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in my 10-team non-ppr he went in the 9th round.

In my 12-team ppr keeper he went in the 6th round.

He's been good with bad QB's before.

In comment 13085675 pjcas18 said:

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in my 10-team non-ppr he went in the 9th round. In my 12-team ppr keeper he went in the 6th round. He's been good with bad QB's before.

what draft slot did you have in your ppr?
what is your team?

but bad QB's that threw the ball to the WR. RGMe is not great throwing to WR's at all.

league it's a keeper so hard to gauge if you're looking at what to expect.

I had the 5th pick, which I traded - to the dismay of every other team - for Odell Beckham.

My keepers were Gurley (5th round) Cooper (6th round)

We can start 4 WR's b/c we have two flexes and no mandatory TE.

My team is:

QB: Romo, RG3, prescott
RB: Gurley, Abdullah, Starks, D. Washington, K. Barner
WR: Beckham, Watkins, J. Landry, Cooper, M. Jones, D. Funchess, V. Cruz, M. Thomas
D/ST: Rams
K: none yet, need to drop someone

In comment 13085695 Keith said:

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but bad QB's that threw the ball to the WR. RGMe is not great throwing to WR's at all.

In pre-season or in general? He's been throwing to Terelle Pryor.

Pre-season means nothing. Less than nothing. When was the last WR that had good fantasy numbers with RG3 at QB?

In comment 13085710 Keith said:

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Pre-season means nothing. Less than nothing. When was the last WR that had good fantasy numbers with RG3 at QB?

Well I don't think he'll be running a read option.

2013, his last year as the starter:
Pierre Garcon:
113 catches, 1346 yards, 5 TD's

Some of that came from Cousins, but not much, Cousins had 850 yards all year.

But it's also relevant Garcon or an old Santana Moss were his best receivers. So, the read option and the WR quality of the WR's is relevant too.

I don't expect great things from RG3, and I doubt I ever start him or he last long on my bench, but I do think Gordon can have a good year with him at QB.

In comment 13085725 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13085710 Keith said: Quote: Pre-season means nothing. Less than nothing. When was the last WR that had good fantasy numbers with RG3 at QB? Well I don't think he'll be running a read option. 2013, his last year as the starter: Pierre Garcon: 113 catches, 1346 yards, 5 TD's Some of that came from Cousins, but not much, Cousins had 850 yards all year. But it's also relevant Garcon or an old Santana Moss were his best receivers. So, the read option and the WR quality of the WR's is relevant too. I don't expect great things from RG3, and I doubt I ever start him or he last long on my bench, but I do think Gordon can have a good year with him at QB.

Agreed. Totally dismissing RGIII is not smart. Having questions and concerns is legit.

I have a feeling someone in my league is going to reach for Gordon so he's been kind of off my radar. I would consider taking him if he was still hanging around and I already had 4 WR's on my team that I trusted.

Speaking of Browns WR's.. what about Terrelle Pryor? Is he on anyone's radar late?

Here are my keepers through 4 rounds

Cam
David Johnson
Demaryius Thomas
Jordy Nelson

I traded Devont Freeman to move up from 6th in the 6th round to 3rd in the fifth round. I will take more sure things with my 2 fifth round picks and if he is available in the 7th I will consider him with who is left. I am hoping to get another decent RB and WR although I will be going with the best player available. If I take 2 WRs then I will be more inclined to take a RB like Jennings if he is still available in the 7th. We only have to start 1 RB but obviously I cannot just completely rely on DJ.

In comment 13085738 arcarsenal said:

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Speaking of Browns WR's.. what about Terrelle Pryor? Is he on anyone's radar late?

He obviously is worth consideration as a late round guy. I think they force feed Coleman the ball so he is worth a spot. Pryot is a physical freak who has all but cemented that number 2 zpot with Gordon out. There is upside there. What is he 6'4" 240 with 4.3 speed?

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I also did an auction in a post-season league. 6 owners, each team starts 2 QB's, 4 RB's, 4 WR's, 2 TE's, 2 D/ST's and 2 K's. Symmetrically it's perfect with 12 playoff teams

I'm in a league this year with 2 QB's, 3RB's 3WR, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K, 1 flex - - how did you go about filling out your roster? Best player available or did you target positions

in any of the Browns receivers to be honest. I just can't get behind RG3 supporting any of these guy. Crowell is only Brown I have interest in

past the sixth pick? Hopkins? Green? Trust Elliott?

off.

In comment 13085772 JayBinQueens said:

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In yesterday's ff thread you said Quote: I also did an auction in a post-season league. 6 owners, each team starts 2 QB's, 4 RB's, 4 WR's, 2 TE's, 2 D/ST's and 2 K's. Symmetrically it's perfect with 12 playoff teams I'm in a league this year with 2 QB's, 3RB's 3WR, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K, 1 flex - - how did you go about filling out your roster? Best player available or did you target positions

the league I was in was post-season, so only playoff teams.

so it was different, but in your case if I were in a 2-QB league and it's 12 team and QB's get 6 pts per TD I go early with QB's.

12-team 2-QB leagues suck. if it's 10-team and 6pts per TD I'd still go QB early, but you don't need your 2nd one so early, and then I'd go BPA.

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off.

I showed you my other options. I didn't take Romo until the 11th or 12 round, so QB's were pretty much gone by then.

Here is what's left:

Flacco
Cutler
Smith
Osweiler
Goff
Bradford
Gabbert

that's pretty much it of the starting QB's.

I didn't see any of them as measurably better than RG3.

I could see maybe Goff for late round keeper potential, but his WR's are brutal

In comment 13085772 JayBinQueens said:

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In yesterday's ff thread you said Quote: I also did an auction in a post-season league. 6 owners, each team starts 2 QB's, 4 RB's, 4 WR's, 2 TE's, 2 D/ST's and 2 K's. Symmetrically it's perfect with 12 playoff teams I'm in a league this year with 2 QB's, 3RB's 3WR, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K, 1 flex - - how did you go about filling out your roster? Best player available or did you target positions

It depends where you draft. In a 12 team league if you pick at the end of the first your RB options seem limited throughout the draft. With 6 owners I doubt you havs that problem. BPA works if you can easily trade in your league. If not then you might bet better served to draft about 2 RBs and 2 WRs in your first 4 picks. Then you can load up more on WRs after and target some RBs later. However, with 2 QBs that throws a twist into it. I might target one of the top QBs in the first three rounds and then wait until late to get a guy Mariota or Palmer. Eli seems to be going around round 6ish in a 12 team league. Brady is going around the same time in CBS.

I think draft position plays a big role as well as your QB scoring. If QBs score a ton you may target 2 studs earlier than normal.

I could see Tavon Austin being worthy of a roster spot this year. He actually had 52 carries last year to go along with 52 catches so he gets a lot of touches. Almost 1,000 scrimmage yards and scored 9 times.

In comment 13085799 arcarsenal said:

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I could see Tavon Austin being worthy of a roster spot this year. He actually had 52 carries last year to go along with 52 catches so he gets a lot of touches. Almost 1,000 scrimmage yards and scored 9 times.

They were talking about Tavon on a podcast I listen to, and I had no idea he had nearly 500 yards on the ground. Makes for a good value play in late rounds.

As for Gordon, I think it boils down to personal philosophy: do you think talent and having "proven it" before trumps getting acclimated to a new system and time off?

In comment 13085789 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13085777 Keith said: Quote: off. I showed you my other options. I didn't take Romo until the 11th or 12 round, so QB's were pretty much gone by then. Here is what's left: Flacco Cutler Smith Osweiler Goff Bradford Gabbert that's pretty much it of the starting QB's. I didn't see any of them as measurably better than RG3. I could see maybe Goff for late round keeper potential, but his WR's are brutal

I'm picking up Cutler or Flacco off waivers just to give myself some sort of floor though as well.

I think your take on RG3 is too negative.

I don't want him under center for my team, but I don't view him as a retardant to WR production for fantasy. Remember -- Hugh Jackson is running that show now. I'm comfortable that the offense won't be entirely pathetic.

Having said that, I don't love Gordon simply for the fact of the 6 games. I don't follow snake drafting a ton, but I'm not a buyer anywhere near the ADPs I've seen. He won't be IR eligible in my leagues and I heavily value bench depth and roster flexibility. The roster spot is just too valuable for me. If I'm hurting at WR late in my auctions, maybe maybe a buck or two. But again, 6 weeks is longer than I want to tie up a roster slot.

I am going to try and take a flier on Terrelle Pryor.

hoya.. I think Gordon is only suspended 4 games, not 6. Just FYI...

I've never like RG3 as a passer or NFL QB. I don't think he's a good passer and I don't think he reads defenses well enough. His rookie year, the offense was perfect for him. It was all smoke and mirrors and allowed him to run a lot. He is not that guy. He's going to be forced to pass and I just don't think he's good at it. I think he's going to be a disaster in Cleveland eventually, but probably sooner rather than later.

as early as you can without sacrificing some player that can really help you out the first 4 weeks. He'll be very good.

In comment 13085821 arcarsenal said:

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hoya.. I think Gordon is only suspended 4 games, not 6. Just FYI...

My bad. Thanks for correcting. Maybe changes my view very slightly.

In comment 13085797 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 13085772 JayBinQueens said: Quote: In yesterday's ff thread you said Quote: I also did an auction in a post-season league. 6 owners, each team starts 2 QB's, 4 RB's, 4 WR's, 2 TE's, 2 D/ST's and 2 K's. Symmetrically it's perfect with 12 playoff teams I'm in a league this year with 2 QB's, 3RB's 3WR, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K, 1 flex - - how did you go about filling out your roster? Best player available or did you target positions It depends where you draft. In a 12 team league if you pick at the end of the first your RB options seem limited throughout the draft. With 6 owners I doubt you havs that problem. BPA works if you can easily trade in your league. If not then you might bet better served to draft about 2 RBs and 2 WRs in your first 4 picks. Then you can load up more on WRs after and target some RBs later. However, with 2 QBs that throws a twist into it. I might target one of the top QBs in the first three rounds and then wait until late to get a guy Mariota or Palmer. Eli seems to be going around round 6ish in a 12 team league. Brady is going around the same time in CBS. I think draft position plays a big role as well as your QB scoring. If QBs score a ton you may target 2 studs earlier than normal.

Thanks - pj, thanks too

It's actually 10 teams and 4pts for a passing td so I'm thinking of waiting on a QB until round 6 or so and maybe going back to back depending on who's available.

In comment 13085789 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13085777 Keith said: Quote: off. I showed you my other options. I didn't take Romo until the 11th or 12 round, so QB's were pretty much gone by then. Here is what's left: Flacco Cutler Smith Osweiler Goff Bradford Gabbert that's pretty much it of the starting QB's. I didn't see any of them as measurably better than RG3. I could see maybe Goff for late round keeper potential, but his WR's are brutal

With Hopkins being a monster, do people not trust Osweiler to put up numbers?

In comment 13085896 JayBinQueens said:

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In comment 13085789 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13085777 Keith said: Quote: off. I showed you my other options. I didn't take Romo until the 11th or 12 round, so QB's were pretty much gone by then. Here is what's left: Flacco Cutler Smith Osweiler Goff Bradford Gabbert that's pretty much it of the starting QB's. I didn't see any of them as measurably better than RG3. I could see maybe Goff for late round keeper potential, but his WR's are brutal With Hopkins being a monster, do people not trust Osweiler to put up numbers?

I think Houston becomes more of a running team. I am not a bug Osweiler fan but he did look decent last time out. I think he works for that team but in terms of being fantasy relevant there are just too many good QBs in the nfl to really draft Owsweiler unless it is a really deep type of league.

QB: Romo, Brady

RB: Jamaal, Langford, Deangelo Williams, Coleman, Sproles

WR: Cooper, Benjamin, Landry, Kevin White, Rishard Matthews

TE: Barnidge

Also, thanks for that tip about Tavon..might target him in my next draft

Charles in 1? Cooper in 2? Bad value on both, IMO. Don't like your team to be honest.

who else was available when you took Charles and Cooper at 10 and 15?

Assuming that was the order.

but 24 players were kept, a lot of which were RBs, so I took Jamaal at 10, Amari at 15, Kelvin with my 3rd.

Landry in rd 4 and Langford in rd5? If so, those are the only two picks that I like for you, haha. You don't have any strengths.

Your QB will be bottom half for the first 4 games, then top half.

Your RB's will probably be middle of the road.

Your WR's will be in the bottom of the league.

Your TE while solid, isn't in the upper echelon(especially with RG3).

keepers?

might want to say that, haha.

Brandon Marshall
Alshon
Keenan Allen
Brandin Cooks

I was between Demaryius and Amari at 15. McCoy and Lacy were also available

I'm not the best judge of keeper league teams but it just looks like a team that had no first rd pick. You should either have 1 WR or 1 RB who is a tier above Charles or Cooper.

deciding between D. Hopkins and AJ Green..

thoughts and opinions for each?

were my keepers. Yea sorry I should've mentioned that first. I traded some of my better keepers last year to make a run at the championship.

RB is my biggest concern. I don't have true stars at WR but I'm hoping in a .5 ppr I can get by..

this guy will never change. He has had this issues since high school. He is not going to suddenly get straight. He may come back this season but he WILL get another "random" test and then he will be gone again. I will bet anything that he does not last the season.

Plus, I am hearing that Cleveland wants to move him in the worst way. So, you never know where he could end up and what his role would be.

If you want to grab him with your very last pick then fine. However, in reading some of the comments where people have drafted him in the middle rounds... forget it. Better luck next year with your fantasy team

In comment 13086045 arcarsenal said:

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I'm not the best judge of keeper league teams but it just looks like a team that had no first rd pick. You should either have 1 WR or 1 RB who is a tier above Charles or Cooper.

I agree. This was the issue because Odell, AB, Julio, Deandre, Dez, and AJ were all gone by 10. Along with Zeke, Gurley, AP, Lamar, Leveon and David Johnson

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deciding between D. Hopkins and AJ Green.. thoughts and opinions for each?

I like Green a little more than Hopkins this year. I would take him. I would also seriously consider DJ, though. Don't know if 4th pick is taking him or not but if not and he's on the board.

In comment 13086058 knicks3031 said:

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In comment 13086045 arcarsenal said: Quote: I'm not the best judge of keeper league teams but it just looks like a team that had no first rd pick. You should either have 1 WR or 1 RB who is a tier above Charles or Cooper. I agree. This was the issue because Odell, AB, Julio, Deandre, Dez, and AJ were all gone by 10. Along with Zeke, Gurley, AP, Lamar, Leveon and David Johnson

Yeah it makes sense then since those players are basically all consensus 1st rounders this year for the most part.

In comment 13086061 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13086047 FiveSix said: Quote: deciding between D. Hopkins and AJ Green.. thoughts and opinions for each? I like Green a little more than Hopkins this year. I would take him. I would also seriously consider DJ, though. Don't know if 4th pick is taking him or not but if not and he's on the board.

How many teams? I would easily draft DJ if he is available and you will still get some great options at WR in the second and third.

10 teams, not sure i am on the DJ train yet, figured a safer bet would be with a strong WR1 that i know is going to be fed targets

In comment 13086091 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 13086061 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13086047 FiveSix said: Quote: deciding between D. Hopkins and AJ Green.. thoughts and opinions for each? I like Green a little more than Hopkins this year. I would take him. I would also seriously consider DJ, though. Don't know if 4th pick is taking him or not but if not and he's on the board. How many teams? I would easily draft DJ if he is available and you will still get some great options at WR in the second and third.

He's in a tier by himself right after the top 3 IMO.

Would it be crazy to take McCoy over Charles @ 2.8? I'm realizing that Charles falling to 2.8 is the scenario I am dreading because it means the first 17 picks were (likely)...

Brown, Beckham, Jones, DJ, Gurley, Hopkins, Peterson, Green, Marshall, Bryant, Robinson, Gronk, Allen, Miller, Elliott, Bell, Nelson

I would take any of the above players if they fell to 2.8 but I'm having a tough time bringing myself to take JC. So I passed on him to see what I'd wind up with and I really like this team.

Rivers, Stafford
McCoy, Forte, Hill, Gore, J White
Jones, Cooks, Floyd, Parker, Coleman
Reed

QB isn't ideal but a Rivers/Stafford combo should be pretty solid. I thought I could squeeze one more round out to wait for Eli because all 6 teams ahead of me had already taken a QB but the Rodgers team swiped him in the 9th rd.

It's possible I could have taken Cooper and gotten McCoy @ 3.3 but it's dicey and I felt like I'd rather make sure I get McCoy than risk losing out.. Cooks isn't a bad consolation as a WR2, IMO.

that's the only reason I don't take him at 2.8.

at 3.9 in my 10 team non-ppr, not sure he's a guy that ppr impacts much though anymore, at his age and in this offense not like his younger days in the Andy Reid offense.

Don't Evans this year? I think he'd be my pick there at 2.8 and I like him more than Cooks, Allen, & Cooper.

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I like Cooper a little more than Evans I think. Also, as far as RB goes I do like Ingram so I guess I could pretty safely assume I will fry he or McCoy @3.3 if I go WR in rd 2.

I think I just like the 2nd rd WR + McCoy/Ingram more than Charles and a 3rd rd WR but maybe I'm just over analyzing.

Don't know where "fry" came from. That should be "get".

and am planning on taking a WR then a RB. I should be able to get McCoy, Ingram, Lacy, or Martin in the early 3rd.

My dreaded issue is if I have Julio do I take Marshall or Allen in the 2nd? They all have the same bye. Maybe I'm over-thinking that.

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and am planning on taking a WR then a RB. I should be able to get McCoy, Ingram, Lacy, or Martin in the early 3rd. My dreaded issue is if I have Julio do I take Marshall or Allen in the 2nd? They all have the same bye. Maybe I'm over-thinking that.

I never worry about bye weeks when I draft my team, honestly. Literally the only time I might even consider it is if I am at a "coin flip" point with two players and can't decide.

I would do backflips if I could pair Julio with Marshall.

Why weaken your team over like 10 weeks when you can condense it into like 2? That means you are that much stronger for those 8 games or so.

no idea who to pick then. i’m hating the idea of dez/charles/elliott/peterson there

In comment 13086644 jgambrosio said:

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no idea who to pick then. i’m hating the idea of dez/charles/elliott/peterson there

David Johnson could fall to you and he'd be a good pick.

otherwise you could draft AJ Green.

Assuming the first 5 are in some order: Brown, Jones, Beckham, Gurley and Hopkins.

If Hopkins and say Johnson are swapped than Hopkins or Green would be good options IMO.

In comment 13086644 jgambrosio said:

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no idea who to pick then. i’m hating the idea of dez/charles/elliott/peterson there

Way too early for Charles. Wouldn't even consider him there.

I would take Green, Johnson or Hopkins. If all 3 are gone, I'd consider Gurley.

with Johnson and Ellington still there too. That being said, I’d rather pick the best RB than the 6th best WR at that point.

The latest rankings I saw has both Gurley and Johnson going 4/5. That leaves AP at 6 which I won’t touch, I had him on one team last year and he was very disappointing.

From the sound of the guys at the office, it will go Brown, Beckham, Jones, but there’s a wild card at 4 with a guy who isn’t big into football. In fact he’s a big Pats fan, so I’m hoping he stupidly takes Gronk. The fifth spot guy is a Bears fan, but that’s all I know about him.

He led the league in attempts, yards and TD's. He was the #1 workhorse RB in all of football.

I can certainly rationalize taking DJ over him in PPR leagues this year or Gurley in either format just because they're both younger and have so much upside but Peterson might be the safest player in FF

I am not throwing rodgers or newton out there due to the fact they will be gone within the first 5 picks in my draft.... so lets go with the next bunch. I have them ranked like this.

Roethlisberger
Brees
Luck
Wilson
Eli.

way too inconsistent and shit the bed when it mattered most, at least for my team. He had a couple big games, but more games with 60 yards and no TDs. He had seven fumbles as well which hurt the 100 yard, no TD games.

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I am not throwing rodgers or newton out there due to the fact they will be gone within the first 5 picks in my draft.... so lets go with the next bunch. I have them ranked like this. Roethlisberger Brees Luck Wilson Eli.

I'm not a huge SOS guy but I read Brees has the 4th hardest SOS of any QB you have listed (and really the hardest SOS of any QB being drafted).

I don't have a problem with those rankings, but everyone is all over Eli this year in my real drafts and mock drafts I have been in.

I'd love to have been able to get him.

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I am not throwing rodgers or newton out there due to the fact they will be gone within the first 5 picks in my draft.... so lets go with the next bunch. I have them ranked like this. Roethlisberger Brees Luck Wilson Eli.

I'd put Wilson ahead of Luck

In comment 13086737 jgambrosio said:

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way too inconsistent and shit the bed when it mattered most, at least for my team. He had a couple big games, but more games with 60 yards and no TDs. He had seven fumbles as well which hurt the 100 yard, no TD games.

What RB's run for 100+ every single week? He had six 100 yard games and a 200 yard game! How much better than that can a RB be?

If there are runners in this league who were more consistently having bigger games than Peterson I'd love to know who they were.

Week by week:

10 carries, 31 yards,
29 carries, 134 yards
20 carries, 126 yards, 2 TD
16 carries, 81 yards, 1 TD
26 carries, 60 yards
19 carries, 98 yards
20 carries, 103 yards
29 carries, 125 yards, 1 TD
26 carries, 203 yards, 1 TD
13 carries, 45 yards, 1 TD
29 carries, 158 yards, 2 TD
8 carries, 18 yards
23 carries, 69 yards, 1 TD
18 carries, 63 yards
22 carries, 104 yards, 1 TD
19 carries, 67 yards, 1 TD

I'd say he had about 3-4 "weak" games total. You're not going to find a RB who is more consistent than that.

His worst weeks were to close out the fantasy season and the playoffs. Weeks 13-15 he totaled 150 yards, 1 TD and 1 fumble. In week 11 when he also had 45 yards, he had a lost fumble.

Trust me, I know he compiled stats, but he didn’t play like the #1 pick in fantasy. I had a good team last year - I had Brady, Olsen, AP, Jeffery, Cooper, Baldwin, Diggs, etc. He was one of the reasons I missed out on a top playoff seed and lost in the 3rd place game.

...because he had a couple poor weeks that coincided with your playoff weeks? All that is is random chance. Todd Gurley had bad weeks down the stretch too. Are you avoiding him?

And Peterson had 104 yards and a TD in Week 15 which was a playoff week for almost any fantasy league.

Not really sure what your strategy is.. only draft players who were good during weeks 14-16 and hold a grudge/avoid them if they weren't?

Has ruled out AP also because he was "dissapointed" with his season last year. Beats me. But from the original "non expansion" teams in our league (original 8) I'm pretty sure he's the only one who has never made the finals. So take that for what it's worth.

league.

Peterson is a 31 year old running back who rushed for 350 times last year including the playoffs, 15th in YPC and led the league in fumbles with a 2nd year QB who now has a decent WR corps.

I don’t like Peterson this year, and yes, last year left a bad taste in my mouth.

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league. Peterson is a 31 year old running back who rushed for 350 times last year including the playoffs, 15th in YPC and led the league in fumbles with a 2nd year QB who now has a decent WR corps. I don’t like Peterson this year, and yes, last year left a bad taste in my mouth.

Lol for what reason? He finished 2nd or 3rd among RBs in standard. I don't know what "bad taste" he left. I was pointing out the traditionally worst player in my FF league was feeling as irrationally as you about AP.

All I'm seeing for the Vikings is still a run first oriented offense with a more efficient passing game, which means more scoring opportunities. Outside Gurley the Rams have the worst offense in the NFL. He's a beast but nothing beats the track record as AP. AP has finished top 3 every year he's been healthy. AP isn't exactly the type of player who would just fall off a map one year. I think he would retire before he put up an even mediocre season.

I'd love to be in a league with people who avoid stud players because they didn't perform in the FF playoffs the year before.

Again, show me the RB's who played a full slate of games last year and were more consistent than Peterson was.

I'll save you the time... there weren't any.

Dude was a beast last year.

The only thing you should care about is that he was the #2 overall fantasy RB last year behind only Freeman who was not an early pick. He is a bellcow back who will play 90% of their snaps and he's a freak of nature. That's all that matters.

7 TD's in the final 8 games of the season but somehow he "shit the bed". Weird logic.

I made the playoffs in both of my leagues last year and won the last league I was in before that, so it's not like I'm bad at fantasy football here.

Like I said, he had great games, but also some bad games. For my team, he helped me lose more games than win games. And he's also 31, even with a year off, the history of RBs over 30 is not spectacular.
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The dude is an amazing RB and probably the best runner in the game. Your mental block on AP makes absolutely no sense at all.

year he wasn't what I had hoped.

If he's there at 19 when it snakes back around, I'll be more than happy to take him.

and I took him. Carried my team to the finals.