as to the timeline for the finale. Didn't the trial basically just start? Seems odd that this whole ordeal would be finished in the last episode.
the state already rested their case and the defense is calling witnesses. it's been rushed, but I think they're hitting the important points. It's also maybe an hour and 45 minute finale.
at least they blocked an hour and 45 minutes on the TV guide schedule but we all know that means maybe an hour and a half (or less).
regardless that should be enough time, when you consider they can do an entire movie in two hours.
I just sense that Naz is going to die in prison before the verdict comes. This series is as much about the criminal justice system as it is in telling a story.
As far as Box is concerned , I think he was a really solid Detective who was counting the days to retirement and Felt he had an overwhelming amount of evidence and seemed to mail it in.
I just sense that Naz is going to die in prison before the verdict comes. This series is as much about the criminal justice system as it is in telling a story.
As far as Box is concerned , I think he was a really solid Detective who was counting the days to retirement and Felt he had an overwhelming amount of evidence and seemed to mail it in.
but you know he had doubts about Naz being guilty. and he did nothing. That was what I meant and sure there was evidence, but there was also a lot of holes that were easily discovered that he wanted nothing to do with.
I remember a splatter of blood hitting it, without really seeing whose, they keep flashing to it but time seems to be running out.
In the beginning I thought it was a camera in the deer head, but after they showed the blood drop trickle down like a tear drop I felt like it was just symbolism.
I really don't understand the point of some of the side stories, especially regarding Stone.
I thought the wretched feet thing was going to actually mean something at some point. Doesn't really look like that now. So we watched him pick at foot scabs with chopsticks for nothing?
What has been the purpose of the ex-wife and son? I thought the son liked him. Now all of a sudden he doesn't? And Stone spoke in front of Gooden's class, so his friends saw him. But then Gooden tells his friends, "I have no clue who that guy is"? I just don't follow what's going on there (and that's beside the fact of the obvious racial discrepancy).
The cat was a nice symbol of Naz at first, but they've gone back to it a little too much, in my opinion.
I don't have a sense for how much time has passed in the story. It feels like it's only been a few short months in time, even though it's likely been much longer, as high-profile murder trials often are. But have we seen the seasons change in New York? If it has been only a short time, Naz's character has changed too much in that short time, for me. If it's been a long time, how can we tell?
Where did Naz's brother go?
I'm no expert on the prison system, but are there really convicts who get away with as much as Freddy openly does? His cell is basically an open tattoo parlor, drug den, credit union, etc., with COs escorting convicts up there for private consultations. And the visiting room surveillance is really bad, since apparently you can routinely exchange contraband from twat to hand whenever you want. Does all this really happen in American prisons? I know Rikers has a terrible reputation, but it still seems like a dramatic stretch.
Why would a seasoned prosecutor like Weiss think she had an angle on that forensic pathologist based on some ass-kissing remark he made in a speech to honor that doctor? Very weak line of attack.
Why in the world would Chandra lean in and kiss Naz? Just catastrophically stupid for a character we've been led to believe was competent and focused. Just came from out of nowhere. Felt like a romantic conflict shoehorned in there for a few seconds. Even if it ends up affecting the case, it would be a pretty implausible way to wrap this story up.
I didn't like Box's line in the beginning about "Where are all the news cameras now?" regarding the black female victim. It was a preachy line, and why would a 33-year veteran detective even say that? Professionally, he's way, way past wondering things like that. It reminded me of the pandering moment earlier in the series when Naz's father wondered out loud, "What do they mean, 'organizations'?" The guy is a Pakistani immigrant living in NYC after 9/11. He knows damned well what they meant. He's Pakistani, not an idiot.
I'm ok with it ending next week. I wouldn't stick with it if it went on to multiple seasons. But I do want to see how they wrap it all up.
The feet will definitely come back, but I don't know how it will impact the story. Stone is going to relapse, otherwise why else would they show it over and over again?
And we never find out who did it. Wow that would suck.
I think that's the way it'll go or he'll get convicted, then remember something that could exonerate him, and get killed in prison before he can tell anyone.
I think the ending will be shitty for him and possibly for the viewer.
Is to show that you have to keep turning over stones, no matter how unconventional until you get your answer. Most of the viewers probably thought the Eastern medicine in that rundown storefront was junk science and a quack doctor, but it was because Stone kept searching for an answer that he was able to get a cure. I would assume in some way that is analogous to his investigation into Naz and how the unlikeliest of leads might turn into something that changes the dynamics of the case. For me, it's the cat and the inhaler, it is like right under Stone's nose, he was wheezing and allergic to cat, so the cat outside, saw the inhaler in the photo, but cannot put the pieces of that odd puzzle together that it was why the cat was outside and how someone got access to her apt.
I would say that as entertainment, I enjoy the show, but the courtroom scenes are just plain awful. These soliloquies with the witnesses are dumb and unrealistic and the makeout session with the lawyer was dumb, it came out of left field and really serves no purpose.
But this hasn't been HBO pantheon caliber unless the finale is something else. I absolutely love the ridiculous amount of "misdirection" because you don't know what's legitimately important. But so much needs to be resolved in one episode. Ep 1 was amazing, if epLast is the same way then we have a show that belongs in that shortlist. If not, it's just a really interesting show I killed time with.
I just sense that Naz is going to die in prison before the verdict comes. This series is as much about the criminal justice system as it is in telling a story.
I 100% agree that he dies. I think they solve the crime and find him innocent but he dies before released.
Was it realistic?
If you have hbo now, hbo go, or amazon prime you can watch it.
the state already rested their case and the defense is calling witnesses. it's been rushed, but I think they're hitting the important points. It's also maybe an hour and 45 minute finale.
at least they blocked an hour and 45 minutes on the TV guide schedule but we all know that means maybe an hour and a half (or less).
regardless that should be enough time, when you consider they can do an entire movie in two hours.
As far as Box is concerned , I think he was a really solid Detective who was counting the days to retirement and Felt he had an overwhelming amount of evidence and seemed to mail it in.
As far as Box is concerned , I think he was a really solid Detective who was counting the days to retirement and Felt he had an overwhelming amount of evidence and seemed to mail it in.
but you know he had doubts about Naz being guilty. and he did nothing. That was what I meant and sure there was evidence, but there was also a lot of holes that were easily discovered that he wanted nothing to do with.
In the beginning I thought it was a camera in the deer head, but after they showed the blood drop trickle down like a tear drop I felt like it was just symbolism.
I thought the wretched feet thing was going to actually mean something at some point. Doesn't really look like that now. So we watched him pick at foot scabs with chopsticks for nothing?
What has been the purpose of the ex-wife and son? I thought the son liked him. Now all of a sudden he doesn't? And Stone spoke in front of Gooden's class, so his friends saw him. But then Gooden tells his friends, "I have no clue who that guy is"? I just don't follow what's going on there (and that's beside the fact of the obvious racial discrepancy).
The cat was a nice symbol of Naz at first, but they've gone back to it a little too much, in my opinion.
I don't have a sense for how much time has passed in the story. It feels like it's only been a few short months in time, even though it's likely been much longer, as high-profile murder trials often are. But have we seen the seasons change in New York? If it has been only a short time, Naz's character has changed too much in that short time, for me. If it's been a long time, how can we tell?
Where did Naz's brother go?
I'm no expert on the prison system, but are there really convicts who get away with as much as Freddy openly does? His cell is basically an open tattoo parlor, drug den, credit union, etc., with COs escorting convicts up there for private consultations. And the visiting room surveillance is really bad, since apparently you can routinely exchange contraband from twat to hand whenever you want. Does all this really happen in American prisons? I know Rikers has a terrible reputation, but it still seems like a dramatic stretch.
Why would a seasoned prosecutor like Weiss think she had an angle on that forensic pathologist based on some ass-kissing remark he made in a speech to honor that doctor? Very weak line of attack.
Why in the world would Chandra lean in and kiss Naz? Just catastrophically stupid for a character we've been led to believe was competent and focused. Just came from out of nowhere. Felt like a romantic conflict shoehorned in there for a few seconds. Even if it ends up affecting the case, it would be a pretty implausible way to wrap this story up.
I didn't like Box's line in the beginning about "Where are all the news cameras now?" regarding the black female victim. It was a preachy line, and why would a 33-year veteran detective even say that? Professionally, he's way, way past wondering things like that. It reminded me of the pandering moment earlier in the series when Naz's father wondered out loud, "What do they mean, 'organizations'?" The guy is a Pakistani immigrant living in NYC after 9/11. He knows damned well what they meant. He's Pakistani, not an idiot.
I'm ok with it ending next week. I wouldn't stick with it if it went on to multiple seasons. But I do want to see how they wrap it all up.
I think that's the way it'll go or he'll get convicted, then remember something that could exonerate him, and get killed in prison before he can tell anyone.
I think the ending will be shitty for him and possibly for the viewer.
I would say that as entertainment, I enjoy the show, but the courtroom scenes are just plain awful. These soliloquies with the witnesses are dumb and unrealistic and the makeout session with the lawyer was dumb, it came out of left field and really serves no purpose.
I 100% agree that he dies. I think they solve the crime and find him innocent but he dies before released.