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PK Josh Brown Suspended 1 Game for Violating Conduct Policy

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/17/2016 3:57 pm
FYI...
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/17/2016 3:58 pm : link
Details..
Kicker Josh Brown suspended for first game of season - ( New Window )
So no Josh Brown for Dallas?  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/17/2016 3:58 pm : link
Interesting.
Any word what he did?  
Larry in Pencilvania : 8/17/2016 3:59 pm : link
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What "conduct" did he violate?  
NYGmen58 : 8/17/2016 3:59 pm : link
How can the League issue a suspension without clearly stating what he did??
What did he do?  
Motley Two : 8/17/2016 4:00 pm : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/17/2016 4:00 pm : link
No details provided.

Yes, he is out for Dallas game.
Sure...right before the Dallas game.  
Klaatu : 8/17/2016 4:01 pm : link
Well, that sucks.
I don't think the NFL allows kickers to get tats  
FranknWeezer : 8/17/2016 4:01 pm : link


Something about "protecting the shield."
NFL trying to help Dallas out  
DennyInDenville : 8/17/2016 4:03 pm : link
This is actually crappy news damn.

Do we sign a freaking kicker for one week? What the hell

Let OBJ kick week 1, fck signing a kicker and taking that roster spot.
Does he count against a roster spot for that week?  
okayrene : 8/17/2016 4:04 pm : link
Just wondering if we're gonna have to burn 2 spots on a kicker. That would stink.
RE: NFL trying to help Dallas out  
NYGmen58 : 8/17/2016 4:04 pm : link
In comment 13075011 DennyInDenville said:
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This is actually crappy news damn.

Do we sign a freaking kicker for one week? What the hell

Let OBJ kick week 1, fck signing a kicker and taking that roster spot.


Suspended players do not count against the 53, so it's not an issue of "taking that roster spot".

They will sign someone that week and release him after Brown is reinstated.
There's already another kicker on the roster  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2016 4:05 pm : link
Obarski? and no I don't think it counts an extra spot unless they keep two beyond week 1.
Can Brad Wing  
ChicagoMarty : 8/17/2016 4:05 pm : link
pk?
The Tom Obarski Era Begins.  
Klaatu : 8/17/2016 4:05 pm : link
.....
Link - ( New Window )
TMZ Sports has the video.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/17/2016 4:05 pm : link
I'm going to be the asshole the lofts out a guess.  
LI NHB : 8/17/2016 4:05 pm : link
I got money on a DUI arrest that flew under the radar.
RE: Does he count against a roster spot for that week?  
NYGmen58 : 8/17/2016 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13075015 okayrene said:
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Just wondering if we're gonna have to burn 2 spots on a kicker. That would stink.


Again, no we would not have to take use 2 spots on a kicker for week one.
Damn!  
ryanmkeane : 8/17/2016 4:05 pm : link
Brown is the last of our worries.
The NFL can go to hell.  
Red Dog : 8/17/2016 4:05 pm : link
They are killing the game with this suspension shit.
Any young legs available currently?  
Sean : 8/17/2016 4:06 pm : link
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Meet Tom Obarski.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/17/2016 4:06 pm : link
From Zierlein's draft profile of Obarski on nfl.com:
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ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Held down both kicking and punting duties all four years at Concordia. Showed strong accuracy from distance as a senior making 9 of 10 from 40-plus yards, including a 56-yarder. Kicked a 59-yard field goal as a sophomore and had longs of 56 in each of his next two seasons.
WEAKNESSES Power in his field goals doesn't translate to kickoffs, with a career touchback average of about 30 percent. Had a disastrous campaign as a junior kicker, missing all 7 kicks from 40-­49 yards.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 7 or priority free agent
BOTTOM LINE Former high school soccer standout with a quality leg from distance, knocking down 5 of 8 kicks during his career from 50-plus, including makes from 59, 56 and 56. While his lack of kickoff power hurts, he could be drafted on his deep accuracy and strong senior performance. Obarski also drilled a 49-yarder in the Senior Bowl game.

Not worried about his Junior slump. I mean, he'll face way less pressure against Dallas than he did at Concordia, against the likes of St. Olaf and Duluth Lutheran.
I wonder if this is why he was out earlier in training camp  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/17/2016 4:06 pm : link
excused for a day.
Vet PKs  
Big Blue '56 : 8/17/2016 4:07 pm : link
are a dime a dozen if we plan on going that route, imo, especially for just 1 game
He must have done one of the following:  
NYGmen58 : 8/17/2016 4:07 pm : link
• Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving: the use or threat of violence;
domestic violence and other forms of partner abuse; theft and other property crimes; sex
offenses; obstruction or resisting arrest; disorderly conduct; fraud; racketeering; and money
laundering;
• Criminal offenses relating to steroids and prohibited substances, or substances of abuse;
• Violent or threatening behavior among employees, whether in or outside the workplace;
• Possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting, including but not limited to
stadiums, team facilities, training camp, locker rooms, team planes, buses, parking lots, etc., or
unlawful possession of a weapon outside of the workplace;
• Conduct that imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person; and
• Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or
NFL players.
Is thre another kicker in camp?  
Rflairr : 8/17/2016 4:07 pm : link
Damn, I really think that Dallas game might come down to a FG too
RE: Is thre another kicker in camp?  
ryanmkeane : 8/17/2016 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13075036 Rflairr said:
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Damn, I really think that Dallas game might come down to a FG too

All the more reason to drop 50 on em.
RE: I'm going to be the asshole the lofts out a guess.  
nygiants16 : 8/17/2016 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13075024 LI NHB said:
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I got money on a DUI arrest that flew under the radar.


If it was a dui I don't think it would only be 1 game and I don't think he would of said he doesn't agree with the suspension..
RE: I wonder if this is why he was out earlier in training camp  
FranknWeezer : 8/17/2016 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13075032 Bold Ruler said:
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excused for a day.


Could also have been the reason NYG waited a bit to re-sign him. Seemed as if it should've been a formality, but wasn't with us til April 18th....and free agency started March 9th.
I've said this before.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/17/2016 4:09 pm : link
We kept the wrong kicker last year.
July 12th  
kelsto811 : 8/17/2016 4:09 pm : link
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My phone was stolen and who ever they are is sending out derogatory comments. Please disregard any text or social post. Sorry!


I'm digging deep here but could it have something to do with that?
RE: I wonder if this is why he was out earlier in training camp  
nygiants16 : 8/17/2016 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13075032 Bold Ruler said:
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excused for a day.


That is probably when his appeal meeting was
ugh  
kelsto811 : 8/17/2016 4:10 pm : link
that is a tweet from Josh Brown. Missed the header.
Shayne Graham  
Pete in MD : 8/17/2016 4:11 pm : link
and Josh Scobee are still out there if they are looking for a veteran. Others will shake loose after cut-downs I'm sure.
might be a lot of "doinks" in opening game  
micky : 8/17/2016 4:12 pm : link
oye
My guess would be  
ryanmkeane : 8/17/2016 4:12 pm : link
some type of banned substance.
RE: He must have done one of the following:  
FranknWeezer : 8/17/2016 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13075035 NYGmen58 said:
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• Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving:
• Conduct that imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person;



Nailed it. See link for video proof of Brown harming an individual.
Josh Brown inflicting pain on Preston Lacey - ( New Window )
If you were DUI...  
manh george : 8/17/2016 4:14 pm : link
and flew under the radar, that's impressive.
RE: My guess would be  
LI NHB : 8/17/2016 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13075055 ryanmkeane said:
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some type of banned substance.


The report said code of conduct policy. If it was a substance is would likely read substance abuse policy.

Money is still on DUI. Who wants action!?
Big Blue Blogger  
Klaatu : 8/17/2016 4:14 pm : link
Dismiss the St. Olaf Oles at your own peril!
Pretty amazing.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/17/2016 4:15 pm : link
If it's not an injury, it's something else with this team.
RE: My guess would be  
NYGmen58 : 8/17/2016 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13075055 ryanmkeane said:
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some type of banned substance.


If there is one thing it's clearly NOT, it's a banned substance. That does not fall under conduct.
RE: I'm going to be the asshole the lofts out a guess.  
mac attack : 8/17/2016 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13075024 LI NHB said:
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I got money on a DUI arrest that flew under the radar.


"Liquored up kicker"
RE: RE: My guess would be  
nygiants16 : 8/17/2016 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13075062 LI NHB said:
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In comment 13075055 ryanmkeane said:


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some type of banned substance.



The report said code of conduct policy. If it was a substance is would likely read substance abuse policy.

Money is still on DUI. Who wants action!?


I highly doubt dui
Also, LOLDeadspin.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/17/2016 4:18 pm : link
Always claiming the Giants are Roget Goodell's 'pet team.' Yet here we are with a ridiculous suspension.
RE: RE: My guess would be  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2016 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13075062 LI NHB said:
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In comment 13075055 ryanmkeane said:


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some type of banned substance.



The report said code of conduct policy. If it was a substance is would likely read substance abuse policy.

Money is still on DUI. Who wants action!?


Diehl didn't get suspended for DUI, why would Brown?

RE: Big Blue Blogger  
BMac : 8/17/2016 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13075063 Klaatu said:
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Dismiss the St. Olaf Oles at your own peril!


That's right. Just watch "The Long Grey Line" and see what little Notre Dame did to a powerful Army squad. Never bet against Mother Church!
RE: Big Blue Blogger  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/17/2016 4:20 pm : link
Klaatu said:
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Dismiss the St. Olaf Oles at your own peril!
True enough. Some of those farm boys are BIG. Funny thing: I looked at Concordia's schedule and they play Carleton. Carleton has a football team??? Ultimate frisbee, sure. Flag football, maybe. But actual tackle football, with helmets and stuff? How barbaric! (In case you haven't guessed, my wife went there.)
RE: I've said this before.  
rdt288 : 8/17/2016 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13075043 Big Blue Blogger said:
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We kept the wrong kicker last year.


Both excellent kickers You very well may have been right?
Season over  
spike : 8/17/2016 4:21 pm : link
We are going to lose by a FG to Dallas
Problem with signing a vet is  
Diver_Down : 8/17/2016 4:23 pm : link
the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.
RE: RE: RE: My guess would be  
LI NHB : 8/17/2016 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13075069 nygiants16 said:
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I highly doubt dui


Sheldon Richardson was driving 143 MPH in a high-speed chase with a guy with a semi-automatic handgun and a strong marijuana odor in the car and got 1 game.

It's also just a guess.
BMac: Wrong church, I think.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/17/2016 4:24 pm : link
BMac said:
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That's right. Just watch "The Long Grey Line" and see what little Notre Dame did to a powerful Army squad. Never bet against Mother Church!
Maybe they switched affiliations, but I don't think St. Olaf is a Catholic school.
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nygiants16 : 8/17/2016 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13075086 LI NHB said:
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In comment 13075069 nygiants16 said:


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I highly doubt dui



Sheldon Richardson was driving 143 MPH in a high-speed chase with a guy with a semi-automatic handgun and a strong marijuana odor in the car and got 1 game.

It's also just a guess.


But did you hear about the arrest and report?

no way a giants player gets. dui and no one hears about it...

also brown would not of come out and said I don't agree with the suspension if it was a dui...

RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
FranknWeezer : 8/17/2016 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13075084 Diver_Down said:
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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.


Strong. Nice call there.
RE: I've said this before.  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2016 4:26 pm : link
In comment 13075043 Big Blue Blogger said:
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We kept the wrong kicker last year.

Brown was better than Boswell last year. At FG's at least.

Wow buddy  
LI NHB : 8/17/2016 4:26 pm : link
you're about as fun to communicate with as a tube sock.
RE: Wow buddy  
nygiants16 : 8/17/2016 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13075096 LI NHB said:
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you're about as fun to communicate with as a tube sock.


You said did anybody want any action? I am taking that action and betting against you
RE: He must have done one of the following:  
shyster : 8/17/2016 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13075035 NYGmen58 said:
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• Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or
NFL players.


I'm going to guess it's this criterion that was applied and that it is connected to the (allegedly) stolen phone incident on July 12.

July 12th
kelsto811 : 4:09 pm : link : reply
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My phone was stolen and who ever they are is sending out derogatory comments. Please disregard any text or social post. Sorry!


RE: RE: Big Blue Blogger  
Pete in MD : 8/17/2016 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13075078 BMac said:
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In comment 13075063 Klaatu said:


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Dismiss the St. Olaf Oles at your own peril!



That's right. Just watch "The Long Grey Line" and see what little Notre Dame did to a powerful Army squad. Never bet against Mother Church!

Haha, that's a classic line from a pretty good older movie. My Dad still quotes it all of the time.
RE: RE: He must have done one of the following:  
kelsto811 : 8/17/2016 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13075098 shyster said:
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In comment 13075035 NYGmen58 said:


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• Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or
NFL players.



I'm going to guess it's this criterion that was applied and that it is connected to the (allegedly) stolen phone incident on July 12.

July 12th
kelsto811 : 4:09 pm : link : reply
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My phone was stolen and who ever they are is sending out derogatory comments. Please disregard any text or social post. Sorry!



We may be on to something here! If it really is something like that, Brown had all the right to fight it. Also, he loses 87 Grand for one game!

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#Giants K Josh Brown loses $72,058 in salary, will miss out on $15,625 game roster bonus. Total: $87,683 for his 1-game suspension.
RE:  
LI NHB : 8/17/2016 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13075097 nygiants16 said:
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You said did anybody want any action? I am taking that action and betting against you


Fair enough. You're on.
I need to know what he did  
DennyInDenville : 8/17/2016 4:32 pm : link
Roger Goodell damn you man
I think the Giants will be going for 2 points after a TD  
Marty in Albany : 8/17/2016 4:32 pm : link
on a more regular basis now.
RE: RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
Diver_Down : 8/17/2016 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13075093 FranknWeezer said:
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In comment 13075084 Diver_Down said:


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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.



Strong. Nice call there.


I just mentioned it as a consideration. I think the league minimum for a vested veteran is like $760,000. It's not my money, but I don't think Mara is cool with spending 3/4 of a million dollars for 1 game of kickoff, PATs, and field goal duty.
RE: BMac: Wrong church, I think.  
BMac : 8/17/2016 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13075089 Big Blue Blogger said:
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BMac said:

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That's right. Just watch "The Long Grey Line" and see what little Notre Dame did to a powerful Army squad. Never bet against Mother Church!

Maybe they switched affiliations, but I don't think St. Olaf is a Catholic school.


Beside the point (the hole, I mean).
RE: RE: Problem with signing a vet is...  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/17/2016 4:36 pm : link
FranknWeezer said:
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Diver_Down said:
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...the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.

Strong. Nice call there.

FWIW, the Eagles will have to cut a good young kicker, and neither of them is vested. They might try to trade the loser of the Parkey/Sturgis competition. If that doesn't pan out, the Giants might benefit from their favorable waiver-wire position, assuming Obarski hasn't earned the staff's confidence by then.
So he's already been through the appeals process and this is just  
Devon : 8/17/2016 4:42 pm : link
leaking out now?
say ain't so Joe.....say ain't so  
BCD : 8/17/2016 4:55 pm : link
sniff sniff...i mean Josh
We will miss you, Jeff Brown.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/17/2016 4:57 pm : link
We will miss you.
RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/17/2016 5:01 pm : link
In comment 13075084 Diver_Down said:
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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.


Who gives a shit about this? The team has 17 million in cap space.
hey Dave...  
BCD : 8/17/2016 5:08 pm : link
remember the Black Sox.....
Scout.com on Tom Obarski.  
Klaatu : 8/17/2016 5:10 pm : link
.....
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
FranknWeezer : 8/17/2016 5:10 pm : link
In comment 13075143 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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In comment 13075084 Diver_Down said:


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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.



Who gives a shit about this? The team has 17 million in cap space.


Lighten up, Francis. He makes a salient point. Whether or not it would deter the NYG's from signing a vet for one week of service isn't for us to decide. But this is a Giants message board, and we can sure as shit discuss it.
RE: Meet Tom Obarski.  
KeoweeFan : 8/17/2016 5:10 pm : link
In comment 13075031 Big Blue Blogger said:
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From Zierlein's draft profile of Obarski on nfl.com:


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ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Held down both kicking and punting duties all four years at Concordia. Showed strong accuracy from distance as a senior making 9 of 10 from 40-plus yards, including a 56-yarder. Kicked a 59-yard field goal as a sophomore and had longs of 56 in each of his next two seasons.
WEAKNESSES Power in his field goals doesn't translate to kickoffs, with a career touchback average of about 30 percent. Had a disastrous campaign as a junior kicker, missing all 7 kicks from 40-­49 yards.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 7 or priority free agent
BOTTOM LINE Former high school soccer standout with a quality leg from distance, knocking down 5 of 8 kicks during his career from 50-plus, including makes from 59, 56 and 56. While his lack of kickoff power hurts, he could be drafted on his deep accuracy and strong senior performance. Obarski also drilled a 49-yarder in the Senior Bowl game.


Not worried about his Junior slump. I mean, he'll face way less pressure against Dallas than he did at Concordia, against the likes of St. Olaf and Duluth Lutheran.


The new kickoff rules should help if it is true his accuracy is good and the concern is depth on KOs.
RE: RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
Diver_Down : 8/17/2016 5:10 pm : link
In comment 13075143 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.



Who gives a shit about this? The team has 17 million in cap space.


It's not a matter of needing cap space. It is about understanding nuances of the league something that you don't understand. Yesterday, you thought Cruz could be PUP'd when everyone knows he is ineligible as he has already practiced. You demonstrate time and again that you have no understanding of the league rules.
RE: RE: RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/17/2016 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13075161 Diver_Down said:
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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.



Who gives a shit about this? The team has 17 million in cap space.



It's not a matter of needing cap space. It is about understanding nuances of the league something that you don't understand. Yesterday, you thought Cruz could be PUP'd when everyone knows he is ineligible as he has already practiced. You demonstrate time and again that you have no understanding of the league rules.


Sue me, i confused the pup list with being put on IR with a designation to return. It was also earlier today. Should I suggest you have no conception of time because you made a mistake?

I did know that the contract would be guaranteed what I'm saying who gives a shit about a 1 million contract being on the books? Has no effect on the cap long term and with it being a divisional game that's money well spent. It's not our money.
has to be  
giantfan2000 : 8/17/2016 5:17 pm : link
deflating balls...
No problem. Reese needs to just track down Gus the mule  
Jimmy Googs : 8/17/2016 5:21 pm : link
I saw him kick a 100 yard FG when I was a kid...


Nope, GiantFan,  
CT Charlie : 8/17/2016 5:30 pm : link
inflating balls.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
glowrider : 8/17/2016 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13075173 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.



Who gives a shit about this? The team has 17 million in cap space.



It's not a matter of needing cap space. It is about understanding nuances of the league something that you don't understand. Yesterday, you thought Cruz could be PUP'd when everyone knows he is ineligible as he has already practiced. You demonstrate time and again that you have no understanding of the league rules.



Sue me, i confused the pup list with being put on IR with a designation to return. It was also earlier today. Should I suggest you have no conception of time because you made a mistake?

I did know that the contract would be guaranteed what I'm saying who gives a shit about a 1 million contract being on the books? Has no effect on the cap long term and with it being a divisional game that's money well spent. It's not our money.


If Brown is losing $80k for the game, do you think paying $750,000 for a single game replacement is irrelevant? We will need that money for other things this season; don't worry, it will get spent. But over a healthy kicker that got himself suspended for one reason or another? Mara is probably fuming. By salary, he's the teams MVP in production!
RE: Also, LOLDeadspin.  
mrvax : 8/17/2016 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13075071 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Always claiming the Giants are Roget Goodell's 'pet team.' Yet here we are with a ridiculous suspension.


Tell the assholes at Deadspin to watch both Giants vs. Green Bay 2011.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/17/2016 5:52 pm : link
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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.



Who gives a shit about this? The team has 17 million in cap space.



It's not a matter of needing cap space. It is about understanding nuances of the league something that you don't understand. Yesterday, you thought Cruz could be PUP'd when everyone knows he is ineligible as he has already practiced. You demonstrate time and again that you have no understanding of the league rules.



Sue me, i confused the pup list with being put on IR with a designation to return. It was also earlier today. Should I suggest you have no conception of time because you made a mistake?

I did know that the contract would be guaranteed what I'm saying who gives a shit about a 1 million contract being on the books? Has no effect on the cap long term and with it being a divisional game that's money well spent. It's not our money.



If Brown is losing $80k for the game, do you think paying $750,000 for a single game replacement is irrelevant? We will need that money for other things this season; don't worry, it will get spent. But over a healthy kicker that got himself suspended for one reason or another? Mara is probably fuming. By salary, he's the teams MVP in production!


There is no way the Giatns are going to use up all 17 million this season.
I know this motherfucker misses one kick a year.....  
Dry Lightning : 8/17/2016 6:23 pm : link
But it always seems like it is a pressure kick that hurts us. If Obarski comes through in the Dallas game and really proved himself, I would cut Brown's ass. By the way, I guarantee you that whatever this dumb fuck did it will come out, and it will embarrass this team.
The Giants should try to appeal it  
steve in ky : 8/17/2016 6:30 pm : link
And hope he is eligible for Dallas until the appeal is heard and then out for the Saints the next week.
RE: RE: Is thre another kicker in camp?  
EJV79 : 8/17/2016 6:32 pm : link
In comment 13075039 ryanmkeane said:
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Damn, I really think that Dallas game might come down to a FG too


All the more reason to drop 50 on em.


I really hope this giants team has turned the corner and is a hell of alot better than the past few years where they've gotten into these last second FG nail biting pain in the ass games. We should be 10x better than dallas this year, blow them the fuck out.
Hope new guy  
joeinpa : 8/17/2016 6:38 pm : link
Beats him out.
Go Figure......  
Bluesbreaker : 8/17/2016 7:45 pm : link
are things going to well ...
How are we with No Cruz ????
Good Enough As long as his replacement can Kick extra
points .. Our Specials should be very good .....
I'm thinking...  
Ryan : 8/17/2016 8:08 pm : link
.stolen phone = dick pic to someone he shouldn't have. His appeal to come to 345 Park Ave to whip it out and prove his innocence was declined?
You fuckin guys are funny  
B in ALB : 8/17/2016 8:27 pm : link
"I hope he gets beat out".

"Bring in whoeverthefuck, anyone can kick".

"He misses one kick a year BUT it's always a BIG kick".

And my favorite.

"Let Odell kick!"


Holy asshairs. If whatever this is didn't allegedly happen, you jackasses wouldn't have anything stupid to post. Refuckinglax.

Dick Pic to Goodell's wife?  
sober297 : 8/17/2016 8:28 pm : link
or to Commish, himself?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Problem with signing a vet is  
SJGiant : 8/17/2016 8:33 pm : link
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the salary is guaranteed for the year. Only if a vet is signed after week 1, is the salary week-to-week.



Who gives a shit about this? The team has 17 million in cap space.



It's not a matter of needing cap space. It is about understanding nuances of the league something that you don't understand. Yesterday, you thought Cruz could be PUP'd when everyone knows he is ineligible as he has already practiced. You demonstrate time and again that you have no understanding of the league rules.



Sue me, i confused the pup list with being put on IR with a designation to return. It was also earlier today. Should I suggest you have no conception of time because you made a mistake?

I did know that the contract would be guaranteed what I'm saying who gives a shit about a 1 million contract being on the books? Has no effect on the cap long term and with it being a divisional game that's money well spent. It's not our money.



If Brown is losing $80k for the game, do you think paying $750,000 for a single game replacement is irrelevant? We will need that money for other things this season; don't worry, it will get spent. But over a healthy kicker that got himself suspended for one reason or another? Mara is probably fuming. By salary, he's the teams MVP in production!



There is no way the Giatns are going to use up all 17 million this season.



You do realize that unused cap space can be rolled over into next years pool of money to be spent on resigning your own players as well as free agents
It was fourth degree domestic violence  
Larry in Pencilvania : 8/17/2016 8:49 pm : link
Per James Kratch.
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Go Terps : 8/17/2016 9:01 pm : link
In an absolute pinch (kicker is injured in-game), I'd actually feel ok about letting Beckham act as kicker. Inside 40 yards I'd bet he's pretty good.

Losing Brown for the opener is a pretty big deal. Special teams are often a factor in the early weeks as teams are still gelling and finding out who their best backups are. This kind of sucks.
RE: The Giants should try to appeal it  
Devon : 8/17/2016 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13075251 steve in ky said:
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And hope he is eligible for Dallas until the appeal is heard and then out for the Saints the next week.

According to his statement, he's already exhausted all his appeal options (which makes sense, given that the incident happened in spring 2015).

If this happened on another team with better local reporters, it probably would have been broken a lot earlier, but that's not the Giants' lot in coverage.
I think the Giants should sign the biggest available leg  
Mr. Bungle : 8/17/2016 9:24 pm : link
so that kickoffs are handled. As for field goals, play an aggressive attack offense against that vulnerable Cowboys defense and score touchdowns early.

I know that's easier said than done, but I think kickoffs are going to be more important against the Cowboys than field goals. Don't play a ball-control style, though. Think big against that depleted front 7.
So.  
arcarsenal : 8/17/2016 9:29 pm : link
A red wrist and a small cut from a fingernail. Oy..

I don't condone domestic violence on any level and he never should have grabbed her at all but this whole thing just sounds silly.
RE: So.  
B in ALB : 8/17/2016 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13075375 arcarsenal said:
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A red wrist and a small cut from a fingernail. Oy..

I don't condone domestic violence on any level and he never should have grabbed her at all but this whole thing just sounds silly.


Who says he grabbed "her?"

RE: RE: So.  
arcarsenal : 8/17/2016 9:54 pm : link
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A red wrist and a small cut from a fingernail. Oy..

I don't condone domestic violence on any level and he never should have grabbed her at all but this whole thing just sounds silly.



Who says he grabbed "her?"


The police report.

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According to the police report, Brown and the victim "quarrelled (sic)." Brown grabbed the victim's wrist while the victim was picking up a phone, according to police.

The victim then called 911, according to the police report, and alleged an assault. The report states the victim had "redness" on the wrist, "and a small cut, possibly from a fingernail."


Is it true? I don't know.
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B in ALB : 8/17/2016 9:55 pm : link
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A red wrist and a small cut from a fingernail. Oy..

I don't condone domestic violence on any level and he never should have grabbed her at all but this whole thing just sounds silly.



Who says he grabbed "her?"




The police report.



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According to the police report, Brown and the victim "quarrelled (sic)." Brown grabbed the victim's wrist while the victim was picking up a phone, according to police.

The victim then called 911, according to the police report, and alleged an assault. The report states the victim had "redness" on the wrist, "and a small cut, possibly from a fingernail."



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Yeah, but arc. It doesn't actually say he grabbed his wife. It totally skirts around that for some reason. Read it again man.
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arcarsenal : 8/17/2016 9:58 pm : link
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A red wrist and a small cut from a fingernail. Oy..

I don't condone domestic violence on any level and he never should have grabbed her at all but this whole thing just sounds silly.



Who says he grabbed "her?"




The police report.



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According to the police report, Brown and the victim "quarrelled (sic)." Brown grabbed the victim's wrist while the victim was picking up a phone, according to police.

The victim then called 911, according to the police report, and alleged an assault. The report states the victim had "redness" on the wrist, "and a small cut, possibly from a fingernail."



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Yeah, but arc. It doesn't actually say he grabbed his wife. It totally skirts around that for some reason. Read it again man.


Does it not say "Brown grabbed the victims wrist"?

The quote from the article says exactly that.
Yes arc  
B in ALB : 8/17/2016 10:07 pm : link
but the article doesn't specifically list Brown's wife as the "victim".

I had to read it like five times to see the bullshit nuance.
Who is it referring to, then?  
arcarsenal : 8/17/2016 10:12 pm : link
It says he was arrested at their residence where she lives with him.
Maybe some attention whore money whore trying to get a payday  
DennyInDenville : 8/17/2016 10:13 pm : link
From a wrist grab?

Can't imagine anyone's wife calling the police for something like that..
RE: Who is it referring to, then?  
B in ALB : 8/17/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13075430 arcarsenal said:
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It says he was arrested at their residence where she lives with him.


He could be referring to Santa Claus - whoever was in the house with them. The connection that the wife is the "victim" is never made. It's a really bad article by Kratch.
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arcarsenal : 8/17/2016 10:17 pm : link
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It says he was arrested at their residence where she lives with him.



He could be referring to Santa Claus - whoever was in the house with them. The connection that the wife is the "victim" is never made. It's a really bad article by Kratch.


I don't think it's considered a "domestic violence" charge, which this is.. if the person involved is not a resident or family member living in the same home.

If some random person just happened to be there and get into a scuffle with Brown, I don't think it would still be labeled as such.

I agree it's shitty reporting without many actual facts or evidence but it's not too difficult to connect the dots and conclude that whatever happened was between he and his wife.
B in Alabama  
joeinpa : 8/18/2016 7:44 am : link
I don t like Brown as the kicker, you disagree, and that makes me silly?

Ok, got it. By the way, was I silly in 07 when I disagreed with many of the posters here about the status of coach Coughlin and wanted to keep him.

As I recall several were just like you. Unable to handle any opinion that differed from theirs without being childish.

I don t like Brown as the kicker. Don t trust him in big spots, another Jay Feeley.
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arcarsenal : 8/18/2016 9:02 am : link
How many "big" kicks has he even missed? He clanked it against the Jets in OT last year.. I can't really think of any other notable kicks he's missed.
RE: Maybe some attention whore money whore trying to get a payday  
section125 : 8/18/2016 9:19 am : link
In comment 13075431 DennyInDenville said:
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From a wrist grab?

Can't imagine anyone's wife calling the police for something like that..


It is a one game suspension. One game. So whatever happened he is getting the least possible penalty. Whatever it was wasn't much of anything.
Question is, if the charge was dropped, why was he suspended. People make allegations about things all the time.
Brown is public enemy #1  
Giants2012 : 8/18/2016 9:32 am : link
if the Giants lose to Dallas b/c of a kicker and could be out the door f his replacement hits a game winner.

Many kickers are like baseball closers walking that fine line between quiet confidence and loud ridicule.

RE: RE: Maybe some attention whore money whore trying to get a payday  
jpennyva : 8/18/2016 9:35 am : link
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From a wrist grab?

Can't imagine anyone's wife calling the police for something like that..



It is a one game suspension. One game. So whatever happened he is getting the least possible penalty. Whatever it was wasn't much of anything.
Question is, if the charge was dropped, why was he suspended. People make allegations about things all the time.


Exactly. And they could have fined him instead, right? Or does this kind of "violation" call specifically for a suspension (I legitimately don't know). The application of penalties (suspensions, fines, etc.) just seems so inconsistent. If the charges were dropped, I don't think there should have been any repercussions. It seems like there is more to the story. And it is interesting that this happened last year and is only coming out now.
RE: Also, LOLDeadspin.  
NINEster : 8/18/2016 9:54 am : link
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Always claiming the Giants are Roget Goodell's 'pet team.' Yet here we are with a ridiculous suspension.


Both can be simultaneously true. :)

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