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GMAN4LIFE : 8/25/2016 1:50 pm
anyone ever get a denial before? it said that i was ineligible yet I haven't broken any laws or anything.

anyone experience this before?
Do you travel internationally often?  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 1:52 pm : link
I only have KT, no Global Entry, but I do know you can appeal your Global Entry rejection.
i travel once a year outside the US.  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/25/2016 1:56 pm : link
.
I guess it's worth it  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 1:59 pm : link
I don't have it and I probably travel internationally a couple times a year. Domestically maybe 30 - 35 times, so known travel (TSA pre-check) is perfect for me.

you can be rejected on Global Entry for a variety of reasons, but I thought they usually tell you why. They didn't give you any indication?

all it says was that i didnt meet the requirements.  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/25/2016 1:59 pm : link
unsure what that means.
Your posting on BBI  
ColHowPepper : 8/25/2016 2:02 pm : link
is what disqualified you....jk

Only thing that comes to mind is too short a history of residence (associated utility, mtge, phone) records. Anything in the nature of your employer-employee history that might figure into GOES due diligence. Or when you had the face-to-face interview, did detect something in the interviewer's body language?
Maybe they saw...  
Chris in Philly : 8/25/2016 2:03 pm : link
the Call Me Maybe video. That was you, right?
RE: all it says was that i didnt meet the requirements.  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13086220 GMAN4LIFE said:
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unsure what that means.

Most of the disqualifications from what I know are court/legal issues.

I'd appeal if you want more details.
If this does not apply to you, disregard  
regulator : 8/25/2016 2:08 pm : link
but any sort of convictions, including DUI and petty drug charges, will generally disqualify an applicant from GE. Even charges of that nature that have been expunged can still tag you. In addition, if you have been caught carrying a prohibited item into the country, even something totally innocuous, and that was documented by CBP, you'd likely be disqualified.

Similarly, any arrests, convictions or noncompliance with customs regs while you have GE can get you bounced from the program.
still odd because none of that applies to me  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/25/2016 2:15 pm : link
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Interview  
Sarcastic Sam : 8/25/2016 2:27 pm : link
Was this before or after your interview?
Is your first name Osama?  
regulator : 8/25/2016 2:30 pm : link
I'd appeal, in that case.
I am...  
nccowboyfan : 8/25/2016 2:33 pm : link
...not buying the "Aww shucks, I didn't do nothing" argument.

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To qualify for one of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Trusted Traveler Programs, you must voluntarily undergo a thorough background check against criminal, law enforcement, customs, immigration, agriculture, and terrorist indices to include biometric fingerprint checks, and a personal interview with a CBP officer.

In the event you are denied or revoked from the Trusted Traveler Programs, you will be provided information in writing detailing the reason for this action.
About 1% are denied every year  
B in ALB : 8/25/2016 2:35 pm : link
You may not be eligible for participation in the Global Entry program if you:

Provide false or incomplete information on the application;

Have been convicted of any criminal offense or have pending criminal charges or outstanding warrants (to include driving under the influence);

Have been found in violation of any customs, immigration or agriculture regulations or laws in any country;

Are the subject of an ongoing investigation by any federal, state or local law enforcement agency;

Are inadmissible to the United States under immigration regulation, including applicants with approved waivers of inadmissibility or parole documentation; or

Cannot satisfy CBP of your low-risk status.
huh, i think its really odd you were denied.  
big_blue : 8/25/2016 2:35 pm : link
The process to get my GE was 10 minutes and received the ability to use it that day. - you were denied before the interview? I just signed up and set a time for the interview and that was it.
maybe my past address? no clue  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/25/2016 2:38 pm : link
and im not lying. all it says under the reasons is

"Doesnt meet the requirements for eligibility"
and this was before the interview. this was just the application  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/25/2016 2:39 pm : link
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do you have any family members  
B in ALB : 8/25/2016 2:46 pm : link
under investigation? serious criminal history?
Now you will have  
NoPeanutz : 8/25/2016 2:48 pm : link
"denied Global Entry authorization" pop up every time you apply for a job, try to buy a plane ticket or go through customs.
i just came back from aruba so i doubt it...  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/25/2016 2:55 pm : link
fuck this shit
RE: huh, i think its really odd you were denied.  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13086306 big_blue said:
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The process to get my GE was 10 minutes and received the ability to use it that day. - you were denied before the interview? I just signed up and set a time for the interview and that was it.


Are you sure you mean global entry, not known traveler? Maybe you do, all I've heard about GE is it takes longer than what you describe.

Global entry requires background checks from what I know.

I did what you describe for known traveler, and I received my TSA pre-check KT number the same day.
Aruba huh? Dutch or French side?  
BlueLou : 8/25/2016 3:05 pm : link
If Dutch, maybe that's it.


"Tea houses" and everything...
RE: Aruba huh? Dutch or French side?  
B in ALB : 8/25/2016 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13086351 BlueLou said:
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If Dutch, maybe that's it.


"Tea houses" and everything...


Aruba has a "French side" now? Huh.
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big_blue : 8/25/2016 3:10 pm : link
Are you sure you mean global entry, not known traveler? Maybe you do, all I've heard about GE is it takes longer than what you describe.

Global entry requires background checks from what I know.

I did what you describe for known traveler, and I received my TSA pre-check KT number the same day.



- Yeah it was for GE - the interview was a month or two out from when I applied - But got to pick an interview time when I signed up and the interview was 10 mins.
RE: all it says was that i didnt meet the requirements.  
EricJ : 8/25/2016 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13086220 GMAN4LIFE said:
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unsure what that means.


usually it has something to do with emotional stability
RE: RE: all it says was that i didnt meet the requirements.  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/25/2016 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13086365 EricJ said:
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In comment 13086220 GMAN4LIFE said:


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unsure what that means.



usually it has something to do with emotional stability


you are sayuing they are denying me because of my known anxiety issues? man.. the government really does know everything
Google it  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 3:23 pm : link
you will find some crazy stuff the government knows.

One lady commented that one trip she was coming back from Europe to the US and at customs they asked her if she had anything to declare, she said no, and then the drug sniffing dog found an apple in her luggage which is against customs protocol. so they throw the apple away and she gets through customs, gets her checked bag, gets in her car and goes home.

later (months at least), she applied for GE and they asked her about that incident. They never took her name, never asked her for ID or anything, and filled out no reports, simply found the apple and threw it out. She was surprised they even knew about it.
i read something about  
B in ALB : 8/25/2016 3:29 pm : link
a guy who was denied because his wife was caught with a truck load of illegals trying to cross over from mexico. And the husband didn't even know about it. Ouch.
RE: Google it  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2016 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13086385 pjcas18 said:
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you will find some crazy stuff the government knows.

One lady commented that one trip she was coming back from Europe to the US and at customs they asked her if she had anything to declare, she said no, and then the drug sniffing dog found an apple in her luggage which is against customs protocol. so they throw the apple away and she gets through customs, gets her checked bag, gets in her car and goes home.

later (months at least), she applied for GE and they asked her about that incident. They never took her name, never asked her for ID or anything, and filled out no reports, simply found the apple and threw it out. She was surprised they even knew about it.

When you go thru Customs, you hand them your passport.
RE: RE: Google it  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13086490 Jim in Fairfax said:
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you will find some crazy stuff the government knows.

One lady commented that one trip she was coming back from Europe to the US and at customs they asked her if she had anything to declare, she said no, and then the drug sniffing dog found an apple in her luggage which is against customs protocol. so they throw the apple away and she gets through customs, gets her checked bag, gets in her car and goes home.

later (months at least), she applied for GE and they asked her about that incident. They never took her name, never asked her for ID or anything, and filled out no reports, simply found the apple and threw it out. She was surprised they even knew about it.


When you go thru Customs, you hand them your passport.

Not where the dogs are, that's when you get to the customs agent. this was in line to get to the customs agent where you hand them the declaration form.
You screwed up the application  
Deej : 8/25/2016 5:00 pm : link
"Why do you hate America" was a trick question. You were supposed to say "I dont".
RE: RE: RE: Google it  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2016 5:15 pm : link
In comment 13086495 pjcas18 said:
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Not where the dogs are, that's when you get to the customs agent. this was in line to get to the customs agent where you hand them the declaration form.

On which you've written your name and passport number.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Google it  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 5:21 pm : link
In comment 13086512 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Not where the dogs are, that's when you get to the customs agent. this was in line to get to the customs agent where you hand them the declaration form.


On which you've written your name and passport number.


Different person has it. Depending on the airport, you hand your green form to the person who seems like a TSA employee in level and training, you then answer some questions at a kiosk, and you then walk through roped off lines where they have trained dogs (sometimes) as you make your way to the border patrol agents.

this is where the lady was caught with the apple.

but whatever, you have zero idea what you're talking about, but for some reason seem to want to discredit it.

I see no need to defend or explain further. I have traveled internationally extensively and believe the story to be 100% true.

if you're implying they
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Google it  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2016 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13086518 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13086495 pjcas18 said:


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Not where the dogs are, that's when you get to the customs agent. this was in line to get to the customs agent where you hand them the declaration form.


On which you've written your name and passport number.



Different person has it. Depending on the airport, you hand your green form to the person who seems like a TSA employee in level and training, you then answer some questions at a kiosk, and you then walk through roped off lines where they have trained dogs (sometimes) as you make your way to the border patrol agents.

this is where the lady was caught with the apple.

but whatever, you have zero idea what you're talking about, but for some reason seem to want to discredit it.

I see no need to defend or explain further. I have traveled internationally extensively and believe the story to be 100% true.

if you're implying they

I've been thru customs many times as well. You start at Passport Control - the officer reviews your passport and declaration form. He gives it back to you, Then you go pick up your baggage. Then you go to a customs officer who checks your declaration form and sometimes asks you questions. I'm sure he noted the apple on her form, and that dinged her in the database.

What's you're alternative explanation? That they're using high tech photo recognition software and some guy back in Washington is reviewing video and logging illegal apples?
RE: RE: RE: Google it  
section125 : 8/25/2016 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13086495 pjcas18 said:
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you will find some crazy stuff the government knows.

One lady commented that one trip she was coming back from Europe to the US and at customs they asked her if she had anything to declare, she said no, and then the drug sniffing dog found an apple in her luggage which is against customs protocol. so they throw the apple away and she gets through customs, gets her checked bag, gets in her car and goes home.

later (months at least), she applied for GE and they asked her about that incident. They never took her name, never asked her for ID or anything, and filled out no reports, simply found the apple and threw it out. She was surprised they even knew about it.


When you go thru Customs, you hand them your passport.


Not where the dogs are, that's when you get to the customs agent. this was in line to get to the customs agent where you hand them the declaration form.


Well her name was on the declaration with her PP#....
from what I read the dog  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 6:23 pm : link
found the apple while she was in line waiting to meet with the border patrol agent, and the dog and agent came up to her and the agent with the dog asked her to open her bag, she did the dog found the apple and they threw it out.

You can suggest all kids of theories. The agent with the dog did not ask for any documentation from her, yet months later when she applied for GE they asked her about the incident. She was approved for GE after explaining she forgot she had the apple in her bag, but still surprised they asked her about it given the circumstances.

I don't know how they were able to link her to the incident, that was the point.
Having worked for the government, I would not be surprised if it were  
Marty in Albany : 8/25/2016 7:33 pm : link
something stupid and obvious, or rather obviously stupid like your use of an alias on this board.
I have TSA PreCheck  
B in ALB : 8/25/2016 7:54 pm : link
for some reason for free. I fly probably 35-40 times a year. Too bad the ALB airport TSA PreCheck is only open some of the time. Fuckin one-horse town bitch ass airport - 20 TSA "agents" in their ridiculous quasi-cop uniforms standing around doing nothing.
RE: I have TSA PreCheck  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 8:06 pm : link
In comment 13086631 B in ALB said:
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for some reason for free. I fly probably 35-40 times a year. Too bad the ALB airport TSA PreCheck is only open some of the time. Fuckin one-horse town bitch ass airport - 20 TSA "agents" in their ridiculous quasi-cop uniforms standing around doing nothing.


Where do you fly out to mostly? Do you get to take advantage of it coming home? Is Albany generally crowded? It's great in airports like Atlanta, Denver, Dallas, Orlando, Vegas, etc.

I fly out of Logan mostly, so it's great, never take shoes off, belt off, laptop out of my bag, any liquids stay in my bag plus breeze through the lines.

Most major airports that I go to have it, and I got it free too, because of my American Express card.
RE: RE: I have TSA PreCheck  
B in ALB : 8/25/2016 8:11 pm : link
In comment 13086635 pjcas18 said:
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for some reason for free. I fly probably 35-40 times a year. Too bad the ALB airport TSA PreCheck is only open some of the time. Fuckin one-horse town bitch ass airport - 20 TSA "agents" in their ridiculous quasi-cop uniforms standing around doing nothing.



Where do you fly out to mostly? Do you get to take advantage of it coming home? Is Albany generally crowded? It's great in airports like Atlanta, Denver, Dallas, Orlando, Vegas, etc.

I fly out of Logan mostly, so it's great, never take shoes off, belt off, laptop out of my bag, any liquids stay in my bag plus breeze through the lines.

Most major airports that I go to have it, and I got it free too, because of my American Express card.


I very rarely fly back from the same airport more than once a year. I'll visit one spot and that's it for a year+. Places like Baton Rouge, New Orleans, KC, MSP, and sometimes BHM are the exceptions. I get TSA PC on both legs.
You don't have free TSA Pre-check  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2016 8:36 pm : link
Rather you're being granted one time access on a frequent basis.

TSA has what they call a "managed inclusion" program, whereby people who are not registered as Trusted Travelers" are granted access to the Precheck lines. This is done one a flight by flight basis. Your odds of getting this free perk go up if you are a frequent flier.

But the party will end eventually. Once TSA works out some capacity issues, managed inclusion will end and only Trusted Travelers will get access.
RE: You don't have free TSA Pre-check  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 8:46 pm : link
In comment 13086653 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Rather you're being granted one time access on a frequent basis.

TSA has what they call a "managed inclusion" program, whereby people who are not registered as Trusted Travelers" are granted access to the Precheck lines. This is done one a flight by flight basis. Your odds of getting this free perk go up if you are a frequent flier.

But the party will end eventually. Once TSA works out some capacity issues, managed inclusion will end and only Trusted Travelers will get access.


not sure if you mean B or me, but holy shit, do you just disagree with everything.

I have a platinum American Express card that gives me an $85 statement credit which is equal to the TSA pre-check application fee. So yeah, I have free TSA Pre-check.

I filled out the application, met with the interviewer, and was assigned a Known Traveler # and it cost me nothing, it's not whatever you described above.
RE: RE: You don't have free TSA Pre-check  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2016 8:55 pm : link
In comment 13086665 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13086653 Jim in Fairfax said:


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Rather you're being granted one time access on a frequent basis.

TSA has what they call a "managed inclusion" program, whereby people who are not registered as Trusted Travelers" are granted access to the Precheck lines. This is done one a flight by flight basis. Your odds of getting this free perk go up if you are a frequent flier.

But the party will end eventually. Once TSA works out some capacity issues, managed inclusion will end and only Trusted Travelers will get access.



not sure if you mean B or me, but holy shit, do you just disagree with everything.

I have a platinum American Express card that gives me an $85 statement credit which is equal to the TSA pre-check application fee. So yeah, I have free TSA Pre-check.

I filled out the application, met with the interviewer, and was assigned a Known Traveler # and it cost me nothing, it's not whatever you described above.

Free huh? Platinum Amex has a $450 annual fee. Unless you got that waived somehow, then you paid for TSA Precheck.
My company  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 9:01 pm : link
pays my $450 Platinum Amex annual fee mister know-it-all. You just don't quit do you. There is nothing you don't know.

So forget the $85 pre-check statement, the $200 annual airline statement credit, which together are over half the annual fee even if I paid for it myself, the Platinum Card comes with hundreds of benefits that very easily pay for the annual fee on things I'd normally have to pay for anyway.
RE: My company  
B in ALB : 8/25/2016 9:15 pm : link
In comment 13086696 pjcas18 said:
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pays my $450 Platinum Amex annual fee mister know-it-all. You just don't quit do you. There is nothing you don't know.

So forget the $85 pre-check statement, the $200 annual airline statement credit, which together are over half the annual fee even if I paid for it myself, the Platinum Card comes with hundreds of benefits that very easily pay for the annual fee on things I'd normally have to pay for anyway.


This.

And thanks Jim for pointing out what we already know. Gold star!
RE: My company  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2016 9:21 pm : link
In comment 13086696 pjcas18 said:
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pays my $450 Platinum Amex annual fee mister know-it-all. You just don't quit do you. There is nothing you don't know.

So forget the $85 pre-check statement, the $200 annual airline statement credit, which together are over half the annual fee even if I paid for it myself, the Platinum Card comes with hundreds of benefits that very easily pay for the annual fee on things I'd normally have to pay for anyway.

Well, it's certainly worth it if you have somebody else footing the bill.

Regardless of who paid, somebody paid the $85 fee and you submitted an application for Trusted Traveler. As for B in Alb, the context of his post led me to believe he never applied for Trusted Traveler. I was explaining why he was getting TSA Precheck despite that. He can tell me if I was wrong on what I inferred.
OK  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2016 9:23 pm : link
So I guess I stand corrected.
RE: RE: My company  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 9:30 pm : link
In comment 13086743 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 13086696 pjcas18 said:


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pays my $450 Platinum Amex annual fee mister know-it-all. You just don't quit do you. There is nothing you don't know.

So forget the $85 pre-check statement, the $200 annual airline statement credit, which together are over half the annual fee even if I paid for it myself, the Platinum Card comes with hundreds of benefits that very easily pay for the annual fee on things I'd normally have to pay for anyway.


Well, it's certainly worth it if you have somebody else footing the bill.

Regardless of who paid, somebody paid the $85 fee and you submitted an application for Trusted Traveler. As for B in Alb, the context of his post led me to believe he never applied for Trusted Traveler. I was explaining why he was getting TSA Precheck despite that. He can tell me if I was wrong on what I inferred.


Well that part was actually interesting because I've been in the tsa pre-check line, since it's on all my boarding passes and every now and then the tsa screeners do seem to randomly directly non tsa pre-check travelers to the tsa pre-check line and I never knew how or why.
RE: RE: RE: My company  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2016 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13086762 pjcas18 said:
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Well that part was actually interesting because I've been in the tsa pre-check line, since it's on all my boarding passes and every now and then the tsa screeners do seem to randomly directly non tsa pre-check travelers to the tsa pre-check line and I never knew how or why.

That's actually only half of it. Airlines are also authorized to stamp boarding passes with TSA Precheck for flyers who aren't Trusted Travekers if their info checks out against the TSA Safe flyer database,

They've been doing this to cut back on the horrendous lines in the main queues. They recently cut back on the number of people getting access this way, and eventually are supposed to phase out completely.

Sorry that i got under your skin.
RE: RE: RE: RE: My company  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2016 10:48 pm : link
In comment 13086806 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Well that part was actually interesting because I've been in the tsa pre-check line, since it's on all my boarding passes and every now and then the tsa screeners do seem to randomly directly non tsa pre-check travelers to the tsa pre-check line and I never knew how or why.


That's actually only half of it. Airlines are also authorized to stamp boarding passes with TSA Precheck for flyers who aren't Trusted Travekers if their info checks out against the TSA Safe flyer database,

They've been doing this to cut back on the horrendous lines in the main queues. They recently cut back on the number of people getting access this way, and eventually are supposed to phase out completely.

Sorry that i got under your skin.


LOL, you didn't, no apology necessary, I shouldn't have snapped at you. I just felt like I had to defend myself.

No big deal on my end.
I have the global entry ID  
EricJ : 8/25/2016 11:31 pm : link
and got it the first week Pre Check was available at Newark a few years ago. Initially it was great. I was the only one in the Pre-check line. Then just a handful of people. Now, they let everyone through there even people who have never been pre-screened like I was.

Apparently TSA was coerced by United to let more people through PRe check so that they were not busy rebooking people after being late for the flights and also to improve the travel experience at Newark. Meanwhile, now we are less safe than pre 9/11 because these people are not being screened properly.
Damn thought this was a "Mobile Strike" thread  
DennyInDenville : 8/25/2016 11:45 pm : link
Love that game. I'm like 2 weeks from t4
RE: Damn thought this was a  
Kulish29 : 8/25/2016 11:57 pm : link
In comment 13086917 DennyInDenville said:
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Love that game. I'm like 2 weeks from t4


I have no problem with you being a pot head but, you're not funny, nor are your posts endearing to anyone. You should curb your thoughts unless you have something intelligent to say. Until then, take a bong rip and, go watch some Cartoon Network.
My wife  
Bubba : 8/26/2016 10:34 am : link
and I got our GE a few years ago. They seem to be more strict now. They are also swamped with new applicants more than ever. My son applied in June and the soonest he could get his interview is mid Sept. When we applied it was 2 weeks between the application time and the interview.

I have heard most denials are a result of an incorrect/inaccurate answer on the app. I believe you can call and arrange an appointment to discuss it. It might be something simple. I encourage you to explore this further.
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