NFT: FF Thread 8/23

your not getting Gronk. Also replace Anderson.

But that is personal choice. Is it a PPR?

Yes, PPR.

Anderson is going to be the lead back on what will be a run oriented team. In the 5th round I don't think he's a bad pick at all regardless of format but maybe that's me.

it's not that great, and Gronk is falling rightfully or not because of Garoppolo, Bennett, losing Vollmer, and Edelman shaky.

ppr it looks a little better

For picks 11 and 14 should I go Wr/wr (like Dez or Green and Robinson) or wr/Rb (Dez or Green and Charles)?

Who is better?
Dez or AJ Green

In comment 13082569 pjcas18 said:

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it's not that great, and Gronk is falling rightfully or not because of Garoppolo, Bennett, losing Vollmer, and Edelman shaky. ppr it looks a little better

My team is similar, I had the 9th pick. I don't have a Beckham, but the rest is similar to that team in quality IMO.

QB: Brees/Carr
RB: McCoy/D. Murray/Langford/Abdullah/K.White
WR: Dez/A-Rob/TY Hilton/M. Jones/K. White/M. Thomas
TE: ertz

Flex would be my 3rd WR.

he still averaged 4.7 YPC last year despite all his terrible games. He can catch the ball and gets goalline work. He's fantastic value for where his ADP is, quite possibly one of the best.

but that's 90% contingent on health. I just don't want a twice broken foot with my first pick. Green also has way more upside this year with his #2 and #3 WR's gone and his TE hurt. He should be a targets machine.

In comment 13082584 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13082569 pjcas18 said: Quote: it's not that great, and Gronk is falling rightfully or not because of Garoppolo, Bennett, losing Vollmer, and Edelman shaky. ppr it looks a little better My team is similar, I had the 9th pick. I don't have a Beckham, but the rest is similar to that team in quality IMO. QB: Brees/Carr RB: McCoy/D. Murray/Langford/Abdullah/K.White WR: Dez/A-Rob/TY Hilton/M. Jones/K. White/M. Thomas TE: ertz Flex would be my 3rd WR.

I like this team better than the one I posted. I think Gronk is a major advantage over Ertz but you have a better QB, better WR's and I like your RB depth better.

Really why I posted this thread is because I can't seem to ever draft a team I like when I take Gronk but at the same time, if he was still on the board @ 2.8, could I really pass?

In a 12 team draft the RBs will be slim pickings when your turn comes in the draft so I don't think it is a terrible idea to take Miller. You should have plenty of quality receivers at your next w pick. These guys aren't guaranteed but guys like Cooper, Cooks, Evans, Watkins, Landry, and Baldwin could be available and almost certainly one or more will be. The RBs available may include Hyde. I am not sure who is going around then.

I just had this conversation with someone. You have to know your league. If you can easily trade then just go BPA and worry about positions after. If you cannot trade easily then do what is best for your team OVERALL. Lets say you have Dez ranked above Miller so naturally you take him but if the rest of the draft gives you value at WR are you going to keep going WR? I did that last year with RB. I had Freeman, David Johnson, Jeremy Hill, Ivory, Coleman, Latavius Murray, and someone else who I cannot remember. I couldn't trade any of them because everybody was lowballing me. I had Jordan Mathews as my top WR. I traded Gronk for Demaryius Thomas but it wasn't enough. It isn't that my backs underperformed or that they got hurt like people are afraid of. I just went BPA and it backfired because nobody likes to trade in my league.

So, going back to what I am saying. If it is hard to trade then taking a slightly lesser player early can help you maximize the value later in the draft. Do a mock. Every time I draft toward the end of the round in a 12 team league it is loaded with WRs.

And to expand on that point.. the way I had been approaching the TE before even thinking Gronk would be any sort of consideration was that the earliest I'd take one would be if Reed was still on the board @ 4.8. The value is probably too good for me to pass on there and by that point, I'll already likely have 2 WR and a RB.

I'd be very happy starting a team with something like Beckham, Nelson/Cooper, McCoy, Reed.. I've also considered Walker in the 6th if he's there. Maybe Olsen in the 5th.

I try to basically figure out spots where I would pull the trigger on TE/QB earlier than the 9th or 10th rd. If none of those scenarios play out, I just keep taking the best WR/RB's

In comment 13082593 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13082584 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13082569 pjcas18 said: Quote: it's not that great, and Gronk is falling rightfully or not because of Garoppolo, Bennett, losing Vollmer, and Edelman shaky. ppr it looks a little better My team is similar, I had the 9th pick. I don't have a Beckham, but the rest is similar to that team in quality IMO. QB: Brees/Carr RB: McCoy/D. Murray/Langford/Abdullah/K.White WR: Dez/A-Rob/TY Hilton/M. Jones/K. White/M. Thomas TE: ertz Flex would be my 3rd WR. I like this team better than the one I posted. I think Gronk is a major advantage over Ertz but you have a better QB, better WR's and I like your RB depth better. Really why I posted this thread is because I can't seem to ever draft a team I like when I take Gronk but at the same time, if he was still on the board @ 2.8, could I really pass?

I debated it. Gronk and Reed are the top 2 TE's kind of by a lot with Eifert coming back from injury (and maybe anyway even with a healthy Eifert).

but when I picked at 9, I didn't consider him, I was debating AJ Green, Dez, and Lamar Miller

at 12, I debated between Gronk, Allen Robinson, and Brandon Marshall.

if I was picking 18 and Gronk was there I don't think I could pass him up.

For the record, he went 13 in my draft.

It is tough to put a great team together with Gronk as your first pick. I hate the way my teams come out when I do that.

In comment 13082629 robbieballs2003 said:

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It is tough to put a great team together with Gronk as your first pick. I hate the way my teams come out when I do that.

So do I. I have said it for years.. I just never like the way Gronk teams come out. But I'm not really sure if it's just my perception because it means the team has one less elite RB/WR or if the overall team really isn't as good as it could be by waiting on TE.

take him in the 2nd and run with it. He is going to see 100 targets a game because Jimmy will force him the ball. I dont care who is out there and who is injured. Stud players get the ball forced to them all the time.

I may get him on 18 in my draft. I am hearing 4 QBs will be selected by then!

still worth a decent pick (5th best QB according to Berry) with the loss of Volmer and Dion Lewis? Or look another direction this year?

Is Fleener the consensus sweet spot pick for TE?

Basically I am looking for this year's Eifert (couple years ago Jordan Cameron).

There's always one tight end like that.

In comment 13082663 Mr. Nickels said:

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Is Fleener the consensus sweet spot pick for TE? Basically I am looking for this year's Eifert (couple years ago Jordan Cameron). There's always one tight end like that.

I really like Julius Thomas later on. He seems to last until the 10th-11th rd in a lot of cases.

Basically I am approaching TE like I said before..

If Gronk is still somehow on the board @ 2.8, I'd probably take him. I don't like any TE in rd 3 (assuming Gronk is gone).. I would highly consider Reed @ 4.8, Olsen @ 5.3 or Walker/Fleener @ 6.8.. if none of those guys fall into my lap, I am fine waiting for Julius Thomas or Ertz. Dwayne Allen isn't being drafted until very late.. Witten isn't, either. A guy like Walford can emerge in OAK. Zach Miller is going very late. I am fine waiting for guys like that if none of the above scenarios present themselves.

What's the deal with Ebron? I remember it sounded like his injury was pretty serious but I haven't seen anything that says he's out for an extended period. But no one seems to be drafting him at this point.

In comment 13082673 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13082663 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: Is Fleener the consensus sweet spot pick for TE? Basically I am looking for this year's Eifert (couple years ago Jordan Cameron). There's always one tight end like that. I really like Julius Thomas later on. He seems to last until the 10th-11th rd in a lot of cases. Basically I am approaching TE like I said before.. If Gronk is still somehow on the board @ 2.8, I'd probably take him. I don't like any TE in rd 3 (assuming Gronk is gone).. I would highly consider Reed @ 4.8, Olsen @ 5.3 or Walker/Fleener @ 6.8.. if none of those guys fall into my lap, I am fine waiting for Julius Thomas or Ertz. Dwayne Allen isn't being drafted until very late.. Witten isn't, either. A guy like Walford can emerge in OAK. Zach Miller is going very late. I am fine waiting for guys like that if none of the above scenarios present themselves. What's the deal with Ebron? I remember it sounded like his injury was pretty serious but I haven't seen anything that says he's out for an extended period. But no one seems to be drafting him at this point.

Witten is a FA in both my 10-team league and 12-team (though 12-team is not TE mandatory).

Ebron and Julius Thomas

Everyone on my team last year I was the year too soon team.

I would go for Fleener and then Julius Thomas/Ebron.

Is Jimmy Graham a do not draft or will he have a big come back?

Yeah I haven't seen Witten even get drafted in any mock I've done. So I feel pretty confident that if that's my absolute worst case, I can afford to sit on TE for a bit unless a really good value falls into my lap.

In comment 13082578 superspynyg said:

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For picks 11 and 14 should I go Wr/wr (like Dez or Green and Robinson) or wr/Rb (Dez or Green and Charles)? Who is better? Dez or AJ Green

I like going WR/WR first two picks for PPR leagues. And I think the draft plays into that strategy with some solid mid-tier running backs later with high upside (Hill, Murray and Duke Johnson to name a few) As far as Green and Dez, I personally go Green all the way. I would even take ARob over Dez. First off, being a Giants fan I try to avoid Cowboys and second, Green is going to be the main focal point in their passing attack with Sanu and Jones gone. Arob will be in the top 15 in targets with immense talent. I am also making sure I get Marvin Jones this year. I think he'll be one of the best draft day values when its all said and done.

In comment 13082697 Mr. Nickels said:

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Ebron and Julius Thomas Everyone on my team last year I was the year too soon team. I would go for Fleener and then Julius Thomas/Ebron. Is Jimmy Graham a do not draft or will he have a big come back?

Graham is coming back from the same Cruz injury. I read two weeks ago how he was right on track, now I read he's not a sure bet to start the season on time.

In comment 13082726 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13082697 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: Ebron and Julius Thomas Everyone on my team last year I was the year too soon team. I would go for Fleener and then Julius Thomas/Ebron. Is Jimmy Graham a do not draft or will he have a big come back? Graham is coming back from the same Cruz injury. I read two weeks ago how he was right on track, now I read he's not a sure bet to start the season on time.

just to finish this point, I don't know I'd totally avoid him but for reference in my ten team (which requires a TE) he was mr irrelevant (last pick 15th round) and in my 12-team he went late 14th round.

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Ebron and Julius Thomas Everyone on my team last year I was the year too soon team. I would go for Fleener and then Julius Thomas/Ebron. Is Jimmy Graham a do not draft or will he have a big come back?

Those were the two guys I was targeting for the early mocks, but not so sure now. The lions have a lot of options in the passing game (Tate, M. Jones, Riddick, Abdullah, Boldin now) Not sure if Ebron will get the volume expected with Megatron gone - wouldn't be surprised if I am wrong. And for J. Thomas, not sure if I can trust him since he hasn't done anything since Post-Manning. Again, not surprised if I am wrong. Fleener on the other hand I love, but I've seen drafts where he goes in the 5th/6th which seems risky.

For you guys who do leagues with buy in's.. do you have a league "treasurer" that just holds everyones dues or do you use a league lockbox type of thing?

I took over as commish for my main league this year.. trying to figure out the easiest way to do this.

In comment 13082737 arcarsenal said:

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For you guys who do leagues with buy in's.. do you have a league "treasurer" that just holds everyones dues or do you use a league lockbox type of thing? I took over as commish for my main league this year.. trying to figure out the easiest way to do this.

Chasing down money sucks. Our commissioner collects it and keeps it for the season, people usually pay with paypal or some still use a check.

we have a rule you have to pay by the draft, but there are always stragglers, and last year he was still chasing someone down in January after the season ended.

We're all friends so we don't want to be douche bags about it, but that sucks. worst part of the job if you get people that slow pay or don't pay.

I avoid being commissioner/treasurer.

but we all know him well so there's no trust issues.

In comment 13082740 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13082737 arcarsenal said: Quote: For you guys who do leagues with buy in's.. do you have a league "treasurer" that just holds everyones dues or do you use a league lockbox type of thing? I took over as commish for my main league this year.. trying to figure out the easiest way to do this. Chasing down money sucks. Our commissioner collects it and keeps it for the season, people usually pay with paypal or some still use a check. we have a rule you have to pay by the draft, but there are always stragglers, and last year he was still chasing someone down in January after the season ended. We're all friends so we don't want to be douche bags about it, but that sucks. worst part of the job if you get people that slow pay or don't pay. I avoid being commissioner/treasurer.

Yeah, it's a pain.. our league is basically all guys from my hometown that I went to high school with, this is like a 10 year long standing league so I know everyone very well and even still, we had a guy last year that moved out to California just never pay (we kicked him out) so I got screwed out of 100 bucks last year. And another guy just for whatever reason can never pay on time.. always last minute. He's one of those people who is late for everything and would be late to his own wedding.

I guess I can just have everyone send me the money through Venmo/PayPal and I'll just leave it in my account until payouts.

pay before you draft or don't be in the league. PayPal, Venmo, sending a check in the mail...zero excuse in 2016.

I'm the commish for my league and hold the money. Everyone knows you aren't drafting if you don't show up with the entry fee, its never been a problem.

In comment 13082737 arcarsenal said:

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For you guys who do leagues with buy in's.. do you have a league "treasurer" that just holds everyones dues or do you use a league lockbox type of thing? I took over as commish for my main league this year.. trying to figure out the easiest way to do this.

I am commish, but we have a treasurer who collects/awards payouts. You need people to help out.

In comment 13082740 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13082737 arcarsenal said: Quote: For you guys who do leagues with buy in's.. do you have a league "treasurer" that just holds everyones dues or do you use a league lockbox type of thing? I took over as commish for my main league this year.. trying to figure out the easiest way to do this. Chasing down money sucks. Our commissioner collects it and keeps it for the season, people usually pay with paypal or some still use a check. we have a rule you have to pay by the draft, but there are always stragglers, and last year he was still chasing someone down in January after the season ended. We're all friends so we don't want to be douche bags about it, but that sucks. worst part of the job if you get people that slow pay or don't pay. I avoid being commissioner/treasurer.

The issue with paying by the draft is what do you do if someone doesn't pay? Are you going to stop the draft? Are you going to find a new owner in minutes? I get the rule but that really isn't practical. In our league dues are due one month before the draft. If the owner cannot make the payment then he needs to set up some type of payment system with the treasurer so that he is tied to his team with money. If that still doesn't happen where he kind of puts a down payment down then that leaves us a month to find a new owner and get them up to speed on the rules of the league. We haven't had issues. We also send out reminds one month prior, a couple of weeks prior, and the week of.

I am in a league where dues are due by the playoffs and the commissioner gets frustrated every year. Last year 2 teams didn't pay and one was a playoff team. The playoff team wasn't allowed in the playoffs. The other team wasn't allowed in the toilet bowl. I won and was worried I wasn't going to get paid. The commissioner still paid me but he was hunting down those two owners for the money. Can you imagine being the team that made the playoffs, didn't pay, amd got kicked out of the playoffs? Why would that owner pay after the fact? He did but I would be a lot wouldn't.

In comment 13082701 arcarsenal said:

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Yeah I haven't seen Witten even get drafted in any mock I've done. So I feel pretty confident that if that's my absolute worst case, I can afford to sit on TE for a bit unless a really good value falls into my lap.

I doubt Witten does much this year, but he does have the NYG as week 1 opponent going for him. Has the guy ever not scored a touchdown and had at least 8 catches for 60 yards in a game against us?

at least a couple weeks before the draft. That way if someone doesn't pay on time you can start looking for a replacement.

Commish shouldn't be on the hook for non-payment. Should've just reduced the payouts by that amount. The more people pissed about someone not paying, the less likely it is to happen again.

if anyone showed up without paying, they might as well find 11 new friends, haha. They'd be mocked and verbally assaulted until the end of time.

Not saying you have to do that, but if someone won't be present, I'd set a date where they have to send you money by. You may even want to collect payments on 8/1 (whatever date you decide) to make plans for anyone that hasn't paid.

Not sure what your buy ins are, but if you know you are playing fantasy and know the buy in is $200 almost a year in advance, you should be able to pay on time.

In comment 13082802 giants#1 said:

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at least a couple weeks before the draft. That way if someone doesn't pay on time you can start looking for a replacement. Commish shouldn't be on the hook for non-payment. Should've just reduced the payouts by that amount. The more people pissed about someone not paying, the less likely it is to happen again.

that makes sense, we're just never organized enough to do that. It's always mid-August and we say when can everyone draft?

Two years ago we had a guy bail day of the draft. Just said "I can't do it this year, sorry" 30 minutes before our Yahoo draft was scheduled. And we were all (except him) at one of our buddies houses. Yahoo doesn't let you adjust that time. that draft is happening.

so that would help avoid situations like we had. I had to get my brother to agree to be in the league and I drafted his team for him - which I hate doing. His team was awesome, better than mine wound up and he lost in the finals (on a GM lineup decision)

My rule. Everyone must pay at the draft. If not, their team is benched then locked until payment is received. If they do not pay by a certain time, they are kicked out of the league the following year.

I had one guy who refused to pay me move money because he didnt like me. He wasnt invited back and I have had no problems ever since.

One of our owners kept Dion Lewis. The news came out the same day keepers were due which was Sunday. I posted all the keepers Sunday night and told all owners to double check and I would put them into the website Monday night. The co-owners of that team never said they didn't want to keep Lewis. Monday night I put the keepers in.

Some owners were texting me asking me who I thought the worst keeper was. I said hands down Lewis. I said if the owner lets me know by like tomorrow I would still let him drop him to get his pick back because the news just came out on Sunday. The owner I was talking with was why would you allow that? I said because people have lives, go on vacation, and cannot be up to date with information. However, if he said it like Friday I think that would be too late.

So, where do you draw the line? It isn't like this news came AFTER keepers were due. If it did I would have no issue alowing a change. This news camd out PRIOR which is what other owners had an issue with.

I texted the co-commissioner to discuss it. He said he would text the owner who kept Lewis. I was kind of uneasy about that because it isn't our job to manage other teams. So, every time there is an injury we should contact the owner about making a move? I don't like that slippery slope.

What would you guys do?

if he was contacted, and given a chance to decide and didn't respond, that's on him. No real excuse with cell phones.

In comment 13082839 robbieballs2003 said:

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One of our owners kept Dion Lewis. The news came out the same day keepers were due which was Sunday. I posted all the keepers Sunday night and told all owners to double check and I would put them into the website Monday night. The co-owners of that team never said they didn't want to keep Lewis. Monday night I put the keepers in. Some owners were texting me asking me who I thought the worst keeper was. I said hands down Lewis. I said if the owner lets me know by like tomorrow I would still let him drop him to get his pick back because the news just came out on Sunday. The owner I was talking with was why would you allow that? I said because people have lives, go on vacation, and cannot be up to date with information. However, if he said it like Friday I think that would be too late. So, where do you draw the line? It isn't like this news came AFTER keepers were due. If it did I would have no issue alowing a change. This news camd out PRIOR which is what other owners had an issue with. I texted the co-commissioner to discuss it. He said he would text the owner who kept Lewis. I was kind of uneasy about that because it isn't our job to manage other teams. So, every time there is an injury we should contact the owner about making a move? I don't like that slippery slope. What would you guys do?

Our draft was Sunday, we had a guy keep Lewis with an 8th round pick, and it was too late by the time the news came out. We had already drafted.

In your case I'd do the exact same thing as you pre-draft. We have a rule that our keepers are due August 1 to allow people to strategize and plan for the draft, but up until the draft if you keep a player that is documented injured and out at least 4 weeks you can change your keeper. This was the "Jordy Nelson rule"

But no other reasons, like suspension, or trade, or anything like that.

So for your league in your case, pre-draft we'd allow a change in keeper.

like you said, not all of us are watching football news every day this time of year. It doesnt mean you have to inform everyone of all injuries down the line, its not your responsibility... nor do you even have to be consistent about it either.

I assume you are playing with your friends - bigger picture here, just inform them and move on.

In comment 13082839 robbieballs2003 said:

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One of our owners kept Dion Lewis. The news came out the same day keepers were due which was Sunday. I posted all the keepers Sunday night and told all owners to double check and I would put them into the website Monday night. The co-owners of that team never said they didn't want to keep Lewis. Monday night I put the keepers in. Some owners were texting me asking me who I thought the worst keeper was. I said hands down Lewis. I said if the owner lets me know by like tomorrow I would still let him drop him to get his pick back because the news just came out on Sunday. The owner I was talking with was why would you allow that? I said because people have lives, go on vacation, and cannot be up to date with information. However, if he said it like Friday I think that would be too late. So, where do you draw the line? It isn't like this news came AFTER keepers were due. If it did I would have no issue alowing a change. This news camd out PRIOR which is what other owners had an issue with. I texted the co-commissioner to discuss it. He said he would text the owner who kept Lewis. I was kind of uneasy about that because it isn't our job to manage other teams. So, every time there is an injury we should contact the owner about making a move? I don't like that slippery slope. What would you guys do?

Has the owner of the Lewis team said anything about it?

If they come out and say they weren't aware of his 2nd surgery and want to change it and it's a few days before the draft, I'd probably let them. I wouldn't go out of my way to contact them about it though. It's their team and their responsibility.

Speaking of Lewis.. now what? James White is the guy people are drafting?

Blount feels like the only guy in that backfield you can ever rely on for anything (albeit, usually just early down and goal line work) because his role seems to be the most consistent.

In comment 13082839 robbieballs2003 said:

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One of our owners kept Dion Lewis. The news came out the same day keepers were due which was Sunday. I posted all the keepers Sunday night and told all owners to double check and I would put them into the website Monday night. The co-owners of that team never said they didn't want to keep Lewis. Monday night I put the keepers in. Some owners were texting me asking me who I thought the worst keeper was. I said hands down Lewis. I said if the owner lets me know by like tomorrow I would still let him drop him to get his pick back because the news just came out on Sunday. The owner I was talking with was why would you allow that? I said because people have lives, go on vacation, and cannot be up to date with information. However, if he said it like Friday I think that would be too late. So, where do you draw the line? It isn't like this news came AFTER keepers were due. If it did I would have no issue alowing a change. This news camd out PRIOR which is what other owners had an issue with. I texted the co-commissioner to discuss it. He said he would text the owner who kept Lewis. I was kind of uneasy about that because it isn't our job to manage other teams. So, every time there is an injury we should contact the owner about making a move? I don't like that slippery slope. What would you guys do?

It's a rare occurrence (once/twice a year, if that). Perfectly fine to give a buffer for last minute injuries or even allow guys being kept to be swapped out if they are injured after the keeper deadline but before the draft. Someone will be pissed that you allow it, but that same person would probably demand you allow them to switch keepers if it was their guy that got hurt.

And no reason not to double check with the owner via text/email as your co-commish did. Better to get a quick answer then find out the guy was on business trip/vacation and didn't see the news for 3 days.

and realize even in a league of friends you all want to win.

So agree with Arc, I'd let them change it, but I wouldn't hunt them down to make sure they do.

We had a guy in my keeper league, pick 5 take Derrick Henry. Everyone else immediately laughed and did a double take and said "what?" and he said "Derrick Henry the rookie RB for Tenn from Alabama, the Heisman winner"

So what can you do. He's not a bad pick, but he usually went about 6 rounds later than this.

Last year this same guy picked 3 QB's in the first 4 rounds. he took Beckham in round 1, then Brees, then Peyton, then Brady (and for good measure added Garoppolo late for his 4th QB) and I ridiculed him mercilessly.

He lost in the finals.

and in-season management aren't the same as losing a keeper because you missed some last minute injury news.

bad drafting (my sister last year took the Seattle defense in the 4th round ... we all made fun of here... meanwhile i was a genius for getting Jeremy Hill and CJ Anderson in the 2nd/3rd rounds... she won the league, i didnt make the playoffs) ... and in season lineup mismanagement are part of the deal.

Offseason keeper stuff... its the summer ... lets not take ourselves and the leagues no one cares about but us too seriously.

I think the Commish or assistant Commish should not contact owners to coach them up on the value of their players. What's next, will you contact someone if they have a BYE week or injured player starting?

I always feel you let people manage their rosters and if they purposely start an injured or BYE week player for several weeks, then you kick them out of the league the following year.

I simply don't like being responsible for managing other teams rosters in my leagues.

In comment 13082750 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13082740 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13082737 arcarsenal said: Quote: For you guys who do leagues with buy in's.. do you have a league "treasurer" that just holds everyones dues or do you use a league lockbox type of thing? I took over as commish for my main league this year.. trying to figure out the easiest way to do this. Chasing down money sucks. Our commissioner collects it and keeps it for the season, people usually pay with paypal or some still use a check. we have a rule you have to pay by the draft, but there are always stragglers, and last year he was still chasing someone down in January after the season ended. We're all friends so we don't want to be douche bags about it, but that sucks. worst part of the job if you get people that slow pay or don't pay. I avoid being commissioner/treasurer. Yeah, it's a pain.. our league is basically all guys from my hometown that I went to high school with, this is like a 10 year long standing league so I know everyone very well and even still, we had a guy last year that moved out to California just never pay (we kicked him out) so I got screwed out of 100 bucks last year. And another guy just for whatever reason can never pay on time.. always last minute. He's one of those people who is late for everything and would be late to his own wedding. I guess I can just have everyone send me the money through Venmo/PayPal and I'll just leave it in my account until payouts.

This sounds exactly like my league, lol

In comment 13082909 giants#1 said:

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and in-season management aren't the same as losing a keeper because you missed some last minute injury news.

agree, but my point was you allow the change in keeper if they bring it up in a reasonable amount of time, you don't chase them down to bring them the news and pester them to change keepers.

sometimes you have to let people be their own worst enemies.

$200 budget. Some of the prices for the top guys were outrageous. $68 for Antonio Brown, $69 for Julio Jones, $65 for OBJ just to name a few. Most Rb's went for like 45-50. Anyway I sat back let the big guns go and just focused on landing middle round players. I couldn't bring myself to spending 25% of my budget on a player where 1 play could end his season. I went for depth. RBs prob my weak point as im taking a real gamble on some young guys.

QB - Newton, Mariota
RB - Rawls, Yeldon, Gordon, Abdullah, Ivory
WR - Hilton, Landry, Cobb, Shepard, Rishard Mathews, Fuller
TE - Kelce, Eifert
D- Carolina
K - Tucker

Just a quick text/email along the lines of:

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Hey, did you see that Dion Lewis had another surgery? Do you still want to keep him?

Any decent owner will then look into the injury themselves (if they didn't already) and give you a yes/no reply. And it's better to do it quickly rather than wait until 1-2 days before the draft since the rest of the league may be working on their draft strategies.

In comment 13082970 Giantfootball025 said:

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$200 budget. Some of the prices for the top guys were outrageous. $68 for Antonio Brown, $69 for Julio Jones, $65 for OBJ just to name a few. Most Rb's went for like 45-50. Anyway I sat back let the big guns go and just focused on landing middle round players. I couldn't bring myself to spending 25% of my budget on a player where 1 play could end his season. I went for depth. RBs prob my weak point as im taking a real gamble on some young guys. QB - Newton, Mariota RB - Rawls, Yeldon, Gordon, Abdullah, Ivory WR - Hilton, Landry, Cobb, Shepard, Rishard Mathews, Fuller TE - Kelce, Eifert D- Carolina K - Tucker

I'm not really familiar with what auction drafts look like because I've never done one.. but you're really going to need Rawls to be "the guy" in SEA otherwise you might have a tough time with that RB group. At least you have both Yeldon and Ivory so if one really emerges over the other you won't be screwed. Just a lot of question marks.. you don't have one RB that you know is getting the lions share of the touches. I like to come away with at LEAST one of those.

But again, I really don't know much about auction leagues so this might not be something that is unique to your team.

I'm considering Gronk at 9 overall, let alone 2.8! That's a steal. He's as good as the top notch WR's.

I've had so far. What do people think? Standard non-ppr 12 teams

QB: Brady + Tyrod Taylor
RB: McCoy
RB: Ryan Matthews
WR: Julio Jones
WR: Sammy Watkins
WR: Fitzgerald
TE: Ertz
K: Tucker
DEF: Giants
BN: Kevin White

Stopped there

In comment 13082986 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13082970 Giantfootball025 said: Quote: $200 budget. Some of the prices for the top guys were outrageous. $68 for Antonio Brown, $69 for Julio Jones, $65 for OBJ just to name a few. Most Rb's went for like 45-50. Anyway I sat back let the big guns go and just focused on landing middle round players. I couldn't bring myself to spending 25% of my budget on a player where 1 play could end his season. I went for depth. RBs prob my weak point as im taking a real gamble on some young guys. QB - Newton, Mariota RB - Rawls, Yeldon, Gordon, Abdullah, Ivory WR - Hilton, Landry, Cobb, Shepard, Rishard Mathews, Fuller TE - Kelce, Eifert D- Carolina K - Tucker I'm not really familiar with what auction drafts look like because I've never done one.. but you're really going to need Rawls to be "the guy" in SEA otherwise you might have a tough time with that RB group. At least you have both Yeldon and Ivory so if one really emerges over the other you won't be screwed. Just a lot of question marks.. you don't have one RB that you know is getting the lions share of the touches. I like to come away with at LEAST one of those. But again, I really don't know much about auction leagues so this might not be something that is unique to your team.

Yeah you kind of can go any way with an auction. It's like free agency almost. You have to put a value on guys and either stick to it or pay over for it. I chose to not pay over what I thought a fair price was. I tried weighing overall production in points vs what I'd spend. To me a 50-60 dollar player isn't going to get me 25% or higher point value production so I didn't spend it. It's def different as well seeing some guys with 2 top 10 backs but then having maybe 2 #3 type wr's as their top 2.

In comment 13082996 kash94 said:

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I've had so far. What do people think? Standard non-ppr 12 teams QB: Brady + Tyrod Taylor RB: McCoy RB: Ryan Matthews WR: Julio Jones WR: Sammy Watkins WR: Fitzgerald TE: Ertz K: Tucker DEF: Giants BN: Kevin White Stopped there

You better hope the bills turn into the 99 rams. Way too risky for my liking.

You do your draft(s) yet?

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In comment 13082996 kash94 said: Quote: I've had so far. What do people think? Standard non-ppr 12 teams QB: Brady + Tyrod Taylor RB: McCoy RB: Ryan Matthews WR: Julio Jones WR: Sammy Watkins WR: Fitzgerald TE: Ertz K: Tucker DEF: Giants BN: Kevin White Stopped there You better hope the bills turn into the 99 rams. Way too risky for my liking.

I agree, I try not to have multiple players from one team on my roster but no more then two. With three starters from the Bills (till Brady returns), if they get shut down, that kills your week.

Plus looking at the schedule, Bills have 4 tough defenses during Brady's suspension, so you're starting Taylor, McCoy and Watkins vs....

Week 1 - @ Baltimore
Week 2 - vs Jets
Week 3 - vs Cardinals
Week 4 - @ Patriots

No easy defense in that 4 game span.

But I realize a team may not "look" as good when you take Gronk with an early pick but there's something that's not being considered.

Gronk in the early to middle of the second round is going around where the likes of AJ Green is going. In standard Gronk was obviously the best TE and green was ranked 8. Green scored 4 more points on the season overall. The next best TE (Barnidge) scored nearly 30 points less than Gronk. By comparison, the next best WR after AJ (megatron) scored 14 points less than green. I think something should be said for the incremental value Gronk has over the next best TE compared to WRs going in the same range.

Players you're routinely avoiding @ or around their ADP this year?

I notice that there are certain guys I just don't draft unless they're really sticking out like a sore thumb past their ADP..

Thomas Rawls
Devonta Freeman
Alshon Jeffery
Matt Jones
Duke Johnson
Ryan Mathews
Gio Bernard
Jordan Matthews
Rashad Jennings
Justin Forsett

It's not that I necessarily think these guys won't have value but there are always players I like more around the times they get drafted and never feel like these players are a "good" selection at that point in the draft. A lot of these guys just have red flags for me.

that in many leagues you have to start 2 WR's and can start up to 4 with Flex options (my league is 2 WR and 2 FLEX). I've never seen a league that has any more than 1 mandatory TE slot, so that shifts the importance back on fielding 3-4 good WR's.

I actually did start 2 TE's quite a bit last year with Walker and Watson. My value with them (both FA pickups) is far greater than taking Gronk in the 1st. I'd consider him in the 2nd though since you cannot guarantee a FA acquisition but there's no way i'm taking him over a top tier or even 2nd tier WR (except maybe Dez since I hate his injury history, and would just take Lamar Miller in this scenario).

to duplicate his last year's success without Brady for 4 games, no Vollmer, the addition of Martellus Bennett, Dion Lewis already hurt, Edelman gimpy, and he started 15 games last year which was his most since 2011.

I'm not predicting the demise of Gronk, just I wouldn't pencil him in for last year's production or better.

but who knows, DeAndre Hopkins had the year he did last year with 4 different starting QB's (none good) and without Arian Foster most of the year, so anything can happen.

In comment 13083083 arcarsenal said:

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Players you're routinely avoiding @ or around their ADP this year? I notice that there are certain guys I just don't draft unless they're really sticking out like a sore thumb past their ADP.. Thomas Rawls Devonta Freeman Alshon Jeffery Matt Jones Duke Johnson Ryan Mathews Gio Bernard Jordan Matthews Rashad Jennings Justin Forsett It's not that I necessarily think these guys won't have value but there are always players I like more around the times they get drafted and never feel like these players are a "good" selection at that point in the draft. A lot of these guys just have red flags for me.

Rawls, Freeman, jones, and Jeffrey for me. I actually like Jordan Matthews a lot this year. Was underrated in fantasy last season.

I feel in general that Doug Martin is the consensus guy that people are letting slide. I see him in a lot of "avoid" lists. But he has probably the best handcuff in the league with sims, who was actually a good starter and an ideal flex bye week play. Is Martin the guy people are overthinking by avoiding him? I'm targeting sims regardless of Martin, but because of that I think Martin should be a solid pick?

In comment 13083083 arcarsenal said:

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Players you're routinely avoiding @ or around their ADP this year? I notice that there are certain guys I just don't draft unless they're really sticking out like a sore thumb past their ADP.. Thomas Rawls Devonta Freeman Alshon Jeffery Matt Jones Duke Johnson Ryan Mathews Gio Bernard Jordan Matthews Rashad Jennings Justin Forsett It's not that I necessarily think these guys won't have value but there are always players I like more around the times they get drafted and never feel like these players are a "good" selection at that point in the draft. A lot of these guys just have red flags for me.

Lamar Miller tops the list for me. Too much risk for me as a top 10-12 pick.

In comment 13083072 NYG27 said:

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In comment 13083054 dep026 said: Quote: In comment 13082996 kash94 said: Quote: I've had so far. What do people think? Standard non-ppr 12 teams QB: Brady + Tyrod Taylor RB: McCoy RB: Ryan Matthews WR: Julio Jones WR: Sammy Watkins WR: Fitzgerald TE: Ertz K: Tucker DEF: Giants BN: Kevin White Stopped there You better hope the bills turn into the 99 rams. Way too risky for my liking. I agree, I try not to have multiple players from one team on my roster but no more then two. With three starters from the Bills (till Brady returns), if they get shut down, that kills your week. Plus looking at the schedule, Bills have 4 tough defenses during Brady's suspension, so you're starting Taylor, McCoy and Watkins vs.... Week 1 - @ Baltimore Week 2 - vs Jets Week 3 - vs Cardinals Week 4 - @ Patriots No easy defense in that 4 game span.

This is great insight guys thanks a lot!

In comment 13083094 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13083083 arcarsenal said: Quote: Players you're routinely avoiding @ or around their ADP this year? I notice that there are certain guys I just don't draft unless they're really sticking out like a sore thumb past their ADP.. Thomas Rawls Devonta Freeman Alshon Jeffery Matt Jones Duke Johnson Ryan Mathews Gio Bernard Jordan Matthews Rashad Jennings Justin Forsett It's not that I necessarily think these guys won't have value but there are always players I like more around the times they get drafted and never feel like these players are a "good" selection at that point in the draft. A lot of these guys just have red flags for me. Rawls, Freeman, jones, and Jeffrey for me. I actually like Jordan Matthews a lot this year. Was underrated in fantasy last season. I feel in general that Doug Martin is the consensus guy that people are letting slide. I see him in a lot of "avoid" lists. But he has probably the best handcuff in the league with sims, who was actually a good starter and an ideal flex bye week play. Is Martin the guy people are overthinking by avoiding him? I'm targeting sims regardless of Martin, but because of that I think Martin should be a solid pick?

I actually like Jordan Matthews the player.. it's the knee bruise that I think is going to be one of those lingering things and the fact that their QB situation is going to be weird all year and it's a new offense.. just all these factors make me too wary of taking him. If he does fall a couple rounds below where he's usually drafted, I wouldn't necessarily avoid him completely.

Spencer Ware with Jamaal Charles? In both my leagues Ware is drafted and West is a FA. I think Charles is a good bet to be injured at some point.

Didn't Charcandick West come in last year and do well first when Charles went down?

Also, what happened to Knile Davis? Banished to KR only?

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Spencer Ware with Jamaal Charles? In both my leagues Ware is drafted and West is a FA. I think Charles is a good bet to be injured at some point. Didn't Charcandick West come in last year and do well first when Charles went down? Also, what happened to Knile Davis? Banished to KR only?

Ware was better than West. That's who I would handcuff Charles with as well.

he really doesn't get hurt. It's not like the guy is banged up all the time, he just had 2 major injuries. Of his 8 seasons, he has played in 15 games for 6 seasons.

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but who knows, DeAndre Hopkins had the year he did last year with 4 different starting QB's (none good) and without Arian Foster most of the year, so anything can happen.

Speaking of, am I the only guy not enamored with Hopkins this year? Had him last year and he helped win me a fantasy championship in my friends league... but his garbage time points were off the charts. Houston defense should be really good... i dont think he'll repeat last year's performance especially with what seems like bad feelings with the club over his contract this preseason.

In comment 13083117 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 13083089 pjcas18 said: Quote: but who knows, DeAndre Hopkins had the year he did last year with 4 different starting QB's (none good) and without Arian Foster most of the year, so anything can happen. Speaking of, am I the only guy not enamored with Hopkins this year? Had him last year and he helped win me a fantasy championship in my friends league... but his garbage time points were off the charts. Houston defense should be really good... i dont think he'll repeat last year's performance especially with what seems like bad feelings with the club over his contract this preseason.

The offense should be loads better as well. It's not like it's the Jaguars effect I mean the texans made the playoffs last year.

Standard Leagues - I'd rather select Ware as he's a better runner between the tackles and goal line.

PPR Leagues - I'd rather select West as he's better in pass protection and as a receiver.

Value wise, it all depends on what type of league you're in. Their situation, if Charles got injured, reminds me of a poor man's version of the Bengals RBs with Hill (Ware) and Bernard (West).

In comment 13083112 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13083109 pjcas18 said: Quote: Spencer Ware with Jamaal Charles? In both my leagues Ware is drafted and West is a FA. I think Charles is a good bet to be injured at some point. Didn't Charcandick West come in last year and do well first when Charles went down? Also, what happened to Knile Davis? Banished to KR only? Ware was better than West. That's who I would handcuff Charles with as well.

Not by much (looking at the stats), Ware had a very small sample size and West caught more passes (and was targeted more).

I don't have Charles so I don't really care, I'm not picking up West to handcuff to someone else's RB1 especially if he's not the handcuff.

If he was on a good offense, he'd be in the upper echelon of WR's. He had 111 catches and 11 TD's with arguably a bottom 3 qb situation last year. That says a lot about him.

I'll def target him with my 2nd pick if he's there.

Ware didn't have a huge sample but he averaged 5.6 YPC and scored 6 times on like 70 attempts. West is definitely more of a 3rd down pass catching back. He wasn't as good as a runner... 4 YPC and 4 scores.

I agree, it would probably be similar to a Hill/Bernard scenario. Ware just looked like the better RB to me but yes, if it's a PPR league he's going to lose some value because they didn't use him in the pass game.

In comment 13083119 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13083117 MetsAreBack said: Quote: In comment 13083089 pjcas18 said: Quote: but who knows, DeAndre Hopkins had the year he did last year with 4 different starting QB's (none good) and without Arian Foster most of the year, so anything can happen. Speaking of, am I the only guy not enamored with Hopkins this year? Had him last year and he helped win me a fantasy championship in my friends league... but his garbage time points were off the charts. Houston defense should be really good... i dont think he'll repeat last year's performance especially with what seems like bad feelings with the club over his contract this preseason. The offense should be loads better as well. It's not like it's the Jaguars effect I mean the texans made the playoffs last year.

Not sure what you mean by Jaguars effect. I like JAX's offense this season.

I'm just not a fan of Osweiler either.

Dont get me wrong, solid 2nd round pick... but taking him over Dez, AJ or Julio Jones... I dunno.

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You do your draft(s) yet?

Kid? Geez, I am 35 now. Getting old. Hows your daughter? Any other little ones? As for me, I am still me...haha

Two drafts on the 4th. In my bigger one, I have the 3rd pick and I should get OBJ. Targeting Charles, ARob in the 2nd, hopefully.

We have to keep 4 as they constitute as out first 4 picks. My team was loaded, but decimated by injuries last year - but I had a strong crop coming back. 4 points passing TD, 1 point PPR.

Cam (leading point getter in entire league.)
Charles
Hyde
Cooks
Dez
ARob
Michael Floyd
Eifert
Lockett

Lockett and Floyd I couldnt trade so they will get thrown back in. I traded Hyde and my 4th round pick after keepers for a guys 2nd round pick after keepers. I didnt want to lose him for nothing. I just traded ARob for a guys 1st round pick after keepers giving away another 2nd round pick I had as well.

I had Cooks, robisnon, dez, charles, adn Cam so I didnt want to throw one of them away for nothing and figured I needed a return investment and not many people were biting.

Am I asinine in keeping Floyd over Cam? I really think Floyd is going to have a monster year.

My keepers now are...

Cam
Charles
Cooks
Dez

send me an email(if you don't have it, let me know yours).

over Cam in a 4-keeper league.

Especially if it's 6 pts per passing TD/rushing TD for QB's.

I think Floyd will be good, but not good enough to not keep Cam.

Unless...you can re-draft one of them.

What are the odds of say keeping Floyd and then re-drafting Cam or vice versa?

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send me an email(if you don't have it, let me know yours).

daler2640@gmail.com

or more to the point should I, in a deep 12-team PPR league:

Rob Kelley - WAS
Jordan Howard - CHI
Reggie Bush - BUF
Shaun Draughn - SF
Javorius Allen - BAL
Kenneth Dixon - BAL
Mike Gillislee - BUF
Tyler Gaffney - NE
CJ Prosise - SEA
Charcandick West - KC
Alfred Blue - HOU
Alex Collins - SEA


None of these would be handcuffs for me

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over Cam in a 4-keeper league. Especially if it's 6 pts per passing TD/rushing TD for QB's. I think Floyd will be good, but not good enough to not keep Cam. Unless...you can re-draft one of them. What are the odds of say keeping Floyd and then re-drafting Cam or vice versa?

Its 4 points passing and 6 rushing. Your last question is what I am researching. The first guy is obviously taking Elliot. The next guy has the 2nd/3rd picks. He is keeping Wilson, so I know he wont be a problem. Picks 4-6 are the problem. And people are pretty tight lipped about this kind of things. I am pretty sure I am keeping Cam, and with the 7th pick/10th pick

7th pick - Cobb, Watkins (he wont be protected nor does he have a snowballs chance in hell to get to me.) or even a Moncrief.
10th pick - best RB available. Maybe a Langford, Hill could be available.

or

7th pick - take best RB available.
10th pick - Coleman from the Browns as a future long time keeper at WR.

Really like Floyd this year but I'd keep Cam.

Another Gronk mock... actually really like this one.

Eli
Hyde, DeMarco Murray, Langford, Powell
Beckham, Cooper, Floyd, Sanders, White, Smith Sr
Gronk, Ertz

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or more to the point should I, in a deep 12-team PPR league: Rob Kelley - WAS Jordan Howard - CHI Reggie Bush - BUF Shaun Draughn - SF Javorius Allen - BAL Kenneth Dixon - BAL Mike Gillislee - BUF Tyler Gaffney - NE CJ Prosise - SEA Charcandick West - KC Alfred Blue - HOU Alex Collins - SEA None of these would be handcuffs for me

I'd say Allen and Prosise gun to head. But who knows.

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or more to the point should I, in a deep 12-team PPR league: Rob Kelley - WAS Jordan Howard - CHI Reggie Bush - BUF Shaun Draughn - SF Javorius Allen - BAL Kenneth Dixon - BAL Mike Gillislee - BUF Tyler Gaffney - NE CJ Prosise - SEA Charcandick West - KC Alfred Blue - HOU Alex Collins - SEA None of these would be handcuffs for me

Rob Kelley - WAS
Kelley has a good shot at starting week 1 with Matt Jones injury. Kelley has outplayed drafted rookie Marshall so far in camp.

Jordan Howard - CHI
He was the hot name after the draft to challenge Langford. From what Ive read, he's disappointed a bit and looked lost at times. He was the 4th RB to enter the game in the Bears first preseason game. Has upside in 2017, not so much this year.

Reggie Bush and Mike Gillislee - BUF
No real interest, just a broken down older version of his past self. Can't trust him even if McCoy did get injured. Not a fan of Gillislee either, as I think the rookie RB Williams if the best backup on the Bills.

Shaun Draughn - SF
One of my PPR sleepers at RB. I think he can catch 70-80 passes this year in Chip Kelly's offense.

Javorius Allen and Kenneth Dixon - BAL
Cluttered backfield and have no interest in any of the Ravens RBs this season.

Tyler Gaffney - NE
Injury prone unproven player. Great athlete, as he left college for a year to play professional baseball.

CJ Prosise - SEA
Great dynasty league prospect in PPR leagues but has been hampered by injuries majority of this off season.

Charcandick West - KC
Chiefs backup RB to own if in a PPR league, if standard go with Ware.

Alfred Blue - HOU
Have absolutely zero interest in him even if Miller got injured.

Alex Collins - SEA
Had an opening at real playing time as a rookie with both Rawls and Prosise injured but got outplayed by Christine Michael.

In comment 13083213 NYG27 said:

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In comment 13083182 pjcas18 said: Quote: or more to the point should I, in a deep 12-team PPR league: Rob Kelley - WAS Jordan Howard - CHI Reggie Bush - BUF Shaun Draughn - SF Javorius Allen - BAL Kenneth Dixon - BAL Mike Gillislee - BUF Tyler Gaffney - NE CJ Prosise - SEA Charcandick West - KC Alfred Blue - HOU Alex Collins - SEA None of these would be handcuffs for me Rob Kelley - WAS Kelley has a good shot at starting week 1 with Matt Jones injury. Kelley has outplayed drafted rookie Marshall so far in camp. Jordan Howard - CHI He was the hot name after the draft to challenge Langford. From what Ive read, he's disappointed a bit and looked lost at times. He was the 4th RB to enter the game in the Bears first preseason game. Has upside in 2017, not so much this year. Reggie Bush and Mike Gillislee - BUF No real interest, just a broken down older version of his past self. Can't trust him even if McCoy did get injured. Not a fan of Gillislee either, as I think the rookie RB Williams if the best backup on the Bills. Shaun Draughn - SF One of my PPR sleepers at RB. I think he can catch 70-80 passes this year in Chip Kelly's offense. Javorius Allen and Kenneth Dixon - BAL Cluttered backfield and have no interest in any of the Ravens RBs this season. Tyler Gaffney - NE Injury prone unproven player. Great athlete, as he left college for a year to play professional baseball. CJ Prosise - SEA Great dynasty league prospect in PPR leagues but has been hampered by injuries majority of this off season. Charcandick West - KC Chiefs backup RB to own if in a PPR league, if standard go with Ware. Alfred Blue - HOU Have absolutely zero interest in him even if Miller got injured. Alex Collins - SEA Had an opening at real playing time as a rookie with both Rawls and Prosise injured but got outplayed by Christine Michael.

thanks, I think I'll keep an eye on a couple of them, the next CJ Anderson (of 2015 at least) could be from this list.

In comment 13083143 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 13083119 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: In comment 13083117 MetsAreBack said: Quote: In comment 13083089 pjcas18 said: Quote: but who knows, DeAndre Hopkins had the year he did last year with 4 different starting QB's (none good) and without Arian Foster most of the year, so anything can happen. Speaking of, am I the only guy not enamored with Hopkins this year? Had him last year and he helped win me a fantasy championship in my friends league... but his garbage time points were off the charts. Houston defense should be really good... i dont think he'll repeat last year's performance especially with what seems like bad feelings with the club over his contract this preseason. The offense should be loads better as well. It's not like it's the Jaguars effect I mean the texans made the playoffs last year. Not sure what you mean by Jaguars effect. I like JAX's offense this season. I'm just not a fan of Osweiler either. Dont get me wrong, solid 2nd round pick... but taking him over Dez, AJ or Julio Jones... I dunno.

Well "experts" are expecting a regression in the jags passing game because tons of their production came in garbage time (Bortles had 200 yards and like 3 TDs in the 4th quarter of that patriots game).

I'm not huge on osweiler either but were you that much more of a fan of Hoyer and mallet? At worst i think he's as good as Hoyer. He gave Dtom and Sanders both sound fantasy value.

Only player I'd take over Julio is brown. But I'd take him easily over Dez (for injury concern) and probably over AJ. When was the last time an elite receiver was truly hamstrung by a shitty QB? Hopkins, Josh Gordon, Allen Robinson just off the top of my head had elite fantasy seasons with subpar QB play.

Told by my bosses to be the Commish for our work league and we have 16 players who want to play. I thought about creating two 8 team leagues but the sound of that sucks.

So I'm now forced to create one cluster massive 16 team league.

It's a PPR league and my initial reaction is to make it QB\RB\WR\TE\K\D and 3 FLEX starting positions. With the Flex positions, that should help people field a team rather then being force to player the #3 RB on the Raiders for example.

Also with a 16 team league and the player pool drying up, thinking of only allowing 6 person bench, so people don't stash people and only 15 players per roster and 240 players drafted.

Any thoughts, has anyone played in a 16 team league before?

My draft is Saturday night, I'm pumped. Anyone had any auction league drafts yet?

I'm still shocked that there isn't more in depth material out there yet for auctions in this day and age.

ESPN and yahoo have live mock auctions, but they go to unrealistic shit quickly when people leave and go auto-draft.

If anyone has any favorite materials, I'd be grateful.

In comment 13083308 NYG27 said:

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Told by my bosses to be the Commish for our work league and we have 16 players who want to play. I thought about creating two 8 team leagues but the sound of that sucks. So I'm now forced to create one cluster massive 16 team league. It's a PPR league and my initial reaction is to make it QB\RB\WR\TE\K\D and 3 FLEX starting positions. With the Flex positions, that should help people field a team rather then being force to player the #3 RB on the Raiders for example. Also with a 16 team league and the player pool drying up, thinking of only allowing 6 person bench, so people don't stash people and only 15 players per roster and 240 players drafted. Any thoughts, has anyone played in a 16 team league before?

You say "only" a 6 person bench. In my ten team league we have a 5-person bench, what is standard? 7?

I don't think I'd do a 16-team league (not you, since your boss is forcing you) as a participant. too much luck involved, one major injury and your whole team is derailed.

the waiver pool is pretty dried up.

look at the fantasypros top 240. the names after that are not inspiring.

Zack Zenner, Benny Cunningham, Justin Hardy, how is that fun?

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the waiver pool is pretty dried up. look at the fantasypros top 240. the names after that are not inspiring. Zack Zenner, Benny Cunningham, Justin Hardy, how is that fun?

Good point, I just reduced the bench from 6 to 5 players. That will make 224 players drafted and leave a very minimum talent left on waivers.

in a PPR I would rather have Ingram vs CJ Anderson.

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in a PPR I would rather have Ingram vs CJ Anderson.

I would think anyone would. But they're not being drafted at the same time. I took CJ in the 5th round of that mock, Ingram is always gone by the third.