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NFT: What have we learned this week?

RC02XX : 7/29/2016 6:01 am
I got some good lessons on US history this week.

I learned that Hamilton wrote the Federal Reserve Act and basically screwed this nation from the start, but since some Puerto Rican wrote a musical about him, he's now the greatest member of our finding fathers.

I also learned that we should always judge those in the past based on our current values and standards, and if they don't meet them, then they're just bunch of racist assholes.

Why didn't my AP US History teach teach these things?!?
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I have 5 dolla  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/29/2016 11:48 am : link
that says that I learned this thread will disappear like the last two "what have I learned threads" -- sometime before the dinner hour

No offense intended Ronnie - and it's not your fault - this thread attracts the foment
The Commandant?  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 11:54 am : link
I thought George Gaynes was dead




Anyway....I suppose if there's a personal interest, as was the case for you, but in general I'd rather watch tree sloths racing.
RE: I also learned that there are actually people who watch political  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/29/2016 11:55 am : link
In comment 13049413 Greg from LI said:
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conventions. I honestly had no idea that people would have any interest in the kind of stage-managed bullshit that goes on there.


and I learned that there are Americans that think the Presidential election is not important enough to watch the real arguments of the Presidential candidates which each convention is presumably a thought out version of

You want to see the way your presidential candidate thinks and the people they surround themselves with -- you watch the convention -- I found both to be very illuminating this year
bah  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 11:55 am : link
I said, GEORGE GAYNES

RE: RE: I also learned that there are actually people who watch political  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 11:59 am : link
In comment 13049479 gidiefor said:
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and I learned that there are Americans that think the Presidential election is not important enough to watch the real arguments of the Presidential candidates which each convention is presumably a thought out version of

You want to see the way your presidential candidate thinks and the people they surround themselves with -- you watch the convention -- I found both to be very illuminating this year


You want to know something about presidential candidates? Look at their actions rather than listening to the words someone else wrote for them in a carefully scripted and choreographed dog and pony show. And this year, in any case, features two vile human beings who have been in the public eye long enough to know plenty about just how rotten they are.
Greg  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/29/2016 12:03 pm : link
I like to soak it in myself -- candidates become caricatures of themselves if you just listen to pundits and the media

you may call it PR -- I call it watching exactly how philosophically an administration would work, what's on their minds, and what their arguments are

to me that's important
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BrettNYG10 : 7/29/2016 12:05 pm : link
I learned that BBI doesn't appreciate our two well-qualified, intelligent, thoughtful, kind candidates for President.

I learned that Ronnie has friends. Need sources on that, though.
RE: I have 5 dolla  
RC02XX : 7/29/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13049459 gidiefor said:
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that says that I learned this thread will disappear like the last two "what have I learned threads" -- sometime before the dinner hour

No offense intended Ronnie - and it's not your fault - this thread attracts the foment


Not a big deal since this is just to pass the time on Friday when most of us are just thinking about the weekend.

At least no one has mentioned specific names.
Exactly  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 12:15 pm : link
I learned a great deal
RE: ....  
RC02XX : 7/29/2016 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13049503 BrettNYG10 said:
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I learned that BBI doesn't appreciate our two well-qualified, intelligent, thoughtful, kind candidates for President.

I learned that Ronnie has friends. Need sources on that, though.


I never said she reciprocates my friendship, duh! I have no friends. I'm an island, Brett, an island of lonely despair.
I'd consider having friends if I ever came across someone who  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 12:18 pm : link
could live up to the kind of lofty standards I require in a friend. So far, all examined have been found wanting.
I learned RCO2XX is an old fart  
njm : 7/29/2016 12:22 pm : link
If he had taken AP US History recently he WOULD have been taught those things.
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GiantFilthy : 7/29/2016 12:23 pm : link
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I'd consider having friends if I ever came across someone who
Greg from LI : 12:18 pm : link : reply
could live up to the kind of lofty standards I require in a friend. So far, all examined have been found wanting.

So you're saying they all came up............. short?
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Cam in MO : 7/29/2016 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13049532 GiantFilthy said:
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I'd consider having friends if I ever came across someone who
Greg from LI : 12:18 pm : link : reply
could live up to the kind of lofty standards I require in a friend. So far, all examined have been found wanting.


So you're saying they all came up............. short?


Dick.
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Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13049532 GiantFilthy said:
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I'd consider having friends if I ever came across someone who
Greg from LI : 12:18 pm : link : reply
could live up to the kind of lofty standards I require in a friend. So far, all examined have been found wanting.


So you're saying they all came up............. short?


RE: I also learned that there are actually people who watch political  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/29/2016 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13049413 Greg from LI said:
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conventions. I honestly had no idea that people would have any interest in the kind of stage-managed bullshit that goes on there.


and also -- if you are examining the candidates through the lens of history -- you are still examining them through the bullshit lens of whoever's perspective you are listening to

you don't have to want to be informed, but you opt to become a passive aggressive victim if you aren't
Greg is prejudiced against  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/29/2016 12:29 pm : link
short people?
I have no idea what you're talking about  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 12:43 pm : link
I said, look at their actions, the things they've actually done. Not their speeches, not anyone's analysis of them, their tangible actions.
I learned that  
UConn4523 : 7/29/2016 12:45 pm : link
there needs to be a mainstream, national voice for a 3rd party. Its absolutely comical that this is what we get to pick from.
RE: I have no idea what you're talking about  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/29/2016 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13049568 Greg from LI said:
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I said, look at their actions, the things they've actually done. Not their speeches, not anyone's analysis of them, their tangible actions.


exactly how do you get to look at exactly what they've done Greg?
Wait, I just learned that  
Semipro Lineman : 7/29/2016 1:23 pm : link
there are people in BBI who Greg can make short jokes about...
RE: I learned that  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13049569 UConn4523 said:
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there needs to be a mainstream, national voice for a 3rd party. Its absolutely comical that this is what we get to pick from.


There is and they may make the 15% needed for the debates
RE: RE: I learned that  
UConn4523 : 7/29/2016 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13049641 AP in Halfmoon said:
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In comment 13049569 UConn4523 said:


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there needs to be a mainstream, national voice for a 3rd party. Its absolutely comical that this is what we get to pick from.



There is and they may make the 15% needed for the debates


I know, but something tells me he falls just short, which is a shame. There shouldn't be a restriction, a 3rd party voice should be automatic. It makes zero sense.
If they get to 15  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 1:46 pm : link
The debate board will probably make it 20.
what's he at now anyway  
UConn4523 : 7/29/2016 1:49 pm : link
with both conventions over? Last I saw was 12% after the RNC.
Things should settle next week  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 1:52 pm : link
It will be interesting to see.
RE: Wait, I just learned that  
RC02XX : 7/29/2016 1:54 pm : link
In comment 13049630 Semipro Lineman said:
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there are people in BBI who Greg can make short jokes about...


Brett.
why would a statist like Barilko care about an LP candidate?  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 1:58 pm : link
Curious....

UConn - From RCP, in polls from the past week, CBS had Johnson at 11%, CNN at 9%, YouGov at 5%.
something else I learned  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 2:02 pm : link
The Redskins have some gorgeous women covering them at training camp. I don't know who they are or what channel/publication they're with, but when I went to lunch there were two stunning blondes in line with Redskins media badges.
RE: why would a statist like Barilko care about an LP candidate?  
RC02XX : 7/29/2016 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13049674 Greg from LI said:
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Curious....

UConn - From RCP, in polls from the past week, CBS had Johnson at 11%, CNN at 9%, YouGov at 5%.


Wait...is it now ok to name candidates as long as they're not the big two? Because if it isn't, you just doomed this thread, Greg. Nice job, fucker.
Not even their code names?  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 2:07 pm : link
Y'all hear that? We're usin' code names.

Statist is such a cheesy term  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 2:30 pm : link
I see it used by anarchists not libertarians.
I learned this, in researching Ben Franklin:  
x meadowlander : 7/29/2016 2:44 pm : link
From his "Advice to a friend on Choosing a Mistress":

"The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement."

well, for one thing libertarian is a big umbrella  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 3:19 pm : link
There are plenty of ancaps under that umbrella.

For another thing, yes, libertarians use the slur "statist" all the time. Trust me on that one.
Yes  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 3:28 pm : link
I know and I despise it.
the truth hurts, huh?  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 3:32 pm : link
.
.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/29/2016 3:33 pm : link
See?  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 3:34 pm : link
That's much more entertaining than watching Tim fucking Kaine, the human Sominex.
I follow Julie Borowski  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 4:51 pm : link
The Pragmatic Libertarian and others. The ANCAPs are the worst. It's quasi intellectual masturbation from pipe dreaming douche bags.
You can discuss everything but football  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 4:54 pm : link
.
People tall like there are only two sides  
Go Terps : 7/29/2016 5:00 pm : link
In November there will be five or six names on the ticket. It's amazing to me that one of these two assholes is going to be president just because they have the money to pay for more commercials. If that's the case than why don't we just make Flo the fucking President?
yes, ancaps are goofy and Rothbard was insane  
Greg from LI : 7/29/2016 5:14 pm : link
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Flo from Progressive?  
BrettNYG10 : 7/29/2016 5:31 pm : link
She's more unlikable than the two we have running.
RE: Flo from Progressive?  
Go Terps : 7/29/2016 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13049920 BrettNYG10 said:
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She's more unlikable than the two we have running.


Yeah but ad time seems to be all that's needed for votes. That's got to be the reason that one of the two most disliked people in America will win this election.
Ads are all that are needed for votes?  
manh george : 7/29/2016 5:46 pm : link
Well I just learned that some allegedly smart people know very little about our political system.

Btw, I don't like one of the candidates at all, but he/she hasn't run any ads. I won't mention who.
RE: Ads are all that are needed for votes?  
dep026 : 7/29/2016 5:51 pm : link
In comment 13049943 manh george said:
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Well I just learned that some allegedly smart people know very little about our political system.

Btw, I don't like one of the candidates at all, but he/she hasn't run any ads. I won't mention who.


Will that person make commercials great again?
RE: Ads are all that are needed for votes?  
Go Terps : 7/29/2016 6:28 pm : link
In comment 13049943 manh george said:
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Well I just learned that some allegedly smart people know very little about our political system.

Btw, I don't like one of the candidates at all, but he/she hasn't run any ads. I won't mention who.


What a douche.
we can leave that  
Rocky369 : 7/29/2016 6:29 pm : link
to Hardees/Carl Jr
RE: Ads are all that are needed for votes?  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/29/2016 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13049943 manh george said:
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Well I just learned that some allegedly smart people know very little about our political system.

Btw, I don't like one of the candidates at all, but he/she hasn't run any ads. I won't mention who.


I agree but google worst campaign ad in history. Guess who ran it. (it was web only)
Hamilton  
Percy : 7/29/2016 9:53 pm : link
Seems to have been a key guy from the beginning. Burr? Not so much. Near last words: "'Pendleton knows' (attempting to turn his head towards him) 'that I did not intend to fire at him.'" Sorry Burr did not think that way. Thanks be to the powers that rule us that Hamilton's still on the ten.
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