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Dunedin81 : 8/4/2016 9:00 am
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RE: RE: Wasn't that under Fewell, though?  
Klaatu : 8/4/2016 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13057498 B in ALB said:
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Regardless, I thought the idea was to send Trevin Wade to the bench, not Darian Thompson.



It was. But Spags Part I deployed that hybrid guy too. Grant just stands out because he was really really good in that role.


Who did Spags use in that role, McQuarters? He was about the same size as Hall.
RE: Hall fits that hybrid scheme  
phillygiant : 8/4/2016 2:47 pm : link
In comment 13057465 B in ALB said:
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Where he's technically a CB playing inside and they'll deploy him to cover pass catching TEs. Similar to Grant a few years ago. Spags loves that CB/S hybrid.


Could pay huge dividends against Witten and Jordan Reed
His full name:  
Big Blue '56 : 8/4/2016 2:55 pm : link
Leon Lastarza Lafayette Lorenzo Hall..

RE: RE: RE: Wasn't that under Fewell, though?  
B in ALB : 8/4/2016 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13057504 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13057479 Klaatu said:


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Regardless, I thought the idea was to send Trevin Wade to the bench, not Darian Thompson.



It was. But Spags Part I deployed that hybrid guy too. Grant just stands out because he was really really good in that role.



Who did Spags use in that role, McQuarters? He was about the same size as Hall.


McQuarters and Dockery.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Wasn't that under Fewell, though?  
Klaatu : 8/4/2016 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13057573 B in ALB said:
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In comment 13057498 B in ALB said:


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Regardless, I thought the idea was to send Trevin Wade to the bench, not Darian Thompson.



It was. But Spags Part I deployed that hybrid guy too. Grant just stands out because he was really really good in that role.



Who did Spags use in that role, McQuarters? He was about the same size as Hall.



McQuarters and Dockery.


That can't be right. I was told by a very credible insider source that Spags likes big people in that role, like Ross and T2.
Contract worth up to $2M on a one year deal...  
Torrag : 8/4/2016 4:56 pm : link
...at that price it's a no brainer. A very young and inexperienced secondary(Collins 2nd year, Apple/both Thompsons essentially rookies), Berhe and Bennett(still cutting their teeth) gets another veteran presence to lean on.
RE: RE: Hall fits that hybrid scheme  
SGMen : 8/4/2016 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13057509 phillygiant said:
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Where he's technically a CB playing inside and they'll deploy him to cover pass catching TEs. Similar to Grant a few years ago. Spags loves that CB/S hybrid.



Could pay huge dividends against Witten and Jordan Reed
Interesting, I always thought of a nickel corner as the guy who covers the interior slot receiver. I guess that could be a TE / Hback but more likely a 3rd wideout. If Hall can contain the middle of the field for us and our starting corners handle the outside exceptionally we are a much better defense overnight.

We need HALL to flourish at nickel; for MLB K. Robinson to be superb in coverage; and, just stay healthy please!
Nickel Cover 3  
B in ALB : 8/4/2016 6:25 pm : link
similar to the Seahawks defensive alignment depending on down and distance.

Long yardage and I think maybe we see more of this - some dime stuff with one backer, slot receiver and TE both pressed.
RE: having lots of money this year  
Giants2012 : 8/4/2016 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13057343 fkap said:
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owes a lot to not being able to draft worth a darn. resigning a draftee is the same as bringing in a FA, IMO. when you don't have to resign your drafted playersy.


Bingo

The draft choices never earned that 2nd or third contract so the money is plenty.
Here's a note from Jordan Raanan's practice report:  
Klaatu : 8/4/2016 8:40 pm : link
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Dime looks

The Giants ran more than a few plays with cornerbacks Janoris Jenkins, Eli Apple, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Trevin Wade on the field together, along with safeties Landon Collins and Darian Thompson. With the Giants now strong at cornerback (especially after signing veteran Leon Hall), this could take the place of the three-safety looks they have favored for years. It’s probably not a coincidence that they put four cornerbacks on the field at the same time this summer before three safeties.


Of the five players listed, ask yourself who Leon Hall is going to replace. If your answer is not Trevin Wade, I'd say you were wrong.

And if they do go with three safeties and one of them is Hall, that's fine, but the other two will most likely be Thompson and Collins again.
I would replace Landon Collins  
ChicagoMarty : 8/4/2016 9:28 pm : link
with Hall in a NY minute
RE: I would replace Landon Collins  
SGMen : 8/4/2016 9:34 pm : link
In comment 13058062 ChicagoMarty said:
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with Hall in a NY minute
On passing downs, for sure. Landon Collins would need to show a lot improvement against the pass this camp and early season to make me change my opinion on that move!

Landon Collins was horrible in coverage last year along with everyone else not named DRC.
Good luck with that  
UberAlias : 8/4/2016 10:04 pm : link
There is a reason the team has never had a rookie start all 16 games at the position before. But of course, the book is written, courtesy of BBI publishing.
RE: I would replace Landon Collins  
Klaatu : 8/4/2016 11:31 pm : link
In comment 13058062 ChicagoMarty said:
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with Hall in a NY minute


So who's your third safety? Thompson, Hall, and ?
RE: RE: I would replace Landon Collins  
Klaatu : 8/4/2016 11:33 pm : link
In comment 13058068 SGMen said:
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with Hall in a NY minute

On passing downs, for sure. Landon Collins would need to show a lot improvement against the pass this camp and early season to make me change my opinion on that move!

Landon Collins was horrible in coverage last year along with everyone else not named DRC.


Your opinion will change the first time one of the beats says something nice about Collins.
My guess is Hall has been brought in to help mentor the young  
BlueLou : 8/5/2016 5:16 am : link
safties and DBs on this roster as much as anything else. À la Madison and Grant. He's still better than any nickel CB right now on the roster if he can stay healthy.

ChiMarty - now by far the biggest need is a solid right side OL to bump Newhouse to the bench. Far more than another DB.
RE: I would replace Landon Collins  
TheMick7 : 8/5/2016 6:08 am : link
In comment 13058062 ChicagoMarty said:
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with Hall in a NY minute


You do realize Collins was playing out of position last year as a FS. Coverage has never been his strong suit bur perhaps having to play it last year made him a better overall player in the long run. Playing SS this season & having a FS next to him in Thompson(I'll be surprised if it's anyone else) who runs the back 4 is only going to make him that much better
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