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Predictions For Final 2016 Roster

geelabee : 8/25/2016 9:42 pm
Like to first get opinions on the following:

1) Predict how many players are kept at each position group?

2) Based on each position group who is still Practice Squad eligible?

Position Group#s
Practice Squad Eligible/ IR**

QB (2)

RB (4)
O Darkwa**
M Coprich**

FB (0)
J Whitlock**

TE (4)
M LaCosse**
J Adams**
R Malleck

WR (7)
M White**
R Lewis**
T King**
D Powe**
K Maye**
A Dable**

OL (8)
J Rodgers**
E Cleary**
B Jones**
S McDermott**

DT (5)
L Nix**
G Milhouse**

DE (4)
R Okwara**
M Rose**

LB (6)
B Bars**
I Williams**

CB (5)
D Deayon**
M Hunter**
M Smalley (IR)

S (5)
M Thompson**
C Taylor**
J Currie**

ST (3)

Based on let me know your thoughts...My Prediction for Giants 2016 Final 53 Man Roster:

Offense 25

QB (2)
E Manning
R Nassib

RB (4)
R Jennings
S Vereen
A Williams
P Perkins

FB (0)

TE (4)
W Tye
L Donnell
M LaCosse
W Johnson


WR (7)
O Beckham
V Cruz
S Shepard
G Davis
D Harris
M White
R Lewis

OL (8)
E Flowers
J Pugh
W Richberg
J Jerry
W Beatty (Vet Free Agent Signing)
M Newhouse
B Hart
E Cleary**

DT (5)
D Harrison
J Hankins
J Bromley
M Hughes
G Milhouse

DE (4)
JPP
O Vernon
OO
K Wynn

LB (6)
D Kennard
K Sheppard
J Casillas
J Thomas
K Robinson
B Goodson

CB (5)
D Rogers-Cromartie
J Jenkins
E Apple
T Wade
L Hall

S (4)
L Collins
D Thompson
N Berhe
B Jackson

ST (3)
B Wing
J Brown
Z DeOssie


Not close  
XBRONX : 8/25/2016 9:46 pm : link
you cut our starting MLB?
The coaches were really complimentary to  
Bill in UT : 8/25/2016 9:50 pm : link
Deayon this week. I think he stays, Jackson goes, and Hall plays safety in a pinch.
RE: Not close  
geelabee : 8/25/2016 9:54 pm : link
In comment 13086775 XBRONX said:
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you cut our starting MLB?


Jasper Brinkley is the equivalent of Jameel McClain from a few years ago...starting MLB and leading tackler one year...the next year he is cut and never plays in the league again. Brinkley is 30 years old, unathlethic 2 down journeyman MLB who can't run or play special teams...NFL today is a passer league...teams prefer smaller LBs that can run...would not surprise me if he gets cut.
I think  
CMicks3110 : 8/25/2016 9:57 pm : link
Whitlock makes the roster. I also think he shoudl be in the pass rush formation during obvious passing downs, he was a hell of a rusher last year.
RE: The coaches were really complimentary to  
geelabee : 8/25/2016 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13086783 Bill in UT said:
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Deayon this week. I think he stays, Jackson goes, and Hall plays safety in a pinch.


A toss up with who ever gets cut ending up on the practice squad. I chose to cut D Deayon since with his size he is probably least likely to get picked up by another team. B Jackson last summer was going to be our starting S...plus he can play C and a good special teams player.
Not bad  
DavidinBMNY : 8/25/2016 10:18 pm : link
I think both Thompsons make it. Bennet Jackson making the t3 would require some great games.

I think Adams and Whitlock Make it. They need guys who can block.

I don't think they will keep 7 wr or 5 dt.

Okwara and Wynn are in a battle. Both could make it.
I don't think Adams will be on the PS.......  
Simms11 : 8/25/2016 10:21 pm : link
I think he'll push Donnell off the roster!
RE: Not bad  
geelabee : 8/25/2016 11:08 pm : link
In comment 13086830 DavidinBMNY said:
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I think both Thompsons make it. Bennet Jackson making the t3 would require some great games.

I think Adams and Whitlock Make it. They need guys who can block.

I don't think they will keep 7 wr or 5 dt.

Okwara and Wynn are in a battle. Both could make it.


You have a valid point here...checked the official roster after final cuts last year Giants kept 10 DL last year....maybe they only keep 9 DL and go 5 DEs and 4 DTs this year
Five DTs would be a waste.  
Klaatu : 8/26/2016 8:50 am : link
They usually only have three active on gamedays, and most of our DEs pull double-duty inside anyway. Last year they did keep 10 DL, but still only four DTs. Six DEs had more to do with JPP's injury.

This year, they could go as little as four DEs - my guess would be JPP, OV, OO, and Romeo Okwara - and four DTs - Snacks, Hankins, Bromley, and Milhouse. They could, conceivably, keep a 5th DE, but they'll probably use Kennard up front in certain packages.

I'd keep five Safeties, though, primarily for help on special teams.

I'm not sure how many WRs they'll keep, but I'm leaning more towards six than seven.
My  
AcidTest : 8/26/2016 8:52 am : link
thoughts:

I'm 90% sure I've seen enough of Donnell. The Giants of course may well disagree. But if his blocking was going to improve, it would have done so by now. I'd rather keep Adams. Many teams had a mid round grade on him. He slipped to the sixth because of some character concerns.

King over White.

We're not resigning Beatty. That's done.

Okwara makes the 53. Wynn, Hughes, and Nix fight for the 9th DT/DE spot. Agree about Milhouse.

Deayon over Wade. Remember that Deayon can return punts.

Assuming his concussion is OK, M. Thompson over Jackson. If it isn't, then he goes on IR, and it's Taylor.
It would be nice if we actually saw a Tight End  
Jimmy Googs : 8/26/2016 8:59 am : link
worth keeping during the game this weekend.

Right now, its who is the least worst...
RE: It would be nice if we actually saw a Tight End  
Klaatu : 8/26/2016 9:11 am : link
In comment 13087025 Jimmy Googs said:
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worth keeping during the game this weekend.

Right now, its who is the least worst...


Which is pretty damning when you consider that it looks like with McAdoo at the helm, the TEs will be featured much more prominently (and in a wider variety of roles) than they have been in the past. I suppose the next two preseason games will be very telling, but what they'll actually tell us is anybody's guess at this point.

Personally, I would have put Donnell's head on the chopping block after his performance against Buffalo. To me, it was simply mind-blowing how awful he looked, but it reinforced what I've been saying about the guy for several weeks now. As for "everybody's All-American," the feel-good story of 2015, Will Tye, I guess I just don't see what everyone else is seeing. Again, to me it looks like when it's 3rd and 8, Tye is good for a 7-yard completion.
Donnell certainly gave every D-Coordinator in the league  
Jimmy Googs : 8/26/2016 9:17 am : link
a nice picture of how to attack the Giant offense...
Darkwa makes the final roster  
George Adams : 8/26/2016 10:00 am : link
he's excellent on special teams, that will be the deciding factor
RE: Darkwa makes the final roster  
geelabee : 8/26/2016 11:32 am : link
In comment 13087143 George Adams said:
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he's excellent on special teams, that will be the deciding factor


Problem is most likely they only have 4 Rb slots what they kept last year meaning they would need to cut A Williams a 4th round pick in 2014 who has lost weight and looks good so far this year..while Darkwa was a free agent that has been quiet so far...They would need to Williams in order to keep Darkwa...dont see that happening
Question for the group  
geelabee : 8/26/2016 11:39 am : link
is O Darkwa eligible for the practice squad??
They're not going with 8 OL and 7 WR  
BillT : 8/26/2016 12:20 pm : link
9 OL at the minimum. We don't have the backuops to cover the positions with only 8. 7 WR just means 2 inactive WR on the 46 man. That's a wasted spot.
Based on the TE blocking thus far.....  
njm : 8/26/2016 12:52 pm : link
there WILL be a FB on the final 53.

Also, I believe that Darkwa, Whitlock, Cleary and Taylor are all ineligible for the PS
RE: Based on the TE blocking thus far.....  
geelabee : 8/26/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13087438 njm said:
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there WILL be a FB on the final 53.

Also, I believe that Darkwa, Whitlock, Cleary and Taylor are all ineligible for the PS


Thanks that really clarifies things as far as the players listed above..if it close with other players that can be stashed on practice squad that has to be factored into the decision of who gets kept...

Also to answer BillT above..the Giants kept 8 OL and 6 WR following final cuts in 2015...in 2014 the kept 7 WRs
I believe McAdoo dropped a hint about the O-Line the other day...  
Klaatu : 8/26/2016 2:46 pm : link
When he was interviewed on Giants Training Camp Live. He was talking about Bobby Hart being versatile, and I believe he mentioned only having seven O-Linemen active on gameday. I could be wrong, but that's what I recall. If that's true, I can't see them keeping more than eight. The five starters we have now, plus two versatile interior guys - my guess would Hart and McDermott - and a swing tackle, either Stingily or Rodgers.
When asked about his blocking TE's execution,  
Jimmy Googs : 8/26/2016 2:56 pm : link
Coach McAdoo said he was in favor of it...
RE: When asked about his blocking TE's execution,  
Klaatu : 8/26/2016 3:11 pm : link
In comment 13087688 Jimmy Googs said:
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Coach McAdoo said he was in favor of it...




Yeah, like you came up with that all by yourself.
Where did you get a picture of me?  
Jimmy Googs : 8/26/2016 3:17 pm : link
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If K Wynn gets cut  
geelabee : 8/26/2016 3:41 pm : link
Assuming the Giants only go 4 DEs and keep R Okwara instead is he eligible for the practice squad??
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