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How good do you think our defense would be with a Kuechly?

yatqb : 7/27/2016 2:55 pm
Seems to me the one area of our defense where we don't have star talent is at LB, and a guy with a combination of great range and tackling ability would be the last piece needed on defense.

Honestly, he's a tackling machine and has great desire  
SGMen : 7/27/2016 3:00 pm : link
to be great.

I have us pegged at 10 - 15 range in terms of yards and points allowed. I think we have a top 4 overall DL and that is the key to the defense.

Adding him would make me think top 10 range but not top 5.

Would plug one of the LB holes, ....  
Beer Man : 7/27/2016 3:01 pm : link
be a enormous upgrade, and bring tremendous leadership to the D-unit. Would still need an upgrade at at least one of the other LB positions (possibly both)
I disagree with SG  
Young Elijah : 7/27/2016 3:05 pm : link
I feel its been so long without a field general/game changer at the LB spot that we forget how they can impact a game.

With the changes we made this off-season, if lets say LK was a FA and we signed him to a mega-deal, I cant imagine this defense being ranked anywhere below the top 3-5
All great players make your team better  
BillT : 7/27/2016 3:06 pm : link
But if I was going to add a top player it wouldn't be a MLB. I'd prefer a top FS. A great secondary with this DL would be a better D.
RE: I disagree with SG  
SGMen : 7/27/2016 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13047230 Young Elijah said:
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I feel its been so long without a field general/game changer at the LB spot that we forget how they can impact a game.

With the changes we made this off-season, if lets say LK was a FA and we signed him to a mega-deal, I cant imagine this defense being ranked anywhere below the top 3-5
I love your optimism! I just don't think we have enough in the back 7 and depth to be sure we could be top 5 even with Kuechly added. He is a run stuffer as can keep the QB from running cause he is big & fast. You need that in today's NFL. Improving a defense 5 spots with one guy is HUGE. Just HUGE so I'll stick with my assessment.
Let me think...hmmm...  
Klaatu : 7/27/2016 3:42 pm : link
Add a three-time 1st team All-Pro...three-time Pro Bowler...Two-time DPOY...Butkus Award winner...to our defense. How good would it be? I'd say pretty f'ing good.
Better than it is, certainly  
Go Terps : 7/27/2016 3:46 pm : link
I'd still rather have Vonn Miller, which we probably could have made happen this off-season.
RE: Better than it is, certainly  
SGMen : 7/27/2016 3:57 pm : link
In comment 13047315 Go Terps said:
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I'd still rather have Vonn Miller, which we probably could have made happen this off-season.
Von Miller is a great player and he single-handedly beat Carolina up and got Denver a SB trophy. MVP for sure. Reminded me of Tuck in 2007 and what an animal he was in that game sacking and pressuring Brady.

But V. Miller was still overpaid for the long haul. But we also overpaid for our big three UFA's as well because we had to overpay. Denver had no choice really.

I would not be surprised if Denver ended up 9-7 and out of the playoffs this year, V. Miller or not.
Doesn't play Speacials  
Vanzetti : 7/27/2016 4:59 pm : link
Pass
RE: Better than it is, certainly  
mrvax : 7/27/2016 5:06 pm : link
In comment 13047315 Go Terps said:
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I'd still rather have Vonn Miller, which we probably could have made happen this off-season.


Miller is 3-4 OLB. How would that best translate to a 4-3? WILL?

Do you think he'd make a bigger difference than Vernon?
Kuechly is a star - one of the top defensive players in the league  
Ira : 7/27/2016 5:25 pm : link
at any position. Given the improvements we've already made, adding him would make us a top 5-7 defense at least.
mrvax  
JonC : 7/27/2016 5:34 pm : link
Similar to Demarcus Ware in his prime, in terms of scheme.
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Go Terps : 7/27/2016 5:41 pm : link
For a player of Miller's quality I'd want to build the scheme around him. I wouldn't put Vernon anywhere near his class.

As for him being overpaid, that's what we just did for lesser players. If you're going to overpay you might as well do it for the best.
Miller was tagged.  
Klaatu : 7/27/2016 5:43 pm : link
We weren't getting him, no way, no how.
RE: Miller was tagged.  
yatqb : 7/27/2016 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13047461 Klaatu said:
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We weren't getting him, no way, no how.


Agreed.

As for Kuechly, I was just wondering where the defense's biggest weakness was, and decided it was LB and depth at DE. Barring injuries I'd love it if a top prospect 4-3 LB was available to us in the first round next year. That kind of talent at LB would sure boost our defense.
RE: RE: Miller was tagged.  
Klaatu : 7/27/2016 6:05 pm : link
In comment 13047473 yatqb said:
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In comment 13047461 Klaatu said:


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We weren't getting him, no way, no how.



Agreed.

As for Kuechly, I was just wondering where the defense's biggest weakness was, and decided it was LB and depth at DE. Barring injuries I'd love it if a top prospect 4-3 LB was available to us in the first round next year. That kind of talent at LB would sure boost our defense.


I wouldn't count on it.
People really wonder this?  
Giants2012 : 7/27/2016 6:07 pm : link
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Was my favorite player  
Bluesbreaker : 7/27/2016 11:54 pm : link
in the Draft think he was long gone before we picked .
The epitome of a LB ...
Giants are still pouring money into DE and CB  
JonC : 7/28/2016 7:33 am : link
It doesn't appear the philosophy is changing.
RE: Giants are still pouring money into DE and CB  
Klaatu : 7/28/2016 7:51 am : link
In comment 13047962 JonC said:
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It doesn't appear the philosophy is changing.


The safest bets, no doubt. I'd add OL if it proves to be a real Achilles heel this year.
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