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Fastest Giant ever

Flash : 8/24/2016 12:19 pm
Who is the fastest Giant ever?
The Lambuth Special  
Capt. Don : 8/24/2016 12:21 pm : link
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Henry Carr  
ny2plano : 8/24/2016 12:21 pm : link
Safety from the 1060's?
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arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 12:21 pm : link
Pre-injury Sehorn was really, really fast. DRC is probably close if he's not the fastest.

And obviously... Tim Carter.
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Josh in the City : 8/24/2016 12:21 pm : link
Tim Carter  
UConn4523 : 8/24/2016 12:21 pm : link
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RE: Henry Carr  
Joey in VA : 8/24/2016 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13084310 ny2plano said:
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Safety from the 1060's?
We had a team before the Battle of Hastings???
RE: Henry Carr  
PEEJ : 8/24/2016 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13084310 ny2plano said:
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Safety from the 1960's?


Gold medal Olympic sprinter
Herschel Walker?  
chopperhatch : 8/24/2016 12:24 pm : link
Thomas Lewis?

Sinorice Moss?
Ron Dixon  
Vin R : 8/24/2016 12:24 pm : link
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Tim Carter  
chris r : 8/24/2016 12:25 pm : link
Thomas Randolph
DRC
Seriously  
Josh in the City : 8/24/2016 12:26 pm : link
I think David Wilsons 4.28 time at his pro day has to be the fastest Giant ever. When he ran it looked like he was shot out of a cannon. His neck injury was such a shame.
Rocky Thompson  
Bubba : 8/24/2016 12:26 pm : link
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Vin R : 8/24/2016 12:28 pm : link
RE: Seriously  
chris r : 8/24/2016 12:31 pm : link
In comment 13084326 Josh in the City said:
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I think David Wilsons 4.28 time at his pro day has to be the fastest Giant ever. When he ran it looked like he was shot out of a cannon. His neck injury was such a shame.


Wilson had amazing acceleration but his pull away deep speed wasn't great. You can find an interview with him about the olympics and he admits as much.
RE: Seriously  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 12:34 pm : link
In comment 13084326 Josh in the City said:
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I think David Wilsons 4.28 time at his pro day has to be the fastest Giant ever. When he ran it looked like he was shot out of a cannon. His neck injury was such a shame.


Hokie pro day times are notoriously suspect. Me-Lo Hall had a ludicrous pro day 40 time, too. His 4.49 at the combine is likely much more accurate.

Fastest Giants I've ever seen are Ron Dixon and Tim Carter. Carter ran a 4.32 at the combine. Don't know what Dixon's time was (don't think he was invited to the combine) but I sure never saw anyone running him down from behind.
RE: Henry Carr  
BlueLou : 8/24/2016 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13084310 ny2plano said:
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Safety from the 1060's?


Two Olympic gold medals in the 1964 Tokyo Olympics says bingo - in the 200m dash and the 4*100m relay.

Got to be the guy.
and not that he was much of a football player  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 12:37 pm : link
But Da'Rel Scott ran a 4.31 at the combine
finally found a clip of the 76 lambuth special  
Gordo : 8/24/2016 12:38 pm : link
you can watch the entire second half if you want.
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Technically by 40 time  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2016 12:38 pm : link
it's Trindon Holliday, but since he was never actually on the field for the Giants only IR'd it would be DRC.

RE: RE: Seriously  
mattlawson : 8/24/2016 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13084341 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13084326 Josh in the City said:


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I think David Wilsons 4.28 time at his pro day has to be the fastest Giant ever. When he ran it looked like he was shot out of a cannon. His neck injury was such a shame.



Hokie pro day times are notoriously suspect.


Didn't see this coming....
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arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 12:41 pm : link
I'm pretty sure it was the 2014 game against the Falcons.. I know it was one of the games against ATL in either 2014 and 15 but I am 99% sure it was the 2014 one.. Odell's debut.

Anyway.. They ran a screen to a back named Antione Smith I believe.. and it wound up going like 75 yards for a TD.. DRC was totally out of the play when the guy caught the pass and I think he was on the complete opposite side of the field and he actually came very close to catching him before he got into the endzone. He made up like 20 yards of ground between where the guy caught the pass and the endzone.. I remember watching it and being like "holy shit.. how did he even get back into the play?".. he was FLYING. When he really turns on the jets he's fun to watch. He's so fast.
Henry Carr  
Big Blue '56 : 8/24/2016 12:41 pm : link
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I recall Homer Jones being very fast,  
Del Shofner : 8/24/2016 12:43 pm : link
but I don't recall a 40 time for him, just a 100 time -

"Homer not only excelled in football during his high school years. He was blazing fast, and was a top notch track star. He could run the hundred yard dash in 9.3 seconds, and the 200 yard dash in 19.9 seconds."

He still holds records, I believe, as to average length of catch and average length of TD catch.
CC Brown  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/24/2016 12:48 pm : link
end thread
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arcarsenal : 8/24/2016 12:53 pm : link
Actually, I went back and watched the play I was talking about.. DRC was in the play when he caught the ball but he gets pushed out of bounds and totally off track and still recovers enough to get close to stopping him before he gets to the endzone. Crazy recovery speed.
you can see it coming all you want  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 12:53 pm : link
Doesn't make it false. Just to corroborate....Me-Lo Hall ran a 4.34 at the combine but a 4.15 at Tech. It's just the magic of Blacksburg at work making all those guys so much faster there. Maybe Hokie Stone has some sort of a geochemical effect that makes football players significantly faster.
RE: I recall Homer Jones being very fast,  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2016 12:55 pm : link
In comment 13084373 Del Shofner said:
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but I don't recall a 40 time for him, just a 100 time -

"Homer not only excelled in football during his high school years. He was blazing fast, and was a top notch track star. He could run the hundred yard dash in 9.3 seconds, and the 200 yard dash in 19.9 seconds."

He still holds records, I believe, as to average length of catch and average length of TD catch.


that's Usain Bolt fast. Even with yards to meter conversion. Still ridiculously fast. That's probably world record time in the 100. Bolt owns the world record in the 100m at 9.58. So 9.3 in the 100 yards sounds pretty close to 9.58 in the 100 meters.

Dick Stebbins E D10 Grambling 1967  
Defenderdawg : 8/24/2016 12:59 pm : link
Dick Stebbins

Personal Bests: 100y – 9.2 (1965); 100 – 10.2 (1964); 200 – 20.4 (1966).

Henry Carr

Personal Bests: 100y – 9.3 (1963); 100 – 10.2 (1964); 200 – 20.1y (1964); 400 – 45.4 (1963).

Homer Jones

9.3 second 100-yard dash

Mike Miller

100
10.11 - (WR, Tennessee - NY Giants/New Orleans

200
20.15 (A) - (Tennessee - NY Giants/New Orleans)

Trindon Holliday

60 Meter Dash
2006 Indoor - 6.74a
2008 Indoor So 6.54a
2009 Indoor Sr 6.55a
100 Meters
2007 Outdoor So 10.02a
2008 Outdoor Jr 10.05a
2009 Outdoor Sr 10.0
fun fact about Homer Jones  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 12:59 pm : link
He played at the same college as Michael Strahan: Texas Southern.
RE: RE: I recall Homer Jones being very fast,  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13084402 pjcas18 said:
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that's Usain Bolt fast. Even with yards to meter conversion. Still ridiculously fast. That's probably world record time in the 100. Bolt owns the world record in the 100m at 9.58. So 9.3 in the 100 yards sounds pretty close to 9.58 in the 100 meters.


Not quite. A track and field conversion calculator says a 9.3 in 100Y converts to 10.17 in 100M.
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RE: Dick Stebbins E D10 Grambling 1967  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2016 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13084407 Defenderdawg said:
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Dick Stebbins

Personal Bests: 100y – 9.2 (1965); 100 – 10.2 (1964); 200 – 20.4 (1966).

Henry Carr

Personal Bests: 100y – 9.3 (1963); 100 – 10.2 (1964); 200 – 20.1y (1964); 400 – 45.4 (1963).

Homer Jones

9.3 second 100-yard dash

Mike Miller

100
10.11 - (WR, Tennessee - NY Giants/New Orleans

200
20.15 (A) - (Tennessee - NY Giants/New Orleans)

Trindon Holliday

60 Meter Dash
2006 Indoor - 6.74a
2008 Indoor So 6.54a
2009 Indoor Sr 6.55a
100 Meters
2007 Outdoor So 10.02a
2008 Outdoor Jr 10.05a
2009 Outdoor Sr 10.0


this is comparing 100 yards and 100 meter results.

they're different. 100 meters is longer.
RE: RE: RE: I recall Homer Jones being very fast,  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2016 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13084415 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13084402 pjcas18 said:


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that's Usain Bolt fast. Even with yards to meter conversion. Still ridiculously fast. That's probably world record time in the 100. Bolt owns the world record in the 100m at 9.58. So 9.3 in the 100 yards sounds pretty close to 9.58 in the 100 meters.




Not quite. A track and field conversion calculator says a 9.3 in 100Y converts to 10.17 in 100M. Link - ( New Window )


still olympic level times. 8th place in the finals was 10.06.
oh, no doubt  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 1:06 pm : link
In the 1964 Olympics, roughly the time when Jones ran his 9.3, Bullet Bob Hayes set a WR with 10.0 in the 100M. Second place was 10.2, so Jones definitely had world class speed for his time.
Speedy Mike Friede?  
Mike in Prescott : 8/24/2016 1:07 pm : link
I would guess, however, the Hershel had the best ever recorded time at his peak.
Herschel's best times were....  
Greg from LI : 8/24/2016 1:12 pm : link
...10.23 in the 100M and 9.3 in the 100Y
not a legit contender  
chris r : 8/24/2016 1:17 pm : link
I was always impressed with Nicks speed with the ball in his hands. The fact that he wasn't caught from behind by a crazy fast DRC on that tipped ball TD vs Arizona is a prime example.

The playoff TD vs the Falcons is another.

It's an fn shame what happened to him.
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A lot of favorites  
Ivan15 : 8/24/2016 1:18 pm : link
Clarence Childs was fast with the football in his hands. Homer Jones, Rocky Thompson, Dixon, we're all fast.

Gotta go with Henry Carr. Someone needs to find the video where he ran past the ball carrier and turned around to tackle him head on. Of course, it wouldn't have happened if the Giants were better defenders.
checked, and Homer Jones still holds the NFL career record  
Del Shofner : 8/24/2016 1:20 pm : link
for average yards per reception at 22.3.
Will Allen  
DennyInDenville : 8/24/2016 1:20 pm : link
Da'Rel Scott
DRC
Tim Carter


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Everyone else
RE: RE: Seriously  
mirwin : 8/24/2016 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13084341 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13084326 Josh in the City said:


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I think David Wilsons 4.28 time at his pro day has to be the fastest Giant ever. When he ran it looked like he was shot out of a cannon. His neck injury was such a shame.



Hokie pro day times are notoriously suspect. Me-Lo Hall had a ludicrous pro day 40 time, too. His 4.49 at the combine is likely much more accurate.

Fastest Giants I've ever seen are Ron Dixon and Tim Carter. Carter ran a 4.32 at the combine. Don't know what Dixon's time was (don't think he was invited to the combine) but I sure never saw anyone running him down from behind.


dixon claimed to run a 4.27 at one point and later fell around a 4.43
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Dixon said he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.27 seconds, though he concedes he has slowed some. The Giants timed him recently in 4.43.

Gerrick McPhearson  
Rob in CT/NYC : 8/24/2016 1:29 pm : link
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Coincidence?.. I think not  
Vin R : 8/24/2016 1:32 pm : link
David Wilson  
George Adams : 8/24/2016 2:11 pm : link
was pretty fast

40 Low: 4.28 40 Time: 4.38 40 High: 4.49 ... 40 Time Range: 4.40/
Put this on the other thread..  
Fred-in-Florida : 8/24/2016 2:37 pm : link
Why is there 2 threads on the fastest Giant?

Richmond Flowers
At Tennessee, Flowers was a three-time NCAA All-American in track. At the All-Eastern Games in Baltimore in February 1966, Flowers registered a time of 6.9 seconds in the 60-yard high hurdles, just one-tenth of a second off the world record.[1] At the National AAU meet in the Spring of that year, he finished second to future Olympian Willie Davenport in the hurdles, and second to Billy Gaines in the 60-yard dash.[2] At the SEC Championships in May 1967, he won the 120-yard high hurdles and the 100-yard dash, and was named Most Outstanding Performer. At the NCAA Championships the following month, he set the NCAA record in the 120-yard high hurdles.[1]

Along with track, Flowers joined Tennessee's football team, which Coach Doug Dickey had been rebuilding into a national contender. Starting at wingback during his sophomore year in 1966 (freshmen were ineligible to play varsity before the 1970s), Flowers caught 35 passes for 405 yards, and was named to the sophomore All-SEC team.[1] He registered five catches for 80 yards and a touchdown in Tennessee's 18-12 win over the Larry Csonka-led Syracuse Orange in the 1966 Gator Bowl.[6] During his junior season in 1967, he caught 41 passes for 585 yards and four touchdowns, and was named an All-American by The Football News.[1]

By his junior year in 1968, Flowers was considered a leading contender for the 1968 Summer Olympics in the 110 metres hurdles. Davenport had dominated the previous three seasons, but in 1968, Flowers beat him handily at several early season meets, to the point that the future gold medalist quit his college team that he thought was hurting his chances. Flowers ran the high hurdles in 13.3 seconds, a tenth of a second off the world mark, and went on to win eight consecutive hurdles races, which included wins over Davenport, Ervin Hall, and world-record holder Earl McCullouch.[4][5] While training at UT on June 2, however, he tore his right hamstring. He showed up at the September high altitude Olympic Trials in Echo Summit just barely recovered,[7] but struggled to a non-qualifying 5th place.[8]

If we're talking in Pads, I still say Carr, but would have no trouble  
Big Blue '56 : 8/24/2016 3:02 pm : link
accepting Jones as the fastest(in pads)..

I was at the game in Yankee Stadium where Carr was chasing Bob Hayes and actually ran him down..Of course, angles are everything..Am I misremmbering?
Eli Manning  
SHO'NUFF : 8/24/2016 7:45 pm : link
You can't coach speed. Look at those hamstrings firing.
I'm with,  
oldog : 8/24/2016 8:33 pm : link
Da'Rel Scott. Spent four years hoping for that dude and only once did he break out. Hope you all are going good Da'Rel.
RE: Henry Carr  
madgiantscow009 : 8/24/2016 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13084310 ny2plano said:
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Safety from the 1060's?


the sundial isn't as accurate as once believed.
RE: ...  
madgiantscow009 : 8/24/2016 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13084313 Josh in the City said:
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I would say the most dynamic player, but not the fastest top end speed. There are highlights were he is running to the sideline and cutting up the field and the defenders have the angle and he explodes past them. I think he would have been an all-pro at some point.
Byron Williams?  
mort christenson : 8/24/2016 10:55 pm : link
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RE: Tim Carter  
Kulish29 : 8/25/2016 12:37 am : link
In comment 13084315 UConn4523 said:
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If you're going to use his name, get it right.

It's Tim Carter 4.28
Keith Elias  
chopperhatch : 8/25/2016 1:13 am : link
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Fastest Giant ever  
johnboyw : 8/25/2016 9:34 am : link
Clarence Childs. Saw him chase Bullet Bob Hayes the length of the field on a long catch and run. Was three steps behind initially but closed it to 1/2 step near the end zone.
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