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Cruz not playing Friday

BigBlueDownTheShore : 8/9/2016 1:42 pm
Due to tightness in his groin.
never ends for him  
I Love Clams Casino : 8/9/2016 1:44 pm : link
hopefully they're just being overly cautious
Seriously...  
Damon : 8/9/2016 1:46 pm : link
...
Hopefully it's a minor setback  
Tuckrule : 8/9/2016 1:48 pm : link
As long as he suits up for the jets game I'll be happy
Yep,no way they let him compensate  
section125 : 8/9/2016 1:55 pm : link
for that. Why bother? More important for the young guys to show there stuff.
i suspect its an invented injury  
ECham : 8/9/2016 1:58 pm : link
since they are charging fans to attend they cant come out and say, we just dont feel like playing him.
Brady has had a sore knee for 10 years to get him out of the pro bowl
Expect the guy to never be the same again  
djm : 8/9/2016 2:02 pm : link
I didn't feel this way until last week. I had nothing to base it on. He was practicing. I just started putting two and two together and examining this through an objective lens, or at least trying to. I think he's done. I'll gladly admit I'm wrong if and when.
I saw it come up on  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 8/9/2016 2:03 pm : link
A feed on my phone, but I can't find the link.
RE: i suspect its an invented injury  
okiegiant : 8/9/2016 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13063503 ECham said:
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since they are charging fans to attend they cant come out and say, we just dont feel like playing him.
Brady has had a sore knee for 10 years to get him out of the pro bowl


Sure they could. Teams do it all the time. Cruz has been working hard in camp...no reason to be surised by him being a little sore.
ECham  
Rocky369 : 8/9/2016 2:03 pm : link
Rodgers was never going to play in the HOF game. If they want to sit or not play someone, that's their option. It might be the one thing I don't think is a money grab.
Not a thing you want to hear, especially considering this case with  
micky : 8/9/2016 2:06 pm : link
Cruz. Maybe a compensation injury when one part is weakened (knee). Skeptical until he's playing several games about his future
Well this news just blows chunks.....  
SGMen : 8/9/2016 2:08 pm : link
I mean, really? We have a few nicks going on now.

Well, I pray that we finish Friday night oh about 10:45pm with no injuries, solid play from all, and well NO INJURIES.
When a player nears 30 and hasn't played for a couple of seasons  
steve in ky : 8/9/2016 2:09 pm : link
it is hard to resume without other parts of the body breaking down.

I hope I'm wrong but I doubt Cruz ever comes close to regaining his old form with any consistency, if at all.
Good rest him up  
blueblood : 8/9/2016 2:15 pm : link
He needs to be ready for week 1.. I dont care if he is ready for preseason game one..
just be ready for Dallas...  
BCD : 8/9/2016 2:20 pm : link
period!
Hah  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2016 2:22 pm : link
Art Stapleton ✔ @art_stapleton
Guess I shouldn't be amazed by the number of followers jumping off the Victor Cruz bandwagon at first sign of a challenge.
But I sorta am.
Echam not only do I agree  
area junc : 8/9/2016 2:30 pm : link
with u but I never quite bought the calf "injury". To me that smelled like a lie that snowballed.....they didn't want a setback distraction so they called it a calf. Then it just continued

Dude hasn't played in 2 years and he still has to be held out? Tells u something right there
i am not passing judgement  
dep026 : 8/9/2016 2:32 pm : link
until preseason game 2/3. If he plays, then this isnt a big deal at all. But if he doesnt play in those games - its really start time to worry.
RE: Echam not only do I agree  
blueblood : 8/9/2016 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13063570 area junc said:
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with u but I never quite bought the calf "injury". To me that smelled like a lie that snowballed.....they didn't want a setback distraction so they called it a calf. Then it just continued

Dude hasn't played in 2 years and he still has to be held out? Tells u something right there


guess they faked a surgery too???
He should be playing now  
area junc : 8/9/2016 2:34 pm : link
He's rusty as hell and needs the game reps. Somethings off with him
What it tells me is that he strained it the other day...  
Klaatu : 8/9/2016 2:35 pm : link
Shifting into his "extra gear." Nothing more, nothing less, and certainly no grand conspiracy.
RE: He should be playing now  
Giantology : 8/9/2016 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13063580 area junc said:
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He's rusty as hell and needs the game reps. Somethings off with him


What is Cruz's camp saying?
RE: He should be playing now  
Giantology : 8/9/2016 2:37 pm : link
In comment 13063580 area junc said:
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He's rusty as hell and needs the game reps. Somethings off with him


Possible he's being held out of practice for the Anthony Davis trade?
Obviously a smart move by the Giants,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/9/2016 2:38 pm : link
but this is why I Posted last week, why I was sick of the promises, progress reports, workout videos, etc., Just get on the field already and show us what you have. Or don't have..
RE: RE: He should be playing now  
arcarsenal : 8/9/2016 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13063586 Giantology said:
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In comment 13063580 area junc said:


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He's rusty as hell and needs the game reps. Somethings off with him



Possible he's being held out of practice for the Anthony Davis trade?


Deal to be announced shortly....
Was waiting on Cruz triumphant return on Friday  
Mason : 8/9/2016 2:43 pm : link
I get sick of all the know it all over-speculative  
Rory : 8/9/2016 2:44 pm : link
fuck heads who get all bent out of shape based on ones opinion of a matter with no factual evidence to back it up.

Also the report was "he COULD miss Fridays game"

Chill
RE: I get sick of all the know it all over-speculative  
SGMen : 8/9/2016 2:47 pm : link
In comment 13063604 Rory said:
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fuck heads who get all bent out of shape based on ones opinion of a matter with no factual evidence to back it up.

Also the report was "he COULD miss Fridays game"

Chill
Yes, I read that he COULD not WOULD be out as well. With Cruz, I get why folks get worked up. He is the #1 veteran I keep an eye on for return to form cause my thought is if he returns to 2014 form he is like 65-850-7, on par with Randle less the mental erros which cause turnovers for Eli, and he'd take our offense to the next level. If he is just a "body" a guy with a little left, a 6th wideout type, we will struggle some early I think.
RE: He should be playing now  
speedywheels : 8/9/2016 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13063580 area junc said:
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He's rusty as hell and needs the game reps. Somethings off with him


Maybe he's spending time with Anthony Davis...
I know its early  
Beer Man : 8/9/2016 2:53 pm : link
and groin injuries usually heal quickly with rest, but given his injury history, I don't see the team keeping him if injuries continue to plague him. There is a coral of young healthy wide-outs that are all showing the coaches something, and the team can't afford to cut loose one of them if Victor can't remain healthy.
I am holding out till game 3 of the preseason to  
BlueLou : 8/9/2016 2:58 pm : link
start really worrying.

But there's always been a chance he won't make it back, or almost worse that he will but then sustain another, different injury.

That's why they drafted Shepard, and we should thank the stars that Davis looks good as well as King, White, some really promising UDFAs in Lewis and Powe, and of course Harris.

But 1 & 2 will most likely be the OBJ and Shepard show this year.

We have all said it before: anything we get from Cruz this year is a huge BONUS.
RE: I get sick of all the know it all over-speculative  
steve in ky : 8/9/2016 3:01 pm : link
In comment 13063604 Rory said:
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fuck heads who get all bent out of shape based on ones opinion of a matter with no factual evidence to back it up.

Also the report was "he COULD miss Fridays game"

Chill


Basically 99% of the posts on BBI are people speculating about things. And of course no amount of speculation has any bearing on the outcome so why care if some people have genuine reservations about the possibility of Cruz returning to his previous form?

Hey and at least for myself I've been consistent on the subject. Here was my initial post when we first were told of his injury.

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I had a small partial tear
steve in ky : 10/12/2014 10:46 pm : link
to my patella tendon and it was horrible and I still have trouble from it. It looks like his probably tore away completely and while I am not a doctor of course I worry that will be very hard to fully come back without some lingering affects. Just awful I really feel for the guy and I am glad at least he got his money.


I hope I was wrong then, and I hope I'm wrong now but I don't see the harm in discussing it. That's what the site is for; to discuss the Giants and their players.

I am starting to  
ANGPASS : 8/9/2016 3:05 pm : link
come to the realization he just will not ever be the same. I thought he would, but he is made of glass apparently.
I don't understand why people are getting out of sort  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2016 3:06 pm : link
over a groin strain. Pretty common football related injury, especially when you've been out of routine for a while.
From camp reports  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/9/2016 3:08 pm : link
it doesnt seem like Cruz is making any plays. I follow all the writers on twitter and they constantly are posting videos of guys making catches in 7 on 7 and 1 on 1. Cruz isnt showing up.

It's early and he's still coming back from injury and rounding to shape but I wonder at what point do the Giants need to see some production out of Cruz on the practice field.
I remember 2 years ago how we were distressed over  
Bill in UT : 8/9/2016 3:09 pm : link
whether we could afford to pay big bucks to lock up to our 2 star receivers, Cruz and Nicks. Who could have imagined what their careers would look like a year later.
RE: I am starting to  
phillygiant : 8/9/2016 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13063642 ANGPASS said:
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come to the realization he just will not ever be the same. I thought he would, but he is made of glass apparently.


Ignorant jack ass
RE: From camp reports  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2016 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13063645 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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it doesnt seem like Cruz is making any plays. I follow all the writers on twitter and they constantly are posting videos of guys making catches in 7 on 7 and 1 on 1. Cruz isnt showing up.

It's early and he's still coming back from injury and rounding to shape but I wonder at what point do the Giants need to see some production out of Cruz on the practice field.


There are lots of guys who make plays in camp. Camp isn't where you make evaluations, so I doubt they put that much weight on it. What's important is how players perform when they're actually being defended. We can all recite lots of names from past camps. How many of them are even in the league elsewhere.
RE: From camp reports  
steve in ky : 8/9/2016 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13063645 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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it doesnt seem like Cruz is making any plays. I follow all the writers on twitter and they constantly are posting videos of guys making catches in 7 on 7 and 1 on 1. Cruz isnt showing up.

It's early and he's still coming back from injury and rounding to shape but I wonder at what point do the Giants need to see some production out of Cruz on the practice field.


For Cruz camp is all about his being able to get back to anywhere close to his old form. We know he can make plays if he can do that so I don't care if he catches one pass during camp. That's not what's important.
RE: RE: From camp reports  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/9/2016 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13063667 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13063645 Old Dirty Beckham said:


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it doesnt seem like Cruz is making any plays. I follow all the writers on twitter and they constantly are posting videos of guys making catches in 7 on 7 and 1 on 1. Cruz isnt showing up.

It's early and he's still coming back from injury and rounding to shape but I wonder at what point do the Giants need to see some production out of Cruz on the practice field.



There are lots of guys who make plays in camp. Camp isn't where you make evaluations, so I doubt they put that much weight on it. What's important is how players perform when they're actually being defended. We can all recite lots of names from past camps. How many of them are even in the league elsewhere.


Camp isn't where you make evaluations? Was that a serious comment?
RE: RE: From camp reports  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/9/2016 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13063675 steve in ky said:
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In comment 13063645 Old Dirty Beckham said:


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it doesnt seem like Cruz is making any plays. I follow all the writers on twitter and they constantly are posting videos of guys making catches in 7 on 7 and 1 on 1. Cruz isnt showing up.

It's early and he's still coming back from injury and rounding to shape but I wonder at what point do the Giants need to see some production out of Cruz on the practice field.



For Cruz camp is all about his being able to get back to anywhere close to his old form. We know he can make plays if he can do that so I don't care if he catches one pass during camp. That's not what's important.


Don't you think not being able to make plays in camp is an indication he's not reverting back to his old form? Not saying he cant or wont but at what point do they need to see it?
I'm not going to throw the Towel in yet ....  
Bluesbreaker : 8/9/2016 3:22 pm : link
But It;s wadded up in a ball as we speak ....
Let's hope in another week he see's the field and shows
something and I really don't think he is gonna hang on
as the 6th wide-out they will send him off with an injury
settlement and a parade ...
Great Kid that Gave NYG some Life and sold a ton of Jerseys
He could have stepped on a nail for all we know but It
really doesn't look good .
RE: RE: RE: From camp reports  
steve in ky : 8/9/2016 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13063684 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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In comment 13063675 steve in ky said:


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In comment 13063645 Old Dirty Beckham said:


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it doesnt seem like Cruz is making any plays. I follow all the writers on twitter and they constantly are posting videos of guys making catches in 7 on 7 and 1 on 1. Cruz isnt showing up.

It's early and he's still coming back from injury and rounding to shape but I wonder at what point do the Giants need to see some production out of Cruz on the practice field.



For Cruz camp is all about his being able to get back to anywhere close to his old form. We know he can make plays if he can do that so I don't care if he catches one pass during camp. That's not what's important.



Don't you think not being able to make plays in camp is an indication he's not reverting back to his old form? Not saying he cant or wont but at what point do they need to see it?


I honestly don't think that is the priority. One goes hand and hand in that if he can get himself anywhere close to his old form he will be able to contribute. Now can he do that is the million dollar question. But he isn't trying to prove he can make plays at this point.
RE: I'm not going to throw the Towel in yet ....  
phillygiant : 8/9/2016 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13063685 Bluesbreaker said:
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But It;s wadded up in a ball as we speak ....
Let's hope in another week he see's the field and shows
something and I really don't think he is gonna hang on
as the 6th wide-out they will send him off with an injury
settlement and a parade ...
Great Kid that Gave NYG some Life and sold a ton of Jerseys
He could have stepped on a nail for all we know but It
really doesn't look good .


Silly overreaction....
'Cruz not playing Friday'...  
Torrag : 8/9/2016 3:27 pm : link
...not to go crazy with this but it's not what we wanted to hear about his latest comeback attempt. Frankly it's not a good sign.
RE: RE: RE: From camp reports  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2016 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13063681 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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In comment 13063667 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 13063645 Old Dirty Beckham said:


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it doesnt seem like Cruz is making any plays. I follow all the writers on twitter and they constantly are posting videos of guys making catches in 7 on 7 and 1 on 1. Cruz isnt showing up.

It's early and he's still coming back from injury and rounding to shape but I wonder at what point do the Giants need to see some production out of Cruz on the practice field.



There are lots of guys who make plays in camp. Camp isn't where you make evaluations, so I doubt they put that much weight on it. What's important is how players perform when they're actually being defended. We can all recite lots of names from past camps. How many of them are even in the league elsewhere.



Camp isn't where you make evaluations? Was that a serious comment?


You really believe 11 on 11s in shorts and 1 on 1s are where coaches are going to spend their time breaking down whether this player is going to help the roster in a real game? If you do, then move along. It's preseason games where tape is generated.
RE: 'Cruz not playing Friday'...  
phillygiant : 8/9/2016 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13063693 Torrag said:
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...not to go crazy with this but it's not what we wanted to hear about his latest comeback attempt. Frankly it's not a good sign.


http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2016/08/victor_cruz_questionable_for_preseason_opener_due.html#incart_river_index
RE: 'Cruz not playing Friday'...  
phillygiant : 8/9/2016 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13063693 Torrag said:
[quote] ...not to go crazy with this but it's not what we wanted to hear about his latest comeback attempt. Frankly it's not a good sign. [/quote

Chill people - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Echam not only do I agree  
Milton : 8/9/2016 3:34 pm : link
In comment 13063579 blueblood said:
Quote:
In comment 13063570 area junc said:
Quote: with u but I never quite bought the calf "injury". To me that smelled like a lie that snowballed.....they didn't want a setback distraction so they called it a calf.


guess they faked a surgery too???

It's easy to "fake" a surgery. They say he is going in for surgery on his calf and then they just remove his appendix. Nobody ever reads the appendix anyway.
RE: Echam not only do I agree  
Beer Man : 8/9/2016 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13063570 area junc said:
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with u but I never quite bought the calf "injury". To me that smelled like a lie that snowballed.....they didn't want a setback distraction so they called it a calf. Then it just continued

Dude hasn't played in 2 years and he still has to be held out? Tells u something right there
Whhhhaaaatttt? Having experienced a 2nd degree calf strain, I can confirm that they take 5 to 8 weeks to heal, and if you comeback too soon and re-injure it (as I did)the process starts all over again. There was nothing to gain by lying about Victor's condition.
Wow, just when I thought this board's IQ couldn't go lower  
WillieYoung : 8/9/2016 4:07 pm : link
BBI proved me wrong. Everything from "the calf injury was a lie that snowvballed" (I guess they operated on his calf to perpetuate the lie) to "it's time to admit he's never going to be the same". And my favorite "He needs the reps." How many freaking plays would he have gotten in on, at most, if he played in the first exhibition game? 10? But his career is over because the Giants decided not to play him 10 plays in a meaningless preseason game.
Want Cruz to Play again like everyone else  
Bluesbreaker : 8/9/2016 4:52 pm : link
RE: I'm not going to throw the Towel in yet ....
phillygiant : 3:25 pm : link : reply

I doubt Cruz thinks anythings silly at this point .

Need to see him make plays in a game against STARTERS
before I take the wadded towel and heave it .
Eh.  
AcidTest : 8/9/2016 5:00 pm : link
Just precautionary. No need to overreact. As with others, I won't start worrying until preseason game three.
Missed almost two years of football....  
kinard : 8/9/2016 5:08 pm : link
...was the expectation that he was going to jump on the field and start making plays all over the place after a week and a half of camp? What happened to easing him back into it?
Imagine re-acclimating yourself to the speed of the game after being hurt and out of football for almost 22 months?

Patience my Blue friends, patience. Let's see where we are in 30 days before we start pouring dirt on the career of #80.
RE: I don't understand why people are getting out of sort  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/9/2016 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13063643 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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over a groin strain. Pretty common football related injury, especially when you've been out of routine for a while.


I get being optimistic, but c'mon. The guy hasn't suited up to play a single down in nearly 2 years now. I obviously hope this is just a day to day thing, but you can't be sure with him, nor should you be.
RE: From camp reports  
Klaatu : 8/9/2016 5:24 pm : link
In comment 13063645 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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it doesnt seem like Cruz is making any plays. I follow all the writers on twitter and they constantly are posting videos of guys making catches in 7 on 7 and 1 on 1. Cruz isnt showing up.

It's early and he's still coming back from injury and rounding to shape but I wonder at what point do the Giants need to see some production out of Cruz on the practice field.


So, I guess you missed little tidbits like this:

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/8/2016 12:12 pm : link : reply
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 4m4 minutes ago

Really looks like Victor Cruz is reaching for that extra gear and finding it so far today. #Giants
RE: RE: I get sick of all the know it all over-speculative  
Reale01 : 8/9/2016 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13063612 SGMen said:
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In comment 13063604 Rory said:


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fuck heads who get all bent out of shape based on ones opinion of a matter with no factual evidence to back it up.

Also the report was "he COULD miss Fridays game"

Chill

Yes, I read that he COULD not WOULD be out as well. With Cruz, I get why folks get worked up. He is the #1 veteran I keep an eye on for return to form cause my thought is if he returns to 2014 form he is like 65-850-7, on par with Randle less the mental erros which cause turnovers for Eli, and he'd take our offense to the next level. If he is just a "body" a guy with a little left, a 6th wideout type, we will struggle some early I think.


People should read today's interview with Cruz. I understand the concern but unless you think he is lying it is not a big worry. He did not even say he would be out of PRACTICE tomorrow. I expect he will be limited and that he may be out of the game as a precaution, but totally agree with those who say it will be more of an issue later in the pre-season.
Cruz  
NJLCO : 8/9/2016 6:01 pm : link
The angst is not knowing if he is ready to go. It is not like he was being pushed from the start of camp. If you are sitting in the front office --the major problem is --can you depend on him for the long run of this season? Enough young kids in the WR's ranks to say lets not take a chance. Sept 3rd is the date I believe for the 53 man roster. At this point not sure Victor will be there. Hey end of the day --walk on---super bowl champ and made some good $$$.
Problem is,  
Doomster : 8/9/2016 9:54 pm : link
Good rest him up
blueblood : 2:15 pm : link : reply
He needs to be ready for week 1.. I dont care if he is ready for preseason game one..


the only way we know if he is ready for week one, is if he plays in exhibition games......He needs to show he can cut, accelerate, and take a hit.....you don't want to be in a position to find that out in the first game....

You don't want a groin injury to worsen....so if he misses the first game, so what.....but he has to get out on the field before the season starts....we wasted a roster spot most of last season, because of him.....he has to show he can play in exhibition games, so another player isn't wasted because of him this year.....

I said weeks ago....he has to get on the field, and he has to be able to stay there...if he is on the roster for week 1, and only lasts a few weeks, he will hurt this team again.....

Like I said, if Cruz makes it back, it takes a lot of pressure off of SS....if he doesn't, then SS is going to have more pressure on him to produce.....

Let's hope Victor Cruz is ready to play 16+ games.....
If he can't play week 2  
DavidinBMNY : 8/9/2016 10:05 pm : link
He's not making this team.
RE: Wow, just when I thought this board's IQ couldn't go lower  
BlueLou : 8/9/2016 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13063771 WillieYoung said:
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BBI proved me wrong. Everything from "the calf injury was a lie that snowvballed" (I guess they operated on his calf to perpetuate the lie) to "it's time to admit he's never going to be the same". And my favorite "He needs the reps." How many freaking plays would he have gotten in on, at most, if he played in the first exhibition game? 10? But his career is over because the Giants decided not to play him 10 plays in a meaningless preseason game.


Willie you should by now never be surprised by demonstrated idiocy on this board...

Or any other internet discussion forum.
RE: Missed almost two years of football....  
Mason : 8/9/2016 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13063839 kinard said:
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...was the expectation that he was going to jump on the field and start making plays all over the place after a week and a half of camp? What happened to easing him back into it?
Imagine re-acclimating yourself to the speed of the game after being hurt and out of football for almost 22 months?

Patience my Blue friends, patience. Let's see where we are in 30 days before we start pouring dirt on the career of #80.


The problem with this is that last year at this time Cruz was talking up about playing in the 1st preseason game. I have hopes for him but there is also reality. This is Cruz 2nd attempt at a comeback not first.
I'm rooting for Cruz to make the team  
David in LA : 8/10/2016 12:58 am : link
but whatever contribution he makes is a bonus. 2 years is a lot of time to miss in any professional sport, especially when it's coming off a major injury. I don't think we're necessarily screwed if he doesn't warrant significant snaps anymore. I have a good feeling that Shepard is the real deal, and something tells me if Cruz can't cut it anymore, we supplement that production with a combination of Geremy Davis, and Dwayne Harris.
RE: I'm rooting for Cruz to make the team  
SGMen : 8/10/2016 1:19 am : link
In comment 13064176 David in LA said:
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but whatever contribution he makes is a bonus. 2 years is a lot of time to miss in any professional sport, especially when it's coming off a major injury. I don't think we're necessarily screwed if he doesn't warrant significant snaps anymore. I have a good feeling that Shepard is the real deal, and something tells me if Cruz can't cut it anymore, we supplement that production with a combination of Geremy Davis, and Dwayne Harris.
Next man up is WR G. Davis I think. The 2nd year man will have a learning curve I'm sure which is why I'd so prefer for Cruz to just be "effective" and "serviceable" as a legit #2 or #3. Even a 60-725-5 type season from him would be great. I was hoping for a 70-900-8 type year before the season, but I tend to be overly optimistic at times. LOL.

Go Cruz! Go Davis!! Go Shepard!!! Go King!!!!

PS: D. Harris should remain on specials only if at all possible.
Is this where we get bent out of shape  
Randy in CT : 8/10/2016 7:41 am : link
because a player coming back from tough injuries, is either slow in his return, struggling overall, or the tough decision might need to be made where he is done?

Let's just see what plays out?
Sounds good  
The Tempest : 8/11/2016 11:52 am : link
I'm not playing friday either.
area junk..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/13/2016 7:35 pm : link
reiterating exactly what a shitty poster he is.

Cruz is milking things? Let me guess, Nicks was dogging it too?

Take your fake insider schtick elsewhere and stop acting as if you know what the fuck is going on with Cruz.
or you'll do  
area junc : 8/13/2016 7:36 pm : link
what?
Continue to call..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/13/2016 7:43 pm : link
out your awesome stupidity.
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