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Theesmann: “Odell is the one talking. Josh is a silent guy."

Mr. Bungle : 8/23/2016 5:49 pm
Just in case you temporarily forgot what a huge Redskins-slobbering twat Joe Theesmann is, here's your latest reminder:

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You can’t chat with Theismann without talking about the Redskins, who he believes will win the NFC East this season. Their defense will be led by their newest big-money cornerback, Josh Norman. Norman will get the chance to go up against his rival and smack-talker for the New York Giants, Odell Beckham, Jr.

“Odell is doin' the one talking! Josh is a silent guy,” said Theismann. “He’s a hard-working guy. He signed on a Friday and showed up to work Monday morning for a meeting and hasn’t missed a meeting or a practice since. He’s a very dedicated guy and makes everyone around him better. That’s what leadership is all about.”

Wow, he showed up to work after he signed his contract and hasn't missed a meeting or practice! What a high standard for leadership!

He says it toward the end of the interview, 14:30 or so. So if you want to hear him say it, you'll have to suffer through this clown's nonsensical rambling, including his thoughts about tattoos.

(He also has nice things to say about Eli, but screw him.)

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WTF?  
AP in Halfmoon : 8/23/2016 5:50 pm : link
CTC?
WTF?  
AP in Halfmoon : 8/23/2016 5:51 pm : link
CTC?
How is Odell doing the talkig  
BillT : 8/23/2016 5:53 pm : link
When it was Norman making statements about him today?
need to send LT  
micky : 8/23/2016 5:54 pm : link
to break the other leg
LT didn't obliterate my leg!  
B in ALB : 8/23/2016 5:56 pm : link
I broke my own leg!


- j theesman
That's some serious denial right there...  
okiegiant : 8/23/2016 6:03 pm : link
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I almost feel sorry for Norman  
djm : 8/23/2016 6:05 pm : link
almost. Obj is going to skull fuck Norman this season. I have little doubt that beckham will have the last laugh. For starters Beckham is just an incredibly driven bad ass football player and he had steps on Norman last season but just had an off game and lastly, despite some splits lately the Giants always get over on the skins. It's how the NFL works. Norman will provide the perfect footnote to another story of the Giants obliterating the skins.
RE: I almost feel sorry for Norman  
Randy in CT : 8/23/2016 6:08 pm : link
In comment 13083464 djm said:
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almost. Obj is going to skull fuck Norman this season. I have little doubt that beckham will have the last laugh. For starters Beckham is just an incredibly driven bad ass football player and he had steps on Norman last season but just had an off game and lastly, despite some splits lately the Giants always get over on the skins. It's how the NFL works. Norman will provide the perfect footnote to another story of the Giants obliterating the skins.
I have zero doubt that OBJ would let any player get in his head again. My take is that he was incredibly embarrassed and filed it away as a learning experience that won't happen again. I agree that he will obliterate a number of DBs this season including JN.
And yet  
joeinpa : 8/23/2016 8:13 pm : link
We hate Tikki because he wasn t a cheerleader for the Giants
Odell.  
Boy Cord : 8/23/2016 8:29 pm : link
Take the high road!! Let Norman hang himself.
RE: And yet  
Boy Cord : 8/23/2016 8:31 pm : link
In comment 13083552 joeinpa said:
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We hate Tikki because he wasn t a cheerleader for the Giants


No one asked Tiki to be a cheerleader. Tiki couldn't help himself. He went for the dramatics and it back fired ... big time.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/23/2016 8:49 pm : link
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“Odell is doin' the one talking! Josh is a silent guy,” said Theismann.


"Doin' the one talking"? Is he implying Odell is fucking Norman?
Odell faced Richard Sherman and after the game,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/23/2016 8:57 pm : link
Sherman had nothing but nice things to say about Odell and they exchanged jerseys. He faced Malcolm Butler and there were no fisticuffs, trash talking, or craziness... just hard play from both guys. The idea that anyone with a functioning brain could view someone (Norman) whose QB tried to choke him slightly more than a year ago as a "victim" is ridiculous.

I'm also tired of reading this horseshit on BBI about how easy it is to "get inside Odell's head" or how he has to learn to control himself as if he's football's version of Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.
Losing the Easy Catch  
Spike13 : 8/23/2016 9:11 pm : link
Is what rocked Odell. He had three steps on Norman, & let the hyperbole take over. There is no CB that can cover Odell, when he is in his stride. I would love to see how he would've performed against Sanders. I also believe McADoo, has played it close to the hip, although I'd like to see more of our Steeler FA incorporated.
RE: And yet  
Chris in Philly : 8/23/2016 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13083552 joeinpa said:
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We hate Tikki because he wasn t a cheerleader for the Giants


That's not even remotely close to why so many fans turned on Tiki.
RE: And yet  
B in ALB : 8/23/2016 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13083552 joeinpa said:
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We hate Tikki because he wasn t a cheerleader for the Giants



Haha. What?

And were talking about the same Tiki right?

Just way to make sure. Because your post mentions Tikki.

And I could totally see a guy named Tikki being a dikk.
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christian : 8/23/2016 9:38 pm : link
OBJ is the far superior, far more intelligent, far more famous, and far more valuable player.

Aside from getting his ass literallty handed to him by OBJ, Norman's next most noteable moments are, in order of humor 1A. Crying like a bitch while losing the Super Bowl 1B. Getting run out of town by his former team 1C. Clamouring for a TV gig and then Joe Theisman praising his quietness.
RE: Odell faced Richard Sherman and after the game,  
ThatLimerickGuy : 8/23/2016 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13083592 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Sherman had nothing but nice things to say about Odell and they exchanged jerseys. He faced Malcolm Butler and there were no fisticuffs, trash talking, or craziness... just hard play from both guys. The idea that anyone with a functioning brain could view someone (Norman) whose QB tried to choke him slightly more than a year ago as a "victim" is ridiculous.

I'm also tired of reading this horseshit on BBI about how easy it is to "get inside Odell's head" or how he has to learn to control himself as if he's football's version of Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.


To be fair....once is an outlier and twice is a pattern.

People forget the Rams game his rookie year. It wasnt as bad as the Panthers game last year but it was a similar type deal. Let me ask you a question. Would you really be shocked if he had another altercation this Year? I wouldnt
What did Odell do in the Rams game  
Mr. Bungle : 8/23/2016 10:00 pm : link
other than scorch them and let them know he was scorching them?
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christian : 8/23/2016 10:14 pm : link
The only pattern I see is OBJ dropping the hurt on head game losers like Jeff Fischer and Josh Norman. And then getting on perfectly with tough competitors like Richard Sherman and Bill Belichick.

He'll learn to wipe the floor with clowns like Norman silently soon enough. He's a young player. When he gets body slammed after the whistle right of the bat and the warmups include a dodo with a baseball bat on the field, I'm not surprised he popped off.

If OBJ is a worry to a Giants fan, get a load of the offensive line to distract you.
RE: What did Odell do in the Rams game  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/23/2016 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13083663 Mr. Bungle said:
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other than scorch them and let them know he was scorching them?


They came into that game looking to shut him down and got embarassed. But that team always plays right on the line of dirty.
RE: RE: Odell faced Richard Sherman and after the game,  
2ndroundKO : 8/23/2016 11:01 pm : link
In comment 13083659 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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In comment 13083592 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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Sherman had nothing but nice things to say about Odell and they exchanged jerseys. He faced Malcolm Butler and there were no fisticuffs, trash talking, or craziness... just hard play from both guys. The idea that anyone with a functioning brain could view someone (Norman) whose QB tried to choke him slightly more than a year ago as a "victim" is ridiculous.

I'm also tired of reading this horseshit on BBI about how easy it is to "get inside Odell's head" or how he has to learn to control himself as if he's football's version of Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.



To be fair....once is an outlier and twice is a pattern.

People forget the Rams game his rookie year. It wasnt as bad as the Panthers game last year but it was a similar type deal. Let me ask you a question. Would you really be shocked if he had another altercation this Year? I wouldnt

The Bills game. Odell disappointed me with his antics that game.
They were actively headhunting in that game too.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/23/2016 11:02 pm : link
You had guys flying in helmet first in that Rams game trying to put him down over the middle. It was nonsense.
RE: I almost feel sorry for Norman  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/23/2016 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13083464 djm said:
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almost. Obj is going to skull fuck Norman this season. I have little doubt that beckham will have the last laugh. For starters Beckham is just an incredibly driven bad ass football player and he had steps on Norman last season but just had an off game and lastly, despite some splits lately the Giants always get over on the skins. It's how the NFL works. Norman will provide the perfect footnote to another story of the Giants obliterating the skins.


Norman is going to get exposed by a lot less talented WRs than OBJ Skins have about half he talent Carolina has. He's gong to get targeted and not have the those LBs or that DL to help And Keuchly is one of he best 3-5 defensive players in he game. He alone w his coverage abilities helped all the Panther DBs. Norman gets torched more this year than ever before. He's not w even a top 5 CB. Solid starter sure but in man coverage he's below average. Asomugha all over again.
Even the soft spoken Andre Johnson said  
OBJ_AllDay : 8/23/2016 11:45 pm : link
Enough is enough with cortland finnegan. Your not going to let another player take away your manhood out there on the field. I personally love that Odell gives it back instead of taking on the role of the kid getting bullied. You want to play dirty? Then be prepared for a guy who's going to come back and give it right back to you. The Charles Oakley, Brandon Jacobs etc mentality.
I tune out Joe Theisman  
Gregorio : 8/23/2016 11:46 pm : link
every time he talks. Been doing so for years. He's so obviously biased towards the Skins and against the Giants. It's hard to take him seriously.
OBJ Allday  
Walt in MD : 8/24/2016 8:42 am : link
you can play aggressively without losing your mind. He basically lost two games last year because of his "you play dirty, I'll play dirty" style that you seem to support.
Hmmmmm.....let's see here  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 9:00 am : link
The Rams, the Bills, the Panthers....what's the common thread linking those three teams together here?







Three head coaches groomed by the scum of the NFL.


saw this morning that Norman  
UConn4523 : 8/24/2016 9:02 am : link
based Goodell publicly and called him a dog. I wonder what Theisman things about that one...
I m,ade a few comments.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/24/2016 9:07 am : link
last year that Norman was rubbing his teammates the wrong way last year, especially as their winning streak got longer. They were upset that every week he'd seek out reporters and start talking smack to the next opponent or saying things like he's the best CB in the game. Both coaches and team leaders pulled him aside and that didn't work, and the entire run up to the SB was a shitshow of him running his mouth.

They pulled the tender from him because they felt he was going to be too much of a distraction. He kept talking after the SB and his comments were getting increasingly pointed at the Panthers FO. One player used the term "unhinged". I think we are seeing that come into full force now, especially since he's gone to a team with much weaker ownership and overall leadership.
Has Theismann picked the Redskins to win the Super Bowl  
Bramton1 : 8/24/2016 9:11 am : link
and Kirk Cousins to win MVP? If not, he's clearly off his game.
Someone needs to get Theismann to autograph a copy of Norman's  
Bramton1 : 8/24/2016 9:25 am : link
ESPN The Mag cover story. You know, since Norman is such a silent guy.
Don't understand  
Fish : 8/24/2016 9:26 am : link
How Giant fans can throw Odell under bus by practically saying Odell has it coming to him or you can almost guarantee Odell will blow up.

Odell has the edge you need to stay above it all. Opposing teams want him out of the game because he is a Gamechanger. I'd be pissed also, as would anyone here if you knew players were gunning for you. Granted Odell showboats but play clean and don't try and hurt anyone. As someone said above butler and Sherman played clean. Norman and Rams team have not.
Yeah Norman is a silent guy  
Jay on the Island : 8/24/2016 9:37 am : link
Except here where tries to rip Demaryius Thomas.
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Oh and this  
Jay on the Island : 8/24/2016 9:39 am : link
“They kind of shunned me,” he said. “They turned down a lot of stuff for me, interviews, sponsorship deals, stuff I didn’t even know about. They wanted it to be about the two main guys, Cam [Newton] and Luke [Kuechly].”

He said at one point he was asked to cut down on his trash talk, but he didn’t because “I’m not fake.”
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his 2015 was the best  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/24/2016 10:14 am : link
"gets beat but recovers incredibly well" seasons I've seen from a CB.

WRs would seemingly burn him yet there he is catching up and making plays with his crazy wingspan. It was impressive. Even on Odell's Game-Tying TD, Norman almost gets back after getting dusted by Odell.

But that's the thing. He can't recover against Odell and he knows it and the Giants know it. Odell is gone when he gets in front of you.

Norman could very easily be on a lot of highlights this year for giving up big plays. His recovery style just doesn't seem sustainable, especially on a new team with less talented teammates.
Theisman  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/24/2016 10:14 am : link
isn't a smart guy. Been known for a long time now.
Odell was the bad guy in their match up  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/24/2016 10:29 am : link
Instigated and played dirty. I love the kid, and don't hate him for that mistake.

But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.
Look out Joe!  
trueblueinpw : 8/24/2016 10:33 am : link
RE: Odell was the bad guy in their match up  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/24/2016 10:34 am : link
In comment 13084089 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Instigated and played dirty. I love the kid, and don't hate him for that mistake.

But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.


Odell was worse overall for sure.

But instigated?
C'mon..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/24/2016 10:38 am : link
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Odell was the bad guy in their match up
Mike in Long Beach : 10:29 am : link : reply
Instigated and played dirty. I love the kid, and don't hate him for that mistake.


Instigate means to START the altercation.

Pregame, Norman and a Panthers practice squad player wielded a bat and talked trash to Odell. The second snap of the game Norman body-slammed Odell. The argument that Odell lost his cool the most is valid, but to say he instigated doesn't really seem to be correct.
It really doesnt matter  
Walt in MD : 8/24/2016 10:43 am : link
who started it. We all agree that both went way over the line that game. ODB lost control, had a bad game, and gave us a smaller chance to win. He was then suspended for a game. Bottom line, that can't happen ever again.
RE: Odell was the bad guy in their match up  
djm : 8/24/2016 11:00 am : link
In comment 13084089 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Instigated and played dirty. I love the kid, and don't hate him for that mistake.

But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.


Keep at it there Radar twin.
RE: Odell was the bad guy in their match up  
arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 11:14 am : link
In comment 13084089 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Instigated and played dirty. I love the kid, and don't hate him for that mistake.

But BBI's interpretation that both parties were equally at fault kills me every time.


I guess you're not noticing the pattern here with Norman.
I think if I could be afforded one ideal heckle moment in my life  
djm : 8/24/2016 11:18 am : link
I'd want it to be used on Joe Theesman. I mean the guy had a good career --he's won a super bowl and all that. He's got nothing to be ashamed of but man, he's an easy target.
I was just "enlightened" this week  
micky : 8/24/2016 11:30 am : link
is that one claiming that other's can't "interpret" what "instigate" means, can't "interpret" what the word "instigate" means themselves, in this case.
Norman was the instigator  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 11:34 am : link
Doesn't absolve OBJ for not being focused enough to keep his cool and only worry about beating him on the field, but you've gotta be kidding me with the notion that Norman didn't take the field with the intention of doing the usual Buddy Ryan intimidation tactics.
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Overseer : 8/24/2016 11:44 am : link
In comment 13084150 djm said:
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Keep at it there Radar twin.

Instigated the wrong word, but his point is obvious. How is it contrarian to point out that Beckham was an unhinged piece of shit that day (petulant not just from Norman but from dropping a perfectly thrown TD ball).

All you have to do is imagine he's wearing a green jersey (say, with the #20) in this gif to remove the blue bias and understand that fact:

His point was that..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/24/2016 11:52 am : link
he's having a problem seeing how people can say the two players are equally at fault.

Depends on your take. Is it worse to take a cheap shot that's dangerous or is it worse to use a baseball bat pregame and then immediately bodyslam the guy because without those two incidents, Odell isn't earholing the jackass.

Norman's behavior led directly to Odell's, not the other way around.

I can see both sides there - and I happen to think both guys are at fault.Not sure how Odell's cheapshot being more dangerous solely makes him the worse dude here, but I can see why others might disagree.

I tend to think the guy being intentionally unhinged while unprovoked is worse than the guy who did it from getting fed up and angry.
And since we are discussing bias..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/24/2016 11:54 am : link
let's say your child has been bullied over and over again. Books slapped away, lunch stolen, pushed around on the playground. Then he ends up hauling off and hitting the dude.

When it is all said and done, are you looking at him as a piece of shit (the exact words some used to describe Odell), or do you fully understand why he did it?
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