NFT: UFC 202: Diaz vs McGregor 2

Diaz will embarrass him, and it won't even be close.

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In comment 13073034 ATL_Giants said:

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Diaz will embarrass him, and it won't even be close.

He's going to sub him again. Diaz let him tire himself out last time. A d despite all the crap Connor's camp is putting out. Diaz is still to long for Connor. Hat he has zero TDD and as I said before is going to hurt him. Negates some of his leg strikes if he has to worry about being taken down he's just Not a top level grappler and isn't big enough to keep Diaz off of him once he closes

In comment 13073144 LauderdaleMatty said:

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In comment 13073034 ATL_Giants said: Quote: Diaz will embarrass him, and it won't even be close. He's going to sub him again. Diaz let him tire himself out last time. A d despite all the crap Connor's camp is putting out. Diaz is still to long for Connor. Hat he has zero TDD and as I said before is going to hurt him. Negates some of his leg strikes if he has to worry about being taken down he's just Not a top level grappler and isn't big enough to keep Diaz off of him once he closes

Yeah, I rewatched their first fight last night. McGregor has brilliant command of his reach, but its still not quite enough. He will come swinging hard, and he's powerful so he's got a puncher's chance.
I just don't think Diaz will come in making mistakes. His scars will cut and he'll bleed, but I don't think Conor will pose a serious threat.

How much of an edge Diaz has over Conor in the sub game makes me think Conor has a really tough time winning. Diaz loses because of bleeding from cuts is more possible than Connor knocking him out IMO.

Rematch that RDA aDiaz fight. He took 10 times the abuse from him. And RDAs BJJ was able to stymie Nate. I see Nate winning by sub again. He's a tricky lanky dude . Hate that body type. I'm Connor's size without the reach of course but those long limbs are a bitch.

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At 155. Alvarez IMO is ducking him. Hes a one a done champ IMO. Most of his fights have been snoozers in the UFC Ferguson RDA should be a great fight. It was good to see Dana make Woodly fight Thompson. Should he then same deal for Alvarez. Fight whom they put up There. And Khabib is undefeated amd how healthy

I hope Conor drops back down to 145. I want to see a rematch against Aldo

The Silver in Judo trains w under one of our guys in NJ. He goes to the main academy a lot too. Hes a monster

As for Conor I don't think he ever makes that cut to 145. Hes still young but every year it gets harder IMO. AND while I'm sure he could do it, without the IVs its going to suck for him to go through that.

Also which Aldo shows up. His last fight w Frankie was one of his best in a while. But Frankie is one of the smaller guys at 145. A!do totally negated his wrestling. MCGregor is the opposite. It's all about the stand-up and his range Can Aldo either take him down or not walk into his power.

In comment 13074702 LauderdaleMatty said:

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The Silver in Judo trains w under one of our guys in NJ. He goes to the main academy a lot too. Hes a monster As for Conor I don't think he ever makes that cut to 145. Hes still young but every year it gets harder IMO. AND while I'm sure he could do it, without the IVs its going to suck for him to go through that. Also which Aldo shows up. His last fight w Frankie was one of his best in a while. But Frankie is one of the smaller guys at 145. A!do totally negated his wrestling. MCGregor is the opposite. It's all about the stand-up and his range Can Aldo either take him down or not walk into his power.

Whoa that's awesome, is he making the jump to the UFC anytime soon?

And I agree about Conor, it's going to be very interesting after 202. A lot riding on that fight

The bow and arrow choke in the semifinals was classic BJJ. He came down and trained w is one day the last time Renzo did a seminar. Just another level athlete.

Connor should wind up at 155. He basically just said he has nothing to prove at 145 since Frankie lost to Aldo. To be honest that should be his class. At 170 he one of the smallest guys. Guys like Woodley and Rory would rag doll him. Most casual fans don't realize Nate's career has been mostly at 155. Not sure why they don't just right there. IMO they only fought at 170 so Nate could make weight.

Diaz and his camp acted like punks

Conor will be defending his title next or he'll be "giving it up"

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Meant to play mind games but the spin coming out of his camp is a bit much.

So much was made of the weight and his diet but he never once talks about the challemges presented by bright guys whose reach matches his. Never mind that he is in a serious deficit when it comes to the ground game. He literally has one path to a win. Striking.

Nate needs to be smarter this fight amd grapple or dirty has to take downs and submisions. At least IMO. Sure he can hang on hi feet but why give Conor that punchers chance?

And I caught the press conference after Conor was already there.. Didn't know he was late until after. UFC definitely made a little more Saturday night after that scene, can't wait for the weigh in tomorrow

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as are plenty of UFC fighters vs. Nate... Fortunately for Conor... Nate (and Nick) won't force a fight to the ground... He will stand and trade... Nate is a good boxer, but Conor is the superior, more dynamic striker, IMO... The biggest question is can Conor maintain the pace for 5RDs... Nate's chin and cardio are phenomenal... If Conor fades, Nate swarms/smothers/strangles him again...

Per usual, Dan Hardy gives an excellent breakdown of the fight...

It's going to be a great fight...

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LauderdaleMatty : 7:32 am : link : reply Nate needs to be smarter this fight amd grapple or dirty has to take downs and submisions. At least IMO. Sure he can hang on hi feet but why give Conor that punchers chance?

Nate will give Conor that punchers chance because that is what Nate (and Nick) seem to do and both of their records would be much better if they would make an attempt to take more fights to the ground.

Isnt known for one punch power. Nate and Nick are opportunists in the sub game and mybmind keeps going back to the end of Rd 1 when the bell rang and Nick almost slid right into a knee bar. No offence to Kavenaugh and the rwst of hat camp but the grappling there doesn't come close to what Nat gets to face in just Nick and Jake Shields who Natehas trained w for years. His BJJ just isn't close and since I dont think he will kick as much for fear of take downs I just dont see him having the ability to knock Nate out. Nate can still go for subs non stop. Even after getting hammered for 5 rounds vs RDA he was going for subs. Conor gets subbed IMO. Rd 2 or 3 this time

Nate now has a full camp too. I dont givea shit what Conor's excuses were. I mean they said not having to cut weight hurt Conor. WTF. Nate coming in 10 days and performing like he did was amazing. W a full camp. He's going to be very tough. Amd he will be talking shit from the opening bell. Conor is the one used to getting under peoples skin. Think Nate is in his head like he was in Aldo's

Conor can win but his path is not an easy one.

But after watching the press again - Conor didn't seem like his cocky/confident self, he seemed more on the defensive and frustrated. Nate is definitely in his head.

I'm a fan of them both. My heart says Conor, but my head says Nate

Today is Camp Filthy's girlfriends birthday.

Happy 29th, Joanna Champion!

In comment 13075743 GiantFilthy said:

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Today is Camp Filthy's girlfriends birthday. Happy 29th, Joanna Champion!

Ew.

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Now.. Miesha Tate on the other hand.

And eyeballs and soul. Actually I think that goes for every female is weight is equal against Joanna.

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Her face?

She's a terrific fighter and a great champion, but, come on...her face would make an onion cry.

I gotcha.

But pfft. I want a woman who forces others to require surgery.

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In comment 13075762 GiantFilthy said: Quote: . Her face? She's a terrific fighter and a great champion, but, come on...her face would make an onion cry.

Just threw up in my mouth..

Has burned my eyes and caused more damage than any hit I've ever taken. Surgery scheduled Filthy hope ur happy

"You've got pictures of me up in his garage, with him punching me in the face. What the fuck? Who does that? That's trying to make yourself believe something. That's all. I just think he's trying to hype his own self up, but when he goes to sleep at night, he remembers what happened the last time."

- Nate Diaz

He's in Conor's head

a better striker than diaz? who TF does mcgregor spar with because diaz bros spar with name boxers like andre ward and they've been doing it 10+ years

it's the same story as the last fight: mcgregor is hyped but diaz is simply the better fighter. he's been in it longer, he has better sparring partners, more experience....he's just better everywhere.

mcgregor's got the speed advantage but that's it. imo

Uses his kicks better than Nate. He's a bit more diverse amd dynamic striker. Nate amd Nick's boxing is top tier in MMA. They are willing to take damage which is dangerous but most of their losses come to wrestlers amd top tier BJJ fuys who can weather their sub games.

RewTched the last round yesterday. Conor can win but the end IMO Will be same. Conor was always willing to be aggressive and take shots but as Nate said. Hes not fighting midgets anymore. Nate can take his shots. Wont get tired. Hex getting subbed again. Watch the choke. Nate transitioned from one sub to the next. It's going to end. Would love to see a heel hook or a knee bar. This will be there all day

but now McGregor & Diaz entourages are banned

In comment 13077273 Vin R said:
[quote] but now McGregor & Diaz entourages are banned [/quotke]

Dont worry Vin. I'm sure there will be more than enough chatter between the two actual fighters lol

In comment 13077279 LauderdaleMatty said:

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In comment 13077273 Vin R said: [quote] but now McGregor & Diaz entourages are banned [/quotke] Dont worry Vin. I'm sure there will be more than enough chatter between the two actual fighters lol

That is true lol

from 4pm to 1am. #WARMcGregor!

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In comment 13077472 JonC said:

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from 4pm to 1am. #WARMcGregor!

Enjoy Jon but don't expect a different outcome :). But then again Michael Bisbing is a champ so wtf do I know.

In comment 13077879 LauderdaleMatty said:

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In comment 13077472 JonC said: Quote: from 4pm to 1am. #WARMcGregor! Enjoy Jon but don't expect a different outcome :). But then again Michael Bisbing is a champ so wtf do I know.

Hey LM, Conor was handling him fine on the feet for eight minutes. Let's see what kind of shape he's in and if he can control the energy output. Got to keep it standing, I like Conor's attack over Nate's boxing but the BJJ is a gamechanger with with Nate's limbs.

In comment 13077887 JonC said:

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In comment 13077879 LauderdaleMatty said: Quote: In comment 13077472 JonC said: Quote: from 4pm to 1am. #WARMcGregor! Enjoy Jon but don't expect a different outcome :). But then again Michael Bisbing is a champ so wtf do I know. Hey LM, Conor was handling him fine on the feet for eight minutes. Let's see what kind of shape he's in and if he can control the energy output. Got to keep it standing, I like Conor's attack over Nate's boxing but the BJJ is a gamechanger with with Nate's limbs.

Im interested to see how both guys are w full camp for each other. Conor keeps bringing up a lot of excuses but Nate had virtually no camp. I'll say it again. As good as Conor is at striking he's not huge for 155 never mind 170. His reach at 145 made guys step into his power. If Nate could handle what RDA did he can handle 5 rounds of McGregor IMO.

And as you pointed out that long build and Nate's BJJ make submissions really a huge advantage for him. Conor doesn't have the sub defense IMO to survive 5 rounds. Nate is the better fighter when looking at their MMA skills and I think it will show w a full camp. We will see as always. One of us will be wrong but at least not as sore as the two fighters lol it's not going to be pretty but should be an insane fight

In comment 13077644 Vin R said:

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McGregor throws like a girl

Two guys IMO aren't top 5 level at 170. Make I'm Conor's case he will struggle against anyone In the top 10

Advantage at FW vs WW. What isn't mentioned is that my guess is he will still weigh around 170 at right time. Nate won't be much more but I bet he's 180ish.

Now Woodley Lawler Maia and say Rory would all be IMO at least 185 come first bell. He can mess around w Nate who has spent almost his whole career at 170 but he's insane if he thinks he can carve out a career at 170 IMO
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