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| New York Giants kicker Josh Brown was reportedly cited for violating a restraining order two months after the initial arrest that led to his one-game suspension. The information was released by the Kings County (N.Y) prosecutor's office on Friday, according to SNY. Brown was originally arrested for a domestic violence incident in May 2015. The New York Daily News reports that a protective order was placed five days later preventing Brown from coming within 500 feet of his then-wife's residence but that he violated that in July by driving by the house. "I think he's been driving by, seeing like who's car is in the driveway, what I'm doing, if the babysitter's here or not," his then-wife told deputies at the time, according to the incident report. "He's not supposed to be doing that." |
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The info is coming from the prosecutor. The previous info came from a police report. While it may be a failed relationship, not looking like a money grab.
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For violating a restraining order
Whatever is going to happen is going happen.
Can we get some normal press about the NY Football Giants!
I think the Giants have already moved on. If he's their best option at kicker, they'll keep him, and the media be damned. If he's not, then goodbye and good luck.
And before you say, well then don't view this one, why don't you just post on one of the existing threads if it is so important to you.
It takes a special kind of idiot to blame the "liberal media" for something like this.
wonder if the giants knew about this piece of the story and if they did whether it would have made a difference in terms of their decision on brown.
And before you say, well then don't view this one, why don't you just post on one of the existing threads if it is so important to you.
lol
You would hope so, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get caught off guard again
You are part of the problem. Do you have a hipster goatee and listen to ska brah?
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pretty sure slumlord is joking or trolling.
You are part of the problem. Do you have a hipster goatee and listen to ska brah?
Nothing wrong with hard core ska
I guess we know who this guy is voting for in the election.
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In comment 13087686 Les in TO said:
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pretty sure slumlord is joking or trolling.
You are part of the problem. Do you have a hipster goatee and listen to ska brah?
Nothing wrong with hard core ska
And no self respecting hipster would have a goatee, that is sooo middle america
I'm starting to think they have been caught off guard and didn't really do all the due diligence they made it seem like they did.
Or maybe they knew all about this and Brown convinced them that he did the drive by because he was worried about the welfare of his children (total speculation).
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keep him - dont give in to this liberal media harassment and horseshit. There is zero evidence or conviction that lead me to believe this is at worse a money grab or at best a failed relationship.
I guess we know who this guy is voting for in the election.
This same law enforcement agency didn't cooperate with the NFL, when they did their own investigation. I think that doesn't speak well of the NFL, when a sheriff's office out in the Pacific Northwest wouldn't cooperate.
It's not just the players anymore who don't trust the NFL!
I am not saying I stick up for the players all the time,
I am saying that's the perception of the actions of this
law enforcement agency. Both them and Brown's ex didn't cooperate, which led to the one game suspension.
Go look at their statement, after they handed out their
one game suspension.
Do you wear tom coughlin khakis and listen to Kenny Chesney? :)
100% agree...almost vomited the other day when I saw Melissa Mark-Viverito chime in and demanding the Giants cut Brown...I hope Mara and the Giants don't buckle to political pressure from left wing loons like Viverito...this of course is assuming Brown has no further incidents that could potentially embarrass the Giants...
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Only thing i'll say is despite this getting released now, this happened July, 2015. Wouldn't you think the Giants would have known about this part of it prior to the extension and the NFL knew about this part prior to the suspension?
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This same law enforcement agency didn't cooperate with the NFL, when they did their own investigation. I think that doesn't speak well of the NFL, when a sheriff's office out in the Pacific Northwest wouldn't cooperate.
It's not just the players anymore who don't trust the NFL!
I am not saying I stick up for the players all the time,
I am saying that's the perception of the actions of this
law enforcement agency. Both them and Brown's ex didn't cooperate, which led to the one game suspension.
Go look at their statement, after they handed out their
one game suspension.
I highly doubt the PD was acting on any opinion of the NFL. They were probably just following policy.
The NFL has no extra rights to information over the rest of society.
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In comment 13087656 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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keep him - dont give in to this liberal media harassment and horseshit. There is zero evidence or conviction that lead me to believe this is at worse a money grab or at best a failed relationship.
I guess we know who this guy is voting for in the election.
"I'll say" - Juanita Broaddrick, Eileen Wellstone, Paula Joes, Monica, et al
So, the Donald's wife posed for many nude photos years ago,
what is your point, if you have one?
+3
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In comment 13087657 Danny Kanell said:
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Only thing i'll say is despite this getting released now, this happened July, 2015. Wouldn't you think the Giants would have known about this part of it prior to the extension and the NFL knew about this part prior to the suspension?
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This same law enforcement agency didn't cooperate with the NFL, when they did their own investigation. I think that doesn't speak well of the NFL, when a sheriff's office out in the Pacific Northwest wouldn't cooperate.
It's not just the players anymore who don't trust the NFL!
I am not saying I stick up for the players all the time,
I am saying that's the perception of the actions of this
law enforcement agency. Both them and Brown's ex didn't cooperate, which led to the one game suspension.
Go look at their statement, after they handed out their
one game suspension.
I highly doubt the PD was acting on any opinion of the NFL. They were probably just following policy.
The NFL has no extra rights to information over the rest of society.
You missed this line: I am saying that's the perception of the actions of this law enforcement agency.
It's the way it looks, not the way it is.
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In comment 13087656 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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keep him - dont give in to this liberal media harassment and horseshit. There is zero evidence or conviction that lead me to believe this is at worse a money grab or at best a failed relationship.
I guess we know who this guy is voting for in the election.
"I'll say" - Juanita Broaddrick, Eileen Wellstone, Paula Joes, Monica, et al
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So, the Donald's wife posed for many nude photos years ago,
what is your point, if you have one?
Replaceable? With who?
Make the decision based on the evidence and the investigation, whether it is a kicker or the star QB.
And a common sentiment that keeps getting brought up is that if he wasn't a Giant, we'd be calling him all sorts of names. And yet, you don't see a lot of giant fans going after Elliott, and you rarely hear about Dez Bryant assaulting his Mother. Does anyone think Ochocinco's legacy is tarnished?
About the only people BBI has gone after is Greg Hardy and Ray Rice.
It is a pretty weak strawman argument.
The only thing I'm confident of is that whatever decision is made on Brown, it will come down to the facts and the investigation.
I disagree - fair or not, players pay close attention to punishments/violations of fellow players...and SOME also view these punishments through a race lens. when brady had his deflategate suspension reversed, there were a lot of players who felt this was white privilege in action. some giants players may see that brown keeping his job in light of all these incidents is also another example of white privilege. and though i don't necessarily agree with that view, it could be the perception.
I'm not defending JB nor am I bending over backwards. I will just say this one more time. We do not know the full story. We have one confirmed incident that resulted in a one game suspension and a lot of accusations by the ex-wife that, as far as I know, have not been corroborated by any other evidence.
I'm not saying he is innocent but put down the torches and pitchforks until the full story is known.
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For those who think this is a distraction, poll the players and you'll see they couldn't care less
I disagree - fair or not, players pay close attention to punishments/violations of fellow players...and SOME also view these punishments through a race lens. when brady had his deflategate suspension reversed, there were a lot of players who felt this was white privilege in action. some giants players may see that brown keeping his job in light of all these incidents is also another example of white privilege. and though i don't necessarily agree with that view, it could be the perception.
So he should be cut for race relations?
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I'm tired of him on my team. I'm tired of fans bending over backwards to defend this guy.
I'm not defending JB nor am I bending over backwards. I will just say this one more time. We do not know the full story. We have one confirmed incident that resulted in a one game suspension and a lot of accusations by the ex-wife that, as far as I know, have not been corroborated by any other evidence.
I'm not saying he is innocent but put down the torches and pitchforks until the full story is known.
Whether he is guilty or not, kickers are very replaceable. Why carry him on the roster when we're going to be continually inundated with questions about him? It's an unnecessary distraction that we should have moved on from.
Make the decision based on the evidence and the investigation, whether it is a kicker or the star QB.
And a common sentiment that keeps getting brought up is that if he wasn't a Giant, we'd be calling him all sorts of names. And yet, you don't see a lot of giant fans going after Elliott, and you rarely hear about Dez Bryant assaulting his Mother. Does anyone think Ochocinco's legacy is tarnished?
About the only people BBI has gone after is Greg Hardy and Ray Rice.
It is a pretty weak strawman argument.
The only thing I'm confident of is that whatever decision is made on Brown, it will come down to the facts and the investigation.
I think they should cut him, because as one of the four
or five 'flagship' franchises in the NFL, it would
make a real statement to the rest of the league.
We are not going to put up with DV in this league anymore,
period! He shouldn't be cut, because he is a 'replaceable' part.
There is a certain segment on BBI, that seems to carry a
bit of a caveman mentality on here. Somebody mentioned that
last week, don't recall who, but you know what, he's right!
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In comment 13087686 Les in TO said:
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pretty sure slumlord is joking or trolling.
You are part of the problem. Do you have a hipster goatee and listen to ska brah?
Nothing wrong with hard core ska
Fighting words! If your collection has Mighty Mighty Bosstones but not The Specials, The Selecter, The Lambrettas, The English Beat, etc, then you don't like ska!
bit of a caveman mentality on here.
I don't know about a caveman mentality, but how many cases have to happen where people judge based on an article or an early news report and think they are now an expert on the subject matter?
At least cavemen are mentally challenged. People who think they are being reasonable but don't even know the situation worry me more.
Regardless, his actions don't warrant being cut.
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In comment 13087686 Les in TO said:
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pretty sure slumlord is joking or trolling.
You are part of the problem. Do you have a hipster goatee and listen to ska brah?
Nothing wrong with hard core ska
Fighting words! If your collection has Mighty Mighty Bosstones but not The Specials, The Selecter, The Lambrettas, The English Beat, etc, then you don't like ska!
I have hard core like the Bosstones, Rancid, pietasters, etc. and traditional ska like the specials, English Beat, etc. I have it all.
only hipsters aren't associated with hard core ska, that's more of a punk thing.
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I'm tired of him on my team. I'm tired of fans bending over backwards to defend this guy.
I'm not defending JB nor am I bending over backwards. I will just say this one more time. We do not know the full story. We have one confirmed incident that resulted in a one game suspension and a lot of accusations by the ex-wife that, as far as I know, have not been corroborated by any other evidence.
I'm not saying he is innocent but put down the torches and pitchforks until the full story is known.
Whether he is guilty or not, kickers are very replaceable. Why carry him on the roster when we're going to be continually inundated with questions about him? It's an unnecessary distraction that we should have moved on from.
It's a distraction in the eyes of BBI.
Plus I think the team would support the front office in it's defense of a team mate. In fact they may not appreciate a player getting cut because BBI thinks he is a distraction. I give the Mara credit for that.
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There is a certain segment on BBI, that seems to carry a
bit of a caveman mentality on here.
I haven't seen anybody on here say they are an expert,
have you? I have seen a lot of the comments on these threads
about Brown though, does make me SMH.
By the way, for those saying it's only been one incident,
then why did Mara say the other day that Brown has been getting counseling for the last two years?
I don't know about a caveman mentality, but how many cases have to happen where people judge based on an article or an early news report and think they are now an expert on the subject matter?
At least cavemen are mentally challenged. People who think they are being reasonable but don't even know the situation worry me more.
The team's position shouldn't depend upon how valuable he is. Moral relativism is for unprincipled schmucks.
"Hey Goggle. My wife put a restraining order on me. So how can I go to my appointment on the next two blocks without violating my restraining order?"
"Your destination is up ahead. I don't know!"
"Hey Goggle. My wife put a restraining order on me. So how can I go to my appointment on the next two blocks without violating my restraining order?"
"Your destination is up ahead. I don't know!"
Yes, if you have a restraining order you can not drive by the house.
Why is that hard to understand?
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Wait so he lived in a house for some time but since he got a restraining order he is not allow to operate a motor vehicle on the same block? What if he had a destination on the next block? Doctor appointment? Is that something Goggle Maps can do for you?
"Hey Goggle. My wife put a restraining order on me. So how can I go to my appointment on the next two blocks without violating my restraining order?"
"Your destination is up ahead. I don't know!"
Yes, if you have a restraining order you can not drive by the house.
Why is that hard to understand?
Its the whole point of the restraining order
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In comment 13087652 chris r said:
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I'm tired of him on my team. I'm tired of fans bending over backwards to defend this guy.
I'm not defending JB nor am I bending over backwards. I will just say this one more time. We do not know the full story. We have one confirmed incident that resulted in a one game suspension and a lot of accusations by the ex-wife that, as far as I know, have not been corroborated by any other evidence.
I'm not saying he is innocent but put down the torches and pitchforks until the full story is known.
Whether he is guilty or not, kickers are very replaceable. Why carry him on the roster when we're going to be continually inundated with questions about him? It's an unnecessary distraction that we should have moved on from.
It's a distraction in the eyes of BBI.
Plus I think the team would support the front office in it's defense of a team mate. In fact they may not appreciate a player getting cut because BBI thinks he is a distraction. I give the Mara credit for that.
It's a distraction, because the team gets asked about it every day. McAdoo clearly says he is not further discussing the matter, and he gets asked 8 different ways about the guy. What's hilarious is that resident geniuses here thought Eli Apple's mom would be a bigger distraction. approaching Miko Grimes levels.
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at the slant that the Giants should cut him because he's "just a kicker" and replaceable.
Make the decision based on the evidence and the investigation, whether it is a kicker or the star QB.
And a common sentiment that keeps getting brought up is that if he wasn't a Giant, we'd be calling him all sorts of names. And yet, you don't see a lot of giant fans going after Elliott, and you rarely hear about Dez Bryant assaulting his Mother. Does anyone think Ochocinco's legacy is tarnished?
About the only people BBI has gone after is Greg Hardy and Ray Rice.
It is a pretty weak strawman argument.
The only thing I'm confident of is that whatever decision is made on Brown, it will come down to the facts and the investigation.
This is getting old not one man woman or Child knows
all the facts . I believe that the Team did the right
thing and the NFL handed down its decision .Dael With It !
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In comment 13087783 David in LA said:
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In comment 13087773 therealmf said:
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In comment 13087652 chris r said:
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I'm tired of him on my team. I'm tired of fans bending over backwards to defend this guy.
I'm not defending JB nor am I bending over backwards. I will just say this one more time. We do not know the full story. We have one confirmed incident that resulted in a one game suspension and a lot of accusations by the ex-wife that, as far as I know, have not been corroborated by any other evidence.
I'm not saying he is innocent but put down the torches and pitchforks until the full story is known.
Whether he is guilty or not, kickers are very replaceable. Why carry him on the roster when we're going to be continually inundated with questions about him? It's an unnecessary distraction that we should have moved on from.
It's a distraction in the eyes of BBI.
Plus I think the team would support the front office in it's defense of a team mate. In fact they may not appreciate a player getting cut because BBI thinks he is a distraction. I give the Mara credit for that.
It's a distraction, because the team gets asked about it every day. McAdoo clearly says he is not further discussing the matter, and he gets asked 8 different ways about the guy. What's hilarious is that resident geniuses here thought Eli Apple's mom would be a bigger distraction. approaching Miko Grimes levels.
By that logic Victor Cruz should be cut. Everyday people ask questions about him. And JPP should have been told to bugger off in September last year.
Questions are part of McAdoo's and the players jobs. The only distractions that hurt a team are those that affect the locker room. And I don't see that in this case.
True. But I tend to respect an organization that tries to treats players the same regardless of expediency. I believe it is called integrity.
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In comment 13087854 Mason said:
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Wait so he lived in a house for some time but since he got a restraining order he is not allow to operate a motor vehicle on the same block? What if he had a destination on the next block? Doctor appointment? Is that something Goggle Maps can do for you?
"Hey Goggle. My wife put a restraining order on me. So how can I go to my appointment on the next two blocks without violating my restraining order?"
"Your destination is up ahead. I don't know!"
Yes, if you have a restraining order you can not drive by the house.
Why is that hard to understand?
Its the whole point of the restraining order
This is why I have had to SMH a LOT in the last week or so!
I rest my case folks, LOL.
One more thing for FatMan: What are you implying with this comment...'People who think they are being reasonable but don't even know the situation worry me more.'
I think they should cut him, because as one of the four
or five 'flagship' franchises in the NFL, it would
make a real statement to the rest of the league.
We are not going to put up with DV in this league anymore,
period! He shouldn't be cut, because he is a 'replaceable' part....That is what I also said above, don't cherry pick,
when replying, to suit your narrative, bad look my friend.
Did you miss this reasonable explanation?
BTW, an organization doesn't send someone for counseling
for the last two years, based 'on a moment'. In the world
I live in, it's typically called common sense!
or five 'flagship' franchises in the NFL, it would
make a real statement to the rest of the league.
By that rationale, the Steelers should have cut Ben.
It is the second or third time you've posted the same thing. I hate to break it to you, but it isn't nearly as profound as you think.
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I think they should cut him, because as one of the four
or five 'flagship' franchises in the NFL, it would
make a real statement to the rest of the league.
By that rationale, the Steelers should have cut Ben.
It is the second or third time you've posted the same thing. I hate to break it to you, but it isn't nearly as profound as you think.
It's called an opinion, ever heard of those?
Nara has done it twice now, 2nd time I have mentioned too.
The next time YOU say something profound, would be the first time. It's the second time I have stated that,
both on this thread.
Try a reading comprehension course, I am sure there is one near you. Great analogy there, LOL.
Too bad the young ladies in Georgia were too inebriated
to be what is called credible witnesses. Ever hear of that?
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In comment 13087854 Mason said:
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Wait so he lived in a house for some time but since he got a restraining order he is not allow to operate a motor vehicle on the same block? What if he had a destination on the next block? Doctor appointment? Is that something Goggle Maps can do for you?
"Hey Goggle. My wife put a restraining order on me. So how can I go to my appointment on the next two blocks without violating my restraining order?"
"Your destination is up ahead. I don't know!"
Yes, if you have a restraining order you can not drive by the house.
Why is that hard to understand?
Its the whole point of the restraining order
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This is why I have had to SMH a LOT in the last week or so!
I rest my case folks, LOL.
One more thing for FatMan: What are you implying with this comment...'People who think they are being reasonable but don't even know the situation worry me more.'
I think they should cut him, because as one of the four
or five 'flagship' franchises in the NFL, it would
make a real statement to the rest of the league.
We are not going to put up with DV in this league anymore,
period! He shouldn't be cut, because he is a 'replaceable' part....That is what I also said above, don't cherry pick,
when replying, to suit your narrative, bad look my friend.
Did you miss this reasonable explanation?
BTW, an organization doesn't send someone for counseling
for the last two years, based 'on a moment'. In the world
I live in, it's typically called common sense!
I'm trying to figure out the whole Georgia connection. Was Charlotte once in Georgia? And why did you move it?
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really believe bullshit like this?
Do you know the difference between DV and supposed rape??
As I said, great analogy, wow!
Yes I believe this 'BS', based on the fact, that what has
gone down in recent years in this league, Mara could
have made a 'profound' statement. I am done with Josh Brown now!
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I think they should cut him, because as one of the four
or five 'flagship' franchises in the NFL, it would
make a real statement to the rest of the league.
By that rationale, the Steelers should have cut Ben.
It is the second or third time you've posted the same thing. I hate to break it to you, but it isn't nearly as profound as you think.
It's called an opinion, ever heard of those?
Nara has done it twice now, 2nd time I have mentioned too.
The next time YOU say something profound, would be the first time. It's the second time I have stated that,
both on this thread.
Try a reading comprehension course, I am sure there is one near you. Great analogy there, LOL.
Too bad the young ladies in Georgia were too inebriated
to be what is called credible witnesses. Ever hear of that?
You know part of getting a point across is to put it in a way people can either decipher or understand.
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fuck did you just attempt to convey?
I'm trying to figure out the whole Georgia connection. Was Charlotte once in Georgia? And why did you move it?
Ben supposedly raped a young woman in a bathroom in
the grand state of Georgia, they were too drunk
when police got their statements...that is your connection.
Charlotte is not in the equation.
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fuck did you just attempt to convey?
I'm trying to figure out the whole Georgia connection. Was Charlotte once in Georgia? And why did you move it?
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Ben supposedly raped a young woman in a bathroom in
the grand state of Georgia, they were too drunk
when police got their statements...that is your connection.
Charlotte is not in the equation.
Then you are a complete ass. And you should be ashamed.
Fuck off.
You know part of getting a point across is to put it in a way people can either decipher or understand.
As I said, take a reading comprehension course.
Carson created a new club the other day, I have one charter
member. FatMan, you are now member No. 2, in CCI.
Clueless Club Interactive, LOL.
Fighting words! If your collection has Mighty Mighty Bosstones but not The Specials, The Selecter, The Lambrettas, The English Beat, etc, then you don't like ska!
The Specials definitely. But the English Beat? Bad Manners, Madness and the Villains. I would even put Sublime on the list
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just absolutely classic.
You know part of getting a point across is to put it in a way people can either decipher or understand.
As I said, take a reading comprehension course.
Carson created a new club the other day, I have one charter
member. FatMan, you are now member No. 2, in CCI.
Clueless Club Interactive, LOL.
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Member No. 3 of CCI has made an appearance. You go internet tough 'boy'.
In comment 13087975 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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fuck did you just attempt to convey?
I'm trying to figure out the whole Georgia connection. Was Charlotte once in Georgia? And why did you move it?
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Ben supposedly raped a young woman in a bathroom in
the grand state of Georgia, they were too drunk
when police got their statements...that is your connection.
Charlotte is not in the equation.
Then you are a complete ass. And you should be ashamed.
Fuck off.
What exactly was difficult to comprehend there Johnnie?
You asked the Georgia connection, it was answered, end of story.
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just absolutely classic.
You know part of getting a point across is to put it in a way people can either decipher or understand.
As I said, take a reading comprehension course.
Carson created a new club the other day, I have one charter
member. FatMan, you are now member No. 2, in CCI.
Clueless Club Interactive, LOL.
Reading comprehension test for you.
That you would callously bring into the argument the predicament those young ladies were placed. To testify in front of the whole country. Big Ben's attorney bashing their character. Forever having their life defined by that night. And you say you are against domestic violence?
Because of this you are an ass.
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I said because they were too inebriated, police didn't find them credible enough, do you folks read well?
Apparently they were changing stories, it doesn't matter
how I feel about not So Gentle Ben. I am just dealing
with the reality of the legal system. Your damn straight
I am against DV an rape, especially in this league.
It's been going on for a long long time in the NFL.
I am well aware it is a societal issue, but it's been a big issue in this league. It started a long time ago.
I stated what the facts were
that's not being
callous, those are the facts. I din
just absolutely classic.
You know part of getting a point across is to put it in a way people can either decipher or understand.
As I said, take a reading comprehension course.
Carson created a new club the other day, I have one charter
member. FatMan, you are now member No. 2, in CCI.
Clueless Club Interactive, LOL.
Reading comprehension test for you.
That you would callously bring into the argument the predicament those young ladies were placed. To testify in front of the whole country. Big Ben's attorney bashing their character. Forever having their life defined by that night. And you say you are against domestic violence?
Because of this you are an ass.
Challenge.
There may be a couple posts talking shit about the organizations, but then the thread would devolve into a fucking tangled mess of dudes who like to excuse/perhaps partake in hitting women and other dudes who are all the way up their high horses ass.. And some memes. and shitty jokes (mostly mine). and shittier artwork (yours).
#youreshittier
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Wait so he lived in a house for some time but since he got a restraining order he is not allow to operate a motor vehicle on the same block? What if he had a destination on the next block? Doctor appointment? Is that something Goggle Maps can do for you?
"Hey Goggle. My wife put a restraining order on me. So how can I go to my appointment on the next two blocks without violating my restraining order?"
"Your destination is up ahead. I don't know!"
We don't know the gender of this "Goggle"
Yes, if you have a restraining order you can not drive by the house.
Why is that hard to understand?