NFT: Fantasy Football Discussion 8/26

Both are risky players but that would give you a helluva one two punch with your RBs if Hyde can rack up the yards which I think he can.

Yes yes yes yes yes.

You also need to upgrade at qb maybe trade for someone like Dalton or Carr if Romo Goes down.

QB and I think I'm going to roll with it.

I read the Raiders are going to have DeAndre Washington play with the 1's next pre-season game.

I wouldn't be shocked if he surpasses Murray.

Murray's owner is trying hard to get him from me but keeps proposing nobodys

Yeah, I'd make the trade pj.. you have enough WR depth to part with one of them and I think Hyde makes your team much more balanced.

Still don't love the QB's but it's not the end of the world.

Also I've been saying this about Latavius Murray for a while now.. there's just something about him that I can't embrace. I'm not drafting him unless he really drops.

In comment 13087042 arcarsenal said:

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Yeah, I'd make the trade pj.. you have enough WR depth to part with one of them and I think Hyde makes your team much more balanced. Still don't love the QB's but it's not the end of the world. Also I've been saying this about Latavius Murray for a while now.. there's just something about him that I can't embrace. I'm not drafting him unless he really drops.

i had murray last year and he would have 2 great gsmes then 2 bad games, never consistent...

i think this year more than ever you wait on rbs unless you can get gurley or johnson, this year it is more about wr, in my opinion

I've said this to you before and I'll say it again, you don't need to panic. I fully expect Watkins to be a great WR this year with Taylor taking the next step in his progression. There is a lot of risk with Hyde.

1. Never had success(in his first 2 years, he hasn't run for over 500 yards yet).
2. Real bad passing game, with a bad offense.
3. Has the injury prone label.


If it's me, I wait a few weeks to make a move out of desperation.

In comment 13087055 Keith said:

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I've said this to you before and I'll say it again, you don't need to panic. I fully expect Watkins to be a great WR this year with Taylor taking the next step in his progression. There is a lot of risk with Hyde. 1. Never had success(in his first 2 years, he hasn't run for over 500 yards yet). 2. Real bad passing game, with a bad offense. 3. Has the injury prone label. If it's me, I wait a few weeks to make a move out of desperation.

Fair points. Only I don't view this as desperation. I'm actually interested in seeing Hyde in Chip Kelly's offense, I had him last year too, I should have traded him after week 1 (160 yards and 2 TD's or something like that).

had one of my two drafts last night (this team I share with my brother)

Luck
Lacy/Langford
Cooks/Decker
Gronk
Flex- Jeremy Hill
D- Texans
K Vinatieri

Bench
Bortles
T Coleman
D. Parker
Matthews
T. Austin
D. Henry
Gore

Or should I roll with Brees instead?

I like Brees over Luck this year. They're close though.

But I see what you did here. How many teams? What slot? PPR?

In comment 13087081 superspynyg said:

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But I see what you did here. How many teams? What slot? PPR?

It's 10 teams, PPR, we picked 8th so we didn't have a shot at the true "elite" WR's

Good team, Dan. Well balanced. I like it.

In comment 13087084 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13087081 superspynyg said: Quote: But I see what you did here. How many teams? What slot? PPR? It's 10 teams, PPR, we picked 8th so we didn't have a shot at the true "elite" WR's

Who did you grab at 8? Gronk?

picking from the 12th spot I had. 12 teams total.

Eli

Bell
Foster
Jennings
Riddick

Green
Evans
Landry
Gordon
Coleman
Sharpe

Ertz

Gano

Pats

draft on Sunday and we're allowed to bring in paper but all phones/computers need to be kept outside the draft room. Does anyone have a recommendation as to what might be good to print out to give me some baseline player rankings to work from?

took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26.

In comment 13087093 DanMetroMan said:

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took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26.

Lacy looks good.

In comment 13087092 Metnut said:

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draft on Sunday and we're allowed to bring in paper but all phones/computers need to be kept outside the draft room. Does anyone have a recommendation as to what might be good to print out to give me some baseline player rankings to work from?

Here - ( New Window )

In comment 13087093 DanMetroMan said:

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took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26.

I'm firmly on the Lacy train this year. I think he's going to have his best season.

much luck involved in head to head fantasy football over a full season and yet I still love it lol

In comment 13087076 DanMetroMan said:

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had one of my two drafts last night (this team I share with my brother) Luck Lacy/Langford Cooks/Decker Gronk Flex- Jeremy Hill D- Texans K Vinatieri Bench Bortles T Coleman D. Parker Matthews T. Austin D. Henry Gore

I like it, Jordan Matthews?

but not bad otherwise.

In comment 13087100 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13087093 DanMetroMan said: Quote: took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26. I'm firmly on the Lacy train this year. I think he's going to have his best season.

I mean he got fat, not ideal but I see some people acting like he randomly slowed down.

In comment 13087102 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13087076 DanMetroMan said: Quote: had one of my two drafts last night (this team I share with my brother) Luck Lacy/Langford Cooks/Decker Gronk Flex- Jeremy Hill D- Texans K Vinatieri Bench Bortles T Coleman D. Parker Matthews T. Austin D. Henry Gore I like it, Jordan Matthews?

Yeah Jordan Matthews. I don't recall exactly who was there at WR at that point but it was mostly 3rd WR/really old guys so we rolled the dice. I'm not one of those guys who won't have an Eagle or cowboy on my team. If they play the Giants I cheer for the Giants, if the Giants are up or down big and my guy does something that doesn't impact W/L for the Giants, I cheer for that too.. sue me lol

In comment 13087105 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13087100 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13087093 DanMetroMan said: Quote: took Lacy and then Gronk, Cooks for some reason fell. I'm still scared of scouring the waiver wire for RB's so we probably took Lacy too high but he's looking good in preseason and still only 26. I'm firmly on the Lacy train this year. I think he's going to have his best season. I mean he got fat, not ideal but I see some people acting like he randomly slowed down.

He trimmed down a bit and looks like he's in better shape this year. He still has a little bit of a gut but last year he was huge. He still has a lot of good ball ahead of him.

more carries than last year?

In comment 13087108 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13087102 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13087076 DanMetroMan said: Quote: had one of my two drafts last night (this team I share with my brother) Luck Lacy/Langford Cooks/Decker Gronk Flex- Jeremy Hill D- Texans K Vinatieri Bench Bortles T Coleman D. Parker Matthews T. Austin D. Henry Gore I like it, Jordan Matthews? Yeah Jordan Matthews. I don't recall exactly who was there at WR at that point but it was mostly 3rd WR/really old guys so we rolled the dice. I'm not one of those guys who won't have an Eagle or cowboy on my team. If they play the Giants I cheer for the Giants, if the Giants are up or down big and my guy does something that doesn't impact W/L for the Giants, I cheer for that too.. sue me lol

I have Dez Bryant, Tony Romo on my teams this year and had Matthews last year.

I was just curious if it was Ryan or Jordan. And then I saw Ryan is spelled with one T, so the question was irrelevant.

In comment 13087121 Mr. Bungle said:

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more carries than last year?

Yeah, I like Murray but you can't trust coach speak. I remember Miami talking about getting Miller more carries.

I think Murray had like the 2nd most carries in the league last year anyway and didn't set the world on fire. I just don't love the player. I think DeMarco will be the better Murray this year if he can stay healthy.

and he has a great oline.

In comment 13087070 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13087055 Keith said: Quote: I've said this to you before and I'll say it again, you don't need to panic. I fully expect Watkins to be a great WR this year with Taylor taking the next step in his progression. There is a lot of risk with Hyde. 1. Never had success(in his first 2 years, he hasn't run for over 500 yards yet). 2. Real bad passing game, with a bad offense. 3. Has the injury prone label. If it's me, I wait a few weeks to make a move out of desperation. Fair points. Only I don't view this as desperation. I'm actually interested in seeing Hyde in Chip Kelly's offense, I had him last year too, I should have traded him after week 1 (160 yards and 2 TD's or something like that).

You don't have to trade for him to see him in that offense. I think it's a bad move for you and even though you are saying it's not, it's desperation. You don't need to trade for a RB right now just because you have desirable WR's. I expect Watkins(3rd year WR) to make another step towards his ceiling. He's an ascending WR playing with an ascending QB. I would not even consider taking this chance for the hope that Hyde steps up his game, which there has been no indication will happen.

I'm considering taking Green or Hopkins over Elliott in my 12 team standard league at pick 8 then grabbing Lacy in round 2. I just think that will give me a stronger combo to start with

I have him in my legacy league. One concern I have is that he will be on the bench next to Romo is he keeps running with that same mentality. I get it. It was his first NFL game. He is trying to make a statement. But, he got through the first level of the defense numerous times and what did he do when he got through? He looked to truck someone on about every carry. Almost all, if not all, times he did that it it ended in a stalemate. That means he is taking a minimum of one shot on every run and that is not talking about the likelihood of him being extremely vulnerable to take more punishing hits. I am sure the coaching staff will address that. But if he continues to run with that mentality he will increase the amount of hits he takes and decrease the amount of longer runs he could have by making guys miss in the open field.

From what I saw last night I'm more comfortable drafting him in the mid-first, but I'm more hopeful someone will take him earlier to push a safer option to me

good qb
horrible defense
some other options.

Cooks had a big time 2nd half of the year last year, and is Brees favorite target by far. I got a feeling he goes for 1,200 plus and close to 12 TDs.

In comment 13087099 leatherneck570 said:

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In comment 13087092 Metnut said: Quote: draft on Sunday and we're allowed to bring in paper but all phones/computers need to be kept outside the draft room. Does anyone have a recommendation as to what might be good to print out to give me some baseline player rankings to work from? Here - ( New Window )

Thank you!

In comment 13087193 dep026 said:

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good qb horrible defense some other options. Cooks had a big time 2nd half of the year last year, and is Brees favorite target by far. I got a feeling he goes for 1,200 plus and close to 12 TDs.

Cooks has all the makings of a perennial 100+ catch a season type player. He's like Edelman but got his chance much earlier.




And yeah, I just compared a black athlete to a white athlete. That just happened.

In comment 13087234 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13087193 dep026 said: Quote: good qb horrible defense some other options. Cooks had a big time 2nd half of the year last year, and is Brees favorite target by far. I got a feeling he goes for 1,200 plus and close to 12 TDs. Cooks has all the makings of a perennial 100+ catch a season type player. He's like Edelman but got his chance much earlier. And yeah, I just compared a black athlete to a white athlete. That just happened.

Cooks had 1138 yards and 9 Td's last year, so I don't think that incremental improvement is out of line at all. It might even be a disappointment if he doesn't hit those projections.

Very sharp league, so it's tough to get a truly stacked team. Thoughts?

Starters:
QB- Brees
RB- Peterson
RB- Gore
WR- Evans
WR- Hilton
WR- M. Jones
TE- Walker
K- Gano
DST- Seahawks

Bench:
QB- Fitzpatrick
RB- C. Michael
RB- McKinnon
RB- S. Ware
WR- S. Smith
WR- T. Austin

In comment 13087326 Dmc1188 said:

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Very sharp league, so it's tough to get a truly stacked team. Thoughts? Starters: QB- Brees RB- Peterson RB- Gore WR- Evans WR- Hilton WR- M. Jones TE- Walker K- Gano DST- Seahawks Bench: QB- Fitzpatrick RB- C. Michael RB- McKinnon RB- S. Ware WR- S. Smith WR- T. Austin

Like your WR's a lot.. not a fan of the RB situation, though. Peterson is a horse but don't really like Gore as a RB2. Bench is weak as well.. Michael won't be much of a factor as long as Rawls is healthy and McKinnon and Ware probably only are startable if Peterson/Charles are injured.

rankings and projections ratings for my draft. Just out of curiosity, do you take more into account the projections or ratings? Does it really make a difference.

In comment 13087424 mitch300 said:

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rankings and projections ratings for my draft. Just out of curiosity, do you take more into account the projections or ratings? Does it really make a difference.

Shouldn't they be the same?

I mean if they project a player to get more fantasy football points wouldn't they be rated higher than a guy with less points projected?

what I thought. But, there not the same. We are only talking a few spots up or down.

In comment 13087416 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13087326 Dmc1188 said: Quote: Very sharp league, so it's tough to get a truly stacked team. Thoughts? Starters: QB- Brees RB- Peterson RB- Gore WR- Evans WR- Hilton WR- M. Jones TE- Walker K- Gano DST- Seahawks Bench: QB- Fitzpatrick RB- C. Michael RB- McKinnon RB- S. Ware WR- S. Smith WR- T. Austin Like your WR's a lot.. not a fan of the RB situation, though. Peterson is a horse but don't really like Gore as a RB2. Bench is weak as well.. Michael won't be much of a factor as long as Rawls is healthy and McKinnon and Ware probably only are startable if Peterson/Charles are injured.

Why don't you like gore? Just because of age? I think he's being severely undervalued. I was planning on nabbing him with my 7th round pick as I don't have a 6th rounder but he's seen a bit of a bump recently. I'd honestly feel tons more comfortable of taking gore in round 6 than Anderson/Hyde in rounds 3-4. He was a much more reliable fantasy player last season (and his whole career) than those two.

I guess if you think this is the year gore falls completely off a map. But as of now, a lot more is expected to go right for Hyde and CJ from last season and a lot is expected to go wrong for gore to make up the difference in ADP. It just seems like too much of projecting in opposite directions for those players.

It's actually not that I don't like Gore and wouldn't draft him I'd just like to have another reliable RB between my RB1 and him. I know Luck is back the line should be a little better and he's supposed to get the lions share of the touches but I don't know if that's going to last all year and I'm not sure if the production is really going to be there.

I wouldn't feel comfortable with him as my RB2 and little to no other depth behind him.

of Gore.

I'll let him prove me wrong on someone else's roster.

I don't base my opinions on what these guys did last year, it's what I think they'll do this year and at 33 years old and top 15 (or close to it) in NFL history all time carries I don't want to be left holding the bag when father time comes calling.

Other options I'd rather roll with than Gore.

are people surprised Golden Tate isn't getting that much love?

Tate was a beast. That being said, they didn't have the other weapons that they have now. He's def a guy I'm targeting as my WR3.

too much of a stretch to think he can be a WR2 if you want to focus on RB's early