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NFT: Batman: The Killing Joke

Vin R : 7/27/2016 10:16 am
Thought for sure DC would hit another home run in the animated department and possibly it's biggest home run to date with one of their best graphic novels.

But it seems to be getting mixed reviews, haven't seen it yet so I can't comment. Little disappointed if some of these reviews are true being that it's one of my favorite stories.


Has anyone on here seen it?
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Is Mark Hamil the Joker in this?  
Moondawg : 7/27/2016 10:17 am : link
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RE: Is Mark Hamil the Joker in this?  
Vin R : 7/27/2016 10:18 am : link
In comment 13046627 Moondawg said:
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Yeah and Conroy returned to voice Batman
I love the book.  
Mr. Bungle : 7/27/2016 10:19 am : link
Wasn't thrilled with the trailer(s) I saw.
Yep, Hamill is the Joker, and Kevin Conroy is Batman.  
732NYG : 7/27/2016 10:20 am : link
Besides the addition of some Batgirl stuff, it's pretty much a straight adaptation of the book. People who loved the comic will enjoy this. People who wanted more may be left wanting. Personally, I really enjoyed it.
Haven't seen it yet, but there's a lot of backlash from SJW's about  
Cam in MO : 7/27/2016 10:20 am : link
the changes.

First, they didn't want the part where Joker puts Barbara in poses and takes pics to drive Gordon nuts.

So they removed that part and also tried to add more to Barbara's character with a prelude...in which she and Batman screw.

Which pissed them off even more especially considering that their relationship has always been more of father/daughter type in the comics.

Whatever. I think getting all pissed about fiction because of how people are portrayed is fucking stupid to begin with. It's fiction.


RE: Yep, Hamill is the Joker, and Kevin Conroy is Batman.  
Vin R : 7/27/2016 10:25 am : link
In comment 13046634 732NYG said:
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Besides the addition of some Batgirl stuff, it's pretty much a straight adaptation of the book. People who loved the comic will enjoy this. People who wanted more may be left wanting. Personally, I really enjoyed it.


Good to hear.. I'll definitely rent it first before buying
RE: Haven't seen it yet, but there's a lot of backlash from SJW's about  
732NYG : 7/27/2016 10:28 am : link
In comment 13046635 Cam in MO said:
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the changes.

First, they didn't want the part where Joker puts Barbara in poses and takes pics to drive Gordon nuts.

So they removed that part and also tried to add more to Barbara's character with a prelude...in which she and Batman screw.

Which pissed them off even more especially considering that their relationship has always been more of father/daughter type in the comics.

Whatever. I think getting all pissed about fiction because of how people are portrayed is fucking stupid to begin with. It's fiction.



I always thought the point of what Joker did to Barbara (and Gordon, depending on your opinion of what happened) was to show how completely vile of a human he is. Despite the backstory lending some sympathy to the character, you really feel that the Joker might actually be the devil himself.
RE: Haven't seen it yet, but there's a lot of backlash from SJW's about  
Moondawg : 7/27/2016 10:28 am : link
In comment 13046635 Cam in MO said:
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the changes.

First, they didn't want the part where Joker puts Barbara in poses and takes pics to drive Gordon nuts.

So they removed that part and also tried to add more to Barbara's character with a prelude...in which she and Batman screw.

Which pissed them off even more especially considering that their relationship has always been more of father/daughter type in the comics.

Whatever. I think getting all pissed about fiction because of how people are portrayed is fucking stupid to begin with. It's fiction.



Pretty cowardly to change the story to appease people. Lame.
They really didn't change much.  
732NYG : 7/27/2016 10:35 am : link
Most of what's in the book is still in the movie.
Saw it with a buddy on Monday, thought it was rather weak  
Ben in Tampa : 7/27/2016 10:41 am : link
it dragged early, and never really capture the edge of the comic
loved the book  
RasputinPrime : 7/27/2016 10:52 am : link
and those two voice actors are my absolute favorites but this film was nothing special - sadly.
Very disappointing to hear  
Vin R : 7/27/2016 10:55 am : link
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I don't like the way the animation looks in the trailer.  
Britt in VA : 7/27/2016 11:06 am : link
The illustrations in the graphic novel were awesome and part of it's greatness.
RE: RE: Haven't seen it yet, but there's a lot of backlash from SJW's about  
Cam in MO : 7/27/2016 11:34 am : link
In comment 13046661 732NYG said:
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In comment 13046635 Cam in MO said:


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the changes.

First, they didn't want the part where Joker puts Barbara in poses and takes pics to drive Gordon nuts.

So they removed that part and also tried to add more to Barbara's character with a prelude...in which she and Batman screw.

Which pissed them off even more especially considering that their relationship has always been more of father/daughter type in the comics.

Whatever. I think getting all pissed about fiction because of how people are portrayed is fucking stupid to begin with. It's fiction.





I always thought the point of what Joker did to Barbara (and Gordon, depending on your opinion of what happened) was to show how completely vile of a human he is. Despite the backstory lending some sympathy to the character, you really feel that the Joker might actually be the devil himself.


I agree.

I was gonna preorder the deluxe edition  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/27/2016 11:43 am : link
today on amazon ,I will still get as its one of my favorite Batman /Joker stories
I would take some of those negative reviews with a grain of salt  
Mason : 7/27/2016 1:12 pm : link
As mentioned some reviewers said they were going to give it a negative review no matter what because they hate the story line and it's treatment of Barbara Gordon. One reviewer suggested they change the story line to have Batgirl beat up the Joker but have the Joker shoot Batman. (Yes this was an actual suggestion).
I wanted to like this, but the movie completely misses the mark  
David in LA : 7/27/2016 1:27 pm : link
on what Alan Moore created. Not even sure why this got an R rating.
RE: I would take some of those negative reviews with a grain of salt  
Moondawg : 7/27/2016 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13047045 Mason said:
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As mentioned some reviewers said they were going to give it a negative review no matter what because they hate the story line and it's treatment of Barbara Gordon. One reviewer suggested they change the story line to have Batgirl beat up the Joker but have the Joker shoot Batman. (Yes this was an actual suggestion).


Same people who were going to praise G**********s no matter what.
I really liked the book  
cjd2404 : 7/27/2016 2:42 pm : link
and was really disappointed by the movie. I too was really looking forward to it.

The whole batgirl thing didn't bother me, and I took it just as a "people will have no idea who she is, so let's give her a story" Making her have a huge crush on batman, and him seemingly not care..that was wrong on a few levels -- getting back to the father/daughter type relationship in the comics). Even the batgirl story line kind of just ended. It seemed to me there should have been a lot more to it than there was.

The Killing Joke story line was pretty much out of the book, but it didn't have the darkness the book had. It was absolutely cleaned up for the movie. With an 'R'R rating I was really expecting it to go the other way and be a little more evil
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