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NFT: Mets and Cardinals Game 2/ Mets Talk 8/24

ZGiants98 : 8/24/2016 9:16 am
-Mets back in wild card race (sort of lol) 3.5 back

-deGrom VS Martinez tonight

-Niese to the DL (Good, finally some good news. lol)

-Yoenis Cespedes tells the Record’s Matt Ehalt he plans to honor all three years of his contract with the Mets. Still, columnist Bob Klapisch in the Record advises that the Mets be ready for the alternative. Is this possible?

-The Walkers had their baby

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RE: Cespedes  
Metnut : 8/24/2016 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13084286 ryanmkeane said:
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was absolutely flying down the 1B line to beat out that single. Awesome to see


Yea it was. I was a little worried after the SNY crew's commentary in the 1st inning, but he looked great beating out that single.
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arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 1:44 pm : link
Apparently Cespedes is still saying he is going to honor all 3 years of the Mets contract and not opt out.. I think he'd be nuts to do that and when push comes to shove, I think his agent will push him to opt out and tell him he's leaving a boatload of money on the table but it's ridiculously clear that he loves it here and he wants to be a Met. They need to just approach him now and tack on like 3 more years.. he'll absolutely take it. It would be crazy to even let it get to a point where he considers opting out at all.
RE: .  
Metnut : 8/24/2016 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13084511 arcarsenal said:
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Apparently Cespedes is still saying he is going to honor all 3 years of the Mets contract and not opt out.. I think he'd be nuts to do that and when push comes to shove, I think his agent will push him to opt out and tell him he's leaving a boatload of money on the table but it's ridiculously clear that he loves it here and he wants to be a Met. They need to just approach him now and tack on like 3 more years.. he'll absolutely take it. It would be crazy to even let it get to a point where he considers opting out at all.


Even if we can't take him at face value on honoring the contract, it's clear that he likes it here and that the Mets can get something done before he gets to FA.
His agent won't let him  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2016 1:52 pm : link
not opt out unless he gets a new contract from the Mets IMO.

it would be irresponsible with the year he's had.

RE: His agent won't let him  
sphinx : 8/24/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13084538 pjcas18 said:
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not opt out unless he gets a new contract from the Mets IMO.

it would be irresponsible with the year he's had.

But it's not the agent's call. If Cespedes actually wants to stay under the existing contract he can't do anything about it. His agent can try and talk him into a new contract with the Mets but when push comes to shove, Cespedes makes the decision. Didn't Cespedes have better $$ offers than the one he signed with Mets? I'm guessing his agent wanted him to go where the the bigger $$ was then. I get the sense Cespedes is his own man and will listen to options but make decisions based on what he wants to do and where he feels the most comfortable. If it's NY, a few million won't deter him.

I don't buy that for a minute  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/24/2016 3:28 pm : link
Great if it's true, but in this baseball economy he could very likely get a better deal and probably would deserve it.
Pirates just lost to the Astros  
spike : 8/24/2016 3:40 pm : link
now 3 games out and half a game ahead of the Mets.
RE: I don't buy that for a minute  
arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13084788 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Great if it's true, but in this baseball economy he could very likely get a better deal and probably would deserve it.


Well, he's the one saying it.. it's not like it's speculation.

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When asked by The Record’s Matt Ehalt if he intended to honor all three years of his current $75 million contract, without opting out, Cespedes flatly said, “Yes.”


He said this when he signed the deal, too. He said he was going to stay for all 3 years.

I think he's crazy if he does it but it's pretty obvious that Cespedes isn't wired the same as everyone else. I think he's been looking for a real home since he came to the majors and that the fans here have embraced him in a way that he hadn't been embraced in Oakland, Boston or Detroit. He might just feel comfortable here and honestly want to stay.

I still think at the end of the day, he'd probably opt out only because of the fact that he could get a really big contract on the open market this winter but I think it would be very easy to keep him here. All the Mets need to do is tack on 2-3 years with a similar AAV and I think he'd agree to it in a second.
I meant great if he sticks to his word.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/24/2016 3:44 pm : link
Guys with his performance level don't usually hit the open market. I can see teams lining up now that he's done it for 2 seasons. Whatever reason there was for all of MLB to undervalue him before, I think all bets are off now.
Just  
DanMetroMan : 8/24/2016 3:46 pm : link
doesn't make any sense for Cespedes. Even if he absolutely loves it here, why wouldn't you love it here for 5-6 years? It's not as if opting out would cost him anything. What, the Mets are willing to give him 2 years 47.5 (what he's owed) but if he opts out and looks for more they will pull the offer out of spite? Even if he were so obsessed with staying here that he would turn down more from someone else, the guy is going to at least want the security that a 2 year deal does not bring. I'd offer to tear up the next 2 years, give him a new 5 year deal where he could opt out after 3. Win-win in my book.
I mean he's said/done similar stuff in the past  
DanMetroMan : 8/24/2016 3:48 pm : link
""Cespedes is telling friends that he wants to re-sign with the club, regardless of the circumstances," Rosenthal reported Thursday.- in regard to the Tigers

and-


""I would like to be in a Tigers uniform for many years," Cespedes said Sunday through an interpreter in his first interview with English-speaking media since he reported to camp. "It's a good team now and it will be for many years to come. Every major league player wants a ring, and with this team, you have a really good chance."
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Hopefully the Giants continue to fall off the cliff  
spike : 8/24/2016 4:36 pm : link
and make another wild card spot available for the 3 remaining competing teams.
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sphinx : 8/24/2016 4:52 pm : link


Whys he batting Bruce and Loney  
spike : 8/24/2016 4:54 pm : link
4th and 5th? They are struggling big time right now.
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sphinx : 8/24/2016 4:57 pm : link


I wonder if Bowman didn't get sniped in the Rule 5 draft  
spike : 8/24/2016 4:59 pm : link
He would probably be in the Mets starting rotation right now
Brutal that we're  
Metnut : 8/24/2016 6:05 pm : link
trudging Johnson and Loney out there in a big game. Poor defense and even worse offense from both. Hopefully we can get lucky tonight and they'll contribute.
Clarification: back to square uno  
sphinx : 8/24/2016 6:10 pm : link
James Wagner
Not sure why this is a thing now, but Yoenis Cespedes reiterated past comments: wants to honor his contract & no decision made on opt-out.

Kristie Ackert
Hasn't talked to his agent about it. If something happens it will happen after the season via the agent.

Bob Nightengale
Yoenis Cespedes reiterates that he would like to spend his entire career w #Mets but no decision has been finalized on opt out clause

Marc Carig @MarcCarig
Cespedes says he'll leave that stuff to his agents in the offseason

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sphinx : 8/24/2016 6:16 pm : link
James Wagner
Jon Niese likely needs surgery on his knee, per Terry Collins. Robert Gsellman to start in his place.

Adam Rubin
Terry Collins confirmed that Neil Walker will remain on paternity leave for the entire Cardinals series. Walker plans to rejoin the Mets on Friday at Citi Field. He welcomed a newborn daughter on Tuesday morning in Pittsburgh.

The guy that has to start contributing  
sphinx : 8/24/2016 6:19 pm : link
is Jay Bruce. He needs to start earning his keep.

'As many as 11 51s players expected to join Mets in September'  
sphinx : 8/24/2016 6:32 pm : link
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The 51s have 11 men on the Mets’ 40-man roster, and at one point or another this season, each has been up to the majors.

“I would say that barring any kind of injury from now until the end of the year, all 11 of them have a chance to go,” Backman said [...]

Five pitchers — Josh Edgin, Sean Gilmartin, Erik Goeddel, Logan Verrett and Gabriel Ynoa — are on the 40-man roster.[...]

Kevin Plawecki didn’t get consistent playing time with the Mets and hit .194. He was sent back to the 51s after Travis d’Arnaud returned from the disabled list in June. Since then, he’s hit .307 with seven home runs and 33 RBIs at Las Vegas entering Tuesday. [...]

Matt Reynolds has shuttled back and forth between Las Vegas and New York, with three call-ups since starting the season at Triple A. Ty Kelly also has been back and forth. [...]

Young outfielders Michael Conforto and Brandon Nimmo also should find themselves back in New York.

Since being sent down in August, both have been handling Triple-A pitching with apparent ease. Conforto has hit .550 in his past 10 games and .426 overall in 26 games at Triple A, and Nimmo is battling for the Pacific Coast League batting title.

Entering Tuesday, Nimmo was hitting .346, and Backman has said Nimmo has been the most improved player he’s had over the course of a season.

Collins going to enjoying life with a different 9 every day


Complete article out of Vegas - ( New Window )
RE: The guy that has to start contributing  
spike : 8/24/2016 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13085081 sphinx said:
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is Jay Bruce. He needs to start earning his keep.


he seemed to have fallen an early cliff from his All Star best age 26 season to this current age 29 season as a barely replacement level player
Niese  
sphinx : 8/24/2016 7:09 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Jonathon Niese will undergo arthroscopic surgery


Laugh or cry  
sphinx : 8/24/2016 7:31 pm : link
Mike Puma
Ironically, the highlight of Niese's season might have been beating the Mets on June 7. Double whammy.

Lets DeGrominate!  
spike : 8/24/2016 8:19 pm : link
Carlos Martinez is out there throwing strikes tonight.

nice job BRuce!  
spike : 8/24/2016 8:32 pm : link
Please break out of your slump now!
LOL.. now Bruce is hurt.  
arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 8:35 pm : link
How the fuck do these guys get hurt JOGGING to 2nd base. These are professional athletes. I can go run full speed around my block right now without even warming up and I can guarantee you I will not get injured.

Oh well.. Cabrera is on fire.
RE: nice job BRuce!  
spike : 8/24/2016 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13085185 spike said:
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Please break out of your slump now!


Bummer.. If he is out long, it may be time to promote Conforto now
Conforto has destroyed AAA the entire time he's been down there  
PhiPsi125 : 8/24/2016 8:39 pm : link
If/when he gets called up, for the love of god let him play every day against every pitcher...lefty or righty. Enough of this platoon shit.
Bruce is terrible  
Metnut : 8/24/2016 8:42 pm : link
So no real loss if he's out. Hopefully it results in Conforto being brought back up.
looks like  
spike : 8/24/2016 8:47 pm : link
Degrom is struggling out there.. sigh
deGrom looks like crap  
Rflairr : 8/24/2016 9:04 pm : link
tonight. Lucky to have only given up one run so far
52 pitches  
spike : 8/24/2016 9:05 pm : link
and its only the 3rd inning.
The Mets bats  
spike : 8/24/2016 9:05 pm : link
have to win the game tonight.
Our pitchers are hitting a wall  
spike : 8/24/2016 9:07 pm : link
Too bad we don't have the horses to go to a 6-man rotation.
Another let down  
Rflairr : 8/24/2016 9:22 pm : link
Can't afford him to be this bad. When guys like Lugo and a rookie in the rotation
This is where the bats go to sleep for the  
PhiPsi125 : 8/24/2016 9:22 pm : link
rest of the game.

They are saying that Bruce came out of the game with a calf cramp. A cramp. Really?
2 home runs in 4 innings  
spike : 8/24/2016 9:28 pm : link
DeGrom should go one more inning at most.

let Robles and Goeddel and Henderson take the mound.
DeGrom doesn't have  
Metnut : 8/24/2016 9:32 pm : link
his best stuff clearly but he's battling against a tough lineup and we're still in the game. The lineup has to put together some better ABs.
Guaranteed Rate Field will be  
spike : 8/24/2016 9:32 pm : link
the new name for the home of the White Sox

Amazing.
5-1  
spike : 8/24/2016 9:43 pm : link
time to take him out please
RE: Guaranteed Rate Field will be  
Shecky : 8/24/2016 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13085251 spike said:
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the new name for the home of the White Sox

Amazing.


That is brutal.
Best recent naming has to be the Dolphins hooking up with the Hard Rock. What could be better than having The Rock opening up the Rock for the Hurricanes this year. They seriously nailed it.
Sigh  
Drewcon40 : 8/24/2016 9:51 pm : link
What a difference a year makes, eh gentlemen? Last year at this time we were excited about the future of this team making multiple runs. Now these games are just emotionally draining.

I hope Harvey, Wheeler, Matz, etc can come back healthy next year and we can field a contender. I don't hate on the Yankees but man, did that rebuild take no time! Our Yankee buddies on that thread sound like us, last year!
its sad to say that  
spike : 8/24/2016 10:27 pm : link
we have to win tomorrow's game or season is over.
Amazing.  
spike : 8/24/2016 10:34 pm : link
Zach Braziller (@NYPost_Brazille)
7 mins ago - View on Twitter
Rene Rivera has more home runs (5) than Travis d'Arnaud (4) in 70 less at bats. Also has higher OPS. Hard to believe. #mets
They should pull Cespedes  
spike : 8/24/2016 10:41 pm : link
and let him rest that foot. The game is over
This team has shown zero heart thus far this year  
Vanzetti : 8/25/2016 12:12 am : link
really disappointing
Need fresh arms out there I guess  
spike : 8/25/2016 12:19 am : link
New York Mets (@Mets)
30 mins ago - View on Twitter
LHP @GilmartinSean has been recalled from @LasVegas51s. RHP Erik Goeddel has been optioned to Triple-A. #Mets
Goeddel  
Vanzetti : 8/25/2016 4:14 am : link
has been overused. This is a guy with a long history of arm trouble. Why you would pitch him 7 games in 11 days is totally beyond me. He has sucked ever since.

If used correctly. he can be an effective middle reliever.
RE: Goeddel  
spike : 8/25/2016 9:24 am : link
In comment 13085466 Vanzetti said:
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has been overused. This is a guy with a long history of arm trouble. Why you would pitch him 7 games in 11 days is totally beyond me. He has sucked ever since.

If used correctly. he can be an effective middle reliever.


Terry is gonna Terry
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