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NFT: UFC 202: Diaz vs McGregor 2

Vin R : 8/16/2016 1:25 pm


UFC 202 Press Conference
Wednesday August 17th
4PM/1PM ETPT


UFC 202
Saturday August 20th

Prelims: 8PM/5PM ETPT

Main Card: 10PM/7PM ETPT

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Diaz vs McGregor

Anthony Johnson vs Glover Teixeira

Rick Story vs Donald Cerrone

Hyun Gyu Lim vs Mike Perry

Tim Means vs Sabah Homasi

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Said it earlier  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/18/2016 5:35 pm : link
He's in Conor's head
big diaz fan but on what earth is conor  
area junc : 8/18/2016 6:05 pm : link
a better striker than diaz? who TF does mcgregor spar with because diaz bros spar with name boxers like andre ward and they've been doing it 10+ years

it's the same story as the last fight: mcgregor is hyped but diaz is simply the better fighter. he's been in it longer, he has better sparring partners, more experience....he's just better everywhere.

mcgregor's got the speed advantage but that's it. imo
Area Junc I think Conor  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/19/2016 10:19 am : link
Uses his kicks better than Nate. He's a bit more diverse amd dynamic striker. Nate amd Nick's boxing is top tier in MMA. They are willing to take damage which is dangerous but most of their losses come to wrestlers amd top tier BJJ fuys who can weather their sub games.

RewTched the last round yesterday. Conor can win but the end IMO Will be same. Conor was always willing to be aggressive and take shots but as Nate said. Hes not fighting midgets anymore. Nate can take his shots. Wont get tired. Hex getting subbed again. Watch the choke. Nate transitioned from one sub to the next. It's going to end. Would love to see a heel hook or a knee bar. This will be there all day
Was expecting some fireworks tonight at the weigh in  
Vin R : 8/19/2016 10:23 am : link
but now McGregor & Diaz entourages are banned
RE: Was expecting some fireworks tonight at the weigh in  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/19/2016 10:25 am : link
In comment 13077273 Vin R said:
[quote] but now McGregor & Diaz entourages are banned [/quotke]

Dont worry Vin. I'm sure there will be more than enough chatter between the two actual fighters lol
RE: RE: Was expecting some fireworks tonight at the weigh in  
Vin R : 8/19/2016 10:30 am : link
In comment 13077279 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 13077273 Vin R said:
[quote] but now McGregor & Diaz entourages are banned [/quotke]

Dont worry Vin. I'm sure there will be more than enough chatter between the two actual fighters lol


That is true lol
You'll be able to find me on the couch  
JonC : 8/19/2016 12:01 pm : link
from 4pm to 1am. #WARMcGregor!
Someone was injured at the presser and is filing a lawsuit  
Vin R : 8/19/2016 1:41 pm : link
"There could be suspensions, community service, it's gonna be ugly."

- Dana White


Wow..
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RE: You'll be able to find me on the couch  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/19/2016 4:04 pm : link
In comment 13077472 JonC said:
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from 4pm to 1am. #WARMcGregor!


Enjoy Jon but don't expect a different outcome :). But then again Michael Bisbing is a champ so wtf do I know.
RE: RE: You'll be able to find me on the couch  
JonC : 8/19/2016 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13077879 LauderdaleMatty said:
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from 4pm to 1am. #WARMcGregor!



Enjoy Jon but don't expect a different outcome :). But then again Michael Bisbing is a champ so wtf do I know.


Hey LM, Conor was handling him fine on the feet for eight minutes. Let's see what kind of shape he's in and if he can control the energy output. Got to keep it standing, I like Conor's attack over Nate's boxing but the BJJ is a gamechanger with with Nate's limbs.
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LauderdaleMatty : 8/19/2016 6:25 pm : link
In comment 13077887 JonC said:
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from 4pm to 1am. #WARMcGregor!



Enjoy Jon but don't expect a different outcome :). But then again Michael Bisbing is a champ so wtf do I know.



Hey LM, Conor was handling him fine on the feet for eight minutes. Let's see what kind of shape he's in and if he can control the energy output. Got to keep it standing, I like Conor's attack over Nate's boxing but the BJJ is a gamechanger with with Nate's limbs.


Im interested to see how both guys are w full camp for each other. Conor keeps bringing up a lot of excuses but Nate had virtually no camp. I'll say it again. As good as Conor is at striking he's not huge for 155 never mind 170. His reach at 145 made guys step into his power. If Nate could handle what RDA did he can handle 5 rounds of McGregor IMO.

And as you pointed out that long build and Nate's BJJ make submissions really a huge advantage for him. Conor doesn't have the sub defense IMO to survive 5 rounds. Nate is the better fighter when looking at their MMA skills and I think it will show w a full camp. We will see as always. One of us will be wrong but at least not as sore as the two fighters lol it's not going to be pretty but should be an insane fight
RE: Someone was injured at the presser and is filing a lawsuit  
montanagiant : 8/19/2016 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13077644 Vin R said:
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"There could be suspensions, community service, it's gonna be ugly."

- Dana White


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McGregor throws like a girl
IT'S TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!  
Vin R : 8/20/2016 11:31 am : link
What's funny about this fight is I'm not sure these  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/20/2016 12:56 pm : link
Two guys IMO aren't top 5 level at 170. Make I'm Conor's case he will struggle against anyone In the top 10
Nice bit on Sports Science about Conor's reach  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/20/2016 3:00 pm : link
Advantage at FW vs WW. What isn't mentioned is that my guess is he will still weigh around 170 at right time. Nate won't be much more but I bet he's 180ish.

Now Woodley Lawler Maia and say Rory would all be IMO at least 185 come first bell. He can mess around w Nate who has spent almost his whole career at 170 but he's insane if he thinks he can carve out a career at 170 IMO
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Anyone know where I'd  
JayBinQueens : 8/20/2016 4:10 pm : link
Be able to get a streaming link later?
CODY!!  
Vin R : 8/20/2016 9:56 pm : link
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RE: CODY!!  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/20/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13079657 Vin R said:
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Think he kills Cruz. He's like Conor. A monster at 135
Any streams out there?  
giant24 : 8/20/2016 10:16 pm : link
appreciate it. thx.

great fight  
dep026 : 8/21/2016 12:30 am : link
right outcome....
I had it for Diaz  
BlackLight : 8/21/2016 12:31 am : link
Had him winning 2, 3, and 5.
That was a great fight  
SimpleMan : 8/21/2016 12:32 am : link
and very close. I think it was the right decision. The 5th was really tight.
RE: I had it for Diaz  
dep026 : 8/21/2016 12:35 am : link
In comment 13079762 BlackLight said:
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Had him winning 2, 3, and 5.


Diaz had a flurry at the end of roudn 2, but was knocked down twice. I had 1, 2, and 4. And he was more dominant in 1 and 4 than diaz was in 3 and 5.
That was awesome  
B in ALB : 8/21/2016 12:35 am : link
Part 3 has to happen.
What was Diaz talking about?  
SimpleMan : 8/21/2016 12:36 am : link
Something about his camp and being hurt.
Rumble Johnson  
B in ALB : 8/21/2016 12:37 am : link
Holy shit. He's ridiculous.
No clue how anybody had  
Big Rick in FL : 8/21/2016 12:38 am : link
Diaz winning round 2. He put on a little show for the last minute & a half. Up until then it was all Conor. He had a few knockdowns. Definitely won round 1 & 4. Diaz definitely won 3 & 5.
RE: What was Diaz talking about?  
halfback20 : 8/21/2016 12:40 am : link
In comment 13079767 SimpleMan said:
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Something about his camp and being hurt.


I think he said he was hurt and couldn't train but didn't want to make excuses.

Also believe he insinuated he won't fight again unless it's McGregor/Diaz 3.
RE: No clue how anybody had  
dep026 : 8/21/2016 12:41 am : link
In comment 13079769 Big Rick in FL said:
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Diaz winning round 2. He put on a little show for the last minute & a half. Up until then it was all Conor. He had a few knockdowns. Definitely won round 1 & 4. Diaz definitely won 3 & 5.


Thats how I saw it, and even 5 was basically a push til the last 5 seconds where he took McGregor down. Connor definitely landed cleaner and more impactful blows.

Diaz should take speaking courses from Balboa. Holy good god.
Conor says he broke his foot..  
BurberryManning : 8/21/2016 12:42 am : link
and hobbled off there at the end.

A final match at 155lb is in the cards
McGregor won it  
giant24 : 8/21/2016 12:42 am : link
in my opinion especially if you looked at their faces, Diaz was busted up pretty bad but what a warrior he kept coming.
Got to hand it to McGregor coming up to 170 to fight and still having power to knock Diaz down a few times. SHould be interesting at 155 if it happens.
McGregor also broke his foot at some point with his leg kicks and is limping badly out of the arena.
RE: McGregor won it  
BH28 : 8/21/2016 12:51 am : link
In comment 13079776 giant24 said:
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in my opinion especially if you looked at their faces, Diaz was busted up pretty bad but what a warrior he kept coming.
Got to hand it to McGregor coming up to 170 to fight and still having power to knock Diaz down a few times. SHould be interesting at 155 if it happens.
McGregor also broke his foot at some point with his leg kicks and is limping badly out of the arena.


You can't judge by how their face looks. Diaz has so much scar tissue on his face, if you sneeze on him, he'd look like that.

Of course that moron thinks it's a conspiracy that he lost. Go smoke some more weed with your brother, and think about all the ways the man is keeping you down.
Awesome fight  
Matt G : 8/21/2016 12:52 am : link
I would rather see McGregor defend his title but I get why they would do the trilogy...
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BurberryManning : 8/21/2016 12:54 am : link
In comment 13079780 BH28 said:
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in my opinion especially if you looked at their faces, Diaz was busted up pretty bad but what a warrior he kept coming.
Got to hand it to McGregor coming up to 170 to fight and still having power to knock Diaz down a few times. SHould be interesting at 155 if it happens.
McGregor also broke his foot at some point with his leg kicks and is limping badly out of the arena.



You can't judge by how their face looks. Diaz has so much scar tissue on his face, if you sneeze on him, he'd look like that.

Of course that moron thinks it's a conspiracy that he lost. Go smoke some more weed with your brother, and think about all the ways the man is keeping you down.
Yep, part of me began to want Diaz to win due to some of Conor's antics but every time he opens his mouth he comes off so unlikeable. His post fight comments were pathetic.
What's funny about these two guys  
bhill410 : 8/21/2016 7:51 am : link
Is that if you hate mcgregor (which I get) for being who he is then you also have yo really really hate the Diaz brothers. It's as tho Conner is able to still be like able while being a jerk while the Diaz brothers are just a holes. And I am not sure the casual fan realized that going into the fight. It's not like mcgregor was fighting Frankie Edgar who everyone wants to root for / this is friggin Nate Diaz the less talented version of the biggest pair of jerks in the UFC.
McGregor won.  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/21/2016 8:36 am : link
Nate has only himself to blame. He and Nick do this all the time. Nick claimed GSP had a spy in his camp. It's just talk. Props to Connor making sure he fight never hit he mat

Surprised how gassed Conor got. The legs kicks were smart. Won the fight.

Lastly 155 was where this fight should have been anyway. Conor's runaway ego got he best of him w this 170 class. He's too small I said it earlier he's not even a top 10 guy at 170. That's not a knock btw. He's not a thick dude. 155 was always where he was heading before the RDA injury.

As for the other two top fights Cerrone looks great at 170 and Rumble almost killed Texiera who is a tough SOB.
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halfback20 : 8/21/2016 8:42 am : link
In comment 13079773 dep026 said:
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Diaz winning round 2. He put on a little show for the last minute & a half. Up until then it was all Conor. He had a few knockdowns. Definitely won round 1 & 4. Diaz definitely won 3 & 5.



Thats how I saw it, and even 5 was basically a push til the last 5 seconds where he took McGregor down. Connor definitely landed cleaner and more impactful blows.

Diaz should take speaking courses from Balboa. Holy good god.


According to the stats Diaz landed more significant strikes throughout the fight and in the 5th round, i believe.
If you scored fight as a whole  
bhill410 : 8/21/2016 9:29 am : link
Diaz won if only because of how dominant he was in the third, but when you score it round to round mcgregor clearly (IMO) won. It's just tough to forget how much better Diaz was in 3rd
I had McGregor winning until  
montanagiant : 8/21/2016 10:47 am : link
He purposely started running away to bleed clock in the last 2 rds. When he did that and with the take down at the end, I thought Diaz won.
Glover's tooth went airborne off the uppercut  
Matt G : 8/21/2016 11:23 am : link
It's going to be interesting to see if DC can weather the early storm again and if Rumble can make any adjustments to keep DC off him...
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BH28 : 8/21/2016 11:34 am : link
In comment 13079992 montanagiant said:
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He purposely started running away to bleed clock in the last 2 rds. When he did that and with the take down at the end, I thought Diaz won.


If you go by round by round, Conor won rounds 1,2, and 4. Diaz didn't do anything in round 2 until about a minute left. Conor recovered from his round 3 whooping to win round 4. The only debate was whether or not round 3 was a 10-8 round. One of the judges saw it that way, hence the 47-47 score.

Diaz should have taken advantage of Conor turning his back to him instead of bitching about it post fight. He's got every excuse in the book when he loses.
I was surprised it wasnt a 10-8  
dep026 : 8/21/2016 1:16 pm : link
in round 2. Connor knocked him down 2x and got some heavy kicks in as well. I guess the last minute cost him a 10-8.
So awesome to see the fight go the distance  
Vin R : 8/21/2016 3:25 pm : link
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montanagiant : 8/21/2016 3:31 pm : link
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He purposely started running away to bleed clock in the last 2 rds. When he did that and with the take down at the end, I thought Diaz won.



If you go by round by round, Conor won rounds 1,2, and 4. Diaz didn't do anything in round 2 until about a minute left. Conor recovered from his round 3 whooping to win round 4. The only debate was whether or not round 3 was a 10-8 round. One of the judges saw it that way, hence the 47-47 score.

Diaz should have taken advantage of Conor turning his back to him instead of bitching about it post fight. He's got every excuse in the book when he loses.

I can see that to a point, but IMO if a fighter is purposely playing stay away, that has to cost him. If you do that then Diaz wins both final rounds
Diaz lost because like some fighters refuses to adjust  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/21/2016 7:51 pm : link
I've made it clear I'm not a McGregor fan but he changed his game plan w the leg kicks. A blue print from the
RDA fight. Without that he loses IMO Nick and Nate never ever change up. Nick complained that GSP had a spy because he was prepared for Nicks mat work. Like GSP a High level BJJ black belt can't watch film.

Nate needed to work on take downs. Fuck w so many leg kicks the shot was there. Not trying to muscle Conor on the cage. He also waited almost 2 rounds to crowd Conor. Why? Conor is t going to dirty box or grapple.

Diaz and McGreggor can now fight again at 155. It's about $$$ and I don't blame them for that. Conor' doesn't want to cut to 145 IMO. There's also no way the UFC wants Conor near Alvarez or Khabib right now. Both whom at 155 will take the match to the ground. So we get a trilogy for $$$. Good we will get to see another good fight but neither with a win Nate is still not a contender at 155 and Conor shouldn't be either. .

202 was just awesome  
Vin R : 8/22/2016 9:17 am : link
all around and Matty I agree about Cody - he's going to destroy Cruz
Based on Dana and Conor's post fight comments...  
Matt G : 8/22/2016 10:01 am : link
The trilogy will happen but it's probably not Conor's next fight... Conor seems to still have his eyes on that LW strap... Dana was fairly adamant that he defends or vacates the FW belt... Nate isn't taking another fight other than Conor...

I rarely buy into those canned lines of "the loss was the best thing that could have happened." And to be honest I felt like Conor was getting detoured similar to BJ Penn taking fights two and three classes above him... But after seeing the changes that he made in Saturday, Conor will come out the other side of this trilogy a much better fighter than he was coming in...

I think Conor's KO power will translate at LW... Nate is not the "normal" LW chin... Poirier is top 10 at LW and we saw what happened... Alvarez is gonna try to wrestle Conor to death... I think Conor can beat Alvarez but Khabib is a very bad match up... Conor's TD defense is better than what he showed vs Mendes on a bum knee, but it's nowhere near Aldo's level...
BTW this was awesome to see as well  
Vin R : 8/22/2016 10:02 am : link
Conor will wind up at 155  
JonC : 8/22/2016 12:49 pm : link
quite possibly in his next fight, unless he gets onboard to defend the 145 strap versus Aldo. He's only 28, he figures to grow and get stronger and better suited to 155, although I don't see anyway to argue his ground game and wrestling aren't going to match up with Khabib, for one.
Not a slight to Conor whom u guys know I'm all over about his ground  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/24/2016 7:16 am : link
Game to say Khabib is a bad match up. I think he's the best 155er out there. Just needs to stay healthy.

Btw Cerrone wants to come back to 155. He beat Alvarez. Think he can beat a Conor on a good night if he doesn't do his slow start. His stand up is easily as good and anyone's. There are a lot of fights for Conor at 155. All of them can be as tough or tougher than aDiaz and only one at 145. And Alvarez wants no part of Khabib and would love the $$$ that come w McGregor.

Alvarez dossnt have to get Conor down to win but to crowd him and negate that speed. To be honest Alverez is an easier fight for Conor than Khabib, Cerrone, and RDA again IMO.
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