale is getting moved.

I'm thinking any deal would start with Mazara.



From what I've read, nobody wants Gallo at this point and the Rangers are actually "hiding him" in AAA so not to be exposed in the majors.


Then why did they call him up this week and have him playing with the big club? He hit a HR, too.
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DanMetroMan : 7/28/2016 12:20 pm : link
McCullers aimed at Jonathan Mayo

Lance McCullers Jr. ‏@LMcCullers43 42s42 seconds ago
Lance McCullers Jr. Retweeted Jonathan Mayo
Save it. You would drill me every chance... I was referring to when I made my debut..You all buried me, still try.
Mayo has gotten better since Callis joined him...  
Dunedin81 : 7/28/2016 12:58 pm : link
he used to basically regurgitate the info others gave, when asked about guys he wasn't as familiar with his answers were shitty.
But either way, there is something unseemly...  
Dunedin81 : 7/28/2016 1:12 pm : link
about talking about these guys like pieces of meat, and being so dismissive of their talent. The scouting process necessarily does so, but the new generation of prospect gurus lets everyone see it.
plus there are way too many supposed gurus of questionable ability  
Greg from LI : 7/28/2016 1:23 pm : link
And they comport themselves in the snarky, flip manner that seems to be endemic of everyone under the age of 35 or so.
I just picture some Mom excitedly asking...  
Dunedin81 : 7/28/2016 2:46 pm : link
about the potential of her bonus baby son only to be told he's a 4th OF at best or he won't get out of High A.
Some late night/early morning trades:  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/29/2016 8:27 am : link
Eduardo Nunez was traded to the SF Giants for pitcher Adalberto Mejia. Nunez has been on fire this year, and was the Twins only All Star, hitting .296 with 12 homers, 47 RBI's and 26 steals.

Marlins have an agreement in place to acquire Padres pitcher Andrew Cashner. Marlins were rumored to be interested in Pineda.
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Dunedin81 : 7/29/2016 8:31 am : link
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 12m12 minutes ago
Source confirms: #Marlins getting Cashner from #Padres. First reported: @Buster_ESPN.
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Dunedin81 : 7/29/2016 8:34 am : link
Devan Fink @DevanFink 2m2 minutes ago
The Marlins have acquired Andrew Cashner and Colin Rea from the Padres, as @Buster_ESPN first reported. Return unknown right now.
D'Arnaud  
Steve in South Jersey : 7/29/2016 8:38 am : link
Read that the Mets offered D'Arnaud straight up for Lucroy and were refused.
Naylor said to be one of the players in the package...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2016 8:46 am : link
the Marlins' top prospect. Thin system after graduations, but still a decent return for a rental and a starter in Rea who has not wowed in the early going.
That makes no sense  
BigBlueShock : 7/29/2016 8:46 am : link
There's no way the Brewers would accept a deal straight up for d' Arnaud. That's ridiculous. Maybe the Mets threw that out there to get talks going, but there's no way that could be their final offer.
Meltdown in the 9th for Nationals  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/29/2016 8:47 am : link
again last night. Hopefully desperation leads them to release a top prospect.

Papelbon allowed 2 one out baserunners and was yanked mid save opportunity for Oliver Perez/Shawn Kelly who ended up getting the job done.
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Dunedin81 : 7/29/2016 8:50 am : link

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago
Industry still skeptical that #WhiteSox will move Sale. However, spoke with GM last night who said for first time he thinks its possible

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago
Asked GM why. He said, The tone of it. They've never even responded before. There's at least a discussion. Still not sure they get enough.
hah  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 9:00 am : link
D'Arnaud one for one for Lucroy? Is it April Fool's Day? D'Arnaud has barely played more games in 2015-16 as Lucroy has this year alone, and while Lucroy is an established star and two-time All-Star, he's less than three years older than d'Arnaud so it's not even as if Milwaukee would get significantly younger.
RE: hah  
Metnut : 7/29/2016 9:13 am : link
In comment 13049248 Greg from LI said:
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D'Arnaud one for one for Lucroy? Is it April Fool's Day? D'Arnaud has barely played more games in 2015-16 as Lucroy has this year alone, and while Lucroy is an established star and two-time All-Star, he's less than three years older than d'Arnaud so it's not even as if Milwaukee would get significantly younger.


Lucroy is a free agent after 2017. D'arnaud is controlled through 2020. Mets would have to add to D'arnaud but those extra years are very very important, especially to small market teams.
RE: ...  
spike : 7/29/2016 9:15 am : link
In comment 13049240 Dunedin81 said:
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Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago
Industry still skeptical that #WhiteSox will move Sale. However, spoke with GM last night who said for first time he thinks its possible

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago
Asked GM why. He said, The tone of it. They've never even responded before. There's at least a discussion. Still not sure they get enough.


This trade market is lacking in starting pitching. Some team might back up two Brink trucks of prospects for Sale
RE: hah  
Steve in South Jersey : 7/29/2016 9:17 am : link
In comment 13049248 Greg from LI said:
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D'Arnaud one for one for Lucroy? Is it April Fool's Day? D'Arnaud has barely played more games in 2015-16 as Lucroy has this year alone, and while Lucroy is an established star and two-time All-Star, he's less than three years older than d'Arnaud so it's not even as if Milwaukee would get significantly younger.


I thought it was a ridiculous offer too. Pretty sure that it was Baseball Prospectus that wrote this rumor.
yes, which is why the Brewers are shopping him  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 9:17 am : link
Doesn't make a straight-up deal any less ludicrous, though.
The control matters, but he's not a rental...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2016 9:18 am : link
he's an All Star with a full year to go and D'Arnaud has played 100+ games three times in his professional career, just once since 2011.
The Mets are going nowhere this season  
spike : 7/29/2016 9:23 am : link
So please Sandy, dont overpay for 1.5 seasons of Lucroy
I haven't seen anyone say a straight up deal is fair  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2016 9:30 am : link
Supposedly that's an offer the Mets put on the table more than a month ago and every met writer/fan I've seen talk about it recently expects a significant 2nd piece added to the deal. I'd imagine the level of that 2nd (or 3rd) piece is why the Brewers have been scouting the Mets minors for a few weeks. Most expect Rosario/Conforto are off limits, are hoping it won't cost Smith now that he's breaking out, and accepting that if it's one of Cecchini/Herrera/Nimmo going the other way it's a deal you have to make because Lucroy is a big upgrade.

Also, the control argument goes both ways, yes it's huge that Lucroy is under control next year, but TDA has an extra 3 seasons beyond that and even with only 270 AB's last year he was the 6th most valuable catcher in baseball. Though he comes with injury risk, it's hard to envision finding a ready to play replacement better than that with the general weakness at the catcher position around baseball.
maybe include Walker too, bring up Herrara?  
Victor in CT : 7/29/2016 9:51 am : link
Brewers then lose the Walker contract, can give a Qualifying Offer, get a draft pick.

Mets get to give Herrara 2 months of MLB experience in prep for next year.
Im open to trading Walker back for Niese  
spike : 7/29/2016 10:16 am : link
And play Herrera/Reyes at 2b and Flores/Reyes 3b.

RE: Outside of Sale, none of those guys would particularly scare me  
Ned In Atlanta : 7/29/2016 10:40 am : link
In comment 13046515 Greg from LI said:
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Price looks pretty mediocre this year, and he was awful in the playoffs for Toronto this year. Pomeranz was nothing special before this year and isn't off to a great start in Boston. Steven Wright is a fucking pumpkin ready for the clock to strike midnight and he's been shit over the past month. Porcello is meh. Decent starter, hardly one anyone is particularly worried about.


unbiased take right there
bias?  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 11:00 am : link
Sure....doesn't refute anything I said though, does it? Do you think that Steven Wright's performance over the first couple of months of the season is an indication of his true ability? Has Rick Porcello been a league-average starter for most of his career? Does Drew Pomeranz have a long track record of success?
Apparently this is actually a much larger deal...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2016 11:01 am : link
and includes Jarred Cosart, the injured Carter Capps and a couple of other moving parts.
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Dunedin81 : 7/29/2016 11:03 am : link
Ken RosenthalVerified account
@Ken_Rosenthal
Complete deal: Cashner, Rea, Guerrero to #Marlins. Cosart, Castillo, Capps, Naylor to #Padres. Deal pending review of medicals.
jeez  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 11:08 am : link
If the Padres got that much for Cashner, then the Yankees might actually get something of use for Nova after all.
Twins get the 86th ranked prospect in baseball for Eduardo Nunez  
Victor in CT : 7/29/2016 11:54 am : link
What could the Yankees get for Beltran?


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RE: Twins get the 86th ranked prospect in baseball for Eduardo Nunez  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13049476 Victor in CT said:
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What could the Yankees get for Beltran?
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Someone traded something of value for Eduardo Scissorhands? Baaaahahahaha







All-Star my ass. He's already been regressing like a sonofabitch, putting up a sterling .161/.200/.161 in 13 games since the ASG.
Eduardo Scissorhands!! I love it!!  
Victor in CT : 7/29/2016 12:17 pm : link
Maybe they can trade Beltran and Michael Pinata, get something for Pine-ada while he's in a good streak
RE: Eduardo Scissorhands!! I love it!!  
chopperhatch : 7/29/2016 12:34 pm : link
In comment 13049522 Victor in CT said:
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Maybe they can trade Beltran and Michael Pinata, get something for Pine-ada while he's in a good streak


Too bad. I had had decent hopes for Nuez. He'll be playing outfield soon enough.
he's 29 already. he is what he is.  
Victor in CT : 7/29/2016 12:47 pm : link
a bad infielder who probably is a bad outfielder too or he'd already be there.
he's one of the very worst infielders I've ever watched  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 12:54 pm : link
He's a decent enough hitter, but a hacker who draws walks only at gunpoint, and not a lot of power. His offense isn't good enough to outweight his steel glove, and it's not enough to make him valuable as a DH. Honestly, he's best suited as an NL pinch hitter, a Manny Mota or Gates Brown type.
Morosi says the Nats willing to give up Giolito for Andrew Miller  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2016 1:53 pm : link
as a Met fan I fully endorse that.
I always sAid Nunez would make an AllStar game one day  
DennyInDenville : 7/29/2016 8:15 pm : link
He did
RE: I always sAid Nunez would make an AllStar game one day  
rut17 : 7/29/2016 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13050058 DennyInDenville said:
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He did


No one cares dupe.
Wut?  
DennyInDenville : 7/29/2016 8:35 pm : link
Whatever man
Some chatter of a Moncada Hugwatch...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2016 11:05 pm : link
and the Sox executives have been incommunicado, canceling a scheduled interview. So we will see.
Whatever the deal was with Moncada seems to have come to naught...  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2016 10:34 am : link
At least so far. Lucky sweepstakes still in effect but Norris of the Padres apparently a better bet to be moved because of asking price. Three way deal for Bruce said to be dead but he likely still gets traded.
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rut17 : 7/30/2016 3:08 pm : link
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 8m8 minutes ago

Sources: #Nationals getting Melancon.



Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 8m8 minutes ago

Sources: Felipe Rivero one of players heading from #Nationals to #Pirates.
doesnt look like Miller  
MookGiants : 7/30/2016 3:13 pm : link
is going to be moved now, fucking damnit
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