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NFT: I just have to vent on the Yankees

blueblood'11 : 8/23/2016 7:13 am
I realixe the moves they made have enriched thier minor leagues enormously. I live in an area where I get to see a number of their AAA games and this team is loaded. Their AA team is loaded. Trades will be made and have to be made because their bullpen is now a fucking mess.

How many times do We have to sit and watch Anthony fucking Swarzak flush a lead with a three run homerun. You mean to tell me he's the only option they have in that situation. What about the flame thrower Heller they got in one of the trades. I've seen him warming a few times but they never bring him in. Swarzak has been so up and down mostly down yet Joe keeps running him out there.

This is going to be a huge problem for the Yankees unless the likes of Chapman decides to come back to the Yankees at year's end. I love the trades and the players they got but now the pitching will have to be retooled. Cashman has done a nice job up to this point and like I said watching their minor leagues they are loaded. So I'm hoping some creative trading is done because the future is bright where positional players are concerned but the pitching is shakey at best.
Heller is back down in SWB  
TheMick7 : 8/23/2016 7:22 am : link
They sent him down when they brought up Austin,Judge because he still has options. He'll be back September 1st. Swarzak has been horrible recently. So was/is Yates before they sent him down,then brought him back.The Yankees middle relief has not been good all year.Last year Shreve was lights out but this year has been horrible. Arm injuries to many of the kids who were used last year. Even Warren has been shaky in the last few outings. Don't know that we have any quick fixes available.
Which would you rather fix the bullpen  
superspynyg : 8/23/2016 8:37 am : link
Or the rotation?
RE: Which would you rather fix the bullpen  
section125 : 8/23/2016 8:44 am : link
In comment 13082496 superspynyg said:
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Or the rotation?


You are not wrong, but you can't have the starting pitching give a tremendous 6 or 7 innings and watch guys like Swarzak and Shreve screw it up in a matter of a few pitches. Either the starters need to go 8 or they better find better BP guys.
Warren blew up in one game - same game as Swarzak. Anybody that blows a FB past Mike Trout on a 3-2 count with bases loaded in the 8th is fine by me.
the back end of the bullpen is fine. the problem is their rotation  
Victor in CT : 8/23/2016 8:47 am : link
sucks. Yes, it would be great to get Chapman back to pair with Bettances, but it wouldn't solve the problem, which is that none of their starters consistently pitch into 7th inning, and most aren't getting out of the 5th. Teams that have to rely on middle relief to that extent are never consistent winners.

If the Yankees had even decent starting pitching they could make a run.Getting Severino straightened out would go a long way to resolving the problem. Losing Eovoldi sucked too. He was inconsistent and a tease, but he ate up innings
I like Girardi more than most of you  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 8:49 am : link
But his continued use of Swarzak in close games is baffling. The guy is dogshit. I know the pen is thin now, but good lord, give someone else a chance. Call up someone, do something, just stop running Swarzak out there to serve up gopher balls.
last night was brutal -  
Del Shofner : 8/23/2016 8:51 am : link
Sanchez' sample size is growing and his OPS is up to like 1.26, plus he throws out runners. What does he have to do to win a game that we needed to win? Both 3-run homers came when the pitchers fell behind and grooved pitches with 3 balls in the count. Just ugly ...
RE: I like Girardi more than most of you  
Del Shofner : 8/23/2016 8:52 am : link
In comment 13082518 Greg from LI said:
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But his continued use of Swarzak in close games is baffling. The guy is dogshit. I know the pen is thin now, but good lord, give someone else a chance. Call up someone, do something, just stop running Swarzak out there to serve up gopher balls.


Agree on all points.
RE: RE: I like Girardi more than most of you  
mfsd : 8/23/2016 8:53 am : link
In comment 13082522 Del Shofner said:
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But his continued use of Swarzak in close games is baffling. The guy is dogshit. I know the pen is thin now, but good lord, give someone else a chance. Call up someone, do something, just stop running Swarzak out there to serve up gopher balls.



Agree on all points.


second second

it's as if they are with the middle relief where they were with A-Rod in May...clearly need to make a change, but Yanks are taking their sweet ass time
hell, call up Enns and put him in the bullpen  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 8:56 am : link
what do they have to lose? More games?
Have patients ...  
Beer Man : 8/23/2016 9:08 am : link
Building a baseball dynasty is like making a fine wine, it takes time. There are some players they won't bring up this year because that exposes them to 40 man and they will have to start using options on them. The team will most likely go into the off-season set on improving the overall pitching staff. The next wave of youth will hit in 2017.
I'm with you on Girardi, Greg.  
section125 : 8/23/2016 9:09 am : link
I think he is restricted somewhat by Cashman. Maybe he's throwing Swarzak out there for a reason.

It really isn't about this year anyway - despite what Joe says. They need to find if Austin can hit MLB pitching. Seems Sanchez is a semi-lock (knock wood). Judge needs to hit the low and away pitch or that is where they'll feed him every at bat.
I think Castro can be taught to shorten his swing. He might be the next 3rd baseman. Looks like he has 20 hr capability. I don't think he is long term 2nd base (duh).
I wonder  
mdthedream : 8/23/2016 9:16 am : link
what would have happened if you played the two rookies early and put McCann at first. I think the Yanks would have made the playoffs. I still would have traded Chapman for youth.
Austin might be an interesting test case  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 9:29 am : link
He's struggling mightily since that first game. We'll see how much more of an opportunity he gets to get himself on track.
RE: Austin might be an interesting test case  
Beer Man : 8/23/2016 9:36 am : link
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He's struggling mightily since that first game. We'll see how much more of an opportunity he gets to get himself on track.
I think they need to play Austin everyday the same as what they are doing with Judge. Austin needs to adjust to MLB pitching, which becomes a difficult task when he is watching from the bench.
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Victor in CT : 8/23/2016 9:42 am : link
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He's struggling mightily since that first game. We'll see how much more of an opportunity he gets to get himself on track.

I think they need to play Austin everyday the same as what they are doing with Judge. Austin needs to adjust to MLB pitching, which becomes a difficult task when he is watching from the bench.


Yes. You don't bring these kids up to sit and watch. Let 'em play.
thing is, though, Austin doesn't have the upside of Judge or Sanchez  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 9:42 am : link
Plus, if Bird can come back strong, he's got the inside track to the majority of the 1B starts next season, so they're probably less inclined to be as patient with Austin. I'm certainly pulling for him, but he's gonna need to get some hits soon if he's to stay in the lineup.
RE: thing is, though, Austin doesn't have the upside of Judge or Sanchez  
Victor in CT : 8/23/2016 9:45 am : link
In comment 13082638 Greg from LI said:
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Plus, if Bird can come back strong, he's got the inside track to the majority of the 1B starts next season, so they're probably less inclined to be as patient with Austin. I'm certainly pulling for him, but he's gonna need to get some hits soon if he's to stay in the lineup.


And is he plays and hits, they could use him in a deal for pitching IF Bird comes back healthy and undiminished.
Honestly, what I want to see most of all right now  
Greg from LI : 8/23/2016 9:48 am : link
are more strong starts from Green and Cessa. If both of them can be at least average starters, that's a big boost going forward.
the hate on Girardi  
PaulBlakeTSU : 8/23/2016 2:06 pm : link
for putting in Swarzak is a bit overblown. Sure, Swarzak has been terrible this season.

But his problem has been an astronomical home run rate this season that doesn't jibe with anything he's done in his career. He has given up 3.10 HR/9, whereas his career average is 1.10 HR/9. That elevated rate is unsustainable and an aberration. Maybe it's mechanical, but it could be just some awful luck. There's no need to burn out important arms or start option clocks on young guys in the minors.

Plus, it's not as if the Yankees are truly in contention for the playoffs. Even if the Yankees won, they'd be 4 games out of the second wild card spot, trailing 4 other teams, tied with KCR, and with the 5th worst run differential in the American League.
Fyi ...  
Beer Man : 8/23/2016 2:23 pm : link
Ben Heller was just recalled to the big team
RE: thing is, though, Austin doesn't have the upside of Judge or Sanchez  
section125 : 8/23/2016 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13082638 Greg from LI said:
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Plus, if Bird can come back strong, he's got the inside track to the majority of the 1B starts next season, so they're probably less inclined to be as patient with Austin. I'm certainly pulling for him, but he's gonna need to get some hits soon if he's to stay in the lineup.


He'd be a nice piece for backup 1B and 4th OF.

He needs ABs. Probably pressing like hell after what Sanchez and Judge are doing. Cannot be easy following that.
Warren  
Ron from Ninerland : 8/23/2016 4:55 pm : link
Since he's been back here he's had 12 appearences. The only time he got lit up is when he was asked to pitch on back to back days. That's the first time he was asked to do so this year by either the Yankees or the Cubs. Other than that the new top 3 of Clippard, Warren and Bentaces have done surprisingly well. Amazingly, even after the loss of Miller and Chapman we still have a pretty good back 3. But they can't pitch every day. I blame yesterday's loss on yet another stinkfest by Pineda. Our rotation now consists of Tanaka, a fading CC, a usually bad Pineda and two rookies. Promising rookies, but still rookies.
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