NGT: Charges and Joey Bosa are "nowhere"

with how they are paying him, not how much they are paying him. I believe the Chargers want to pay it in installments whereas Bosa's camp wants a true up front bonus.

will be the wrong move on his part, imo

getting hurt this season by missing training camp. I'll go with pulled hammy.

The team is putting this out there to make Bosa look bad. That is not a good way of doing business. I am not sticking up for Bosa but if the original reports were true that he either wants his bonus money up front or does not want offset language in the contract then this should have been done by now.

out, does SD still own his rights or does he reenter the draft?

Was villainized by the NFL for not going there. That franchise is a fucking joke.

re-enters the draft but am not sure. Would SD get a comp pick?

In comment 13084585 Keith said:

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with how they are paying him, not how much they are paying him. I believe the Chargers want to pay it in installments whereas Bosa's camp wants a true up front bonus.

This. No matter what happens, I hope the Chargers take it hard in the brown eye.

SD owns his rights right up to the moment the 1st pick is called. At which point, he is draft eligible with no compensation for SD.

Another key milestone is Week 10. If Bosa does not sign before Week 10, he does not accrue a year of service.

but Rivers staying there has always been puzzling. I guess he loves the weather because there's no other reason to stay there, what a miserable franchise.

would trade him at this point and what value he has.

Not suggesting to the Giants per se, but whoever.

Hard to lose the #3 overall pick, but they could conceivably lose him for nothing.

It's already a bad situation, that would be a disaster.

Is there any precedent for a player sitting out the season in the NFL?

-How the signing bonus is paid
-offset language on the guaranteed money if he is cut (meaning if he signs with another team, anything that team pays him reduces the guaranteed money SD would owe him)

It is common for signing bonuses to be paid over 2 or 3 years to assist teams with cash flow issues and it is common for contracts to have the offset language. Bosa's camp will not agree to both, even though it has been reported that the picks on either side of him have agreed to both.

In my opinion Bosa is only hurting himself. As Randy said, he is an injury waiting to happen once he steps on the field and he basically has wasted his entire rookie season. With the lack of practice time allowed by the CBA, there is little chance he catches up this year.

The offer was "consistent" with "Chargers players. That is the key here, it wasn't consistent with other NFL top 5 selections.

I know many like to immediately blame the player, but the Chargers are a shit organization.

Played hardball with their pick, resulting in holdouts. No wonder Manning didn't want to go there.

wan't changed, then Bosa has a legitimate gripe.

In comment 13084644 LakeGeorgeGiant said:

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The offer was "consistent" with "Chargers players. That is the key here, it wasn't consistent with other NFL top 5 selections. I know many like to immediately blame the player, but the Chargers are a shit organization.

That's it. The only thing consistent is the garbage reputation of SD management and front office, year in, year out. It's not a secret that they openly hate their fans (try and fail to extort the city, then fail at leaving) and they hate their players (Weddell-gate).

In comment 13084644 LakeGeorgeGiant said:

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The offer was "consistent" with "Chargers players. That is the key here, it wasn't consistent with other NFL top 5 selections. I know many like to immediately blame the player, but the Chargers are a shit organization.

I noticed that too. There's a reason why they don't compare to other NFL contracts

In comment 13084626 Diver_Down said:

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SD owns his rights right up to the moment the 1st pick is called. At which point, he is draft eligible with no compensation for SD. Another key milestone is Week 10. If Bosa does not sign before Week 10, he does not accrue a year of service.

I do not believe this is true. A player is only eligible for the draft in the year after his college eligibility ends. Bosa's only "recourse" is to try and force a trade by refusing to sign. This was the same issue La'el Collins faced last year and is why the agents made all sorts of threats to discouraged teams from drafting him late. They desperately wanted him to make it to free agency so they could control where he signed and would sign for a shorter contract. If he were drafted, that team would control his rights.

In comment 13084597 robbieballs2003 said:

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The team is putting this out there to make Bosa look bad. That is not a good way of doing business. I am not sticking up for Bosa but if the original reports were true that he either wants his bonus money up front or does not want offset language in the contract then this should have been done by now.

I agree with you but sitting out the season is idiotic if you are Bosa. He will lose an entire year of pay, be drafted lower next year, and will become a free agent a year later.

I think SD has the leverage.

pressured teams because they did not want him to lose a year.

Once the draft starts, if Bosa hasn't signed, he is eligible to be selected again - SD's rights to him expire then.

I think a team like Dallas would be desperate to get a DE like Bosa.

that this is there best offer and will now pro-rate the offer for each week he misses. With Bosa turning down the current offer, he won't be eager to accept a lower offer each week that passes. At this point, SD should be calling around to see who will take Bosa off their hands.

SD has any leverage whatsoever. He can easily sit out, be a top 5 pick again and get even more money than he would have in SD.

Can't say I'm surprised that the Chargers released a public statement essentially made to embarrass Bosa. Classless.

In comment 13084616 widmerseyebrow said:

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This. No matter what happens, I hope the Chargers take it hard in the brown eye.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day....thanks!

In comment 13084694 idinkido said:

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I think a team like Dallas would be desperate to get a DE like Bosa.

I think the deadline has passed for the Chargers to trade their rights to Bosa for another team. So it's either sign him or risk losing him.

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In comment 13084694 idinkido said: Quote: I think a team like Dallas would be desperate to get a DE like Bosa. I think the deadline has passed for the Chargers to trade their rights to Bosa for another team. So it's either sign him or risk losing him.

SD can trade his rights up to the Draft. If he is signed, he can be traded up to the trade deadline.

Good for Bosa.

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I think SD has the leverage.

Maybe so, but San Diego is earning a reputation for being a place players don't want to play. This can only hurt the Chargers in the long run.

They should just pay the man the same fucking upfront bonus money that any other team would pay to a top five pick.

And Eli only looks smarter as the years go by and more of these incidents occur.

Seems like a silly issue to me.

In comment 13084698 ryanmkeane said:

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SD has any leverage whatsoever. He can easily sit out, be a top 5 pick again and get even more money than he would have in SD. Can't say I'm surprised that the Chargers released a public statement essentially made to embarrass Bosa. Classless.

Cannot see him as a top 5 pick next year at all. A year off, and a track record of being difficult (even though he's probably right in this scenario). He was barely a top 5 pick this year as Dallas was taking Elliot regardless, apparently.

a 1st in 2017 for him.....

In comment 13084750 ryanmkeane said:

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a 1st in 2017 for him.....

I'd start with a 2nd for him, but I like your thinking - nothing wrong with offering the 32 pick for him.

In comment 13084698 ryanmkeane said:

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SD has any leverage whatsoever. He can easily sit out, be a top 5 pick again and get even more money than he would have in SD. Can't say I'm surprised that the Chargers released a public statement essentially made to embarrass Bosa. Classless.

Bosa will not be a top 5 pick next year. He'll be one year removed from playing any meaningful football, and there will be more talented DE's entering the draft next year. Bosa won't sniff anything near top 10, let alone top 5 next draft if he does sit out this year.

From MMQB:

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First overall pick Jared Goff does have deferrals but no offset language. Second overall pick Carson Wentz does have offset language but only $1 million of deferral that is paid in January. And since 2012, the third overall pick has either had: 1. No offset language with deferral; or 2. Offset language with bonus paid before January. This year, 19 of the first 24 picks have had their signing bonus paid in full by the end of 2016. For what it’s worth, last year’s top overall pick, Jameis Winston, had offset language and $6 million of his signing bonus deferred into the subsequent March.

The Chargers are offering something akin to the contract Jameis Winston signed.

The deadline has passed to trade him.


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is a joke. Negotiate through the press? That just means more bad blood and an unhappy result.

Is he planning on spending all his bonus in October or something? Can't wait for a few million guaranteed until next year? Pretty ridiculous.

Sorry ... I don't get why he's risking losing money and hurting his team over the date that he gets his guaranteed money. Seems more likely his agent needs the money upfront than the player.

Bosa is unlikely to increase his total career earnings by sitting out this year.

and try to negotiate through the media is even more of a joke. Good luck getting players to negotiate with you in the future.

To things no other pick agrees to?

It's amazing how they treat this guy. They had him as the #1 player in the draft. They loved him and we're thrilled with the trades at top of draft allowed him to be there. And they fuck it up. What a mess they created.

dysfunctional NFL team. Chargers are a joke. Just ask Eli!

In comment 13084826 KWALL2 said:

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To things no other pick agrees to? It's amazing how they treat this guy. They had him as the #1 player in the draft. They loved him and we're thrilled with the trades at top of draft allowed him to be there. And they fuck it up. What a mess they created.

Got to be thrilled if you're the head coach!

San Diego for about 5 years - he told me that not only did the fans not care about the team, but they'd make it a point to not watch or go to games just because of how much they disliked the ownership.

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In comment 13084736 Vin R said: Quote: Perfect gif

Or pic