NFT: Fantasy Football Discussion 8/26

picking from the 12th spot I had. 12 teams total.

Eli

Bell
Foster
Jennings
Riddick

Green
Evans
Landry
Gordon
Coleman
Sharpe

Ertz

Gano

Pats

draft on Sunday and we're allowed to bring in paper but all phones/computers need to be kept outside the draft room. Does anyone have a recommendation as to what might be good to print out to give me some baseline player rankings to work from?

took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26.

In comment 13087093 DanMetroMan said:

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took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26.

Lacy looks good.

In comment 13087092 Metnut said:

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draft on Sunday and we're allowed to bring in paper but all phones/computers need to be kept outside the draft room. Does anyone have a recommendation as to what might be good to print out to give me some baseline player rankings to work from?

Here - ( New Window )

In comment 13087093 DanMetroMan said:

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took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26.

I'm firmly on the Lacy train this year. I think he's going to have his best season.

much luck involved in head to head fantasy football over a full season and yet I still love it lol

In comment 13087076 DanMetroMan said:

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had one of my two drafts last night (this team I share with my brother) Luck Lacy/Langford Cooks/Decker Gronk Flex- Jeremy Hill D- Texans K Vinatieri Bench Bortles T Coleman D. Parker Matthews T. Austin D. Henry Gore

I like it, Jordan Matthews?

but not bad otherwise.

In comment 13087100 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13087093 DanMetroMan said: Quote: took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26. I'm firmly on the Lacy train this year. I think he's going to have his best season.

I mean he got fat, not ideal but I see some people acting like he randomly slowed down.

In comment 13087102 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13087076 DanMetroMan said: Quote: had one of my two drafts last night (this team I share with my brother) Luck Lacy/Langford Cooks/Decker Gronk Flex- Jeremy Hill D- Texans K Vinatieri Bench Bortles T Coleman D. Parker Matthews T. Austin D. Henry Gore I like it, Jordan Matthews?

Yeah Jordan Matthews. I don't recall exactly who was there at WR at that point but it was mostly 3rd WR/really old guys so we rolled the dice. I'm not one of those guys who won't have an Eagle or cowboy on my team. If they play the Giants I cheer for the Giants, if the Giants are up or down big and my guy does something that doesn't impact W/L for the Giants, I cheer for that too.. sue me lol

In comment 13087105 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13087100 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13087093 DanMetroMan said: Quote: took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26. I'm firmly on the Lacy train this year. I think he's going to have his best season. I mean he got fat, not ideal but I see some people acting like he randomly slowed down.

He trimmed down a bit and looks like he's in better shape this year. He still has a little bit of a gut but last year he was huge. He still has a lot of good ball ahead of him.

more carries than last year?

In comment 13087108 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13087102 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13087076 DanMetroMan said: Quote: had one of my two drafts last night (this team I share with my brother) Luck Lacy/Langford Cooks/Decker Gronk Flex- Jeremy Hill D- Texans K Vinatieri Bench Bortles T Coleman D. Parker Matthews T. Austin D. Henry Gore I like it, Jordan Matthews? Yeah Jordan Matthews. I don't recall exactly who was there at WR at that point but it was mostly 3rd WR/really old guys so we rolled the dice. I'm not one of those guys who won't have an Eagle or cowboy on my team. If they play the Giants I cheer for the Giants, if the Giants are up or down big and my guy does something that doesn't impact W/L for the Giants, I cheer for that too.. sue me lol

I have Dez Bryant, Tony Romo on my teams this year and had Matthews last year.

I was just curious if it was Ryan or Jordan. And then I saw Ryan is spelled with one T, so the question was irrelevant.

In comment 13087121 Mr. Bungle said:

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more carries than last year?

Yeah, I like Murray but you can't trust coach speak. I remember Miami talking about getting Miller more carries.

I think Murray had like the 2nd most carries in the league last year anyway and didn't set the world on fire. I just don't love the player. I think DeMarco will be the better Murray this year if he can stay healthy.

and he has a great oline.

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In comment 13087055 Keith said: Quote: I've said this to you before and I'll say it again, you don't need to panic. I fully expect Watkins to be a great WR this year with Taylor taking the next step in his progression. There is a lot of risk with Hyde. 1. Never had success(in his first 2 years, he hasn't run for over 500 yards yet). 2. Real bad passing game, with a bad offense. 3. Has the injury prone label. If it's me, I wait a few weeks to make a move out of desperation. Fair points. Only I don't view this as desperation. I'm actually interested in seeing Hyde in Chip Kelly's offense, I had him last year too, I should have traded him after week 1 (160 yards and 2 TD's or something like that).

You don't have to trade for him to see him in that offense. I think it's a bad move for you and even though you are saying it's not, it's desperation. You don't need to trade for a RB right now just because you have desirable WR's. I expect Watkins(3rd year WR) to make another step towards his ceiling. He's an ascending WR playing with an ascending QB. I would not even consider taking this chance for the hope that Hyde steps up his game, which there has been no indication will happen.

I'm considering taking Green or Hopkins over Elliott in my 12 team standard league at pick 8 then grabbing Lacy in round 2. I just think that will give me a stronger combo to start with

I have him in my legacy league. One concern I have is that he will be on the bench next to Romo is he keeps running with that same mentality. I get it. It was his first NFL game. He is trying to make a statement. But, he got through the first level of the defense numerous times and what did he do when he got through? He looked to truck someone on about every carry. Almost all, if not all, times he did that it it ended in a stalemate. That means he is taking a minimum of one shot on every run and that is not talking about the likelihood of him being extremely vulnerable to take more punishing hits. I am sure the coaching staff will address that. But if he continues to run with that mentality he will increase the amount of hits he takes and decrease the amount of longer runs he could have by making guys miss in the open field.

From what I saw last night I'm more comfortable drafting him in the mid-first, but I'm more hopeful someone will take him earlier to push a safer option to me

good qb
horrible defense
some other options.

Cooks had a big time 2nd half of the year last year, and is Brees favorite target by far. I got a feeling he goes for 1,200 plus and close to 12 TDs.

In comment 13087099 leatherneck570 said:

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In comment 13087092 Metnut said: Quote: draft on Sunday and we're allowed to bring in paper but all phones/computers need to be kept outside the draft room. Does anyone have a recommendation as to what might be good to print out to give me some baseline player rankings to work from? Here - ( New Window )

Thank you!

In comment 13087193 dep026 said:

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good qb horrible defense some other options. Cooks had a big time 2nd half of the year last year, and is Brees favorite target by far. I got a feeling he goes for 1,200 plus and close to 12 TDs.

Cooks has all the makings of a perennial 100+ catch a season type player. He's like Edelman but got his chance much earlier.




And yeah, I just compared a black athlete to a white athlete. That just happened.

In comment 13087234 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13087193 dep026 said: Quote: good qb horrible defense some other options. Cooks had a big time 2nd half of the year last year, and is Brees favorite target by far. I got a feeling he goes for 1,200 plus and close to 12 TDs. Cooks has all the makings of a perennial 100+ catch a season type player. He's like Edelman but got his chance much earlier. And yeah, I just compared a black athlete to a white athlete. That just happened.

Cooks had 1138 yards and 9 Td's last year, so I don't think that incremental improvement is out of line at all. It might even be a disappointment if he doesn't hit those projections.

Very sharp league, so it's tough to get a truly stacked team. Thoughts?

Starters:
QB- Brees
RB- Peterson
RB- Gore
WR- Evans
WR- Hilton
WR- M. Jones
TE- Walker
K- Gano
DST- Seahawks

Bench:
QB- Fitzpatrick
RB- C. Michael
RB- McKinnon
RB- S. Ware
WR- S. Smith
WR- T. Austin

In comment 13087326 Dmc1188 said:

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Very sharp league, so it's tough to get a truly stacked team. Thoughts? Starters: QB- Brees RB- Peterson RB- Gore WR- Evans WR- Hilton WR- M. Jones TE- Walker K- Gano DST- Seahawks Bench: QB- Fitzpatrick RB- C. Michael RB- McKinnon RB- S. Ware WR- S. Smith WR- T. Austin

Like your WR's a lot.. not a fan of the RB situation, though. Peterson is a horse but don't really like Gore as a RB2. Bench is weak as well.. Michael won't be much of a factor as long as Rawls is healthy and McKinnon and Ware probably only are startable if Peterson/Charles are injured.

rankings and projections ratings for my draft. Just out of curiosity, do you take more into account the projections or ratings? Does it really make a difference.

In comment 13087424 mitch300 said:

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rankings and projections ratings for my draft. Just out of curiosity, do you take more into account the projections or ratings? Does it really make a difference.

Shouldn't they be the same?

I mean if they project a player to get more fantasy football points wouldn't they be rated higher than a guy with less points projected?

what I thought. But, there not the same. We are only talking a few spots up or down.

In comment 13087416 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13087326 Dmc1188 said: Quote: Very sharp league, so it's tough to get a truly stacked team. Thoughts? Starters: QB- Brees RB- Peterson RB- Gore WR- Evans WR- Hilton WR- M. Jones TE- Walker K- Gano DST- Seahawks Bench: QB- Fitzpatrick RB- C. Michael RB- McKinnon RB- S. Ware WR- S. Smith WR- T. Austin Like your WR's a lot.. not a fan of the RB situation, though. Peterson is a horse but don't really like Gore as a RB2. Bench is weak as well.. Michael won't be much of a factor as long as Rawls is healthy and McKinnon and Ware probably only are startable if Peterson/Charles are injured.

Why don't you like gore? Just because of age? I think he's being severely undervalued. I was planning on nabbing him with my 7th round pick as I don't have a 6th rounder but he's seen a bit of a bump recently. I'd honestly feel tons more comfortable of taking gore in round 6 than Anderson/Hyde in rounds 3-4. He was a much more reliable fantasy player last season (and his whole career) than those two.

I guess if you think this is the year gore falls completely off a map. But as of now, a lot more is expected to go right for Hyde and CJ from last season and a lot is expected to go wrong for gore to make up the difference in ADP. It just seems like too much of projecting in opposite directions for those players.

It's actually not that I don't like Gore and wouldn't draft him I'd just like to have another reliable RB between my RB1 and him. I know Luck is back the line should be a little better and he's supposed to get the lions share of the touches but I don't know if that's going to last all year and I'm not sure if the production is really going to be there.

I wouldn't feel comfortable with him as my RB2 and little to no other depth behind him.

of Gore.

I'll let him prove me wrong on someone else's roster.

I don't base my opinions on what these guys did last year, it's what I think they'll do this year and at 33 years old and top 15 (or close to it) in NFL history all time carries I don't want to be left holding the bag when father time comes calling.

Other options I'd rather roll with than Gore.

are people surprised Golden Tate isn't getting that much love?

Tate was a beast. That being said, they didn't have the other weapons that they have now. He's def a guy I'm targeting as my WR3.

too much of a stretch to think he can be a WR2 if you want to focus on RB's early

In comment 13087857 JayBinQueens said:

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are people surprised Golden Tate isn't getting that much love?

I'd rather draft Marvin Jones where he is going than Tate at his ADP.

was switched to live last minute instead of offline. I swung for the fences with my bench, and am a bit worried at TE to start the season, but not bad otherwise, really lucked out with Gurley somehow dropping to me at 11th:

QB - Wilson
RB - Gurley
RB - L. Miller
WR - K. Benjamin
WR - Fitzgerald
WR - T. Benjamin
TE - Eifert
Flex - Forte
DEF - Giants
K - Boswell

BE - J. Gordon
BE - Brady
BE - D. Henry
BE - R. Matthews
BE - C. Michael
BE - C. Brate

In comment 13088282 jgambrosio said:

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was switched to live last minute instead of offline. I swung for the fences with my bench, and am a bit worried at TE to start the season, but not bad otherwise, really lucked out with Gurley somehow dropping to me at 11th: QB - Wilson RB - Gurley RB - L. Miller WR - K. Benjamin WR - Fitzgerald WR - T. Benjamin TE - Eifert Flex - Forte DEF - Giants K - Boswell BE - J. Gordon BE - Brady BE - D. Henry BE - R. Matthews BE - C. Michael BE - C. Brate

hope it's not a money league

Gurley fall to 11?

I got Gurley at 11 and Lamar Miller at 14 who I think is going to have a big year. I really like my RBs as I think Michael will get the main carries in Seattle and Henry will get enough carries to be a bye week filler as the season goes on and others get hurt. Regardless, Gurley, Miller and Forte all have different byes if I need to rely on them.

Fitzgerald is always solid and I think Kelvin Benjamin will have a big year if he can stay healthy. Travis Benjamin put up points in Cleveland and Rivers will go deep to him, with Morgan coming back in week 5. Rishard Matthws had a very good year in Miami last year, and Mariota doesn’t have many other options.

I am a bit worried about Wilson starting slow, but I got him in the 6th round, with Brady coming back in week 5 if he falters.

Hopefully Eifert only misses a couple weeks but I think he will be fine once thet happens but I may need to play the waiver wire until then, although supposedly Winston likes Brate so he may be ok until that point.

In comment 13088330 JayBinQueens said:

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Gurley fall to 11?

for some reason 8 WRs taken and another guy loved Elliot behind that line. The other guy took Gronk, he was preaching about the difference between Gronk and the 12th best TE compared to other positions

but your WRs are terrible for a PPR and with Eifert likely missing 4-6 weeks, so is your TE.

Both Benjamin's are highly TD dependent and are likely to be very inconsistent scorers this year, with low floors when they don't score TDs. Fitzgerald had a great first half last year, but much of that time was when Floyd was fighting back from his hand injury. Fitz had 1 TD and 1 100 yard game in the 2nd half.

Your RBs will keep you competitive, but unless the Benjamins suddenly become 80+ catch guys you will struggle to beat the teams that loaded up on high volume WRs early.

that there are bonuses at 150/200/250 yards in a game. Hopefully big plays make up for that.

is aiming to return week 4, most reports I read said week 6 is realistic.

in Seattle unless Rawls gets hurt?

Michael got cut by the same Seahawks team last year with worse other RB options than they have now, was picked up by Dallas who had major injury issues at the position and still couldn't crack the field.

Rawls is the man there unless he's injured.

I saw 4-6 weeks but thought it was from now, not regular season games. I may pick up Vance McDonald and pray he continues what he did at the end of last season. ASJ played well last night and may hold off Brate after all.

Reports on Michael are that he’s having a fantastic preseason so far and they really like him. 24 carries for 157 yards. Depends if Rawls can stay healthy as well, he hasn’t played yet this preseason.

And he is supposed to be ready Week 1. Maybe Michael gets a handful of work until Rawls is 100% but I wouldn't count on him really being the lead back at any point unless Rawls gets hurt again.

He was my 14th round pick and 5th RB, so nothing to lose really looking at the guys available and drafted after him. I considered Dixon or Karlos Williams, but without a team he probably would have been a wasted pick. We’ll see what happens.

In comment 13088462 jgambrosio said:

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He was my 14th round pick and 5th RB, so nothing to lose really looking at the guys available and drafted after him. I considered Dixon or Karlos Williams, but without a team he probably would have been a wasted pick. We’ll see what happens.

I get it and have no problem with you picking Michael, only saying "Michael will get the main carries" is just deluding yourself IMO unless Rawls is injured.