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XBRONX : 8/23/2016 7:26 pm
The Rangers will be announcing the signing of a player soon. I have inside source, so I cant mention name yet. I will just tell you he is a 25 years old forward with a nice upside.
You have to give more than  
Jon in NYC : 8/23/2016 7:28 pm : link
"25 years old".
Okay  
XBRONX : 8/23/2016 7:30 pm : link
Jon just for you. And this is all I will add. A lefthanded shooting center.
Thanks buddy  
Jon in NYC : 8/23/2016 7:31 pm : link
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Looking at the  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 8/23/2016 7:32 pm : link
available list off ESPN Gabriel Bourque or Brandon Pirri are the only names to stand out to me.

Pirri I think would be a great depth signing. 14 goals and 15 assists last year, and 22 goals two years ago with Florida.

If true, great work by Gorton. The more Glass gets pushed off the roster.
That clue would eliminate Bourque  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 8/23/2016 7:33 pm : link
haha. I'm really hoping it's Pirri. That would be a nice depth signing.
Pirri fits the bill.  
arcarsenal : 8/23/2016 7:42 pm : link
I hope it's him.
How reliable is your source?  
arcarsenal : 8/23/2016 7:44 pm : link
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Because...you know..  
arcarsenal : 8/23/2016 7:45 pm : link
brunswick told he had not one.. but two "sources" confirm that Jimmy Vesey was a Devil.. and we all know how that turned out.
If true  
MetsAreBack : 8/23/2016 7:51 pm : link
means Lindberg either becomes expendable, or they think he won't do much this year coming off the major injury.

What'd make me really happy is we sign Pirri and banish Glass to the AHL on the same day. You have to take this toy away from AV. Keeping him around is too tempting for the coach.
They already have a better version of Pirri  
Davisian : 8/23/2016 8:11 pm : link
His name is Hrivik

Pierre would be a great low-risk, high-reward signing  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 8:41 pm : link
And this also leads me to believe that someone (ahem Rick Nash. Better not be Zucc) will get traded
*Pirri  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 8:41 pm : link
Fucking autocorrect. Can he change his last name please?
What do you base that on Davidson?  
MetsAreBack : 8/23/2016 8:44 pm : link
They are the same age, one plays center the other wing, and one guy has 80 points in 166 career NHL games the other 1 point in 5 games.

Normally I enjoy your shiny rants ... But Pirri isn't shiny. He'd cost under a mil.
I also like Nick Jensen, but the more competition, the better  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 8:47 pm : link
I wonder if Fast gets traded now. He's an AV favorite and a real asset as a bottom six guy, but perhaps coupling him with Nash can fetch us that top 6 PMD RD that we so desperately need.




Or SOMEONE CAN FUCKING TAKE STAAL OR GIRARDI OFF OUR HANDS. PLEASE!!??!?!
Not  
Giantfootball025 : 8/23/2016 8:48 pm : link
on the trade Nash wagon yet. Guy still can score and has played some great 2 way hockey for us. Granted his contract is big, but if he socres 30-40 and plays D the way he has been he's worth it for now. Pirri has intrigued me since the last trade deadline, but why does he bounce around so much? He seems like a perfect 4th line center who can net some goals.
Nash plus Fast  
MetsAreBack : 8/23/2016 8:51 pm : link
Better get you a cost controlled all star in his prime back Anak.

Contrary to the opinions of some, Nash has a metric ton of value to teams that know what they're doing. Straight up for shattenkirk I'm not sure the rangers are getting fair value

Through a valuable asset like fast in there too.... Kucherov or Drouin better be coming back our way.
I hope we make Pirri a W  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 8:56 pm : link
I never heard of Josh Jooris before we signed him, but the more I read about him, the more I think he can be what we all wanted Dominic Moore to be.
RE: Nash plus Fast  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13083585 MetsAreBack said:
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Better get you a cost controlled all star in his prime back Anak.

Contrary to the opinions of some, Nash has a metric ton of value to teams that know what they're doing. Straight up for shattenkirk I'm not sure the rangers are getting fair value

Through a valuable asset like fast in there too.... Kucherov or Drouin better be coming back our way.



I would definitely do that though. Nash, Fast, Marc Staal and Tanner Glass (because I need to throw him in) for like Shattenkirk and Joni Lehtera would be fine in my book.



If they can get Trouba, it would be amazing. Trouba is still unsigned
Only way Pirri makes sense  
bigbluehoya : 8/23/2016 9:10 pm : link
Is if there's a trade on the table to move F asset(s) for D.

Either way, AV will once again have an opportunity to roll 4 legitimate lines that can play, which I'm sure he will unceremoniously decline.
I think they should trade  
Phil in LA : 8/23/2016 9:33 pm : link
Nash.
I think it really depends what the return is.  
arcarsenal : 8/23/2016 9:44 pm : link
I want Shattenkirk but not as a 1 year rental. The last thing I want to do is move Nash and then realize halfway into the season that we don't have enough scoring punch. I do think if we add Pirri that it makes the odds of moving a FWD pretty likely... just not sure I'd be in such a rush to unload Nash.
Obviously the return  
Phil in LA : 8/23/2016 9:46 pm : link
Has to make sense, but I feel like having designated scorers has stunted development for the kids and lead to too many extra passes.
They certainly have quantity  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 9:58 pm : link
But they sorely lack a #1 RD. Klein is perfect as a second pair guy and McIlrath can give them minutes as a third pair guy with the potential to be a second pair guy. Girardi is limited to the third pair only unfortunately.


They also lack a PMD/PP QB. God help us if it's McDonagh leading the rush. Shattenkirk or Trouba would be amazing.
Buy low sell high  
JPinstripes : 8/23/2016 9:59 pm : link
Nash is not going to fetch a good value in return, plus he is still the best forward on the team and can bounce back this year if healthy.

The guy to sell is Zucc as he would fetch a very good haul in return coming off his best season.
Fuck no to trading Zucc  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 10:04 pm : link
He's the heart and soul of this team. His production on the ice and his leadership off the ice is indispensable. A 60 point guy at his salary is very valuable that I would have to be bowled over by any offer to trade him.

The way I would rank the RW:

1) Zucc
2) Miller
3) Nash
I wouldn't trade Zucc  
djm : 8/23/2016 10:08 pm : link
Whatever realistic piece you get back wouldn't out perform him.
Nash is the best winger on the team  
JPinstripes : 8/23/2016 10:08 pm : link
and understood on the sentiment regarding trading Zucc Anakim.

My point is buy low / sell high and a trade with Zucc could return a very nice haul.
I just don't see any reason that Zucc will slow down  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 10:11 pm : link
He seems to be only getting better. I agree that Nash is the bigger threat, but he's also older and has a wayyyyyy bigger cap number.
Regarding Pirri:  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 10:14 pm : link
"Sportsnet has Pirri in their top 4 bargain UFA signings, and some advanced stat they have come up with suggests hes in the top 10 NHL shooters over the past 3 seasons."


Well, we could use shooters, but that's a bit of a one-trick pony, no?
RE: What do you base that on Davidson?  
Davisian : 8/23/2016 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13083579 MetsAreBack said:
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They are the same age, one plays center the other wing, and one guy has 80 points in 166 career NHL games the other 1 point in 5 games.

Normally I enjoy your shiny rants ... But Pirri isn't shiny. He'd cost under a mil.


It's not a hill I'd die on, but while Pirri has the experience, he's also been the beneficiary on his pedigree.

One was drafted in the second, one was undrafted.

Pirri bounced around, put up numbers at lower levels and couldn't stick with the Blackhawks, went to Florida and played some decent hockey in his role.

Hrivik went undrafted, got better each year for Hartford and atually played Center there last year to some pretty good chemistry with Jensen.


This isn't shiny chasing, it's roster muddlin'.. They've developed Hrivik. He can play each fwd position, he's cheap, he's big, skilled (as far as AHL numbers go) and he's been counted on for all situations on the very team that's actually there to develop players that will fit on the varsity team.


Maybe he's not good enough for that next step, but I'd rather find that out after giving him a chance than bringing in another player with the same valuation at this point. (Pirri is unsigned at this point for a reason)







This assist...  
BC Eagles94 : 8/23/2016 10:25 pm : link
probably got 25 mixed up with 23, and he's talking about Jimmy Vesey. Only a few days late!
*asshat  
BC Eagles94 : 8/23/2016 10:30 pm : link
nm
Still  
Giantfootball025 : 8/23/2016 10:39 pm : link
waiting for the D move. Depending on what they do it could be the difference between us being contenders or pretenders.
Gotta agree with Dav  
Kyle in NY : 8/23/2016 10:40 pm : link
we've proven to have a pretty good player development system. Let's see what we've got with some of these kids, even the unsung ones. Pirri isn't moving the needle for me.
Pirri would be a poor 4th line option  
Anakim : 8/23/2016 11:17 pm : link
My guess is he's the 13th F, which hopefully spells the end of Seor Glass
Jiri Hudler to the Stars for one year, two million  
Anakim : 8/24/2016 12:00 am : link
GREAT value there.
I wonder if they can make a trade for Jacob Trouba  
Anakim : 8/24/2016 1:33 pm : link
He doesn't seem to be any closer to signing a deal with the Jets.




Problem is, Rick Nash has all the Canadian teams on his no trade list. SETH. Now do you see why NTC matter?
RE: I wonder if they can make a trade for Jacob Trouba  
Davisian : 8/24/2016 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13084482 Anakim said:
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He doesn't seem to be any closer to signing a deal with the Jets.




Problem is, Rick Nash has all the Canadian teams on his no trade list. SETH. Now do you see why NTC matter?



Says the guy who splooged all over his keyboard when they signed Rick Nash..

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arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 2:21 pm : link
Sooooo... what constitutes as "soon"..

Would you say the deal is.. imminent?
arc  
Drewcon40 : 8/24/2016 2:28 pm : link
you're Vesey to the Devils comment had me laughing. In fact when my buddy texted me that the Rangers signed him, I "googled" Jimmy Vesey and Wikipedia had him on the Devils. I took a snap on my iPhone and thought about brunswick.
RE: .  
Mad Mike : 8/24/2016 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13084611 arcarsenal said:
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Sooooo... what constitutes as "soon"..

Would you say the deal is.. imminent?

The player in question is a big Anthony Davis fan. As soon as his trade here is finalized, this guy will sign to come to Broadway. Have patience, it's just a matter of the dominoes falling.
So we kind of did sign a lefty C (who is 26, not 25)  
Anakim : 8/24/2016 2:37 pm : link
Wolf Pack general manager Jim Schoenfeld announced today that the Wolf Pack has signed forward Philip McRae to an AHL contract.

A veteran of six pro seasons, the 6-2, 201-pound McRae spent this past year with the AHLs Bakersfield Condors, skating in 35 games and registering nine goals and six assists for 15 points, along with 33 penalty minutes.

A second-round (33rd overall) NHL draft pick by the St. Louis Blues in 2008, McRae suited up for 15 NHL games with the Blues in his rookie season of 2010-11, and contributed one goal and two assists. The 26-year-old Apple Valley, MN native has logged 264 career AHL contests with the Peoria Rivermen, Chicago Wolves and the Condors, amassing totals of 66 goals and 65 assists for 131 points, plus 122 PIM. He also spent one season, the 2013-14 campaign, playing in Finlands top league, the SM-liiga. McRae split that year between Tappara Tampere and the Espoo Blues, with a total output of eight goals and 13 assists for 21 points, along with 14 PIM.

Prior to turning pro, McRae skated for five seasons in the Ontario Hockey League (OHL), chalking up 65 goals and 102 assists for 167 points, and serving 206 minutes in penalties, in 240 career games with the London Knights and Plymouth Whalers.

McRaes father, Basil McRae, enjoyed a 576-game NHL career from 1981-97, and his uncle, Chris McRae, played 237 career AHL games from 1984-91.
RE: RE: I wonder if they can make a trade for Jacob Trouba  
Anakim : 8/24/2016 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13084590 Davisian said:
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In comment 13084482 Anakim said:


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He doesn't seem to be any closer to signing a deal with the Jets.




Problem is, Rick Nash has all the Canadian teams on his no trade list. SETH. Now do you see why NTC matter?




Says the guy who splooged all over his keyboard when they signed Rick Nash..


Why do you continue to lie and perpetuate a lie?
Right  
Davisian : 8/24/2016 2:55 pm : link
The all caps of excitement and instant nicknames were just tempered enthusiasm...

RE: Right  
Anakim : 8/24/2016 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13084707 Davisian said:
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The all caps of excitement and instant nicknames were just tempered enthusiasm...


First off, it was Arc who came up with the nicknames. I embraced them.

Second, I liked the trade. It doesn't mean "I splooged all over my keyboard." The only two trades I really went nuts over was the McDonagh/Gomez trade and the Kotalik/Jokinen/Prust trade. Liking a trade is different than splooging all over your keyboard.

Kind of liking and loving Tim Kennedy.
I'll post this on behalf of Greg  
Vin R : 8/24/2016 3:00 pm : link
Basil McRae's kid only has 122 PIM in 264 games?  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 3:01 pm : link
The old man must be so ashamed. Basil McRae was a bad dude.
RE: RE: Right  
Davisian : 8/24/2016 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13084718 Anakim said:
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In comment 13084707 Davisian said:


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The all caps of excitement and instant nicknames were just tempered enthusiasm...




First off, it was Arc who came up with the nicknames. I embraced them.

Second, I liked the trade. It doesn't mean "I splooged all over my keyboard." The only two trades I really went nuts over was the McDonagh/Gomez trade and the Kotalik/Jokinen/Prust trade. Liking a trade is different than splooging all over your keyboard.

Kind of liking and loving Tim Kennedy.


Definitely guilty of being wrong on Tim Kennedy.

Also, Denis Hamel and Alexandre Giroux

RE: RE: Right  
arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13084718 Anakim said:
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In comment 13084707 Davisian said:


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The all caps of excitement and instant nicknames were just tempered enthusiasm...




First off, it was Arc who came up with the nicknames. I embraced them.

Second, I liked the trade. It doesn't mean "I splooged all over my keyboard." The only two trades I really went nuts over was the McDonagh/Gomez trade and the Kotalik/Jokinen/Prust trade. Liking a trade is different than splooging all over your keyboard.

Kind of liking and loving Tim Kennedy.


I don't think I made up any nickname for Nash.

Stubicle and Evil Stralman were my work, yes.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13084648 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 13084611 arcarsenal said:


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Sooooo... what constitutes as "soon"..

Would you say the deal is.. imminent?


The player in question is a big Anthony Davis fan. As soon as his trade here is finalized, this guy will sign to come to Broadway. Have patience, it's just a matter of the dominoes falling.


Apparently Balki is stalling again and holding up the deal.
RE: RE: RE: Right  
Anakim : 8/24/2016 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13084748 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13084718 Anakim said:


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In comment 13084707 Davisian said:


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The all caps of excitement and instant nicknames were just tempered enthusiasm...




First off, it was Arc who came up with the nicknames. I embraced them.

Second, I liked the trade. It doesn't mean "I splooged all over my keyboard." The only two trades I really went nuts over was the McDonagh/Gomez trade and the Kotalik/Jokinen/Prust trade. Liking a trade is different than splooging all over your keyboard.

Kind of liking and loving Tim Kennedy.



I don't think I made up any nickname for Nash.

Stubicle and Evil Stralman were my work, yes.


Nick Rash was you, no? Or was it someone else? Jon in NJ maybe. I did create the Sick Rash one after Nick Rash, but it never took off.
RE: RE: RE: Right  
Anakim : 8/24/2016 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13084742 Davisian said:
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In comment 13084718 Anakim said:


Quote:


In comment 13084707 Davisian said:


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The all caps of excitement and instant nicknames were just tempered enthusiasm...




First off, it was Arc who came up with the nicknames. I embraced them.

Second, I liked the trade. It doesn't mean "I splooged all over my keyboard." The only two trades I really went nuts over was the McDonagh/Gomez trade and the Kotalik/Jokinen/Prust trade. Liking a trade is different than splooging all over your keyboard.

Kind of liking and loving Tim Kennedy.



Definitely guilty of being wrong on Tim Kennedy.

Also, Denis Hamel and Alexandre Giroux


Well I was wrong about Nik Zherdev so it's all good.




Really wrong. Really, really wrong.
The asshole makes a statement  
Carl in CT : 8/25/2016 9:32 am : link
Then never posts again on the thread.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/25/2016 9:39 am : link
I'd say we might have our own Hockey Thomas now but brunswick already took that spot.
I tried pushing Nashty  
Deej : 8/25/2016 9:49 am : link
but no one got on board.
Do you think his ass hattery was  
Drewcon40 : 8/25/2016 10:09 am : link
the Philip McRae signing that Anakim mentioned yesterday? Although I think that is officially a Wolfpack signing and not the Rangers (which there is a slight difference - see Yann Danis - who played for the Pack)

He did fit the description.
Im not sure  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 10:26 am : link
but i do think its lame to start a thread like this 2 days ago, then never post on it again.
RE: Do you think his ass hattery was  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13085700 Drewcon40 said:
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the Philip McRae signing that Anakim mentioned yesterday? Although I think that is officially a Wolfpack signing and not the Rangers (which there is a slight difference - see Yann Danis - who played for the Pack)

He did fit the description.


He does, but he doesn't exactly have "nice upside." I doubt he even sees the NHL. Pirri, on the other hand, has the potential to be a 13th F with a possibility of playing on the third line.
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arcarsenal : 8/25/2016 12:22 pm : link
Starting a thread like this over the a completely inconsequential signing would be ridiculous. If the kid we signed yesterday was who he was talking about.. oy vey.

I think it's pretty clear the OP is referring to Pirri. But it's also starting to look like BS. Would be nice of the OP to give us some sort of update but much like Slade and some of these other guys who claim to have inside information, it seems they'd rather keep up the facade.
He got it right!!!  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 12:51 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC
Hearing NYR to sign Brandon Pirri. One year approx $1.1M
lol  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 12:52 pm : link
way to go XBRONX! Never doubted ya....
Good going, Bronxie!  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 12:54 pm : link
Wherever you are



Gotta think a Rangers F trade is a guarantee now
what team out there at this point in preseason  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 12:56 pm : link
has excess, young top 4 (preferably puck-moving) Dmen to give away at this point though?

Truth is even with Pirri... Lindberg is probably shot until the new year... hopefully it at least means Glass is a goner. Without Glass we have 13 guys we're comfortable with at NHL level... with guys like Hrivic and Jensen able to fill-in when (not if) injuries occur.
RE: The asshole makes a statement  
Ross : 8/25/2016 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13085610 Carl in CT said:
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Then never posts again on the thread.

Maybe an apology is in order? I get the fact that you're upset that he didn't post again, but calling the guy a@#hole was uncalled for.
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arcarsenal : 8/25/2016 12:56 pm : link
I will eat my crow now. Nice scoop, Bronx.
Look how many NHL Forwards we have at this point:  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 12:57 pm : link
1. Nash
2. Stepan
3. Zucc
4. Kreider
5. Zibanejad
6. Miller
7. Hayes
8. Grabner
9. Pirri
10. Gerbe
11. Fast
12. Jooris
13. Glass
14. Buchnevich
15. Vesey
16. Hrivik
17. Jensen



And Lindberg also, but he'll miss the first month or so of the season
Ducks are an option - they have a good D.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 12:58 pm : link
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Maybe Fast is trade bait  
Kyle in NY : 8/25/2016 12:58 pm : link
Won't bring back Shattenkirk but possibly a mid level, useful defenseman
Pirri nice upside?  
Carl in CT : 8/25/2016 1:01 pm : link
I'll pass of he is the guy. Probably
Won't make roster unless it's the 4th line.
.  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 1:04 pm : link
HockeyStatMiner ‏@HockeyStatMiner
Only chance of no trade happening is if Gerbe, Jensen, and/or Jooris get waived. Seems highly unlikely, though.

Pirri will either make the third line or he's the 13th/14th F  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 1:05 pm : link
He's not a checking, defensive F at all so he'd be a poor fit on the 4th line.
I don't see the point  
Davisian : 8/25/2016 1:07 pm : link
But whatevs.. Let's hockey.

Don't see where he fits on the  
Carl in CT : 8/25/2016 1:07 pm : link
3rd line though. I agree not a 4th line type of guy. Who are we packaging for a defensive men?
I disagree with the idea that a guy good enough for a top  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 1:08 pm : link
Nine position can't be a fourth liner.
Stocking bodies  
Carl in CT : 8/25/2016 1:08 pm : link
For a loss in the expansion draft?
MAB and Carl  
Fish : 8/25/2016 1:09 pm : link
Panties in a bunch because Bronx didn't post again and was quiet with no signing. Then it happens. Feel the burn.
RE: Maybe Fast is trade bait  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 1:10 pm : link
In comment 13086079 Kyle in NY said:
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Won't bring back Shattenkirk but possibly a mid level, useful defenseman


We have a good amount of mid level, useful D-men already though. We need an offensive minded, young player (frankly if we'd kept Del Zotto he'd have been the type... oh well) we can pair with McD or Klein, i think.

I wonder if Fast + McIlraith gets that done. Obviously we'd all much rather trade one of Staal, Girardi or even Klein (the guys on the wrong side of 30) for the puck-moving Dman... but gotta give to get.

RE: MAB and Carl  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13086100 Fish said:
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Panties in a bunch because Bronx didn't post again and was quiet with no signing. Then it happens. Feel the burn.


You are grouping my innocuous post with Carl's? And exonerating your man-crush ARC while crushing me for just stating he hadnt posted since the OP in two days?

Man you are worse than those fans at MSG that do the 8-7-6 countdown on Ovechkin 5x per game... only to see Ovi score on us shortly thereafter. Rinse. Repeat.
If Glass is still on the roster coming opening night  
NYerInMA : 8/25/2016 1:12 pm : link
I think Gorton is going to throw AV under a Zamboni.
Not Rangers nwews, but hockey: under the radar trade  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 1:12 pm : link
mostly for cap/salary reasons:

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The Panthers sent oft-injured center Dave Bolland and 2015 first-round pick Lawson Crouse to the Phoenix Coyotes for future second- and third-round draft picks.


Crouse is like a bigger, better Vesey. Enormous potential. No good comp for him, big, strong, fast, skilled, physical.

But it cost PHO 16.5M in Bolland's remaining contract (which they need, plus more, to get to the salary floor) and draft picks.
RE: Not Rangers nwews, but hockey: under the radar trade  
NYerInMA : 8/25/2016 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13086109 pjcas18 said:
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mostly for cap/salary reasons:



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The Panthers sent oft-injured center Dave Bolland and 2015 first-round pick Lawson Crouse to the Phoenix Coyotes for future second- and third-round draft picks.



Crouse is like a bigger, better Vesey. Enormous potential. No good comp for him, big, strong, fast, skilled, physical.

But it cost PHO 16.5M in Bolland's remaining contract (which they need, plus more, to get to the salary floor) and draft picks.


Who's still calling them the Phoenix Coyotes?
Uncle Larry keeps saying they're not interested in Shattenkirk, but  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 1:15 pm : link
I'm not too sure.


One thing we do know (or seem to know) is that Nash has all the Canadian teams on his no-trade list so I doubt we see a Nash+ for Trouba deal.



Shattenkirk seems to stick out like a sore thumb as far as seeming availability and our needs.
RE: Not Rangers nwews, but hockey: under the radar trade  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13086109 pjcas18 said:
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mostly for cap/salary reasons:



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The Panthers sent oft-injured center Dave Bolland and 2015 first-round pick Lawson Crouse to the Phoenix Coyotes for future second- and third-round draft picks.



Crouse is like a bigger, better Vesey. Enormous potential. No good comp for him, big, strong, fast, skilled, physical.

But it cost PHO 16.5M in Bolland's remaining contract (which they need, plus more, to get to the salary floor) and draft picks.



So that's what we have to do to rid ourselves of Dan Girardi...Haha
Ha  
Fish : 8/25/2016 1:16 pm : link
Didn't see Arc's post. But thanks for bringing it to my attention and calling him out. So your saying arc is a pussy?
Florida has a lot of cap space now due to that trade  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 1:17 pm : link
Maybe a destination for Nash?
RE: RE: Not Rangers nwews, but hockey: under the radar trade  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13086111 NYerInMA said:
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In comment 13086109 pjcas18 said:


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mostly for cap/salary reasons:



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The Panthers sent oft-injured center Dave Bolland and 2015 first-round pick Lawson Crouse to the Phoenix Coyotes for future second- and third-round draft picks.



Crouse is like a bigger, better Vesey. Enormous potential. No good comp for him, big, strong, fast, skilled, physical.

But it cost PHO 16.5M in Bolland's remaining contract (which they need, plus more, to get to the salary floor) and draft picks.



Who's still calling them the Phoenix Coyotes?


The Sun Sentinel. LOL, it's Florida and hockey, what do you expect.
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RE: Ha  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13086116 Fish said:
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Didn't see Arc's post. But thanks for bringing it to my attention and calling him out. So your saying arc is a pussy?


I mean i dont like you putting words in my mouth but...
Pirri  
Phil in LA : 8/25/2016 1:17 pm : link
Breaking.
RE: RE: RE: Not Rangers nwews, but hockey: under the radar trade  
NYerInMA : 8/25/2016 1:23 pm : link
In comment 13086121 pjcas18 said:
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mostly for cap/salary reasons:



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The Panthers sent oft-injured center Dave Bolland and 2015 first-round pick Lawson Crouse to the Phoenix Coyotes for future second- and third-round draft picks.



Crouse is like a bigger, better Vesey. Enormous potential. No good comp for him, big, strong, fast, skilled, physical.

But it cost PHO 16.5M in Bolland's remaining contract (which they need, plus more, to get to the salary floor) and draft picks.



Who's still calling them the Phoenix Coyotes?



The Sun Sentinel. LOL, it's Florida and hockey, what do you expect. Link - ( New Window )


Haha, good stuff!
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MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13086089 Anakim said:
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HockeyStatMiner ‏@HockeyStatMiner
Only chance of no trade happening is if Gerbe, Jensen, and/or Jooris get waived. Seems highly unlikely, though.



Doubt anyone would miss Jooris if he were waived. Already 26.

Gerbe by the way on NYR website listed at 5' 4". I didnt know men were that small. Makes Zuccarello at 5'7" look like Manute Bol.
...  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 1:33 pm : link
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I didnt know men were that small.


They aren't. Six foot is the cut-off.
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pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13086146 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13086089 Anakim said:


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HockeyStatMiner ‏@HockeyStatMiner
Only chance of no trade happening is if Gerbe, Jensen, and/or Jooris get waived. Seems highly unlikely, though.





Doubt anyone would miss Jooris if he were waived. Already 26.

Gerbe by the way on NYR website listed at 5' 4". I didnt know men were that small. Makes Zuccarello at 5'7" look like Manute Bol.


I think technically that's a midget. or a dwarf. One of the two.
RE: ...  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13086148 BrettNYG10 said:
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I didnt know men were that small.



They aren't. Six foot is the cut-off.


I will make you pay someday.
Cool  
Vin R : 8/25/2016 1:35 pm : link
We have the same birthday
and the cutoff is 4'10"  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 1:36 pm : link
Which I know because one of my aunts is 4'11" and we used to tease her that she was THIS close to being a midget.
RE: RE: Ha  
Fish : 8/25/2016 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13086122 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13086116 Fish said:


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Didn't see Arc's post. But thanks for bringing it to my attention and calling him out. So your saying arc is a pussy?



I mean i dont like you putting words in my mouth but...



Too easy.....
RE: and the cutoff is 4'10  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13086159 Greg from LI said:
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Which I know because one of my aunts is 4'11" and we used to tease her that she was THIS close to being a midget.


it's the same for men and women?
RE: RE: ...  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 1:40 pm : link
In comment 13086154 Greg from LI said:
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I didnt know men were that small.



They aren't. Six foot is the cut-off.



I will make you pay someday.


Well Zuccs at 5'7" is considered a hobbit  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 1:42 pm : link
which we may have to reconsider now that Gerbe is on the team.

Per J. R. R. Tolkien, hobbits are between 2 and 4 feet tall, the average height being 3 feet 6 inches. A dwarf has an adult height of no more than 4 feet 10 inches. A dwarf is thus, on average, taller than a Hobbit.

And there is this bit from the "LPA" (I didnt know such an organization existed, but they are cute):

Little People of America (LPA) defines dwarfism as a medical or genetic condition that usually results in an adult height of 4'10" or shorter, among both men and women, although in some cases a person with a dwarfing condition may be slightly taller than that.The average height of an adult with dwarfism is 4'0


I think it's the same for both, yeah  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 1:42 pm : link
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RE: Well Zuccs at 5'7  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13086171 MetsAreBack said:
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which we may have to reconsider now that Gerbe is on the team.

Per J. R. R. Tolkien, hobbits are between 2 and 4 feet tall, the average height being 3 feet 6 inches. A dwarf has an adult height of no more than 4 feet 10 inches. A dwarf is thus, on average, taller than a Hobbit.

And there is this bit from the "LPA" (I didnt know such an organization existed, but they are cute):

Little People of America (LPA) defines dwarfism as a medical or genetic condition that usually results in an adult height of 4'10" or shorter, among both men and women, although in some cases a person with a dwarfing condition may be slightly taller than that.The average height of an adult with dwarfism is 4'0



And how tall is a midget? Taller than a hobbitt and shorter than a dwarf?
Shame on you, PJ  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 1:47 pm : link
the little people find the word 'midget' extremely offensive. I'm outraged with you.
RE: Shame on you, PJ  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13086191 MetsAreBack said:
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the little people find the word 'midget' extremely offensive. I'm outraged with you.


is that true? hobbitt and dwarf are ok, but midget sets them off?

Greg, can we get a ruling here?
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arcarsenal : 8/25/2016 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13086148 BrettNYG10 said:
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I didnt know men were that small.



They aren't. Six foot is the cut-off.


Yeah, they cried about the word midget so it's frowned upon now  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 1:50 pm : link
But the difference used to be based on proportions, not height. Midgets had the same proportions as full-sized people, they were just shorter. Emmanuel Lewis, for example. Dwarves usually have stumpy torsos and limbs with normal-sized heads and hands, like Warwick Davis.
well, pj, you should probably ask someone 9 inches shorter than me  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 1:51 pm : link
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RE: Shame on you, PJ  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13086191 MetsAreBack said:
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the little people find the word 'midget' extremely offensive. I'm outraged with you.


"People"
a pictorial  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 1:55 pm : link
Emmanuel Lewis (man, he plumped up)



Warwick Davis

I have to think a move is coming.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 2:07 pm : link
The forwards are kind of stacked at this point.

If Nash is the guy to go upfront, I think Nashville and Anaheim would theoretically be the best suitors.
this is a fun game, Greg  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 2:07 pm : link
midget?

How does trading  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 2:10 pm : link
Nash help the Rangers in Hank's lifetime?

I still think he's their best two-way forward.

Unless there is someone I don't know about (which is possible) who can play 5v5, Sh, pp, and is solid in those facets who do you replace Nash with?

Sure you might get a good D for him, but even that deep forward rotation doesn't have another Nash IMO.

Unless the salary relief is more important.
My totally random guess: Nash, McIlrath and Fast for an extended Shatt  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 2:10 pm : link
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Yeah, I don't see the point in selling low on Nash  
Davisian : 8/25/2016 2:12 pm : link
And he always follows a down year with a pretty fuckin good one.

I won't be surprised if it's Zucc traded. Sad, but not surprised.

RE: this is a fun game, Greg  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13086245 MetsAreBack said:
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midget?



LOL, what about elfs? short midgets?

RE: My totally random guess: Nash, McIlrath and Fast for an extended Shatt  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13086254 Anakim said:
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Thank God you arent GM. That is WAAAAAAY too much. The Blues would hit that accept button so fast the GM might get whiplash.
RE: RE: My totally random guess: Nash, McIlrath and Fast for an extended Shatt  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13086262 MetsAreBack said:
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Thank God you arent GM. That is WAAAAAAY too much. The Blues would hit that accept button so fast the GM might get whiplash.


Not saying that it's what I would do. I'm saying that's my prediction.
I think that's massive overpayment, Anak.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 2:13 pm : link
pj, I think getting a competent top pairing dman in return for Nash makes the team a Cup contender. I'm probably the biggest Nash fan here, too. I just think the defense is really, really bad. The team can compete with an average defense (I didn't think the 14/15 D was that good and that team was good enough, IMV) even if Nash goes.
good enough to win a Cup, that is*  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 2:15 pm : link
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What's more amazing?  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 2:16 pm : link
A Center who scores 22 goals in 49 games


Or



That same guy only accruing two assists in that season
.  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 2:18 pm : link
Micah Blake McCurdy @IneffectiveMath
Brandon Pirri (cheap deal with nyr) is a top six forward with very high goal rates despite dz deployment.
Dinklage and Tony Cox are dwarfs  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 2:24 pm : link
They have the full sized heads.
A few PMD RD other than Shattenkirk that I have my eye on:  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 2:32 pm : link
Jacob Trouba seems no closer to signing a deal with the Jets. I would actually like him more than Shattenkirk as he has better longterm potential, IMO.

Josh Manson and Brandon Montour of the Ducks

Matt Dumba (recently extended) and Jared Spurgeon of the Wild

Michael Stone of the Coyotes

Ryan Murphy and Brett Pesce of the Hurricanes

Ryan Ellis of the Predators



If we're going for quantity for quality, Shattenkirk or Trouba would make sense. If we wanted to even it out a bit and get future assets like prospects and draft picks, the others may make sense
RE: A few PMD RD other than Shattenkirk that I have my eye on:  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 2:37 pm : link
In comment 13086301 Anakim said:
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Jacob Trouba seems no closer to signing a deal with the Jets. I would actually like him more than Shattenkirk as he has better longterm potential, IMO.

Josh Manson and Brandon Montour of the Ducks

Matt Dumba (recently extended) and Jared Spurgeon of the Wild

Michael Stone of the Coyotes

Ryan Murphy and Brett Pesce of the Hurricanes

Ryan Ellis of the Predators



If we're going for quantity for quality, Shattenkirk or Trouba would make sense. If we wanted to even it out a bit and get future assets like prospects and draft picks, the others may make sense


Forgot Tanev and Honka too
Speaking of which, where's Seth?  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 2:55 pm : link
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.  
arcarsenal : 8/25/2016 2:57 pm : link
Typing up a new 10 paragraph angry diatribe about Dan Girardi.
question  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 3:06 pm : link
Has anyone ever definitively proved that Seth ISN'T Phil Mushnick? It would certainly explain a lot.
Hahahaahahahahah  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 3:26 pm : link
BTW, Shattenkirk named an 'A' for the Blues


Tom TimmermannVerified account ‏@tomtimm
Steen, Stastny, Tarasenko and Shattenkirk will be assistant captains for Blues
lol  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2016 3:45 pm : link
looks like the "participation award" mentality is spreading across the NHL these days. Started with the Rangers. Now the Blues.

RE: Yeah, I don't see the point in selling low on Nash  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2016 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13086260 Davisian said:
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And he always follows a down year with a pretty fuckin good one.

I won't be surprised if it's Zucc traded. Sad, but not surprised.


Apparently Zucc only had a partial NTC his first year with the contract?

His agent sucks - signed a bargain contract and doesn't even have NMC protection.
RE: .  
Metnut : 8/25/2016 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13086343 arcarsenal said:
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Typing up a new 10 paragraph angry diatribe about Dan Girardi.


Waiting until the Mets win a few in a row so he can tell us how much of a better fan he is than us. You know... better than the fans who actually follow the team when things aren't going well...
Seth went to the Bill Simmons School of Writing  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 4:03 pm : link
Never say in 50 words what you can say in 5000 words instead.
RE: I have to think a move is coming.  
Jay in Toronto : 8/25/2016 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13086243 BrettNYG10 said:
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The forwards are kind of stacked at this point.

If Nash is the guy to go upfront, I think Nashville and Anaheim would theoretically be the best suitors.


How could Nash NOT play in Nashville???
Knew my  
XBRONX : 8/25/2016 7:41 pm : link
source was very reliable.
RE: Knew my  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13086616 XBRONX said:
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source was very reliable.


Got anything else?
No  
XBRONX : 8/25/2016 8:41 pm : link
nothing else.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 8/25/2016 8:45 pm : link
In comment 13086441 Metnut said:
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In comment 13086343 arcarsenal said:


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Typing up a new 10 paragraph angry diatribe about Dan Girardi.



Waiting until the Mets win a few in a row so he can tell us how much of a better fan he is than us. You know... better than the fans who actually follow the team when things aren't going well...


LOL.. yup. Waiting for that one as well.
RE: No  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 8:46 pm : link
In comment 13086659 XBRONX said:
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nothing else.


Fuck.


Something's gotta give.
XBRONX  
Giants2012 : 8/25/2016 9:30 pm : link
Great job
RE: Knew my  
Davisian : 8/25/2016 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13086616 XBRONX said:
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source was very reliable.


Definitely nailed it.

It takes a hockey thread to get a decent asshat in this place.



If nothing else  
Greg from LI : 8/25/2016 10:54 pm : link
This should be a nail in the coffin of Glass' presence on the roster.
RE: If nothing else  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 10:54 pm : link
In comment 13086888 Greg from LI said:
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This should be a nail in the coffin of Glass' presence on the roster.


Who are we kidding? AV would probably bench JV over Glass
Seth also has SAUCES  
Anakim : 8/25/2016 10:55 pm : link
Ugh, we know a trade is coming. We just don't know who it's for.





I wanna know now!!!! :(
Besides Shattenkirk, who am I missing of PM RHD that may be available?  
Anakim : 8/26/2016 12:55 pm : link
Jacob Trouba seems no closer to signing a deal with the Jets. I would actually like him more than Shattenkirk as he has better longterm potential, IMO.

Josh Manson and Brandon Montour of the Ducks

Matt Dumba (recently extended) and Jared Spurgeon of the Wild

Michael Stone of the Coyotes

Ryan Murphy and Brett Pesce of the Hurricanes

Ryan Ellis of the Predators

Julius Honka of the Stars



What about JT Miller and Dylan McIlrath for Jacob Trouba?
Gordon has the depth and flexibility to craft a balanced roster now  
Torrag : 8/26/2016 1:14 pm : link
Some of these forwards have to be packaged. I would build a deal around any number of them including Nash and Hayes who you'd believe would be desirable commodities to some GM's out there. Ideally we'll be able to get Staal out of town as well but that may be too much to ask.
RE: Gordon has the depth and flexibility to craft a balanced roster now  
Anakim : 8/26/2016 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13087491 Torrag said:
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Some of these forwards have to be packaged. I would build a deal around any number of them including Nash and Hayes who you'd believe would be desirable commodities to some GM's out there. Ideally we'll be able to get Staal out of town as well but that may be too much to ask.


I doubt we trade Hayes when he was so fundamental (or seemingly at least) in bringing in Jimmy Vesey. Same with JT Miller. That's why I think Nash and Zucc are the most likely to be traded (I hope Nash more so than Zucc).
Wouldn't want to move Miller  
Giants2012 : 8/26/2016 3:25 pm : link
i think he's going to get better and better.

Somehow though, this needs a defenseman who can skate the puck up ice, connect on the breakout pass and, heaven for bid, shoot the puck hard/accurate.
If we move Zucc or Miller, then Girardi or Staal better be going with  
Anakim : 8/26/2016 7:15 pm : link
one of them ala the Bolland trade.
RE: If nothing else  
arcarsenal : 8/26/2016 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13086888 Greg from LI said:
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This should be a nail in the coffin of Glass' presence on the roster.


It should be.. but I'll honestly never believe it until I see it. The guy is the epitome of the 9 lives cliche.
RE: RE: If nothing else  
Anakim : 8/26/2016 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13088060 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13086888 Greg from LI said:


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This should be a nail in the coffin of Glass' presence on the roster.



It should be.. but I'll honestly never believe it until I see it. The guy is the epitome of the 9 lives cliche.


Yeah we said the same thing last year. Glass was demoted...and lo and behold, the man was called up and stayed in the lineup.
None of the guys signed this offseason replace Glass  
Davisian : 8/26/2016 7:45 pm : link
He's still the only fwd that fights with any regularity.

We all agree he sucks as that almost as bad as he sucks at hockey, and brings nothing else to the table.

McIlrath is better, but he needs to be on the ice more, so he can't just run around looking for one.

The need for that role has greatly diminished and the choice should always be talent over ineffectual goon, but someone needs to tell AV.


Replacing him does mean that guys like Kreider and Miller may have to throw down more often. Not "enforce" but they'll need to react to questionable hits n shit.









Rangers Traverse City roster announced  
Anakim : 8/29/2016 11:36 am : link
Interesting that they list Buchnevich as a C



That's a pretty roster for TC  
Deej : 8/29/2016 12:38 pm : link
Buch, Gropp, Kovacs, Vesey, Day, Halverson, and prob Morrison are the ones your really care about. The Ds outside of Day are a wasteland. Zborovskiy has potential but if his development curve is long, will he bolt for more $$ in Russia? I would.
*pretty cruddy  
Deej : 8/29/2016 12:39 pm : link
I meant to say. Also Nieves and Fogarty could end up as good bottom 6 checkers down the road.
RE: RE: .  
SethFromAstoria : 8/29/2016 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13086441 Metnut said:
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In comment 13086343 arcarsenal said:


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Typing up a new 10 paragraph angry diatribe about Dan Girardi.



Waiting until the Mets win a few in a row so he can tell us how much of a better fan he is than us. You know... better than the fans who actually follow the team when things aren't going well...


i've been here. Watching it all and laughing. It's become clear that no one is willing to admit when they sound like a douchebag when they are obnoxiously wrong and even in some cases the bitching goes on and on even when people have been wrong over and over. At some point its like talking to a wall. I mean the amount of bitching about how the Rangers window was closed and they had no young guys and no picks and no assets etc was in high supply. Now suddenly they have too many forwards to count. There was bitching about how the team had no goalies in the system and they now have what...4 good or great prospects? Its boring after a while to talk to people who dislike you and what you have to say because they know they are right and are always wrong but never shutup as they get shot down over and over.

Then there are the Met fans. The most embarrassing. Met fans can go into a weekend giddy, spend a saturday night saying the team is horrible and the manager is the worst and then go to work on Monday talking about how great De Aza is. I mean listen to Benigno and Roberts...two guys who will spend weeks bitching bitching bitching bitching about making moves. they get Bruce and then are SHOCKED!! nSHOCKED when he isnt great. its a joke. Then there is the manager bashing....

Its best to not talk all the time and since my father passed away I can't waste my time getting fired up about the lowest of the low in regards to fan examples. Its not worth my anxiety level going up more than its been to try to convince someone (like yourself perhaps) how much of a fucking dope he is. Enjoy whatever it is that gets you off.
Sorry to hear about your Pops, Seth  
Davisian : 8/29/2016 1:35 pm : link
Lost my Ma a few years ago, so all I can offer is that it doesn't get better, it just gets a little less shitty with time..

....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2016 1:36 pm : link
Seth, I'm very sorry to hear about your father. That's awful.
yeah  
SethFromAstoria : 8/29/2016 1:36 pm : link
and the other thing is that I dont need to post daily about the pain in my vagina and how much Terry Collins sucks to prove i watch the Mets when they aren't going well. I just dont feel the need to panic like some pussies such as yourself. Or talk about another person when you think they aren't looking. Like Arc for instance. I've only tried to talk like a man to that dude 10000 times but he still wants to do it this way. So what we'll do is do it this way. When he says something completely fucking dumb, i'll make sure we all know. It's fun to be part of the cool kid group,. Thats why Arc is buddies with the absolute worst rival fans of his teams. He needs to have reinforcement. I dont mind being known as contrarian to a bunch of guys who are so often pretending they knew everything all along even when they rant and rave everyday about bullshit.
Sorry to hear about your Dad, Seth  
Deej : 8/29/2016 1:40 pm : link
my condolences to you.
its ok  
SethFromAstoria : 8/29/2016 1:44 pm : link
thanks.

Davisian I dont think so...this will likely not go away because of the speed and severity of the issue and whatnot. Life has not been on my side recently. Lets go Rangers
RE: yeah  
Metnut : 8/29/2016 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13092609 SethFromAstoria said:
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and the other thing is that I dont need to post daily about the pain in my vagina and how much Terry Collins sucks to prove i watch the Mets when they aren't going well. I just dont feel the need to panic like some pussies such as yourself. Or talk about another person when you think they aren't looking. Like Arc for instance. I've only tried to talk like a man to that dude 10000 times but he still wants to do it this way. So what we'll do is do it this way. When he says something completely fucking dumb, i'll make sure we all know. It's fun to be part of the cool kid group,. Thats why Arc is buddies with the absolute worst rival fans of his teams. He needs to have reinforcement. I dont mind being known as contrarian to a bunch of guys who are so often pretending they knew everything all along even when they rant and rave everyday about bullshit.


Sorry about your Dad Seth, absolutely horrible thing for someone to go through.

Regarding BBI, I had every expectation that you'd read my post, and didn't think that you "wouldn't be looking." It's a public forum on a 100+ post thread, so not exactly hiding anything there.

Congrats on showing up and telling us how Mets fans stink though. Can't say how much we all look forward to those posts. You might enjoy the threads more if you tried to engage people in a friendly manner rather than "convince someone how much of a fucking dope he is."
RE: RE: RE: .  
Giants2012 : 8/29/2016 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13092589 SethFromAstoria said:
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Then there are the Met fans. The most embarrassing. Met fans can go into a weekend giddy, spend a saturday night saying the team is horrible and the manager is the worst and then go to work on Monday talking about how great De Aza is. I mean listen to Benigno and Roberts...two guys who will spend weeks bitching bitching bitching bitching about making moves.


The pitching is set for 10-12 years.
Sorry to hear about your dad, Seth  
Anakim : 8/29/2016 10:09 pm : link
My deepest condolences
Dominic Moore to the Bruins  
MetsAreBack : 8/31/2016 12:34 pm : link
It was time to move on but disappointed we couldn't win a Cup for this guy. If you saw the documentary of him and his deceased wife, it was hard to keep a dry eye and not have the utmost respect for this guy. Plus at least he did score the GWG in game 6 against Montreal - a memory I'll never forget.
Despite being on Seth's list, being a rival team's fan and all...  
pganut : 9/1/2016 3:09 pm : link
I thought this was pretty cool from the Rangers' twitter feed. 90th anniversary red line. Not finished (obvi) but looks sharp:

Just got back from Vegas  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2016 4:53 pm : link
the Rangers were 25:1 odds to win the Stanley Cup at the Venetian sports book.

I usually bet on teams I hate, the Bruins, Patriots, Red Sox, etc.

but that was too good to pass up.

The Edmonton Oilers (20:1) had better odds than the Rangers.

WTF? I think the Rangers are close to a lock for the playoffs, and if Hank gets hot they're primed for a deep run.

Somehow the Habs were 15:1 but I think that's just because so much money gets bet on them and they even out the line. I don't think that's reflective of their status.

Islanders were 30 or 35:1.
I'd have taken NYI at 30 or 35:1  
MetsAreBack : 9/1/2016 5:16 pm : link
over Rangers at 25:1

We might have Hank, but this defense is still atrocious. I do not think we are a lock for the playoffs at all, especially in such a tough division.

Maybe a deal gets done for D help during preseason but i'm beginning to think we're content with this roster through midseason and will reassess at the trade deadline. Pirri was likely signed because Lindberg won't contribute before the New Year and AV may not be all that enthralled with him anyway (based on his usage last season).

Not that there are top 4, puck-moving defensemen available this close to training camp anyway.
RE: I'd have taken NYI at 30 or 35:1  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2016 5:24 pm : link
In comment 13098352 MetsAreBack said:
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over Rangers at 25:1

We might have Hank, but this defense is still atrocious. I do not think we are a lock for the playoffs at all, especially in such a tough division.

Maybe a deal gets done for D help during preseason but i'm beginning to think we're content with this roster through midseason and will reassess at the trade deadline. Pirri was likely signed because Lindberg won't contribute before the New Year and AV may not be all that enthralled with him anyway (based on his usage last season).

Not that there are top 4, puck-moving defensemen available this close to training camp anyway.


If McDonagh was healthy last year it would have been a different story. Just need to replace Yandle IMO and the team is better than last year. Easier said than done, but not impossible. Also, I think you're underrating Skjei a little - though you didn't say it - I think a lot of Rangers fans are, I think he's going to make a huge leap this year and play (and earn) top 4 D minutes.

And how are the Edmonton Oilers 20:1?

Vegas is just about supply & demand though  
MetsAreBack : 9/1/2016 5:29 pm : link
lots of money is betting on McDavid taking the leap... other young guys improving... Lucic bringing leadership, Larsen starting to stabilize the defense...

but the bigger issue is playing in the awful West division and a 14 team conference.

I wouldnt bet on them at 20:1 either.. but its less shocking to me than Habs at 15:1
RE: Vegas is just about supply & demand though  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2016 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13098369 MetsAreBack said:
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lots of money is betting on McDavid taking the leap... other young guys improving... Lucic bringing leadership, Larsen starting to stabilize the defense...

but the bigger issue is playing in the awful West division and a 14 team conference.

I wouldnt bet on them at 20:1 either.. but its less shocking to me than Habs at 15:1


Yeah I was surprised with the Habs.

but like I said with that I think it's a function of money - historically not just this year - being bet on them.

The Habs might be as good as last year if you think this year Weber and Subban are a wash. their only other additions were Radulov (and who knows what you'll get from that crazy bastard) and Andrew Shaw who is a meh top 9 forward. And they gave up Lars Eller who is probably a wash at worst with Shaw.

on other words they are still, probably more than any other team, heavily reliant on their netminder.

they probably have one of the better 4th lines in the league, but so what.

they will go as far as Price takes them and he's been out of work a long time.

at 15:1 I wouldn't bet them.
pj  
pganut : 9/1/2016 5:44 pm : link
I saw this article last week about Asadourian's camp in Newington (mainly because it mentioned Devon Toews of the Isles). A good bit devoted to Quinnipiac skaters with Pecknold getting some of the praise he deserves.
Newington Pro Hockey Camp - ( New Window )
RE: pj  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2016 6:05 pm : link
In comment 13098381 pganut said:
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I saw this article last week about Asadourian's camp in Newington (mainly because it mentioned Devon Toews of the Isles). A good bit devoted to Quinnipiac skaters with Pecknold getting some of the praise he deserves. Newington Pro Hockey Camp - ( New Window )


kind of amazing to lose two national titles and be nationally ranked multiple times and still not have an NHL player from the school. If it was all 23 - 25 year old Canadian kids who were too old to be drafted and trying to get exposure I'd say well there's your explanation, but it's not. He has a good mix of American and Canadian.
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 9/1/2016 7:42 pm : link
Why is Seth rambling about me again?

Do I care? Probably not....
Metnut  
SethFromAstoria : 9/2/2016 4:17 am : link
Just ask yourself an easy question to answer...Why would Seth come here and immediately be in attack mode?

I mean do you seriously think I haven't started the majority of my posts without even directing them at a person or people? You think I've been a member of this site for what....12 or so years without just giving my opinion or disagreeing with a general public/majority view? I can't see how anyone would think someone has a preference for getting into legitimate personal arguments and not just disagreements in normal conversations. The reason you have this idea is because you are reading shit I'm saying in threads with people who have been vicious in their response to my disagreements. I could go back to prior Mets regimes or Rangers discussions prior to a salary cap and recall people immediately ripping the shit out of me for saying things that went against the majority. Doesn't matter much if I was right. And people dont act too politely towards me.

Take you for example...you thought of me and just had to make sure you took a shot at me because for some reason


RE: Despite being on Seth's list, being a rival team's fan and all...  
Giants2012 : 9/2/2016 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13098136 pganut said:
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I thought this was pretty cool from the Rangers' twitter feed. 90th anniversary red line. Not finished (obvi) but looks sharp:



NFL showed them how to do that.
RE: Metnut  
Metnut : 9/2/2016 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13099519 SethFromAstoria said:
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Just ask yourself an easy question to answer...Why would Seth come here and immediately be in attack mode?

I mean do you seriously think I haven't started the majority of my posts without even directing them at a person or people? You think I've been a member of this site for what....12 or so years without just giving my opinion or disagreeing with a general public/majority view? I can't see how anyone would think someone has a preference for getting into legitimate personal arguments and not just disagreements in normal conversations. The reason you have this idea is because you are reading shit I'm saying in threads with people who have been vicious in their response to my disagreements. I could go back to prior Mets regimes or Rangers discussions prior to a salary cap and recall people immediately ripping the shit out of me for saying things that went against the majority. Doesn't matter much if I was right. And people dont act too politely towards me.

Take you for example...you thought of me and just had to make sure you took a shot at me because for some reason



I took a one-line shot at you because in the past you've gone onto Met threads and basically called posters stupid because they've vented about the team or criticized the manager during losing streaks. I don't like that style of posting, so I made a joke about you. It's not really about whether your right or wrong to me, it's more about the posting style and attitude toward other posters.

Still, taking an unsolicited wise-crack shot at you like I did is lame and I regret doing it. I'm happy to try bury the hatchet and try to get along better on Met threads.

Anyway, sorry for clogging your thread Rangers' fans. Congrats on the surprisingly smart offseason. Still think you're looking up at NYI when all is said and done in 2016-2017 though!
I liked the fact..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/2/2016 12:59 pm : link
the asshat came on, gave the info and left. He's an asshat. He hides in shadowy corners not to draw too much attention to himself.

The key is - he nailed it. Go back to the shadows young man to live another day and give more info!!
Haven't been keeping up with this thread  
bigbluehoya : 9/2/2016 1:10 pm : link
Seth - I'm terribly sorry to hear about the loss of your father. That sucks. Hang in there, man.
RE: RE: Metnut  
SethFromAstoria : 9/2/2016 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13100251 Metnut said:
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I took a one-line shot at you because in the past you've gone onto Met threads and basically called posters stupid because they've vented about the team or criticized the manager during losing streaks. I don't like that style of posting, so I made a joke about you. It's not really about whether your right or wrong to me, it's more about the posting style and attitude toward other posters.

Still, taking an unsolicited wise-crack shot at you like I did is lame and I regret doing it. I'm happy to try bury the hatchet and try to get along better on Met threads.

Anyway, sorry for clogging your thread Rangers' fans. Congrats on the surprisingly smart offseason. Still think you're looking up at NYI when all is said and done in 2016-2017 though!


I'll explain it this way...Its not during losing streaks, and its not how i have ever posted to start conversations...until it became standrd practice to tell me i'm an idiot and a joke and dont "contribute" anything because i say what that other poster pointed out and explain how tiring it is to read in every thread. As that guy said, in every post there is at least one managerial offense that indicates why the successful Mets manager is the worst. I could read a post durong a loss and come back a week later during a 5 game winning streak and the threads look the same. Some people just ignore it. I did for a while. This time I was tired of how lame and fucking predictable it is. I don't call people idiots but some people like to act like idiots all the damn time. When people start to becoem proud of their opinion as it makes less and less sense, its more and more tiring to have thread after thread ruined.

Actually you bring up the Rangers ....Do you know how often it was stated that the team had no depth and no forwards and we ruined it all with this move or that move...and yeah so what if they were thiiiiis close to a Cup, they didnt win so what idiot would make that mistake? Then suddenly the team gets another 2nd rounder, and signs 5 forwards under 25 while bringing over their best prospect and traqding a skilled but streaky player for a possible star. And then of course....Dan Girardi. The man who invented AIDS and caused poverty in the world.
RE: Metnut  
Deej : 9/2/2016 3:58 pm : link
In comment 13099519 SethFromAstoria said:
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Just ask yourself an easy question to answer...Why would Seth come here and immediately be in attack mode?


Cry for help, we all assumed.
RE: RE: RE: Metnut  
MetsAreBack : 9/2/2016 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13100321 SethFromAstoria said:
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Actually you bring up the Rangers ....Do you know how often it was stated that the team had no depth and no forwards and we ruined it all with this move or that move...and yeah so what if they were thiiiiis close to a Cup, they didnt win so what idiot would make that mistake? Then suddenly the team gets another 2nd rounder, and signs 5 forwards under 25 while bringing over their best prospect and traqding a skilled but streaky player for a possible star. And then of course....Dan Girardi. The man who invented AIDS and caused poverty in the world.



Gorton did a great job with the hand he was dealt this offseason, but he still faces an uphill climb. 50/50 the team makes the playoffs this year.
Great  
Carl in CT : 9/2/2016 6:43 pm : link
Is too strong of a word.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 9/3/2016 12:05 pm : link
Shestyorkin signed a three year extension with his KHL team. Apparently invalidates the old one and he is now under contract until April 30, 2019.
Love ya Bronxie, but can this thread die?  
Anakim : 9/3/2016 12:08 pm : link
I keep checking this thread to see if someone is hearing that we're going to trade for Shattenkirk or Trouba or someone.
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