QB (Current)-Manning, Nassib, Thomas
QB (Keep)-Manning, Nassib
QB (cut)-Thomas
RB (Current)-Coprich, Darkwa, Jennings, Perkins, Rainey, Vereen, Williams
RB (Kept)-Jennings, Perkins, Vereen, Williams
RB (cut)-Darkwa, Coprich, Rainey
FB (Current)-Johnson, Whitlock
FB (Kept)-Johnson
FB (cut)-Whitlock
WR (Current)-Beckham, Boone, Cruz, Dablé, Davis, Foster, Dwayne Harris, King, Roger Lewis, KJ Maye, Darius Powe, Shepard, White
WR (Kept)-Beckham, Cruz, Davis, Harris, Shepard, Lewis
WR (cut)-Boone, Dable, Foster, King, Maye, Powe, White
TE (Current)-Adams, Donnell, LaCosse, Ryan Malleck, Tye
TE (Kept)-Adams, Donnell, LaCosse, Tye
TE (cut)-Malleck
OL (Current)-Cleary, Flowers, Newhouse, Rodgers, Stingily, Farrell, Seymour, Jones, McDermott, Richburg, Gettis, Hart, Jerry, Pugh
OL (Kept)-Flowers, Newhouse, Stingily, Richburg, Hart, Jerry, Pugh, McDermott
OL (cut)-
DE (Current)-Bars, Maponga, Odighizuwa, Okwara, JPP, Mike Rose, Vernon, Williams, Wynn
DE (Kept)-Odighizuwa, JPP, Vernon, Wynn, Okwara
DE (cut)-Bars, Maponga, Rose, Williams
DT (Current)-Bromley, Hankins, Harrison, Hughes, Melvin Lewis, Greg Milhouse, Nix
DT (Kept)-Bromley, Hankins, Harrison, Nix
DT (cut)-Lewis, Milhouse, Hughes
LB (Current)-Brinkley, Casillas, Goodson, Herzlich, Kennard, Robinson, Sheppard, Thomas, Unga
LB (Kept)-Brinkley, Casillas, Goodson, Kennard, Robinson, Thomas
LB (cut)-Herzlich, Sheppard
CB (Current)-Apple, Deayon, Michael Hunter, Jacobs, Jenkins, McFadden, Rodgers-Cromartie, Smalley, Wade
CB (Kept)-Apple, Deayon, Jenkins, DRC, Wade
CB (cut)-Hunter, Jacobs, McFadden, Smalley
S (Current)-Andrew Adams, Berhe, Collins, Currie, Jackson, Taylor, D. Thompson, M. Thompson
S (Kept)-Collins, Jackson, Taylor, Thompson, Thompson
S (cut)-Berhe, Adams, Currie
K (Current)-Brown, Obarski
K (Kept)-Brown
K (cut)-Obarski
P (Current)-Wing
P (Kept)-Wing
P (cut)-
LS (Current)-DeOssie, Ott
LS (Kept)-DeOssie
LS (cut)-Ott
25 Offense
25 defense
3 STs
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At QB, it's simple. Thomas might have a shot at PS. Or might not make it to camp.
RB--I could make an argument for keeping any of the 3 guys I cut. But to me Jennings, Vereen and Perkins are pretty much 95% locked in. And Williams still seems more talented than any of the other 3. So barring injury, I went with the odds. But the comments about Rainey a few weeks back from Sully made me think. And Darkwa looked natural and is big on STs. Coprich will have to produce quickly to get any type of shot.
FB-Johnson as FB/TE/Hback. I would be surprised if Whitlock made the necessary improvements in blocking but not completely shocked. But he doesn't offer us running or receiving.
WR-Another tough cut for the last spot. Assuming Cruz health, the top 4 are locked in. Cruz, OBJ, Shepard and Harris. I think Davis is probably a level or two below. He's probably about 50-60%. Then the 6th spot. I know Mac loves White but I haven't seen anything worth waiting over if there is talent competing. Lewis and Powe (and maybe Maye) have a shot to impress and it sounds like Lewis and Powe both have done some stuff already. So I will go with Lewis for now as hope springs eternal at this time of the year.
TE-another tough last cut. I don't know if it will end up tough after camp. But right now it's hard to cut Donnell or Tye. LaCosse seems to have made a jump. Adams is a draft pick with physical skills. And Malleck has some characteristics you like to hear about and made some noise in OTAs and minicamp. Hard to separate these guys. I am starting with 4. But with 6 WRs, 4 RBs, and a FB, hard to keep 4 TEs also.
OL-But I can keep 4 TEs, 6 WRs, 4 RBs and a FB because right now I am stretching to keep 8 OLs. It's clear we are looking. Not as clear we will find someone. But I can't argue to keep Cleary (based on what I saw), Rodgers, Farrell or Seymour (based on what I haven't seen/heard) or Jones (who maybe has a shot at the PS but who hasn't seemed to make any noise here yet. And so I came down to Gettis v McDermott for the last spot of backup center and guard. I went McDermott. He is a bit bigger and I saw enough of Gettis not to like him much if he had to play. The others are fairly easy. If Stingily is healthy, he is the 7th guy. And the starters plus Hart are the 1st 6.
DE-Only real decision here was keep Wynn or not (I did) and if I keep a young guy (I did) and if so, who. I picked Okwara. Williams can maybe be a PS guy. Not a fan of Rose based on measurable and what little I saw on youtube.
DT-I think we use Wynn and Owa inside at times so I sufficed with 4. I think they want Nix to step up but I almost chose Hughes or Lewis because I don’t know if Nix stays healthy. I guess I really think it will be Hughes if form holds but Nix has the better shot.
LB-no feel here. I cut Herzlich and Sheppard but who the hell knows? Herzlich is also the backup LS so if all else is equal, he wins. But I could see Thomas cut. Even Robinson if he doesn’t stay healthy. Unlikely but possible.
CB-Thought the 1st 5 were clear at this point. Jacobs and McFadden have a shot. Especially McFadden with his pedigree. But we haven’t seen anything so I went with the order they are in to start.
S-I have Berhe as a cut. Truthfully, I don’t think he gets cut if he stays healthy. I am just betting he doesn’t. I could say the same about Jackon or Taylor or Mykelle Thompson too. So call it a hunch. Or a stab in the dark. And probably wrong.
STs-I kept DeOssie over Ott and that is the only decision here.
I like OG Seymour over McDermott due to his versatility to play OC in a pinch as well.
I don't see LB JT Thomas making it due to salary, injuriies. I'm liking Sheppard over Herzlich or Thomas. Heck, I wouldn't be overly shocked if Sheppard was the MLB on opening day and Brinkley cut. Anything can happen in camp.
SS N. Behre, he got hurt last year but was durable before that in college and 2014 (rookie campaign). He will not only make the team but challenge for playing time. He hits like a train.
Yes, they are.
If we keep five safeties, it will be special teams and upside which will be the final determinant. I like D. Thompson, L. Collins, N. Behre, B. Jackson and M. Thompson to all stick. I think C. Taylor practices and plays well in camp making him a tough cut but I doubt anyone picks him up given his history so he's asked to stay in shape just in case of injuries. We have a youthful group and all have upside if healthy.
S (Kept)-Collins, Jackson, Taylor, Thompson, Thompson
S (cut)-Berhe, Adams, Currie
I'd keep D. Thompson, M. Thompson, and L. Collins.
But I'm cutting Taylor and keeping Currie, and cutting Jackson and keeping Adams.
TE: Tye, Donnell, Lacosse, Adams and Johnson (HBack)? I would not be shocked if Donnell ended up being cut due to health and/or the desire to go younger with blocking TE types and Johnson. I doubt that will happen. If Tye shows he can block, I think we risk LaCosse to the practice squad, or maybe Adams if he doesn't show enough??
On another note, regarding TE, I wonder if we don't look to trade Donnell and a conditional 6th or 7th to a team for an upgrade at RT? Just a thought...
Also, my thinking on Jackson and Mykelle Thompson was they have versatility to play some CB in a pinch. So the 5 CBs has some more depth with them as well.
Lastly, I don't necessarily think we keep 4 TEs and I don't think we keep only 8 OL. I just think that any of the 4 TEs I kept has a better chance of being on this roster than the 9th OL currently on the roster who I didn't keep. That is my thought process when projecting who we keep of the guys we have now. I could have kept Darkwa for the same reason. I don't see him being cut but I don't have the spot to keep him today. But he has a better shot than any of the OLs after the 8 guys I kept.
Yeah, right.
McAdoo gave Williams a vote of confidence in the spring. Now, whether he was serious about it or just blowing smoke remains to be seen, but I think Williams will be on the final 53. My issue with Darkwa is his durability (or lack thereof). He seems to get dinged up way too often, and with Jennings hardly a model of durability himself, I'd be hesitant to keep both on the roster. My guess is that Mort's guess is correct: the Giants keep Jennings, Vereen, Perkins, and Williams.
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with keeping Williams? I'm not sold his muscles and hard work are going to make him any better. Darkwa showed quickness and ability, I would be pissed if he is cut and Williams is still a Giant. I will be pissed if Williams is still a Giant no matter what. Guy can't run and he drops screen passes. Don't want to see him touch the rock for Big Blue.
McAdoo gave Williams a vote of confidence in the spring. Now, whether he was serious about it or just blowing smoke remains to be seen, but I think Williams will be on the final 53. My issue with Darkwa is his durability (or lack thereof). He seems to get dinged up way too often, and with Jennings hardly a model of durability himself, I'd be hesitant to keep both on the roster. My guess is that Mort's guess is correct: the Giants keep Jennings, Vereen, Perkins, and Williams.
In truth, I'd love for Dwarka, Williams and Perkins to all shine and show starting ability in camp. On another thread I was talking about how Reese is looking for talent this camp, to fill holes especially at RT, WLB or CB over Wade. Anywhere we could upgrade but RT is the priority.
If we could trade a starting TE like Donnell and RB like Rainey or Dwarka plus a conditional 5, 6, or 7 to a team willing to part with an upgrade RT we'd be in good shape for the season. The likelihood of something like that happening is 1 out 50 I'm sure, but I can dream! It is pre-season practice morning! Woo Hoo!