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NFT: Domestic terrorism

markky : 8/27/2016 9:36 am
Were terrorists like Timothy McVeigh or Ted K the Unibomber called "domestic terrorists" when they committed their crimes or was this label applied years later? Was th anthrax scare refered to as terrorism at the time?
as I recall  
Giantsfan79 : 8/27/2016 12:13 pm : link
McVeigh was considered a terrorist right of the bat because of the magnitude of his act.

Ted K was not considered a terrorist because he targeted specific people and had a far lower body count, thus he was considered a criminal.
I suspect this thread  
Bill in UT : 8/27/2016 12:27 pm : link
is going to go south
McVeigh yes, Unibomber no  
njm : 8/27/2016 12:39 pm : link
Anthrax "possibly" because the perpetrator wasn't identified.
Domestic Terrorism?  
Reb8thVA : 8/27/2016 4:10 pm : link
That is what I call it when my wife nags me.
Couldn't find  
Mike in Marin : 8/27/2016 5:17 pm : link
the history of the term, or when it was first used, but according to this, it looks like 1992 is when it was added to federal law as a definition, assuming I am reading the references properly.

It was probably used journalistically earlier. It's not that surgical/unique a term where it would be easy to find the first reference.
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Unabomber's acts  
Mike in Marin : 8/27/2016 5:19 pm : link
most certainly were domestic terrorism. Certainly had a political/ideological agenda. Is the argument that since he acted alone ? Not sure that would matter. Surely some other people vaguely agreed with his agenda in spirit if not in deed.
From wiki's page on DT  
Mike in Marin : 8/27/2016 5:22 pm : link
Definitions of domestic terrorism[edit]
The statutory definition of domestic terrorism in the United States has changed many times over the years; also, it can be argued that acts of domestic terrorism have been occurring since long before any legal definition was set forth.

Under current United States law, set forth in the USA PATRIOT Act, acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended – (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States."[2]


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Unibomber  
bc4life : 8/28/2016 8:06 am : link
was mentally ill, think he was diagnosed as schizophrenic.
The insurance  
Bubba : 8/28/2016 8:15 am : link
industry depends on these definitions. Since 9/11 a terrorism clause has been added to insurance policies. Domestic Terrorism is specifically excluded from coverage even if you opt to purchase terrorism coverage.
RE: Unibomber  
AP in Halfmoon : 8/28/2016 9:47 am : link
In comment 13090704 bc4life said:
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was mentally ill, think he was diagnosed as schizophrenic.


As are most terrorists
The anthrax attacks remain a helluva mystery  
Greg from LI : 8/28/2016 10:53 am : link
The FBI pinned it all on Bruce Ivins, but there seem to be some major question marks there.
AP  
bc4life : 8/28/2016 12:16 pm : link
No they are not.
Most home grown  
Mike in Marin : 8/29/2016 3:43 pm : link
and lone-wolf terrorists are mentally ill.

But religious ones, of which there are a lot more of obviously, are generally not. They rationally believe they are working for God.
McVeigh  
bc4life : 8/29/2016 7:50 pm : link
Klan, Neo-Nazi movements none are mentally ill.
I disagree  
AP in Halfmoon : 8/29/2016 7:54 pm : link
The Orlando shooter was nuts. The guy who shot up the theater in Colorado. The Uni bomber.
RE: I suspect this thread  
Motley Two : 8/29/2016 8:14 pm : link
In comment 13088600 Bill in UT said:
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is going to go south


but will it rise again?
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