Just in case you temporarily forgot what a huge Redskins-slobbering twat Joe Theesmann is, here's your latest reminder:
You can’t chat with Theismann without talking about the Redskins, who he believes will win the NFC East this season. Their defense will be led by their newest big-money cornerback, Josh Norman. Norman will get the chance to go up against his rival and smack-talker for the New York Giants, Odell Beckham, Jr.
“Odell is doin' the one talking! Josh is a silent guy,” said Theismann. “He’s a hard-working guy. He signed on a Friday and showed up to work Monday morning for a meeting and hasn’t missed a meeting or a practice since. He’s a very dedicated guy and makes everyone around him better. That’s what leadership is all about.” |
Wow, he showed up to work after he signed his contract and hasn't missed a meeting or practice! What a high standard for leadership!
He says it toward the end of the interview, 14:30 or so. So if you want to hear him say it, you'll have to suffer through this clown's nonsensical rambling, including his thoughts about tattoos.
(He also has nice things to say about Eli, but screw him.)
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No one asked Tiki to be a cheerleader. Tiki couldn't help himself. He went for the dramatics and it back fired ... big time.
"Doin' the one talking"? Is he implying Odell is fucking Norman?
I'm also tired of reading this horseshit on BBI about how easy it is to "get inside Odell's head" or how he has to learn to control himself as if he's football's version of Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.
That's not even remotely close to why so many fans turned on Tiki.
Haha. What?
And were talking about the same Tiki right?
Just way to make sure. Because your post mentions Tikki.
And I could totally see a guy named Tikki being a dikk.
Aside from getting his ass literallty handed to him by OBJ, Norman's next most noteable moments are, in order of humor 1A. Crying like a bitch while losing the Super Bowl 1B. Getting run out of town by his former team 1C. Clamouring for a TV gig and then Joe Theisman praising his quietness.
I'm also tired of reading this horseshit on BBI about how easy it is to "get inside Odell's head" or how he has to learn to control himself as if he's football's version of Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.
To be fair....once is an outlier and twice is a pattern.
People forget the Rams game his rookie year. It wasnt as bad as the Panthers game last year but it was a similar type deal. Let me ask you a question. Would you really be shocked if he had another altercation this Year? I wouldnt
He'll learn to wipe the floor with clowns like Norman silently soon enough. He's a young player. When he gets body slammed after the whistle right of the bat and the warmups include a dodo with a baseball bat on the field, I'm not surprised he popped off.
If OBJ is a worry to a Giants fan, get a load of the offensive line to distract you.
They came into that game looking to shut him down and got embarassed. But that team always plays right on the line of dirty.
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Sherman had nothing but nice things to say about Odell and they exchanged jerseys. He faced Malcolm Butler and there were no fisticuffs, trash talking, or craziness... just hard play from both guys. The idea that anyone with a functioning brain could view someone (Norman) whose QB tried to choke him slightly more than a year ago as a "victim" is ridiculous.
I'm also tired of reading this horseshit on BBI about how easy it is to "get inside Odell's head" or how he has to learn to control himself as if he's football's version of Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.
To be fair....once is an outlier and twice is a pattern.
People forget the Rams game his rookie year. It wasnt as bad as the Panthers game last year but it was a similar type deal. Let me ask you a question. Would you really be shocked if he had another altercation this Year? I wouldnt
The Bills game. Odell disappointed me with his antics that game.
Norman is going to get exposed by a lot less talented WRs than OBJ Skins have about half he talent Carolina has. He's gong to get targeted and not have the those LBs or that DL to help And Keuchly is one of he best 3-5 defensive players in he game. He alone w his coverage abilities helped all the Panther DBs. Norman gets torched more this year than ever before. He's not w even a top 5 CB. Solid starter sure but in man coverage he's below average. Asomugha all over again.
Three head coaches groomed by the scum of the NFL.
They pulled the tender from him because they felt he was going to be too much of a distraction. He kept talking after the SB and his comments were getting increasingly pointed at the Panthers FO. One player used the term "unhinged". I think we are seeing that come into full force now, especially since he's gone to a team with much weaker ownership and overall leadership.
Odell has the edge you need to stay above it all. Opposing teams want him out of the game because he is a Gamechanger. I'd be pissed also, as would anyone here if you knew players were gunning for you. Granted Odell showboats but play clean and don't try and hurt anyone. As someone said above butler and Sherman played clean. Norman and Rams team have not.
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He said at one point he was asked to cut down on his trash talk, but he didn’t because “I’m not fake.”
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WRs would seemingly burn him yet there he is catching up and making plays with his crazy wingspan. It was impressive. Even on Odell's Game-Tying TD, Norman almost gets back after getting dusted by Odell.
But that's the thing. He can't recover against Odell and he knows it and the Giants know it. Odell is gone when he gets in front of you.
Norman could very easily be on a lot of highlights this year for giving up big plays. His recovery style just doesn't seem sustainable, especially on a new team with less talented teammates.
But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.
But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.
Odell was worse overall for sure.
But instigated?
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Instigated and played dirty. I love the kid, and don't hate him for that mistake.
Instigate means to START the altercation.
Pregame, Norman and a Panthers practice squad player wielded a bat and talked trash to Odell. The second snap of the game Norman body-slammed Odell. The argument that Odell lost his cool the most is valid, but to say he instigated doesn't really seem to be correct.
But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.
Keep at it there Radar twin.
But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.
I guess you're not noticing the pattern here with Norman.
Instigated the wrong word, but his point is obvious. How is it contrarian to point out that Beckham was an unhinged piece of shit that day (petulant not just from Norman but from dropping a perfectly thrown TD ball).
All you have to do is imagine he's wearing a green jersey (say, with the #20) in this gif to remove the blue bias and understand that fact:
Depends on your take. Is it worse to take a cheap shot that's dangerous or is it worse to use a baseball bat pregame and then immediately bodyslam the guy because without those two incidents, Odell isn't earholing the jackass.
Norman's behavior led directly to Odell's, not the other way around.
I can see both sides there - and I happen to think both guys are at fault.Not sure how Odell's cheapshot being more dangerous solely makes him the worse dude here, but I can see why others might disagree.
I tend to think the guy being intentionally unhinged while unprovoked is worse than the guy who did it from getting fed up and angry.
When it is all said and done, are you looking at him as a piece of shit (the exact words some used to describe Odell), or do you fully understand why he did it?
Again, that's on the Giants' first possession of the game, fifth play.
The bodyslam came after the dropped would-be touchdown, which no doubt made Beckham salty and petulant. But watch the video: you can see Odell clearly goes to push Norman beyond 5 yards. Norman’s escalation obviously bush league (and not flagged IIRC, right?) but again not one-sided.
Then watch the rest. Norman an asshole, but the two were not close to equally as awful, with the helmet spear – which could have ended both their seasons – sealing it. It was pathetic and embarrassing for the organization (I wonder if that game was when Mara’s mind was fully made up about Coughlin). I wouldn’t have called him a piece of shit, by the way, without it. That’s some next level Brian Dawkins shit.
I love the dude though. Just hope he keeps his head on straight…we’ve seen one after another baller WR who does not.
Norman represents everything that is wrong with today's modern athlete. Literally. If you had a picture/definition of modern day duchebag attention seaking overrated athlete in the dictionary? Norman's pic would be front and center.
The bodyslam came after the dropped would-be touchdown, which no doubt made Beckham salty and petulant. But watch the video: you can see Odell clearly goes to push Norman beyond 5 yards. Norman’s escalation obviously bush league (and not flagged IIRC, right?) but again not one-sided.
Then watch the rest. Norman an asshole, but the two were not close to equally as awful, with the helmet spear – which could have ended both their seasons – sealing it. It was pathetic and embarrassing for the organization (I wonder if that game was when Mara’s mind was fully made up about Coughlin). I wouldn’t have called him a piece of shit, by the way, without it. That’s some next level Brian Dawkins shit.
I love the dude though. Just hope he keeps his head on straight…we’ve seen one after another baller WR who does not.
It's a running play and Beckham went to block him.
And no, Norman was somehow not flagged on that play despite his bodyslam coming well after the whistle.
That side judge (who looked RIGHT AT the body slam) really had control of the situation there, didn't he? Even before the slam, Beckham was waving for attention from officials, like, "Look at this! Call something!" And THEN the body slam occurred!
If that didn't warrant a flag, why exactly does the side judge carry a flag at all?
The bodyslam came after the dropped would-be touchdown, which no doubt made Beckham salty and petulant. But watch the video: you can see Odell clearly goes to push Norman beyond 5 yards. Norman’s escalation obviously bush league (and not flagged IIRC, right?) but again not one-sided...
WTF are you talking about? It's a RUNNING PLAY. ODELL HAD EVERY RIGHT TO BLOCK Norman beyond 5 yards from the LOS. Norman, on the other hand, was in flagrant violation of the rules by body slamming OBJ to the ground - after the play was likely whistled dead and in plain view of the refs.
Norman not only should have been flagged on the play, and not OBJ whose block was 100% within the rules, he should have been ejected from the game.
Check the rulebook 99% sure I got this one. And you are dead wrong.
And no, Norman was somehow not flagged on that play despite his bodyslam coming well after the whistle.
You're right. My bad...I watched like 12 clips of their back & forth and mixed it up with another. That's all on Norman for sure.
FER CRISSAKES!
This is the video I watched before posting. There are 10+ altercations, big & small, and I was watching Beckham/Norman, not the LOS so I missed the running play. All on Norman there for sure, as I amended above.
Which I didn't see that you owned up was incorrect when I posted.
Chill.
And didint that play come after Beckham lined him up and launched at his head with the crown? Not the play he was tossed for but another one. On a deep pattern., Beckham ran up to him and launched head first into his face mask.
Beckham was out of control in that game. Nothing, including the pretend stuff, talking, or that body slam justifies any of it.
He has to clean it up. It wasnt just CAR or Norman.
The only things that preceded the bodyslam was that dropped pass and brandishment of a baseball bat pre-game.
And didint that play come after Beckham lined him up and launched at his head with the crown?
Please! Stop!
http://thebiglead.com/2015/12/20/josh-norman-odell-beckham-body-slam/
Which I didn't see that you owned up was incorrect when I posted.
Chill.
All good. Realistically it was probably 60/40 Beckham/Norman and (corrected I stand), the Norman body slam was first and all him.
Until the helmet spear. That's when I lost, even now watching clips, all sympathy for OBJ. It was pathetic...reminds me so much of Brian Dawkins.*
Really it's out of concern for Beckham why he should be called out for this shit (and why Coughlin really failed the Giants that day by not doing so). 3 things can stop this guy from being an all-time great player. Not just WR, player:
1) injury (obviously and God forbid)
2) shitty QB after Eli (and even then, Fitzgerald has managed a great career)
3) Odell Beckham. Jerry Rice was Jerry Rice for reasons beyond his pure talent. Absurd dedication to fitness and a humble head on his shoulders were a huge part of his success. I really believe Beckham can finish 2nd all-time in reception yards. But keeping his head on straight is paramount.
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That game changer convinced me coaching change was needed.
Beckhams reply is to target a guy with his crown.
FMIC, the body slam was nothing. Beckham took it to another level. Not the first time. In Buffalo he ran up to a guy and punched him in the back of the head. He should have been ejected. Can't have our best player stepping over the line. Players will come after him. He has to get a handle on his response.
"Weak bodyslam" that you see all the time. Sure. I see that happen several times a game. I kid of course. The last time I saw one was Charles Martin slamming Jim McMahon to the ground in 1986.
In fact, I saw a few firsts that game. The first time a practice player is allowed to wield a bat to taunt in an opposing stadium, and one of the only times you'll see a bodyslam go unflagged.
Odell earholing Norman was a dirty play of course. Not sure why Norman's actions are being minimized however. Both guys lost their col, yet in the immediate aftermath of that game, only one was called a piece of shit repeatedly.
I think it is bearing out now who is living up to the snub...
Notmans body slam was weak. He dropped him. Didn't slam him down. It was nothing. Beckham threw punches and used the crown twice on a guy not looking at him. The last time he lined him up and ran several yards at him. That's why Beckham gets more abuse. He earned it.
If the roles were reversed you would be all over the guy who used the crown and targeted the other player.
I'd also acknowledge that if our player instigated it, he'd be at fault.
I can still think both players are at fault without going to lengths and using ridiculous disclaimers like it was a weak bodyslam to minimize the discussion.
I've said a number of times that Odell's hit was dirty and he deserved a suspension. But there's also a specific reason why he did it and it wasn't that Norman just happened to be in a random crowd and rage overcame Odell to try and knock out the first person he saw.
Not recognizing that both players were dirty is strange. Almost as if you are going out of your way to absolve Norman from doing anything than playing football. But that's sort of par for the course.
Beckham is a generational talent and we all want to see him just be the best player he can be for the Giants for as long as possible. This kind of shit doesn't help that long term goal.
He put his hands up, didn't use his feet, and let it happen. The slam was nothing.
Norman is a punk and I can't wait to see him exposed this season.
Shouldn't these bodyslams that happen often be recalled pretty easily? Maybe Andre johnson bodyslammed that fuck Finnegan (another Panther last year), but I'm not even sure of that. Surely, this common practice should be able to be referenced immediately, yet I had to go back to 1986 to remember one.
But maybe it wasn't a bodyslam at all. I mean given the description of a weak one where Odell let him do it, I'd almost argue that Odell threw himself at Norman causing the poor guy to grab on and gently fall to the ground with the writhing maniac in his arms.
Here's a recent one. It got DJ Fluker a 15 yard penalty.
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I mean I hear it's pretty damn common....
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#55 obviously didn't keep his feet under him. Otherwise he never would have went down. lol
But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.
Haha, if only that could be true for Fast Eddie's Dipshit.
He didnt instigate it. While totally at fault, you have to be a dipshit to think ODB instigated that confrontation. But then again, look at the poster Im referencing.
Spearing to the earhole, which can paralyze or worse someone, is not the answer. We all know that. But the refs lost control of that game in the worst way.
Kevin - I am surprised you think the body slam was "nothing." It should have drawn a penalty, most clearly, IMO.