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NFT: Mets and Cadinals Rubber Match

ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:55 am
-Verrett and Wainwright

-Reyes has intercostal strain

-Colon going Saturday on short rest

Tough pitching  
Metnut : 7/27/2016 11:07 am : link
matchup today (Wainwright has settled down since bad start) but we're at home so this should be close to a coin flip. Hopefully they start Flores to reward him for another multi-hit game last night, and with Reyes banged up.

Mets need to string a few series wins in a row together. A win today really sets things up nice for the weekend. LGM
It was only a matter of time with Reyes  
MetsAreBack : 7/27/2016 11:09 am : link

has always been a china doll.

Good opportunity for Flores to play the next 4-5 days.
Dont necessarily agree with logic  
bhill410 : 7/27/2016 11:28 am : link
that home field somehow pushes Verrett and Wainwright to a coin flip. Fact is we are going to have to hit today, something that we havent done in droves recently.
gotta win your home games  
spike : 7/27/2016 11:36 am : link
somehow scratch some runs against the Cards pitching, maybe by hitting a few solo shots.

Cespedes has struggled a bit recently so we need some Flo & Loney magic right now.
mets Offense  
gmenatlarge : 7/27/2016 11:47 am : link
not giving me much hope for wins lately. You would think that at some point it will turn around...today...maybe????
RE: Dont necessarily agree with logic  
Metnut : 7/27/2016 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13046837 bhill410 said:
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that home field somehow pushes Verrett and Wainwright to a coin flip. Fact is we are going to have to hit today, something that we havent done in droves recently.


Well... I did say "close" to a coin flip... Vegas has Cards favorite at -123... so we are slight underdogs. Need to either just score runs, or at least run up Wainwright's pitch count to get to STL's very vulnerable middle-relief.
Got some great seats for tomorrow's Degrom outing vs Rockies  
spike : 7/27/2016 12:13 pm : link
I'm excited!
Mets have had success against Wainwright in the past  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 2:03 pm : link
Let's beat this fucker
RE: Mets have had success against Wainwright in the past  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13047126 Vanzetti said:
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Let's beat this fucker


Not when it mattered most. :(
RE: RE: Mets have had success against Wainwright in the past  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13047132 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13047126 Vanzetti said:


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Let's beat this fucker



Not when it mattered most. :(

That's why he is a fucker
Old ny punk rock song  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 2:21 pm : link
That is apt for today's game
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STL - ( New Window )
Nationals and Marlins  
Metnut : 7/27/2016 2:23 pm : link
look like they are going to win this afternoon. Mets could really use a win tonight.
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sphinx : 7/27/2016 3:20 pm : link
#Mets Game 100 of 162, vs. STL:

Granderson RF
Cabrera SS
Cespedes LF
Loney 1B
Walker 2B
Flores 3B
Conforto CF
d’Arnaud C
Verrett RHP

Such a poorly constructed lineup  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 3:33 pm : link
Cabrera 2 and Walker 5. Ugh. Meanwhile Flores, Conforto, and TDA bat 6-8. lol
Loney sees a lot of pitches it seems  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2016 3:36 pm : link
I'd swap him and TDA and also I'd swap Conforto and Cabrera.
TC seems  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2016 3:37 pm : link
so intent on going L/R
So much better  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 3:41 pm : link
Granderson
TDA
Conforto
Cespedes
Loney
Flores
Walker
Cabrera
Nats and Fish  
madgiantscow009 : 7/27/2016 3:49 pm : link
already won today.

Lets go Metsies.
Stop batting Walker  
spike : 7/27/2016 3:50 pm : link
5th!
Lonely and Walker batting 4-5  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 4:31 pm : link
Is terrible. It's positioning guys based on their veteran status.

I don't think TC quite realizes that if Mets miss playoffs, he is quite possibly out of a job
TC should probably have a team issued suspension  
bhill410 : 7/27/2016 4:41 pm : link
for batting Walker 5th. I think Flores had more hits last night than walker has had in the entire month.
RE: Lonely and Walker batting 4-5  
CGiants07 : 7/27/2016 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13047366 Vanzetti said:
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Is terrible. It's positioning guys based on their veteran status.

I don't think TC quite realizes that if Mets miss playoffs, he is quite possibly out of a job


highly doubtful
I'm tired of  
spike : 7/27/2016 5:21 pm : link
TC's idiocy. Next season will be his last.
.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 5:59 pm : link
Adam Rubin
ESPN Staff Writer


Mets people say other teams are still asking for the moon in trade proposals. Perhaps there will be more progress this weekend, they speculate, once teams get more reasonable.
RE: .  
Jay on the Island : 7/27/2016 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13047475 ZGiants98 said:
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Adam Rubin
ESPN Staff Writer


Mets people say other teams are still asking for the moon in trade proposals. Perhaps there will be more progress this weekend, they speculate, once teams get more reasonable.

They obviously are. The Braves just received Travis Demeritte from the Rangers for P Lucas Harrell and P Dario Alvarez who were both signed to minor league deals this season. Demeritte was Texas’ first round pick (30th overall) in the 2013 draft and has 25 homeruns and a .935 OPS in High A.
Wow!  
speedywheels : 7/27/2016 7:38 pm : link
Not only a hit with RISP, but it was Walker!

Knocks in Loney. TC looking like a genius. For moment anyway, lol...
Flores with another hit  
speedywheels : 7/27/2016 7:40 pm : link
I'm sure TC will bench him again once Reyes returns...

2 on, no out for Conforto....who promptly flies out...
And there's the GIDP..  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 7:43 pm : link
LOL. This team is allergic to big innings.
And......TDA with a GIDP  
speedywheels : 7/27/2016 7:44 pm : link
He can't even clear the pitcher's spot.

LOL...
And Verrett coughs the lead right back up  
speedywheels : 7/27/2016 7:56 pm : link
Inning started by walking Wainright...

Sigh...
Verrett sucks.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 7:56 pm : link
Ugh.
Another double  
speedywheels : 7/27/2016 7:57 pm : link
3-1.

With Wainright on the mound and this meager offense, this one could be over...
Come on Flo  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 8:19 pm : link
No double play here.
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sphinx : 7/27/2016 8:22 pm : link
NL Team stats

BA with men on base ... Cards #4 .268, Mets #15 (last) .234

BA with RISP ... Cards #1 .294, Mets #15 (last) .207

BA with RISP, 2 out ... Cards #1 .259, Mets # 15 (last) .165

And I've got to stop beating this dead horse

Well that was a big cock tease  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 8:27 pm : link
!
Can ANYONE on this fucking team get a big hit to drive runners in?  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 8:33 pm : link
Holy shit, man. I've never seen a team just flounder time after time in these situations like the Mets this year. It's almost hard to believe.. you'd think just by luck alone someone would come through once in a while.
come on Grandy  
spike : 7/27/2016 8:40 pm : link
get on base for Cespedes
Mets have 7 hits  
spike : 7/27/2016 8:43 pm : link
and yet have only 1 run.
One of Cabrera's better ABs with RISP  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 8:45 pm : link
He actually took a ball instead of striking out on three pitches like he normally does
RISPFAIL, RISPFAIL, RISPFAIL..  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 8:48 pm : link
This team frustrates me so fucking much.
ok. The biggest automatic  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 8:54 pm : link
out got on base. Time for a big inning.
Come  
spike : 7/27/2016 8:56 pm : link
Flo. Give us some magic!
If we can't score again here I gotta turn this game off.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 8:57 pm : link
Cmon, Wilmer.
at least  
spike : 7/27/2016 8:58 pm : link
Verrett has been pretty good so far except for that one inning. 6 K in 6 innings
More RISPFAIL..  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 8:59 pm : link
Here comes the ground out to end the inning.
Come on Conforto  
spike : 7/27/2016 8:59 pm : link
just give us a RISP 2 out hit
RE: More RISPFAIL..  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13047648 arcarsenal said:
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Here comes the ground out to end the inning.


u called it. RISP FAILeD
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:01 pm : link
Can't make it up, man.

Maybe tomorrow.
lol.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:01 pm : link
It's almost funny. Come on Mets.
I don't remind the Mets scoring more than 5 runs a game  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:02 pm : link
It's pathetic.
Verrett cannot walk the leadoff hitter  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:05 pm : link
after going up 1-2
One more month of Verrett  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:06 pm : link
until Wheeler.
Verrett actually turned in a solid outing..  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:08 pm : link
I would have signed up for 7 innings and 3 runs from him in a second. But, as usual.. this pitiful offense can't get a hit when they need to.
Sorry...  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:09 pm : link
7 innings and 3 run ball against one of the best offenses in baseball is more than fine by me. Well done Logan.
RE: One more month of Verrett  
sphinx : 7/27/2016 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13047665 spike said:
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until Wheeler.

You seriously see Verrett as the problem here?

RE: RE: One more month of Verrett  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13047674 sphinx said:
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In comment 13047665 spike said:


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until Wheeler.


You seriously see Verrett as the problem here?


No I'm happy with him today. Just frustrated.
Time to knock Wainwright out  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:10 pm : link
Dude is a gamer. Bears down and get the tough outs when he needs to. That's why he's one of the best ever.
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:12 pm : link
Here we go agaiiiiiiiin
Whoo hoo.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:12 pm : link
Come on ADA!
Lets go  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:13 pm : link
Good Aza!
RE: Lets go  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:15 pm : link
In comment 13047683 spike said:
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Good Aza!


He might just be turning it around!
Alejandroooooo  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:15 pm : link
He's been very good this month.
ADA is on FIRE!!!!!!!  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:15 pm : link
Beautiful atbat!!!
RE: ADA is on FIRE!!!!!!!  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:16 pm : link
In comment 13047690 ZGiants98 said:
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Beautiful atbat!!!


He should get a start tomorrow for the day game. Cespedes is due for a day off.
Please let Grandy and Cabrera come thru  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 9:18 pm : link
With RISP
just a sac fly  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:18 pm : link
at least please!
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:19 pm : link
We're not going to score.
Grander son is just worthless with risp  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 9:20 pm : link
Now Cabrera
what a dropoff  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:21 pm : link
from 2015 to 2016 for Granderson
Frustrating doesn't  
Stufftherun : 7/27/2016 9:23 pm : link
even begin to tell the story with this team!
Unfuckingreal.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:23 pm : link
I hate this team.
It just feel like  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:24 pm : link
the whole team except cespedes is hitting 230
Fuck Wainwright.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:25 pm : link
Im having nightmare flashbacks this inning with that fucking curve.
We need Cespedes to hit a HR in the WORST way.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:26 pm : link
.
lol  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:27 pm : link
a wild pitch is what the Mets offense needed.
That's one way  
Stufftherun : 7/27/2016 9:28 pm : link
of getting TdA in from 3rd.
RE: We need Cespedes to hit a HR in the WORST way.  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:30 pm : link
In comment 13047710 arcarsenal said:
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Hallelujah!!!!! We needed this one!
CALLED THAT SHIT.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:30 pm : link
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THAT ONE IS FOR BELTRAN!!!  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:30 pm : link
YOU FUCKING BITCH!!!!!
Who else?!  
Stufftherun : 7/27/2016 9:30 pm : link
Where would this team be without # 52?!
Matheny  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:30 pm : link
shouldve given his starter the hook earlier. It's obvious.
Who would have thought that on July 27  
RodneyHamp : 7/27/2016 9:31 pm : link
Murphy would have 20 hrs and Cespedes would have 21.


MAKE THAT 22!!! Wow he CRUSHED that!!!!
Win one  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:31 pm : link
for Verrett!!
Cespedes has sucked for weeks.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:31 pm : link
Thank GOD!!
I swear that's the closest to revenge  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:32 pm : link
as we'll ever have.
That was fucking huge  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 9:32 pm : link
If Mets hold onto win we might look back at that as a season saving hit
Get Reed up  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:32 pm : link
!
Reed, Familia, deuces.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:33 pm : link
!
Reed and Familia have to get it done now.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:34 pm : link
We need this win in the worst way.
This offense scoring  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:35 pm : link
is like squeezing blood out of a rock
Reed  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:42 pm : link
shouldve been an all star. So underrated
See goes through the heart of the order  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:43 pm : link
like a hot knife through butter. Fuck Betances/Miller. We got Reed/Fam Beatchez!
REED  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:43 pm : link
!
Lets go Walker  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:44 pm : link
get some insurance runs in
Nice bunt Flo!  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:50 pm : link
lol.
Go  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:52 pm : link
TDA!
HAHAHA. Love it.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 9:52 pm : link
Jacob Resnick @Jacob_Resnick
Addison Reed has the lowest ERA in #Mets history (minimum 60 IP).
Cmon, Fam  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 9:55 pm : link
Please give me an easy one tonight.
come on  
spike : 7/27/2016 9:57 pm : link
Dont walk him please
Ugh.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 10:00 pm : link
.
Come on  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:01 pm : link
DP!
there goes the streak  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:01 pm : link
Argh
Unreal.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 10:01 pm : link
Of fucking course.
walks will kill  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:02 pm : link
you
HOLY SHIT!!!!  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:02 pm : link
FUCK!!
Well there it goes  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:02 pm : link
and of course it's to that piece of shit killer Molina.
I hate  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:02 pm : link
Molina.
Familia makes some of the worst throws to bases I've ever seen.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 10:03 pm : link
Wilmer just saved his ass
This is why insurance runs are important  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:04 pm : link
TDA.
Dominic Smith pulled middle of game  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:05 pm : link
No injury. Trade??
We have  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:05 pm : link
De Aza, Lagares and Cabrera at the bottom of the 9th. Cespedes after if anyone gets on.
I remember that damn game  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:06 pm : link
Joe Trezza (@JoeTrezz)
48 secs ago - View on Twitter
The last time Jeurys Familia blew a regular season save before tonight, Justin Upton hit one through the rain. That was 362 days ago. #Mets
Blown save  
Metnut : 7/27/2016 10:07 pm : link
hurts but he was long due. Tie game now, gotta find a way to win. Cards bullpen isn't deep and we still have Roebles available.
We can't afford an extra inning game  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:07 pm : link
we only have Rivera and Johnson on the bench.
RE: I remember that damn game  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 13047789 spike said:
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Joe Trezza (@JoeTrezz)
48 secs ago - View on Twitter
The last time Jeurys Familia blew a regular season save before tonight, Justin Upton hit one through the rain. That was 362 days ago. #Mets


Hard not to forget that one. That was the low point of 2015 without a doubt. I was miserable that day. Couldn't believe we lost that game.
inexcusable  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:09 pm : link
Familia
Man this sucks.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 10:09 pm : link
Sucks so fucking much. We could not afford to lose this game.
Brutal....  
Metnut : 7/27/2016 10:09 pm : link
damn..
RE: RE: I remember that damn game  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13047794 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13047789 spike said:


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Joe Trezza (@JoeTrezz)
48 secs ago - View on Twitter
The last time Jeurys Familia blew a regular season save before tonight, Justin Upton hit one through the rain. That was 362 days ago. #Mets



Hard not to forget that one. That was the low point of 2015 without a doubt. I was miserable that day. Couldn't believe we lost that game.


I think we will remember tonight's stupid game too
Wow. That fucking sucks  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:09 pm : link
This game fucking sucks. The fucking Cardinals suck.
This was a long time coming  
Stufftherun : 7/27/2016 10:10 pm : link
.
DeGrom better go 9 tomorrow  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:11 pm : link
because Reed and Familia won't be available.
This will easily be the worst loss of the year.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:12 pm : link
Yuck.
Stupid Birds!  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:13 pm : link
Rich MacLeod (@richmacleod)
1 min ago - View on Twitter
Jeurys Familia has blown five saves in the regular season since the start of 2015. Three have been to the Cardinals. #Mets
.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:13 pm : link
Familia's lack of command finally caught up with him  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 10:14 pm : link
Streak was largely bullshit anyway considering he blew three saves in the WS

Still a great closer. But walks will kill you
Its one thing to blow the save  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:15 pm : link
it's far worse to give up the lead.
Reed and Familia  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:16 pm : link
will both be unavailable tomorrow.
RE: Reed and Familia  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:16 pm : link
In comment 13047813 ZGiants98 said:
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will both be unavailable tomorrow.


The Bats are due for a breakout tomorrow against Colorado
Strangely Im not even that mad.  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:20 pm : link
Awful loss but Familia was bound to blow one eventually. Oh well.
what a deflating loss  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:20 pm : link
for the Mets. It's going to hurt in the wild card standings.
RE: RE: Reed and Familia  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13047815 spike said:
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In comment 13047813 ZGiants98 said:


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will both be unavailable tomorrow.



The Bats are due for a breakout tomorrow against Colorado


Let's hope. The Rockies are hanging around in the wild card race. Much better than the usual Rockies.
well  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:21 pm : link
the Mets continue their trend of alternating wins and losses since the All Star break
This one stings  
Stufftherun : 7/27/2016 10:22 pm : link
like a motherfucker! Hard to say that a specific game or series is a turning point in late July but this one was a serious punch to the gut.
Haven't won 2 in a row in 3 weeks.  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2016 10:22 pm : link
Brutal.
Im fine with the Mets  
ZGiants98 : 7/27/2016 10:25 pm : link
treading water until after the Yankees and Tigers series. I have a feeling we'll get a little spark this weekend also.

Ah well. Awful loss. Not fun. Too bad.
Make Lucroy happenq  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:29 pm : link
I'm sick of this anemic RBI team
Collins  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:38 pm : link
says he will close with Addison Reed tomorrow; Familia is not available.
RE: RE: I remember that damn game  
spike : 7/27/2016 10:44 pm : link
In comment 13047794 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13047789 spike said:


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Joe Trezza (@JoeTrezz)
48 secs ago - View on Twitter
The last time Jeurys Familia blew a regular season save before tonight, Justin Upton hit one through the rain. That was 362 days ago. #Mets



Hard not to forget that one. That was the low point of 2015 without a doubt. I was miserable that day. Couldn't believe we lost that game.
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AND this game happened the day after Familia blew his last save (to Justin Upton):
The extra inning Flores walkoff homer against the Nationals


Flores happened. - ( New Window )
We can use the same magical win streak  
spike : 7/27/2016 11:03 pm : link
the 2015 Mets had from 7/31 to 8/7 last season.
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