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In comment 13084479 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 13084464 Keith said: Quote: Am I understanding that right? I'd rank them: Gronk Green Elliot I'm not taking the chance on a rookie who has done nothing when he has talent behind him. They have McFadden and Morris who will get touches. Elliot has done nothing to be in the class of Gronk and Green. I pray someone drafts him before my 9th pick. If I took Elliot it would be under the assumption that I can keep him for next year. Yes, I understand that most people would take other over him but I like to look long term. Is it risky for me to take him essentially at 13 overall? Yes but I don't trust Bell long term and I can see Elliot being a top pick next year like Gurley and DJ currently are now.

I'd take Elliott.

In comment 13084479 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 13084464 Keith said: Quote: Am I understanding that right? I'd rank them: Gronk Green Elliot I'm not taking the chance on a rookie who has done nothing when he has talent behind him. They have McFadden and Morris who will get touches. Elliot has done nothing to be in the class of Gronk and Green. I pray someone drafts him before my 9th pick. If I took Elliot it would be under the assumption that I can keep him for next year. Yes, I understand that most people would take other over him but I like to look long term. Is it risky for me to take him essentially at 13 overall? Yes but I don't trust Bell long term and I can see Elliot being a top pick next year like Gurley and DJ currently are now.

I had a 14 team league that drafted WAY too early, where I had the 13th pick. I used the exact same thought process to pass on Elliot for Ingram with my second rd pick (16 overall...plus I took Dez in rd 1 and didn't want to hitch my wagon to one offense)... and I immediately regretted it. Ingram should be fine but I think if you get Elliot at 13, you should take a shot on him based on projects.

I know Morris is a very good back and McFadden is capable, but based on the hype, it seems the Cowboys are going to do everything to make Elliot their starting RB.

I also was concerned about volume, as I don't know if he'll be the true bellcow that Ingram has been. But after taking Ingram, that pick has been eating at me, as if I feel that I made the wrong choice.

In comment 13084487 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13084479 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: In comment 13084464 Keith said: Quote: Am I understanding that right? I'd rank them: Gronk Green Elliot I'm not taking the chance on a rookie who has done nothing when he has talent behind him. They have McFadden and Morris who will get touches. Elliot has done nothing to be in the class of Gronk and Green. I pray someone drafts him before my 9th pick. If I took Elliot it would be under the assumption that I can keep him for next year. Yes, I understand that most people would take other over him but I like to look long term. Is it risky for me to take him essentially at 13 overall? Yes but I don't trust Bell long term and I can see Elliot being a top pick next year like Gurley and DJ currently are now. I'd take Elliott.

Elliott went #1 overall in my keeper league where we keep 2 players and the available players included Julio Jones, Lamar Miller, Cam Newton, Eddie Lacy, Gronk, and others.

Easier decision I guess with less options, but still Julio Jones is better than Green, Gronk, or Hopkins.

In comment 13084465 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13084458 Sonic Youth said: Quote: as I have Eifert and he'll be out for those weeks. I spent my last pick on ASJ but it appears he's in a timeshare. Any TEs you guys would recommend I drop him for? Charles Clay and Donnell are both FAs. Not too hot on Donnell since I think Tye will get snaps, but I'm unsure as to whether I should cut ASJ for Clay. Clay has a higher floor and is more of a safe play while Eifert is out, but ASJ has big time potential IMO and has more upside. What do you guys think? Who else is there? I read that ASJ is in the doghouse and buried on the depth chart, though that was early in training camp.

Available TEs:
Richard Rodgers
Charles Clay
Owen Daniels
Crocket Gillmore
Brent Celek
Vance MacDonald
Clife Walford
Vernon Davis
Hunter Henry
Jace Amaro
Jesse James (intriguing pick)
Tyler Higbee
austin Hooper


I'm thinking James, Clay, Donnell, or maybe Amaro. But mostly Clay or Donnell. James intrigues me a lot though if Ladarius Green will be out for a long time. He might be worth the shot.

or someone was talking up Higbee on here maybe not to start day 1, but as a late round pick so not sure he helps you.

A Steelers fan in my draft took Jesse James and was thrilled to get him in round 16 or whenever.

otherwise you're rolling the dice. Donnell, if he makes the team might be worth it, since he's still getting red zone targets at least, but I think Tye passes him completely at some point this year if not week 1.

In comment 13084517 Sonic Youth said:

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Available TEs: Richard Rodgers Charles Clay Owen Daniels Crocket Gillmore Brent Celek Vance MacDonald Clife Walford Vernon Davis Hunter Henry Jace Amaro Jesse James (intriguing pick) Tyler Higbee austin Hooper I'm thinking James, Clay, Donnell, or maybe Amaro. But mostly Clay or Donnell. James intrigues me a lot though if Ladarius Green will be out for a long time. He might be worth the shot.

Jets TE's had like 3 catches all of last year. I wouldn't be too interested in Amaro

I don't know why you keep bringing up Julio. He isn't an option. lol. That would be fantastic if he was though.

And, yes, I brought up Higbee as a player to keep an eye on.

so Elliot for the long term keeper status. That makes more sense.

Clay easily tops the list with Hunter as a possible wildcard depending on how they use him. But, like pj pointed out, keep an eye on Higbee.

In comment 13084551 robbieballs2003 said:

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I don't know why you keep bringing up Julio. He isn't an option. lol. That would be fantastic if he was though. And, yes, I brought up Higbee as a player to keep an eye on.

Do I keep bringing up Julio?

I mentioned him in the last post to show that in my keeper league Elliott went #1 and Julio was available.

Just to show that how some people in other leagues value Elliott immensely. I never said he was available to you, only that he was better than your available options and people (at least one) in my league took Elliott ahead of him.

Sorry if that was confusing.

Have I brought him up in any other way?

In comment 13084553 Keith said:

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so Elliot for the long term keeper status. That makes more sense.

Yeah, that is why he isn't in the conversation for me if we change the keeper rule. If we change it then I would not be able to keep him. If we keep it the same where you can keep anybody then he jumps to the top of the list. If I took Elliot I would definitely be putting myself behind the eight ball with Bell who is suspended for 3 games and a rookie RB so chances of me truly competing would be less. But I look at it like this, Bell is very risky himself and I am not thrilled with him as my keeper. I tried trading him for Beckham and DJ. Neither owner wanted to even think about it and that was before the suspension came out. I get it with those two players but a couple of days later news broke about his possible suspension and that just shut down all trade talks. In a one keeper league he worries me. I also worry that I am going to get off to a slow start as well which is why Elliot made more sense to me by thinking long term.

This league is also very deep so every team starts questionable players. We start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, and a flex on top of a K and D. With byes and injuries it becomes a shitshow. lol.

In comment 13084556 robbieballs2003 said:

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Clay easily tops the list with Hunter as a possible wildcard depending on how they use him. But, like pj pointed out, keep an eye on Higbee.

Here is some recent news on ASJ:

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Wed, Aug 24 Coach Dirk Koetter praised Austin Seferian-Jenkins' work ethic over the past couple weeks. Advice: After opening camp as the clear No. 2 to Cameron Brate, ASJ has gained the ground back and is splitting first-team reps with Brate. "Austin's worked his way right back in there," Koetter said. "And when he got moved down the depth chart all you can ask a player when he gets moved down is that he competes and does better and tries to get back up there and he's done that." It was a motivational tactic by Koetter, and it's paid off. ASJ is a high-upside late-round flier.

In comment 13084559 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13084551 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: I don't know why you keep bringing up Julio. He isn't an option. lol. That would be fantastic if he was though. And, yes, I brought up Higbee as a player to keep an eye on. Do I keep bringing up Julio? I mentioned him in the last post to show that in my keeper league Elliott went #1 and Julio was available. Just to show that how some people in other leagues value Elliott immensely. I never said he was available to you, only that he was better than your available options and people (at least one) in my league took Elliott ahead of him. Sorry if that was confusing. Have I brought him up in any other way?

Gotcha. I thought you were bringing him up as an option for me. I think you posted him twice. No big deal. I thought it was funny. I agree with you. Elliot is very risky. We have no idea if Dallas will have Elliot as the bell cow but it is just automatically assumed he will be. I thought Morris looked decent behind the OL and rookies usually run into a wall. So, I am fully aware that there is a downside with Elliot compared to some of the other players available. I don't know if I want the keeper rule changed. On one hand I would be more competitive this year if it does change. However, having the potential of Elliot as a keeper would be nice too. To totally different situations and we will not know the outcome of this until right before we draft. I hate that.

Sometimes, you can't fight the #s. My only FF phobia is with Doug Martin as he single hanledly ruined our FF team his sophomore year. No injury, no nothing except he totally bit that year as our #1 pick - LOL. The pain.

As far as Lacy is concerned, he has had 2 down years, last year almost being cut. But you have to follow this years hype with him coming in in shape and all. Also, the GB offense isn't as pass happy as it once was without a TE.

The only reason I like Ingram is that he beat us twice last year with huge games. If NO didn't suck so bad, his #s would look gaudy. He just has to stay healthy.

Am I crazy for liking Green more than Hopkins? They are both great players but Hopkins had like 190 targets last year. I cannot see that being repeated which means he would need to have more explosive plays to be just as good as last year.

I can see Green's targets increasing amd he is easily their main target. Eifert seems like he is always injured. I think I like Greem more than Hopkins this year.

Another guy that I think isn't getting enough talk is Allen Robinson. I would definitely take Robinson over Dez and Nelson in drafts.

In comment 13084660 stoneman said:

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Sometimes, you can't fight the #s. My only FF phobia is with Doug Martin as he single hanledly ruined our FF team his sophomore year. No injury, no nothing except he totally bit that year as our #1 pick - LOL. The pain. As far as Lacy is concerned, he has had 2 down years, last year almost being cut. But you have to follow this years hype with him coming in in shape and all. Also, the GB offense isn't as pass happy as it once was without a TE. The only reason I like Ingram is that he beat us twice last year with huge games. If NO didn't suck so bad, his #s would look gaudy. He just has to stay healthy.

What other "down year" did Lacy have besides last season? His first 2 seasons he was very good. He started slow in 2014 but had a very strong finish.

In comment 13084660 stoneman said:

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Sometimes, you can't fight the #s. My only FF phobia is with Doug Martin as he single hanledly ruined our FF team his sophomore year. No injury, no nothing except he totally bit that year as our #1 pick - LOL. The pain. As far as Lacy is concerned, he has had 2 down years, last year almost being cut. But you have to follow this years hype with him coming in in shape and all. Also, the GB offense isn't as pass happy as it once was without a TE. The only reason I like Ingram is that he beat us twice last year with huge games. If NO didn't suck so bad, his #s would look gaudy. He just has to stay healthy.

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In comment 13084720 robbieballs2003 said:

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Am I crazy for liking Green more than Hopkins? They are both great players but Hopkins had like 190 targets last year. I cannot see that being repeated which means he would need to have more explosive plays to be just as good as last year. I can see Green's targets increasing amd he is easily their main target. Eifert seems like he is always injured. I think I like Greem more than Hopkins this year. Another guy that I think isn't getting enough talk is Allen Robinson. I would definitely take Robinson over Dez and Nelson in drafts.

Not crazy, no. I also have Green ranked slightly ahead of Hopkins.

if I end up picking 8-12 I'm 100% taking him over every RB in that range, Dez, and Gronk.

both have great years.

When Hopkins was the only option with a bad QB he was practically unstoppable I don't see why having a couple rookie WR's and a new RB should change that substantially.

Plus, Green should get more targets not just because Eifert is injured, but because Jones and Sanu are gone.

he's got guys like Brandon LaFell and Brandon Tate in his depth chart.

Bengals have a favorable SOS too.

I don't think I'd wager on either one outproducing the other, but Hopkins so far has a higher ADP than Green, but I'd be happy with either.

in my 12 team standard league and I immediately thought of AJ Green being my guy there. I'd take him over Hopkins or Dez.

In comment 13084766 pjcas18 said:

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both have great years. When Hopkins was the only option with a bad QB he was practically unstoppable I don't see why having a couple rookie WR's and a new RB should change that substantially. Plus, Green should get more targets not just because Eifert is injured, but because Jones and Sanu are gone. he's got guys like Brandon LaFell and Brandon Tate in his depth chart. Bengals have a favorable SOS too. I don't think I'd wager on either one outproducing the other, but Hopkins so far has a higher ADP than Green, but I'd be happy with either.

What do you think is a realistic expectation for Fuller this year opposite Hopkins?

In comment 13084803 JayBinQueens said:

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In comment 13084766 pjcas18 said: Quote: both have great years. When Hopkins was the only option with a bad QB he was practically unstoppable I don't see why having a couple rookie WR's and a new RB should change that substantially. Plus, Green should get more targets not just because Eifert is injured, but because Jones and Sanu are gone. he's got guys like Brandon LaFell and Brandon Tate in his depth chart. Bengals have a favorable SOS too. I don't think I'd wager on either one outproducing the other, but Hopkins so far has a higher ADP than Green, but I'd be happy with either. What do you think is a realistic expectation for Fuller this year opposite Hopkins?

I wasn't that high on him in the draft but he has played well so far for Houston and I liked what I saw in the last preseason game from him. I have a hard time drafting the second WR on Houston but I am more open to drafting him now.

In comment 13084766 pjcas18 said:

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both have great years. When Hopkins was the only option with a bad QB he was practically unstoppable I don't see why having a couple rookie WR's and a new RB should change that substantially. Plus, Green should get more targets not just because Eifert is injured, but because Jones and Sanu are gone. he's got guys like Brandon LaFell and Brandon Tate in his depth chart. Bengals have a favorable SOS too. I don't think I'd wager on either one outproducing the other, but Hopkins so far has a higher ADP than Green, but I'd be happy with either.

Yep, I forgot to mention that about the SoS. Green has a great situation if you go by last year's rankings of defenses against WRs.

In comment 13084803 JayBinQueens said:

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In comment 13084766 pjcas18 said: Quote: both have great years. When Hopkins was the only option with a bad QB he was practically unstoppable I don't see why having a couple rookie WR's and a new RB should change that substantially. Plus, Green should get more targets not just because Eifert is injured, but because Jones and Sanu are gone. he's got guys like Brandon LaFell and Brandon Tate in his depth chart. Bengals have a favorable SOS too. I don't think I'd wager on either one outproducing the other, but Hopkins so far has a higher ADP than Green, but I'd be happy with either. What do you think is a realistic expectation for Fuller this year opposite Hopkins?

Pure guess here, but once Fuller definitely wins the starting job I'll be more comfortable - and I think he will, but I think 50 catches 600 yards and 4 TD's would be well within my expectations.

In comment 13084728 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13084660 stoneman said: Quote: Sometimes, you can't fight the #s. My only FF phobia is with Doug Martin as he single hanledly ruined our FF team his sophomore year. No injury, no nothing except he totally bit that year as our #1 pick - LOL. The pain. As far as Lacy is concerned, he has had 2 down years, last year almost being cut. But you have to follow this years hype with him coming in in shape and all. Also, the GB offense isn't as pass happy as it once was without a TE. The only reason I like Ingram is that he beat us twice last year with huge games. If NO didn't suck so bad, his #s would look gaudy. He just has to stay healthy. What other "down year" did Lacy have besides last season? His first 2 seasons he was very good. He started slow in 2014 but had a very strong finish.

Yeah what down year did Lacy have year 2? He had a 200 yard and 2 TD improvement over his rookie season. By that rate Odell had a "down year" this past season.

In comment 13084720 robbieballs2003 said:

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Am I crazy for liking Green more than Hopkins? They are both great players but Hopkins had like 190 targets last year. I cannot see that being repeated which means he would need to have more explosive plays to be just as good as last year. I can see Green's targets increasing amd he is easily their main target. Eifert seems like he is always injured. I think I like Greem more than Hopkins this year. Another guy that I think isn't getting enough talk is Allen Robinson. I would definitely take Robinson over Dez and Nelson in drafts.

I like Allen Robinson but I have 2 Penn state grads drafting before I do in the second round. Which kinda sucks because I was hyped about him in the NFL when they didn't think much of his pro chances.

is that out of nowhere, the Saints started throwing him the football. This has a huge impact in PPR leagues.

Last year, he was entering the season with something like 25 catches since he'd been in the league. He had 50 in 12 games last year.

When you add in the fact that the only player behind him who could warrant touches is Spiller (and even that's arguable) coupled with his performance last year, I think he has a shot to really blow past expectations this year.

or maybe that's just what I'm telling myself to justify my reach in drafting him.

Sucked for me last year. It will be tough for me to pick him that high. I would pass.

In comment 13084891 Sonic Youth said:

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is that out of nowhere, the Saints started throwing him the football. This has a huge impact in PPR leagues. Last year, he was entering the season with something like 25 catches since he'd been in the league. He had 50 in 12 games last year. When you add in the fact that the only player behind him who could warrant touches is Spiller (and even that's arguable) coupled with his performance last year, I think he has a shot to really blow past expectations this year. or maybe that's just what I'm telling myself to justify my reach in drafting him.

I was really confused last offseason. I thought he would be a perfect get for Dallas. New Orleans never used him right. I actually wanted the Giants to get him. Then I saw him re-sign with NO for pretty cheap. I didn't get it. But after he was re-signed they started using him the way he should have been used and that was as a do-it-all back.

Auction style formats? Both of my leagues are that way now, I did well in both of them when we made the switch winning championships multiple years in both but the past few years my teams have struggled. I usually go the cheaper route and buy a bunch on middle tier players and sleepers instead of blowing all my money on 2-4 guys.

This year I am thinking of targeting 2 of the top 5 WR's and Gronk since there seems to be a wider gap between them and the middle tier guys at those positions. Thoughts?

Not sure how Green "sucked" for you last year. He had 1300 Yards and 10TDS even with his qb missing for four games.

I know he was great last year, but I've always hated NO offenses for RB's. They rotate a ton. Maybe it'll be different now that Ingram took the next step, but they still scare me taking him so early. Again, I just think there are RB's available in rd's 5-6 that are right there with Ingram.

In comment 13084982 ML33 said:

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Auction style formats? Both of my leagues are that way now, I did well in both of them when we made the switch winning championships multiple years in both but the past few years my teams have struggled. I usually go the cheaper route and buy a bunch on middle tier players and sleepers instead of blowing all my money on 2-4 guys. This year I am thinking of targeting 2 of the top 5 WR's and Gronk since there seems to be a wider gap between them and the middle tier guys at those positions. Thoughts?

Assuming you have a $200 budget, you'll be spending 60 for Julio/AB/OBJ 50-55 for AJ/Hopkins
Throw in another 45 or so for Gronk - - that's leaving you really thin the rest of the way money wise.

I usually try to get at least 1 stud WR and 1 stud RB and fill out the rest with 'bargains' but you have to be patient to find them

Are all players bid on at the same time? Do you go in order of ranking? Does this take place in one night like a draft or is this over days/weeks? How do owners bid and how do you know when the bidding is over?

In comment 13085060 robbieballs2003 said:

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Are all players bid on at the same time? Do you go in order of ranking? Does this take place in one night like a draft or is this over days/weeks? How do owners bid and how do you know when the bidding is over?

When we did an auction, we went around the room each person proposed a name in any random order they wanted (you could be the first person to propose someone and say "Cameron Artis-Payne $2" for example) and a dollar amount and we went in a specified order around the room and each person passed or increased the bid in set increments until there was a winner. We stupidly allowed one pass and re-enter, meaning someone says for example Julio Jones $50, and I pass, if it comes back around to me I could re-enter over the current bid (one time).

I think online auctions might work the same. I've never done an online auction, only live.

It took 6 hours for a 12-team, 17 round auction.

Never again.

In comment 13085063 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13085060 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Are all players bid on at the same time? Do you go in order of ranking? Does this take place in one night like a draft or is this over days/weeks? How do owners bid and how do you know when the bidding is over? When we did an auction, we went around the room each person proposed a name in any random order they wanted (you could be the first person to propose someone and say "Cameron Artis-Payne $2" for example) and a dollar amount and we went in a specified order around the room and each person passed or increased the bid in set increments until there was a winner. We stupidly allowed one pass and re-enter, meaning someone says for example Julio Jones $50, and I pass, if it comes back around to me I could re-enter over the current bid (one time). I think online auctions might work the same. I've never done an online auction, only live. It took 6 hours for a 12-team, 17 round auction. Never again.

That sounds crazy. There is strategy there but to go through roughly 130 something players like that in one night is rough.

In comment 13085060 robbieballs2003 said:

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Are all players bid on at the same time? Do you go in order of ranking? Does this take place in one night like a draft or is this over days/weeks? How do owners bid and how do you know when the bidding is over?

Here's how mine works.

We use ESPN. (10 teams, 0.5 PPR, 1 QB 6pt passing TDs, 3 WR + Flex. But that's not what you're asking).

We do the draft through ESPN. Players are bid upon one-by-one. The order is determined on the fly, by the managers. Each manager takes a turn nominating a player and making the opening bid. The player is awarded to the highest bidder when the bidding stops. Next manager nominates. Rinse and repeat.

We do the draft "live" at a bar with WiFi, but everyone uses a laptop or tablet. 2 reasons for this -- 1) over time people have moved or have other family shit going on, so we always have at least 1 or 2 drafting remotely. 2) the computer does all of the work and avoids a logistical nightmare of record keeping, auctioneering, and trying to maintain a baseline level of decorum.

It is a LOT of fun. I've always liked my league, but my interest has increased tenfold since we moved to auction 3 years ago.

Our draft is late Saturday afternoon. Can't wait.

On average I'd say it has taken us about 1 hour longer than snake drafting.

All good with me when the beers are flowing and we're laughing and breaking each other's balls mercilessly.

I've always wanted to try one and want to join an active league with others who are willing to give an auction league a shot. Any interest?

He was a top 3 FF RB last year at the time he got hurt. They throw him the ball, he gets all the goal line carries.. I had him last year and he was remarkably consistent. He didn't really have those monster weeks where he'd get you like 25 points but he seemed to always give you a solid 12-15 points. He barely ever had a truly shitty week.

In comment 13085068 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 13085063 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13085060 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Are all players bid on at the same time? Do you go in order of ranking? Does this take place in one night like a draft or is this over days/weeks? How do owners bid and how do you know when the bidding is over? When we did an auction, we went around the room each person proposed a name in any random order they wanted (you could be the first person to propose someone and say "Cameron Artis-Payne $2" for example) and a dollar amount and we went in a specified order around the room and each person passed or increased the bid in set increments until there was a winner. We stupidly allowed one pass and re-enter, meaning someone says for example Julio Jones $50, and I pass, if it comes back around to me I could re-enter over the current bid (one time). I think online auctions might work the same. I've never done an online auction, only live. It took 6 hours for a 12-team, 17 round auction. Never again. That sounds crazy. There is strategy there but to go through roughly 130 something players like that in one night is rough.

Some guys blow their budget early on like Antonio Brown or Cam Newton, and then it gets bogged down on the middle tier guys. At the end it's a couple people with money filling out their rosters with players of their choice pretty much, thinking they were outsmarting everyone else by holding onto their budget and yet they wind up with bottom of the barrel or fringe starters.

I don't mind hanging out drinking, but snake drafts are better IMO, the only argument for an auction draft is you can feasibility get any player you want, there is no "oh well I'm 9th I can't get Beckham" so some people will say it's more fair, but I don't think it outweighs the tedium.

But you should know that it's a far, far more negative slant than I've ever heard from other auction players.

Doing it through the computer keeps it moving.

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But you should know that it's a far, far more negative slant than I've ever heard from other auction players. Doing it through the computer keeps it moving.

Yeah, if we had a site managing it maybe it would be different.

I also did an auction in a post-season league. 6 owners, each team starts 2 QB's, 4 RB's, 4 WR's, 2 TE's, 2 D/ST's and 2 K's. Symmetrically it's perfect with 12 playoff teams.

even that auction (also live) dragged on forever.

I won that post-season league so you think I'd like the format, but I don't.

bigbluehoya has had a better experience than me, and I guess I'd do it again if everyone else enjoys them but me, though my experience was painful.

Whether auction or snake, I would suggest changing your leagues' in-season player acquisition systems to FAB from waivers if you haven't done so already.

In comment 13085096 bigbluehoya said:

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Whether auction or snake, I would suggest changing your leagues' in-season player acquisition systems to FAB from waivers if you haven't done so already.

We did that for this year. I like that. I think free agents everyone should have a chance at, not the guy who just happens to be #1 in waiver order at the time an injury happens or a guy breaks out, especially early in the season.

Anything that changes tilt from chance to skill gets a thumbs up

I may target 2 high end WRs or 1 WR + Gronk though. There is a much bigger drop from the top few WR's to the 12-15 range in projected points then RB's. Same with Gronk. Depends on how the draft flows though, every year and every league is different with how money is spent.

Auctions have their pro's and con's. The one I have this weekend is not done online and it takes forever. I used to enjoy it but now I kinda dread it. My whole Sundays are shot. The second league I am in we do on ESPN and it goes much quicker. We start at 30 seconds per player and it goes back up to 10 seconds if there is a bid placed under 10 seconds to go. There is more strategy involved in auctions and I used to be good at picking middle tier sleepers and had nice depth because I spread my money around but with two small kids and life, I don't spend the hours like I used too preparing for the draft.

or websites with rankings?

I have a 12 team PPR draft on Friday and have had no time to do any research...

In comment 13085133 ML33 said:

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I may target 2 high end WRs or 1 WR + Gronk though. There is a much bigger drop from the top few WR's to the 12-15 range in projected points then RB's. Same with Gronk. Depends on how the draft flows though, every year and every league is different with how money is spent.

It definitely depends on draft flow. What I do is have a max that I'd spend per player and then for some bigger names a minimum that if they're going for I'll definitely bid