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The #Chargers put out their best offer, feeling any more missed time would mean Joey Bosa doesn’t play the full 16 games. It was rejected. |
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#Chargers offer to Joey Bosa included the 2nd most Year 1 cash behind only Carson Wentz. Now, if he doesn’t play 16 games, it all changes |
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Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere. |
Yikes, not a good look for the 2016 third overall draft pick or the Chargers. How can this be happening with a rookie wage scale in place?
Or does Bosa just flat out not want to play in San Diego?
Once the draft starts, if Bosa hasn't signed, he is eligible to be selected again - SD's rights to him expire then.
Can't say I'm surprised that the Chargers released a public statement essentially made to embarrass Bosa. Classless.
This. No matter what happens, I hope the Chargers take it hard in the brown eye.
That's the funniest thing I've heard all day....thanks!
I think the deadline has passed for the Chargers to trade their rights to Bosa for another team. So it's either sign him or risk losing him.
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I think a team like Dallas would be desperate to get a DE like Bosa.
I think the deadline has passed for the Chargers to trade their rights to Bosa for another team. So it's either sign him or risk losing him.
SD can trade his rights up to the Draft. If he is signed, he can be traded up to the trade deadline.
Maybe so, but San Diego is earning a reputation for being a place players don't want to play. This can only hurt the Chargers in the long run.
They should just pay the man the same fucking upfront bonus money that any other team would pay to a top five pick.
Can't say I'm surprised that the Chargers released a public statement essentially made to embarrass Bosa. Classless.
Cannot see him as a top 5 pick next year at all. A year off, and a track record of being difficult (even though he's probably right in this scenario). He was barely a top 5 pick this year as Dallas was taking Elliot regardless, apparently.
I'd start with a 2nd for him, but I like your thinking - nothing wrong with offering the 32 pick for him.
Can't say I'm surprised that the Chargers released a public statement essentially made to embarrass Bosa. Classless.
Bosa will not be a top 5 pick next year. He'll be one year removed from playing any meaningful football, and there will be more talented DE's entering the draft next year. Bosa won't sniff anything near top 10, let alone top 5 next draft if he does sit out this year.
First overall pick Jared Goff does have deferrals but no offset language.
Second overall pick Carson Wentz does have offset language but only $1 million of deferral that is paid in January.
And since 2012, the third overall pick has either had: 1. No offset language with deferral; or 2. Offset language with bonus paid before January.
This year, 19 of the first 24 picks have had their signing bonus paid in full by the end of 2016.
For what it’s worth, last year’s top overall pick, Jameis Winston, had offset language and $6 million of his signing bonus deferred into the subsequent March.
The Chargers are offering something akin to the contract Jameis Winston signed.
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Sorry ... I don't get why he's risking losing money and hurting his team over the date that he gets his guaranteed money. Seems more likely his agent needs the money upfront than the player.
It's amazing how they treat this guy. They had him as the #1 player in the draft. They loved him and we're thrilled with the trades at top of draft allowed him to be there. And they fuck it up. What a mess they created.
It's amazing how they treat this guy. They had him as the #1 player in the draft. They loved him and we're thrilled with the trades at top of draft allowed him to be there. And they fuck it up. What a mess they created.
Got to be thrilled if you're the head coach!
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Once the draft starts, if Bosa hasn't signed, he is eligible to be selected again - SD's rights to him expire then.
Then I'd have to imagine Bosa loses a boatload of money, considering there no garauntee he'd be taken #3 next year, let alone in the top ten.
I side with the Chargers. Bosa is the one being unreasonable and downright greedy. Desiring offset language is bullshit. It's a player asking to be rewarded for being a bust. Basically it's his way of saying, "If it turns out I suck, I want to get paid double what I would be paid if I were any good." Fuck that!....
He can no longer be traded.
Also, you could be giving up the #1 pick for all you know. Too many variables to trade a future first in the NFL. Very few scenarios where it's worth it. This isnt one of them.
I know many like to immediately blame the player, but the Chargers are a shit organization.
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I see one of the following scenarios playing out:
1. Bosa signs with San Diego and plays this season.
2. Bosa does not sign with San Diego and the Chargers trade his rights away after Week 10.
3. Bosa and the Chargers make an agreement to trade the player to one of a pre-selected pool of teams, before the NFL trade deadline. Bosa signs prior to the deadline, so that he can play with his new team this season.
X. I do not see the Chargers allowing Bosa to re-enter the draft without trying to get something in return.
I think you're way off on this. Bosa is simply asking for the same conditions in his contract that other similarly drafted picks all have. He has repeatedly said that he's fine with either the deferment or offset language, but not both, which has been the case for every similarly slotted draft pick. Wanting the same stipulations as everyone else is neither greedy nor unreasonable on the part of the player, but it certainly is on the side of the the Chargers.
Whether or not this is a good career move for Bosa or whether the deferment and offset language should in fact be included as part of these contracts is certainly debatable. However, the fact of the matter is that the language Bosa is objecting to has not been included in the contract of any other player drafted in a similar slot this year and is pretty much never included in those slots to begin with so why should he agree to it?
5 million if he made 4 pro bowls and won 4 Super Bowls
7 million if he made 5 PBs and won 5 SBs
10 milion if he won them all and made the pro bowl every year
I side with the Chargers. Bosa is the one being unreasonable and downright greedy. Desiring offset language is bullshit. It's a player asking to be rewarded for being a bust. Basically it's his way of saying, "If it turns out I suck, I want to get paid double what I would be paid if I were any good." Fuck that!....
It's hardly bullshit. It's pretty much standard procedure in the nfl. Every top 5 pick since the new labor agreement has it.
I side with the Chargers. Bosa is the one being unreasonable and downright greedy. Desiring offset language is bullshit. It's a player asking to be rewarded for being a bust. Basically it's his way of saying, "If it turns out I suck, I want to get paid double what I would be paid if I were any good." Fuck that!....
What about if he gets hurt?
By the way, Bosa wanted offset language excluded. Its the team that wants it in there - on the one hand for whatever reason picks #2 and #4 do have it in there, on the other hand before this year it was rare for top picks to have it in their contracts.
If I'm the Charges i back off on the offset language -- but Bosa needs to back off on wanting all his signing bonus money now. What are the chances a team cuts the #3 overall pick by next spring? Even if he tears an ACL I really doubt they'd cut him.,..
Example using simple numbers. Joe Blow signs a four year fully guaranteed contract with Team A for $12M total with $3M of it due in the 4th and final year. After three years of sucky play, he is released by the team and signs a vet minimum deal with Team B for $750K. Without the offset language, he gets both the $3M he was guaranteed from Team A and the $750K from Team B for a total of $3.75M in year four. With the offset language he gets $2.25M from Team A and $750K from Team B in year four. So in the end, he still makes all the guaranteed money he was promised by Team A, it's just that a small portion of it comes from Team B.
I think that's a fair request when giving a contract to a guy who has never played a down of football in the NFL, especially given the bust rate for 1st round picks.
So getting back to your question: what if he gets hurt? If he gets hurt, that's a shame, but he still gets all the guaranteed money he was promised by the team that releases him. If they are able to recoup some of that from a team willing to give him another chance, so be it. It's not their fault he got hurt, it's part of the game that sucks for everyone involved (the player, the team, and the fans).
Barely a top 5 pick this year? He was the highest drafted non-QB.