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NFT: Is Gary Sanchez Human?

OBJ_AllDay : 8/22/2016 11:40 pm
This guy is the turning into the yankees version of Odell Beckham. Insane what he is doing right now.
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Danny Kanell : 8/22/2016 11:42 pm : link
Unbelievable!
Starlin Castro just hit his 2nd HR tonight as well!!  
GiantJake : 8/22/2016 11:43 pm : link
Baby Bombers!!
Especially when  
8TimeChamps : 8/22/2016 11:45 pm : link
you consider his prowess behind the plate as well. McCann said he's never seen another young catcher with his type of abilities!
Gary Sanchez  
Mr. Bungle : 8/22/2016 11:50 pm : link
is insane.
He's locked in  
RAIN : 8/22/2016 11:51 pm : link
big time. His pitch recognition right now is special. He's laying off anything out of the strike zone. HIs power is effortless.
And I'm missing 90% of it.  
BlueHurricane : 8/22/2016 11:57 pm : link
Fuck you Comcast.
Jesus Montero  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/23/2016 2:44 am : link
Needs to be said

But still, if he can be a legit 25hr guy holy shit
RE: Jesus Montero  
LS : 8/23/2016 7:33 am : link
In comment 13082416 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Needs to be said

But still, if he can be a legit 25hr guy holy shit

Hell, he's on pace for 25 plus homers this year!
The power is def there  
superspynyg : 8/23/2016 8:34 am : link
I just hope that they don't figure out some flaw in the offseason. I would love for him to be as good ad Lucroy as a hitter.
he's thrown out 5 of 7 SB attempts, too  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 8:47 am : link
Just an excellent all-around young player.
he's the man. if they had even decent starting pitching  
Victor in CT : 8/23/2016 8:49 am : link
they could make a run
when it hits the wall 1 for 19....  
BCD : 8/23/2016 10:40 am : link
what a fucking bum!!!!
he's hit 8 HRs in 17 games, which translates into 75-80  
Del Shofner : 8/23/2016 10:53 am : link
over 162 games. His OPS is a shade under 1.3.
he's still not quite on Shane Spencer's level  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 11:03 am : link
Sanchez 2016: 17G, 65 AB, .385/.425/.831, 8 HR, 5 2B, 225 OPS+
Spencer 1998: 27 G, 67 AB, .373/.411/.910, 10 HR, 6 2B, 236 OPS+

And while he was a veteran rather than a rookie, Glenallen Hill in 2000 had an amazing hot streak: 40 G, 132 AB, .333/.378/.735, 16 HR, 5 2B, 175 OPS+.
Have not seen any obvious  
section125 : 8/23/2016 11:10 am : link
holes in Sanchez's swing, but I know there is likely something. The 12 to 6 curve seemed to give him pause, but why swing at that pitch?
Sanchez is ungodly!  
Bramton1 : 8/23/2016 11:10 am : link
The next Kevin Maas (hopefully not, but let's temper our expectations for the moment).
Sanchez  
Phil in LA : 8/23/2016 11:33 am : link
Is really short to the ball, so he can wait a bit or go find it away. He also lets his top hand go, which is what Charlie Lau used to teach. I think Walt Hriniak taught it, too.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 8/23/2016 11:34 am : link
in a keeper league (fantasy) so I tried spinning Sanchez (pre callup) in a deal for Bregman to a Yankee fan and he wrote a message on the website basically saying my offer was idiotic... who is the idiot now! woooooooo lol
RE: Sanchez  
section125 : 8/23/2016 11:37 am : link
In comment 13082904 Phil in LA said:
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Is really short to the ball, so he can wait a bit or go find it away. He also lets his top hand go, which is what Charlie Lau used to teach. I think Walt Hriniak taught it, too.


With that big body, it would be hard to keep two hands on the bat through the swing and maintain balance on the follow through...
RE: RE: Sanchez  
DanMetroMan : 8/23/2016 11:45 am : link
In comment 13082925 section125 said:
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Is really short to the ball, so he can wait a bit or go find it away. He also lets his top hand go, which is what Charlie Lau used to teach. I think Walt Hriniak taught it, too.



With that big body, it would be hard to keep two hands on the bat through the swing and maintain balance on the follow through...


Piazza, Ortiz and Mo Vaughn all keep/kept both hands on the bath throughout and all are/were huge dudes.
Mike  
DanMetroMan : 8/23/2016 11:46 am : link
Napoli does as well (another big guy).
Yes, that was a Charlie Lau innovation  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 11:50 am : link
Although he didn't teach it exclusively. I had Charlie Lau's hitting video when I was a kid, and I did end up with the one-hand follow through because I have short arms and it helped me get better extension on my swing.

Hriniak was Lau's protégé.
RE: RE: RE: Sanchez  
section125 : 8/23/2016 11:53 am : link
In comment 13082945 DanMetroMan said:
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Is really short to the ball, so he can wait a bit or go find it away. He also lets his top hand go, which is what Charlie Lau used to teach. I think Walt Hriniak taught it, too.



With that big body, it would be hard to keep two hands on the bat through the swing and maintain balance on the follow through...



Piazza, Ortiz and Mo Vaughn all keep/kept both hands on the bath throughout and all are/were huge dudes.


Piazza is a lot leaner than Sanchez. Mo Vaughn - I can't remember his swing. I think Ortiz has a much shorter swing and I picture him letting go ( I might be wrong).
Joel Sherman in NYP on keeping both McCann and Sanchez next year:  
Del Shofner : 8/23/2016 11:54 am : link
Would Atlanta blink in the offseason and take on more of the contract and trade from among the sport’s deepest base of young pitchers? Or would another team do something similar? Because if not, well, here is Cashman:

“They [McCann and Sanchez] are our best two catchers by far, and our best team has both on the field. I would venture to guess that Sanchez-McCann would be the top catcher tandem in the game. McCann has struggled in the second half, but he was a borderline All-Star this year. So as far as I am concerned, he has a lot of value to us, let alone anyone else.”

Maybe that is posturing, but I don’t think so. Cashman said the playing time is skewed now because Sanchez is hot. The 23-year-old has the AL’s second-best OPS in August (minimum 50 plate appearances) and just was named the AL Player of the Week. But this is about 2017. The Yankees are going to try to contend, and their best chance to do so would be with McCann and Sanchez because:

1. Sanchez and Romine both will be out of options next year. Thus, neither could be sent to the minors without exposing them to waivers. So, Sanchez is on the roster all of next year no matter what. But if he struggles, would the Yankees be comfortable with Romine as the main catcher? Before you say he won’t struggle, did you predict Michael Conforto going back to the minors this year?

2. There are 1,000-plus plate appearances for McCann/Sanchez to share. Ideally, Sanchez could catch 100 games and DH for 30, and McCann could catch 60 and DH 60-70.

“We have two catchers who hit from the opposite side, and that has a lot of value for us,” Cashman said.
I had Lau's book  
Phil in LA : 8/23/2016 11:55 am : link
Lots of pictures of George Brett and Reggie.
I'm hoping  
Phil in LA : 8/23/2016 11:56 am : link
Higgy is the number two catcher next year.
Here  
DanMetroMan : 8/23/2016 11:58 am : link
is Vaughn, I was at this game
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Shrek does have a one hand follow through  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 11:59 am : link


Most of the dynasty Yankees didn't. Jeter, Bernie, O'Neill, Po, those guys all used two hands. Tino did it a little bit, but only at the very hand. Strawberry had a very pronounced one-handed swing, though.
Del, that means Romine  
section125 : 8/23/2016 12:01 pm : link
will be traded, a la Cervelli. I like McCann a lot. But he is more likely to be traded. I could live with Romine as back up.

Also, Bird is not a certainty to return with the same hitting ability right away. I can see Bird starting in SWB to get the swing back. McCann can play some 1st base to keep his bat in the lineup.

I like the options available.
Here  
DanMetroMan : 8/23/2016 12:02 pm : link
is Piazza. 2 handed is less popular than it used to be but there are still a bunch of guys who still do it.
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McCann  
Phil in LA : 8/23/2016 12:03 pm : link
Should be traded. He's been in decline since his mid 20s. We don't need big salaried vets clogging the 40 man roster going forward.
Here  
DanMetroMan : 8/23/2016 12:04 pm : link
is Napoli

Mauer uses 2 hands, Ichiro, Goldschmidt
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Trout uses two hands, too  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 12:08 pm : link
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unless they get overwhelmed, keep McCann as a mentor/DH  
Victor in CT : 8/23/2016 12:09 pm : link
Sanchez as #1 catcher, occasional DH. Having Romine too would be a luxury. They could probably get something decent for him because he is a good defensive catcher.
Romine would actually be good for the Mets. They need a really good  
Victor in CT : 8/23/2016 12:12 pm : link
defensive catcher who can throw. d'Arnaud is a joke who doesn't hit enough to justify his poor defense and is always hurt.
Mentor  
Phil in LA : 8/23/2016 12:16 pm : link
On how to speed his decline? Why would we pay 15m for that and to block Higgy? We need the 40 space.
I'd  
DanMetroMan : 8/23/2016 12:18 pm : link
be shocked if McCann is a Yankee next year. He has some value, catcher is so weak around the league. Someone will either take his entire deal with very little return or give up something "solid" with the Yankees eating some cash.
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GiantFilthy : 8/23/2016 12:31 pm : link
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McCann
Phil in LA : 12:03 pm : link : reply
Should be traded. He's been in decline since his mid 20s. We don't need big salaried vets clogging the 40 man roster going forward.

He would have been if the Yankees hadn't demanded Ender and Folty along with not picking up much of the tab when they wanted the Braves to bail them out of a contract they no longer want.
As long as  
LS : 8/23/2016 12:55 pm : link
you have two hands on the bat at the point of contact, it doesn't matter how you finish....or start for that matter.
He's no Mookie Betts  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2016 12:56 pm : link
that's for sure.
Yeah, the NY Post mentioned the Montero comparison today, too.  
manh george : 8/23/2016 1:48 pm : link
There are only about a dozen differences, starting with the fact that Montero was always considered a questionable catcher who could hit. Turns out that he was also an outlier, in the sense that he was lazy as bleep, not aq usual attribute of highly talented hitting prospects.

No reason to think that Sanchez is Montero-like either as a catcher or as a human being.
Sanchez will never be Montero. - ( New Window )
RE: Yeah, the NY Post mentioned the Montero comparison today, too.  
DanMetroMan : 8/23/2016 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13083161 manh george said:
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There are only about a dozen differences, starting with the fact that Montero was always considered a questionable catcher who could hit. Turns out that he was also an outlier, in the sense that he was lazy as bleep, not aq usual attribute of highly talented hitting prospects.

No reason to think that Sanchez is Montero-like either as a catcher or as a human being. Sanchez will never be Montero. - ( New Window )


In fairness the knock on Sanchez was that he was immature . Since the suspension he has received praise for his hard work but at one point there was an "immature/bad attitude" tag on Sanchez that he has seemingly overcome (and improved defense as well). Despite a great arm there was some talk of him moving to 1b or even DH if his defense didn't improve. It has.
here's a stat that's both fun and depressing  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 3:08 pm : link
After seventeen games, Sanchez is sixth on the team in WAR.
RE: here's a stat that's both fun and depressing  
Mad Mike : 8/23/2016 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13083246 Greg from LI said:
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After seventeen games, Sanchez is sixth on the team in WAR.

He's 4th among AL catchers (counting Lucroy just since the trade), 12th league wide.
The question soon might be  
dpinzow : 8/23/2016 10:20 pm : link
do you want him catching on a regular basis if his hitting is this good? I would say yes for the time being but catch him 100 games, give Romine 60 games and let him DH the rest
Absolutely  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 10:25 pm : link
One of the things that made the dynasty tens so good was they had plus hitters at defensive positions - Jeter at short, Bernie in center, Posada behind the plate.

Besides, Romine isn't nearly good enough to merit 60 starts. If they trade McCann, I'd rather see Higashioka as the backup.
This is on the assumption that McCann is traded back  
dpinzow : 8/23/2016 10:28 pm : link
to Atlanta which seems like something he wants. If McCann is still here then the current arrangement still applies with Sanchez catching 100 games and McCann DH'ing 100 games
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