Kaepernick sits during National Anthem

Why should we care?

You don't have to care about this or anything..😎

Between the American flag and the Confederate flag?

Ummm...yeah...whatever, Kap.

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me sad how poorly we do as a country conveying the role African Americans had in liberating themselves in the Civil War and how proud those black soldiers were carrying the Stars and Stripes into battle.

I think it is ok if he stays as long as he never removes his flag pin.

The 49ers referenced the 'freedom of religion" in their statement may be a clue about where this is coming from.

In comment 13088438 2ndroundKO said:

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Why should we care?

Seriously 2ndroundKO why be an asshole?

In comment 13088444 Eric from BBI said:

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me sad how poorly we do as a country conveying the role African Americans had in liberating themselves in the Civil War and how proud those black soldiers were carrying the Stars and Stripes into battle.

Great point

its meaningless.

just like BBI...

As Eric said as well in current times the men and women’s lives that have been lost fighting for that flag he obviously has zero knowledge or respect for.

This is what happens if a person spends too much time in California. There are school districts passing out "Pledge Of Allegiance" waivers. If they don't want to stand and recite the pledge, the waiver allows them to sit and stare at their I-phones. Just another sad indication of a country in the decline. Kap just may be suffering from "tattoo poisoning". Here in Houston, the school district has major budget problems. The Board Of Directors decided to close some schools and lay off teachers to save some money. Meanwhile, they have also decided to spend 1.4 million to rename 8 schools because the current names are affiliated with the confederacy. This is what happens when liberals are placed in decision making positions. Its all about political correctness with common sense thrown out the window.

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that once (if) he can't throw a football accurately any more, nobody cares what he thinks at all. Life can be tough when the high point is when you are 24 years old.

In comment 13088456 Jimmy Googs said:

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its meaningless. just like BBI...

Coffee spit!

but I have absolutely zero interest in players speaking out on social issues. I will never criticize them for keeping their social issue opinions to themselves.

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NFL players are criticized for not speaking out on social issues

some silly, unrelated, cartoonish, talk radio political soapbox.

Yay.

who are still fighting the Civil War. Not just a few, and some in very high positions of power.

And I have the right to think he's an asshole who has an IQ similar to an ice cube.

Maybe it would have raised somebodies social awareness if he was relevant at all.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media

but it helps to base it on accurate information

In comment 13088482 Vin R said:

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"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media

Maybe he should go block traffic on the freeway instead of making millions playing a game. Some people don't know how good they have it.

In comment 13088484 bc4life said:

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but it helps to base it on accurate information

Bingo.

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In comment 13088438 2ndroundKO said: Quote: Why should we care? Seriously 2ndroundKO why be an asshole?

I'm guessing it's because 2ndroundKO sides with CK on this...

To an end. Let me pull a ryan locte since I'll be irrelevant soon.

"Colin Kaepernick signed a 6 year, $114,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $12,328,766 signing bonus, $61,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000."


So Kap gets to enjoy all the benefits this country offers for hard work and talent, but he wont get off his ass for 3 minutes for our National Anthem ???

I can't wait til he's irrelevant again.

A truly perfect name for you. Perhaps Kap may be setting himself up for a position with the NAACP.

Should have shut up while he had the chance...

Especially young people, take political stands based on the spin the political parties put out there on the issues, especially during an election year.

Fighting social injustice has always been a just cause and the foundation of our country. But for this young man to buy into the idea that the Confederate flag represents the values behind the Stars and Stripes is just another example of not doing your homework and buying into flawed rhetoric.

I feel badly for the fall out he might receive from this action.

In comment 13088498 Named Later said:

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"Colin Kaepernick signed a 6 year, $114,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $12,328,766 signing bonus, $61,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000." So Kap gets to enjoy all the benefits this country offers for hard work and talent, but he wont get off his ass for 3 minutes for our National Anthem ??? I can't wait til he's irrelevant again.

^^^^^^ Best, if not only, point in the thread and about the incident.

but maybe give him credit for taking a position that will make him more unpopular with part of the fan base and trying to stand up for those who he believes have no voice.

Not saying he's a brain scientist or rocket surgeon but it still is a risky move and taking a stand for something is kind of what we salute in this country.

(However misguided) by showing disrespect. He's entitled to his viewpoint and also entitled to express it, but not by being disrespectful. He's just being s dumbass. As Erix said the degree to which we don't acknowledge fully what African Americans have gone through in our history and what their contribution was during the Civil War for example is sad. If that is he point he's trying to make it needs to be done much better.

In that they seem to want to have very tight control over every aspect of presentation at a game. This seems way more noticeable or even notorious than having the wrong colored shoes or a ribbon on the jersey.

Heather MacDonald of the Manhattan Institute
are police racist ? - ( New Window )

I always thought singing the National Anthem at sporting events was a little odd since we don't expect to do it at other public events. I understand why it is played during the Olympics that makes sense.

I mean you don't go to concerts, movies, award shows or fashion shows and expect to hear the Anthem. Are there any other instances other than political events or 4th of July celebrations where the Anthem is played other than sporting events? Off the top of my head I can't think of any.

In comment 13088510 oghwga said:

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but maybe give him credit for taking a position that will make him more unpopular with part of the fan base and trying to stand up for those who he believes have no voice. Not saying he's a brain scientist or rocket surgeon but it still is a risky move and taking a stand for something is kind of what we salute in this country.

It's a risky move....in the People's Republic of San Francisco? Are you serious?

In comment 13088513 Dave on the UWS said:

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(However misguided) by showing disrespect. He's entitled to his viewpoint and also entitled to express it, but not by being disrespectful. He's just being s dumbass. As Erix said the degree to which we don't acknowledge fully what African Americans have gone through in our history and what their contribution was during the Civil War for example is sad. If that is he point he's trying to make it needs to be done much better.

You don't? I guess people who attack politicians and demonstrate with "unfriendly" signs are not making a political statement.

Europe $119-$220

If anyone feels oppressed here in the USA, please leave. Pretty simple

with Kaepernick is I don't understand his protest, which sort of defeats the purpose I'd think.

argument, it just seems pretty short sighted from a practical standpoint. Career on the skids. Who wants an underperforming lightning rod?
Maybe he just doesn't care, or didn't think about how people will react to his stance.

In comment 13088553 Crispino said:

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argument, it just seems pretty short sighted from a practical standpoint. Career on the skids. Who wants an underperforming lightning rod? Maybe he just doesn't care, or didn't think about how people will react to his stance.

Otoh, there is that 61 ml guaranteed...😀

real guts to do what he did knowing the heat that he was inevitably going to take afterward.

In comment 13088541 DennyInDenville said:

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Europe $119-$220 If anyone feels oppressed here in the USA, please leave. Pretty simple

I'm not for Kaps actions but this is the dumbest line of thinking.

So any American who is unhappy with how things are run here should leave? Wouldnt standing up for change be a better option?

Again, I'm not condoning Kaps actions just pointing out how stupid your post is.

In comment 13088541 DennyInDenville said:

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Europe $119-$220 If anyone feels oppressed here in the USA, please leave. Pretty simple

Kaepernick's misguided petulance aside, your point is that there are no examples of legitimately oppressed Americans?

And that, moreover, rather than trying to change things for the better - as those under the heel have done (or tried to do) since America's inception - they should just leave?

Would that be your advice going back decades pre Civil Right bill, pre Lawrence vs Texas, etc. etc. or do you have a specific cutoff date in mind when feelings of oppression are uniformly invalid?

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which accompanied images of the American and Confederate flags: “The fact that you really believe that there is difference in these flags means that your [sic] ignoring history.”

It's a popular subject this year and made more fraught by the campaign, in ways regrettable and not so he's weighing in. I think it's too crude, too broad a swathe, especially in this environment.

But going back to Eric's point: to my discredit I've never been a careful student of our Civil War. But a few months ago I read Our Man in Charleston which traces the history of the British Consul (officially at times, not so others) in that city. He was an ardent anti-slaver in the pro-slaver crucible prior to Fort Sumter and for most of the war. His chronicle of the plight of slaves, the inhuman characterization and treatment, and the lengths that whites, rich and poor, went to perpetuate the culture here and the trade with Africa (if I recall accurately, on average 70% of each boatload would die during or as a result of the passage) was just jaw-dropping.

In comment 13088469 Steve in South Jersey said:

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NFL players are criticized for not speaking out on social issues

NFL players are criticized for not speak out on social issues, but only if they support the positions approved by those doing the criticizing.

In comment 13088541 DennyInDenville said:

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Europe $119-$220 If anyone feels oppressed here in the USA, please leave. Pretty simple

Huh?

I don't agree with what Kapernick did, but it's his right. And if people want to criticize him, that their's right too.

Fully support your post. You can also add how some high schools are starting later so students can get their rest? Ha ha ha ha ha

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real guts to do what he did knowing the heat that he was inevitably going to take afterward.

still don't agree with him politically and wouldn't want him on the Giants though

standing for the National Anthem if Kaepernick ever gets to play.