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Greg Milhouse. Any shot?

Beezer : 8/22/2016 9:46 am
Maybe I just get off on the John Mendenhall comparison. Dude's wearing 64, he's relatively small-ish for an interior D-lineman, but while I realize he's working these games against second/third guys, he's very active and seems to live up to his billing potential.

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Milhouse has cat-like quickness for his size and uses his initial momentum to drive interior blockers backwards towards the quarterback. He needs to develop his hand technique and ball awareness, but his skill-set is draftable -- faces a steep learning curve, but can provide quality depth to a three-technique rotation in a four-man front.


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Beyond Harrison, Hankins and Bromley there is room for one or perhaps two defensive tackles at the bottom of the roster. Milhouse is in a group of players including Montori Hughes, Louis Nix and Marvin Lewis competing for a spot. His advantage in that competition is that Hughes, Nix and Lewis are all nose tackle types, while the 6-foot-1, 295-pound Milhouse is more of a pass rusher.


So far, I'm encouraged.

From what you all have observed, you think he can make the final cut?
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I agree with  
Rocky369 : 8/22/2016 9:56 am : link
the bolded part.
I think he'll be safe on the practice squad  
Milton : 8/22/2016 10:03 am : link
No need to spend one of the 53 roster spots on him. It's not like they're gonna have more than three DT's active on game day, anyway, so if you can safely tuck him on the practice squad, that's the smart move.

Personally, I think they should only carry Harrison, Hankins, and Bromley on the 53 and keep another DT or two on the practice squad. That will allow them the room to keep 5 DE on the 53, which makes the most sense given the 4 Aces package they play on passing downs.
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AcidTest : 8/22/2016 10:06 am : link
think he makes the 53. Also Okwara.

DT: Harrison, Hankins, Bromley, Milhouse.
DE: JPP, Vernon, OO, Okwara.

Wynn, Nix, and Hughes fight for one spot.
If he's competing with Marvin Lewis? No chance.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/22/2016 10:33 am : link
That guy will NEVER get fired.

Melvin Lewis is a different story.
Giants are keeping no more than 4 DTs on the active Roster  
ZogZerg : 8/22/2016 11:22 am : link
He is fighting the 4th spot. Most likely a practice squad guy if he keeps improving.
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Simms11 : 8/22/2016 11:49 am : link
In comment 13081040 AcidTest said:
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think he makes the 53. Also Okwara.

DT: Harrison, Hankins, Bromley, Milhouse.
DE: JPP, Vernon, OO, Okwara.

Wynn, Nix, and Hughes fight for one spot.


I like the look of that Dline a lot, but a guy like Milhouse will probably be inactive most game days, barring unforeseen injuries. I think he might be a good PS candidate, as well. I also do think there will be a need for at least a 4 man-DT rotation earlier in the season due to it being warmer as we need to have those guys fresh for the 4th Quarter of games and so I can most definitely see them keeping 5 DTs.
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Milton : 8/22/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13081244 Simms11 said:
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I also do think there will be a need for at least a 4 man-DT rotation earlier in the season due to it being warmer as we need to have those guys fresh for the 4th Quarter of games and so I can most definitely see them keeping 5 DTs.
When was the last time the Giants had 4 DT active on game day? Ideally they keep 8 DL (5 DE, 3 DT), 7 LB, and 10 DB on the 53 man roster.
Five DTs would be a waste.  
Klaatu : 8/22/2016 12:05 pm : link
The Giants usually activate only three on game days, anyway, and they'll often rotate their DEs inside, too, on obvious pass-rushing downs.
DT Greg Millhouse has some good pub  
SGMen : 8/22/2016 12:13 pm : link
But he looks PS to me.
RE: Five DTs would be a waste.  
Simms11 : 8/22/2016 12:21 pm : link
In comment 13081287 Klaatu said:
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The Giants usually activate only three on game days, anyway, and they'll often rotate their DEs inside, too, on obvious pass-rushing downs.


5 DTs, with one on the PS is what I meant.
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Simms11 : 8/22/2016 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13081280 Milton said:
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In comment 13081244 Simms11 said:


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I also do think there will be a need for at least a 4 man-DT rotation earlier in the season due to it being warmer as we need to have those guys fresh for the 4th Quarter of games and so I can most definitely see them keeping 5 DTs.

When was the last time the Giants had 4 DT active on game day? Ideally they keep 8 DL (5 DE, 3 DT), 7 LB, and 10 DB on the 53 man roster.


At a minimum, they need 4 DTs on the active roster. I don't think they can go with only 3. The DTs will be worn out by the 4th Quarter early in the season. Hank and Snacks are good, but they too will need relief and I don't mean the NASCAR package.
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Milton : 8/22/2016 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13081334 Simms11 said:
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At a minimum, they need 4 DTs on the active roster. I don't think they can go with only 3. The DTs will be worn out by the 4th Quarter early in the season. Hank and Snacks are good, but they too will need relief and I don't mean the NASCAR package.
I know, you mean the 4 Aces. That and Bromley will give them plenty of rest. And they don't play much special teams if any at all. Like I said, when was the last time the Giants had four DT active on game day?
p.s.-- Feel free to call my bluff: I'm just assuming the Giants rarely (if ever) had four DT active on game day. It's not like I've ever kept track of something like that.
Have they EVER carried just 3 DTs?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/22/2016 1:05 pm : link
Given the lack of depth at DT, I'm sure there's a spot for him.
RE: RE: Five DTs would be a waste.  
Klaatu : 8/22/2016 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13081327 Simms11 said:
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In comment 13081287 Klaatu said:


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The Giants usually activate only three on game days, anyway, and they'll often rotate their DEs inside, too, on obvious pass-rushing downs.



5 DTs, with one on the PS is what I meant.


4 DTs with one on the PS I can believe.
How many DTs TC kept possibly  
Big Blue '56 : 8/22/2016 1:23 pm : link
has little to no bearing on how many McAdoo wants to keep, whether Spags was here or not..

I personally have no idea where McAdoo goes with this
You'd imagine an offensive-minded head coach acts on the advice  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/22/2016 1:37 pm : link
of his DC, who we already know enjoys rotating his DL often.
RE: You'd imagine an offensive-minded head coach acts on the advice  
Big Blue '56 : 8/22/2016 1:45 pm : link
In comment 13081501 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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of his DC, who we already know enjoys rotating his DL often.


True, so I would assume 4 DTs on active roster?
Roster decisions on defense...  
Milton : 8/22/2016 3:24 pm : link
...will include Reese, McAdoo, and Spags. All three will have opinions, it just comes down to how strongly they feel about the player and the roster spot. I just don't think you need more than two nose-tackle types on game day and considering all the DE's capable of rotating in on passing downs, do they really need another 3-Technique type other than Bromley. They can store Milhouse and/or another young DT on the practice squad, ready to be activated if there is an injury during the week.

I might feel differently if they had a young, highly regarded prospect like when Joseph and Hankins were rookies occupying a roster spot, but not dressing. But I don't think any of the current young DT prospects are in danger of being snatched off the practice squad.

It's not enough just to look at the past, you have to look inside it as well. Why this, why that? When I look at this roster, I don't see a reason to keep more than the three DT's. I'll probably be wrong about that, but we'll see.
I don't like that  
Sy'56 : 8/22/2016 3:44 pm : link
Bromley is considered a definite for the roster. I think Harrison/Hankins are the definites and the next two spots need to be won.

I like Hughes and his ability to not get moved...a very poor man version of Harrison which is good for backing up that spot. Milhouse has shown well, albeit against lesser competition. I just think he offers some things in there that others don't. Whether he is on the 53 or PS...I want this guy to stick around. I think he has talent worth waiting for at least this season.
I like what Sy says  
ColHowPepper : 8/22/2016 4:14 pm : link
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Nix, Hughes, and Cudjo are journeymen...  
Milton : 8/22/2016 4:38 pm : link
And Milhouse and/or Coleman are no threat to be snatched from the practice squad. They're all easily replaceable if need be. I'd rather keep Whitlock who can play FB, 3-technique, and specials. Who do you think would contribute more on game day, Whitlock or Nix? Having a 4th DT on this particular 53 man roster only makes sense if Harrison, Hankins, or Bromley are hurting. I might feel differently if there was another DT on the roster that was more than JAG. But we're talking about journeymen and undrafted free agents behind the big three.
I think Millhouse  
DavidinBMNY : 8/22/2016 8:04 pm : link
Is in the plans, but It might be PS. I really think he's battling Bromley. How many smaller DT's do you keep on the active Roster vs. larger run stuffers.

I really like what I am seeing from Okwara. He is pushing Randy Wynn hard and what's more I like his versatility a lot. I think Okwara has a good shot to make the 53.

I think I'd prefer Millhouse on PS and keep a bigger guy like Hughes. I thought Hughes was ok last year. He seems the definition of a rotational run plugging DT.

Millhouse needs to show more against higher quality competition and if he earns a lot more snaps in week 3, that's a good sign for him.
Milhouse  
GoBigBlue199056 : 8/22/2016 9:58 pm : link
I feel the Giants are trying to hide Milhouse from teams that could potentially claim him onto the practice squad. Even when he gets in for just a few snaps he always makes the most out of them. If the plan is to "hide" him and sneak him onto the PS I think it's getting harder with every performance he has.. Do remember, out of collegel he was a high priority FA on many teams radars projected 5th round even.
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