Has been hitting great lately, Paul O"Niell pointed out his at bats with runners in scoring position, I would not say this kid won't be the yanks second baseman for a long time, this kid is just taping in to his potential, he is 26, writing off players when they are 26 is moronic.
Yup.
RE: I've got an example, and I didn't need to look very far.
to get some perspective. On vacation this week I was watching the Seattle feed online and they were raving about the power the Yanks have at the MI. Some here make it seem like Castro is garbage. The guy is probably going to go 25/75-80 with excellent defense. No too shabby.
By the way, Drew hit 17 HRs in 383 ABs, I read somewhere that hitting 20-25 HRs meant you were a good player - any doubt Drew would have gotten there with a full season of ABs?
By the way, Drew hit 17 HRs in 383 ABs, I read somewhere that hitting 20-25 HRs meant you were a good player - any doubt Drew would have gotten there with a full season of ABs?
Over a career(large sample size, you've heard of that), Drew's 162 game average would be 16 HR's a year. Not quite 20-25.
What everyone left in the bowl this morning is smarter than Stan, but since Drew would have accomplished this in a full season last year please explain how Drew sucked. You established the criteria, so just asking.
Castro is better, but not by as wide a margin as you would think.
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By the way, Drew hit 17 HRs in 383 ABs, I read somewhere that hitting 20-25 HRs meant you were a good player - any doubt Drew would have gotten there with a full season of ABs?
Over a career(large sample size, you've heard of that), Drew's 162 game average would be 16 HR's a year. Not quite 20-25.
And Castro's is 13, do you have a point? Yeah, not so much...
to get some perspective. On vacation this week I was watching the Seattle feed online and they were raving about the power the Yanks have at the MI. Some here make it seem like Castro is garbage. The guy is probably going to go 25/75-80 with excellent defense. No too shabby.
Not too shabby at all, although some folks would say that 'sucks'.
If I trusted you to identify what sucks, you would have changed your posting style years ago.
And yes, it's possible to hit 20-25 HRs and suck...figure it out.
Rob, you are just flat out wrong. I don't know what your problem is, but you are just flat out wrong. Castro is is a damn good player. Is he a wild swinger? Yep. Is he effective? Absolutely. Same stats as Didi....
is not a damn good player. Guy once in a while runs into a pitch, but he is not the guy we should want any of our young players watching. I hope they trade him again, even if its for a high five and a coke
as long as Castro keeps producing like he has been I'll be happy. This offense has been sick since the trade deadline. Almost 30 runs in the last 2 days alone.
is not a damn good player. Guy once in a while runs into a pitch, but he is not the guy we should want any of our young players watching. I hope they trade him again, even if its for a high five and a coke
Bullshit. He doesn't run into a pitch every now and then. He's a crazy ass wild ass swinger that will hit 20 +Hrs. He needs Thames to quiet him down a bit. You don't make it to 3 NL allstar games at SS on a whim. If you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball. All he needs is some instruction. SOB is 26 years old. He could be the 3rd baseman to replace Headley.
is not a damn good player. Guy once in a while runs into a pitch, but he is not the guy we should want any of our young players watching. I hope they trade him again, even if its for a high five and a coke
Bullshit. He doesn't run into a pitch every now and then. He's a crazy ass wild ass swinger that will hit 20 +Hrs. He needs Thames to quiet him down a bit. You don't make it to 3 NL allstar games at SS on a whim. If you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball. All he needs is some instruction. SOB is 26 years old. He could be the 3rd baseman to replace Headley.
He has hit 20+ homers exactly zero times in his career to this point. Let's just say he gets there this year, we should assume he will do it every year because he does it one year? And even in that one year, he's not even worth 1 WAR.
Have to love the "if you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball". I guess the rest of the league doesn't know baseball, because the Yankees got him for nothing. He "just needs some instruction", yeah because he hasn't been getting any of that the last 8 or whatever years, right?
His last start he was hitting 94 and even hit 95 on atleast 1 pitch. The big fella will throw a good one I believe. And finish the season strong for that matter. Good play, is contagious, and cc has shown signs he can alter his game all season.
I like Castro for his youth and confidence and defense
His plate discipline is HORRENDOUS tho. And his attitude is iffy but seems to be okay. He got lazy in the field once this year and it cost the Yankees a few runs on a casual throw that he should have rushed more but other then that and the horrible batters eye he's good in my book.
However if he hits 20 something homers and his trade value is high I would absolutely deal him in a nano second for an arm.
I will admit that there is a chance he could improve and have a couple AllStar seasons though. The talent is certainly there, but let's see how it shakes out. I won't be mad if he's traded and I won't be mad if he's kept.
Headly, Gardy, McCann should be traded. Especially Headly and Gardy, we need room at LF for Frazier plus Hicks they will want to keep you know that. Gonna be a big offseason, but next offseason is the really BiGTiME one
is not a damn good player. Guy once in a while runs into a pitch, but he is not the guy we should want any of our young players watching. I hope they trade him again, even if its for a high five and a coke
Bullshit. He doesn't run into a pitch every now and then. He's a crazy ass wild ass swinger that will hit 20 +Hrs. He needs Thames to quiet him down a bit. You don't make it to 3 NL allstar games at SS on a whim. If you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball. All he needs is some instruction. SOB is 26 years old. He could be the 3rd baseman to replace Headley.
He has hit 20+ homers exactly zero times in his career to this point. Let's just say he gets there this year, we should assume he will do it every year because he does it one year? And even in that one year, he's not even worth 1 WAR.
Have to love the "if you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball". I guess the rest of the league doesn't know baseball, because the Yankees got him for nothing. He "just needs some instruction", yeah because he hasn't been getting any of that the last 8 or whatever years, right?
You are talking out your ass. Cubs dumped salary for something they think is better. 3 time all star, so the league knows nothing? What they made a mistake?
I don't want to get into a pissing contest, so let's see how this plays out. I don't mind admitting I'm wrong. Paul O'Neill seems to disagree with you. Says he needs to learn to go the other way and will be a .300 hitter +. I like Castro's ability. I see something beyond the player we see now. I see talent. I see a player overswinging. I see a player that knows he's making mistakes.
Castro is frustrating because he obviously has very good talent but
thought he was a damn good player, the Yankees would not have gotten him for nothing, regardless of why the Cubs wanted to get rid of him.
Even with his 18 home runs here this year, he has not been even close to a damn good player.
If a lot of players learned to go the other way, they would hit .300. It's easy to talk about, a lot more difficult to actually do. He is what he is, a free swinger that wants to pull everything. His plate discipline is a fucking train wreck. I don't want that influence anywhere near guys like Sanchez
thought he was a damn good player, the Yankees would not have gotten him for nothing, regardless of why the Cubs wanted to get rid of him.
Even with his 18 home runs here this year, he has not been even close to a damn good player.
If a lot of players learned to go the other way, they would hit .300. It's easy to talk about, a lot more difficult to actually do. He is what he is, a free swinger that wants to pull everything. His plate discipline is a fucking train wreck. I don't want that influence anywhere near guys like Sanchez
At what level did you play baseball? He doesn't influence a single person in that dugout. Not one. Not one player gives a shit for how he swings - not one. Only Girardi, Pena, Thames and Thompson gives a shit how he swings. If a great player like O'Neill sees the issue, you don't think the Yankees see what he's doing. He's 26, you don't think he can be taught to cut back a bit? I'll bet he can be taught to shorten that swing. Not saying it is easy, but Didi went from a .190 batter against lefties to .360.
If not for that horrible loss against TOR with the rain delay,
can be contagious. I don't want players with bad habits like Castro has anywhere near our promising young players.
It's not hard to see what Castro's issue is. His issue is he has zero plate discipline and tries to pull everything. I didn't need Paul O'Neill to tell me that.
He's been in the majors for a while now. Good luck breaking his bad habits. He is regressing as a player, not getting better. It's been that way since basically he came into the league. He's not some guy with only 500 MLB AB's under his belt
in 2010, had two very good years in 2011 and 2012, and has been regressing ever since.
I think he is what he is. I don't want him around this team next year. The one and only thing he has done this year is hit homers. Yanks can replace that
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can be contagious. I don't want players with bad habits like Castro has anywhere near our promising young players.
How is Castro pulling the ball too much going to cause young players to do the same?
Then yes, we can't let Starlin and a good rookie share a locker, clearly.
Pre-all-star, he hit .256 with a .688 OPS. Post all-star, he is .283 with a .795 OPS. Could it be that like Didi his first year with the Yankees, he pressed earlier in the season but has found his stroke and calmed back down? Post-all-star is 145 ABs--not a huge sample, but not tiny either.
Then yes, we can't let Starlin and a good rookie share a locker, clearly.
Pre-all-star, he hit .256 with a .688 OPS. Post all-star, he is .283 with a .795 OPS. Could it be that like Didi his first year with the Yankees, he pressed earlier in the season but has found his stroke and calmed back down? Post-all-star is 145 ABs--not a huge sample, but not tiny either.
Then yes, we can't let Starlin and a good rookie share a locker, clearly.
Pre-all-star, he hit .256 with a .688 OPS. Post all-star, he is .283 with a .795 OPS. Could it be that like Didi his first year with the Yankees, he pressed earlier in the season but has found his stroke and calmed back down? Post-all-star is 145 ABs--not a huge sample, but not tiny either.
is that Didi barely had a full season of major league ABs between Cincy and Arizona, whereas Castro has over 4,000 ML AB's.
And please, can we stop talking about HRs? Not very good offensive players have hit 25 HRs, and very useful offensive players have hit 10. You can be a very replaceable offensive players (like Drew and yes, like Castro, to a somewhat lesser extent) and hit 15-20 HRs.
He is was we thought he was...decent hitter with some pop, poor plate discipline, above average fielder.
As far as the Yanks problems, he's nowhere near the top. How about Ellsbury and Gardner? Neither of them are matching the season Castro is having, and they're both supposed to be better.
Castro is fine until we can upgrade with one of the kids. He'll never be Robbie Cano, but he's light years better than some mishmash of Stephen Drew and the corpse of Brian Roberts
There are far bigger Yankee short comings then Castro
You're kidding yourself if you think Castro is more productive than Gardner.
It's a question of expectations, at least for me - Castro has performed about where I thought he would, while Gardy is regressing from what he used to be
Yup.
O'Neill didn't develop better plate discipline at age 30, and it is the norm for careers to progress with a peak around 30.
It is very, very unlikely that Castro is anything other than a free swinger, limiting his offensive usefulness.
If we can get a nice arm for him we need to trade him, otherwise he's fine to stay on the team for a while IMO.
By the way, Drew hit 17 HRs in 383 ABs, I read somewhere that hitting 20-25 HRs meant you were a good player - any doubt Drew would have gotten there with a full season of ABs?
Good God, don't ever post that again..
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By the way, Drew hit 17 HRs in 383 ABs, I read somewhere that hitting 20-25 HRs meant you were a good player - any doubt Drew would have gotten there with a full season of ABs?
Over a career(large sample size, you've heard of that), Drew's 162 game average would be 16 HR's a year. Not quite 20-25.
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Good God, don't ever post that again..
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Anyone who can't tell the LARGE difference between Castro and Drew as players knows ZERO about baseball.
That's not sucking.
What everyone left in the bowl this morning is smarter than Stan, but since Drew would have accomplished this in a full season last year please explain how Drew sucked. You established the criteria, so just asking.
Castro is better, but not by as wide a margin as you would think.
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By the way, Drew hit 17 HRs in 383 ABs, I read somewhere that hitting 20-25 HRs meant you were a good player - any doubt Drew would have gotten there with a full season of ABs?
Over a career(large sample size, you've heard of that), Drew's 162 game average would be 16 HR's a year. Not quite 20-25.
And Castro's is 13, do you have a point? Yeah, not so much...
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You guys rather have Drew back playing second:)
Good God, don't ever post that again..
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Exactly. You would have had to watched Drew to appreciate his amazing suck-a-tude.
Not too shabby at all, although some folks would say that 'sucks'.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Stan in LA playbook.
Drew sucked, Castro is awesome.
Why? Because Castro will hit 20-25 HRs this year.
Drew had the same number of HRs as Castro in fewer ABs.
But Drew's 162 game average is 16, nowhere near 20-25.
Castro's is 13
Hey, I will quote another poster who mentioned something about the Seattle broadcast team.
It's so easy to kick Stan around the corner, I almost feel bad about it.
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That's not sucking.
If I trusted you to identify what sucks, you would have changed your posting style years ago.
And yes, it's possible to hit 20-25 HRs and suck...figure it out.
Rob, you are just flat out wrong. I don't know what your problem is, but you are just flat out wrong. Castro is is a damn good player. Is he a wild swinger? Yep. Is he effective? Absolutely. Same stats as Didi....
Angels currently up 3-2 on Detroit, 9th inning
Mariners fell to the White Sox
and the Royals lost to the Red Sox (which was my slightly preferred result).
Bullshit. He doesn't run into a pitch every now and then. He's a crazy ass wild ass swinger that will hit 20 +Hrs. He needs Thames to quiet him down a bit. You don't make it to 3 NL allstar games at SS on a whim. If you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball. All he needs is some instruction. SOB is 26 years old. He could be the 3rd baseman to replace Headley.
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is not a damn good player. Guy once in a while runs into a pitch, but he is not the guy we should want any of our young players watching. I hope they trade him again, even if its for a high five and a coke
Bullshit. He doesn't run into a pitch every now and then. He's a crazy ass wild ass swinger that will hit 20 +Hrs. He needs Thames to quiet him down a bit. You don't make it to 3 NL allstar games at SS on a whim. If you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball. All he needs is some instruction. SOB is 26 years old. He could be the 3rd baseman to replace Headley.
He has hit 20+ homers exactly zero times in his career to this point. Let's just say he gets there this year, we should assume he will do it every year because he does it one year? And even in that one year, he's not even worth 1 WAR.
Have to love the "if you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball". I guess the rest of the league doesn't know baseball, because the Yankees got him for nothing. He "just needs some instruction", yeah because he hasn't been getting any of that the last 8 or whatever years, right?
Just a feeling
His last start he was hitting 94 and even hit 95 on atleast 1 pitch. The big fella will throw a good one I believe. And finish the season strong for that matter. Good play, is contagious, and cc has shown signs he can alter his game all season.
However if he hits 20 something homers and his trade value is high I would absolutely deal him in a nano second for an arm.
I will admit that there is a chance he could improve and have a couple AllStar seasons though. The talent is certainly there, but let's see how it shakes out. I won't be mad if he's traded and I won't be mad if he's kept.
Headly, Gardy, McCann should be traded. Especially Headly and Gardy, we need room at LF for Frazier plus Hicks they will want to keep you know that. Gonna be a big offseason, but next offseason is the really BiGTiME one
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is not a damn good player. Guy once in a while runs into a pitch, but he is not the guy we should want any of our young players watching. I hope they trade him again, even if its for a high five and a coke
Bullshit. He doesn't run into a pitch every now and then. He's a crazy ass wild ass swinger that will hit 20 +Hrs. He needs Thames to quiet him down a bit. You don't make it to 3 NL allstar games at SS on a whim. If you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball. All he needs is some instruction. SOB is 26 years old. He could be the 3rd baseman to replace Headley.
He has hit 20+ homers exactly zero times in his career to this point. Let's just say he gets there this year, we should assume he will do it every year because he does it one year? And even in that one year, he's not even worth 1 WAR.
Have to love the "if you don't see a good baseball player, you don't know baseball". I guess the rest of the league doesn't know baseball, because the Yankees got him for nothing. He "just needs some instruction", yeah because he hasn't been getting any of that the last 8 or whatever years, right?
You are talking out your ass. Cubs dumped salary for something they think is better. 3 time all star, so the league knows nothing? What they made a mistake?
I don't want to get into a pissing contest, so let's see how this plays out. I don't mind admitting I'm wrong. Paul O'Neill seems to disagree with you. Says he needs to learn to go the other way and will be a .300 hitter +. I like Castro's ability. I see something beyond the player we see now. I see talent. I see a player overswinging. I see a player that knows he's making mistakes.
Even with his 18 home runs here this year, he has not been even close to a damn good player.
If a lot of players learned to go the other way, they would hit .300. It's easy to talk about, a lot more difficult to actually do. He is what he is, a free swinger that wants to pull everything. His plate discipline is a fucking train wreck. I don't want that influence anywhere near guys like Sanchez
Angels currently up 3-2 on Detroit, 9th inning
Mariners fell to the White Sox
and the Royals lost to the Red Sox (which was my slightly preferred result).
Yep. We did good in this department today, as well.
Even with his 18 home runs here this year, he has not been even close to a damn good player.
If a lot of players learned to go the other way, they would hit .300. It's easy to talk about, a lot more difficult to actually do. He is what he is, a free swinger that wants to pull everything. His plate discipline is a fucking train wreck. I don't want that influence anywhere near guys like Sanchez
At what level did you play baseball? He doesn't influence a single person in that dugout. Not one. Not one player gives a shit for how he swings - not one. Only Girardi, Pena, Thames and Thompson gives a shit how he swings. If a great player like O'Neill sees the issue, you don't think the Yankees see what he's doing. He's 26, you don't think he can be taught to cut back a bit? I'll bet he can be taught to shorten that swing. Not saying it is easy, but Didi went from a .190 batter against lefties to .360.
Throw in the horrible loss at Seattle and they'd be 2 out of first place in the loss column.
It's not hard to see what Castro's issue is. His issue is he has zero plate discipline and tries to pull everything. I didn't need Paul O'Neill to tell me that.
He's been in the majors for a while now. Good luck breaking his bad habits. He is regressing as a player, not getting better. It's been that way since basically he came into the league. He's not some guy with only 500 MLB AB's under his belt
I think he is what he is. I don't want him around this team next year. The one and only thing he has done this year is hit homers. Yanks can replace that
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can be contagious. I don't want players with bad habits like Castro has anywhere near our promising young players.
How is Castro pulling the ball too much going to cause young players to do the same?
Then yes, we can't let Starlin and a good rookie share a locker, clearly.
Pre-all-star, he hit .256 with a .688 OPS. Post all-star, he is .283 with a .795 OPS. Could it be that like Didi his first year with the Yankees, he pressed earlier in the season but has found his stroke and calmed back down? Post-all-star is 145 ABs--not a huge sample, but not tiny either.
Then yes, we can't let Starlin and a good rookie share a locker, clearly.
Pre-all-star, he hit .256 with a .688 OPS. Post all-star, he is .283 with a .795 OPS. Could it be that like Didi his first year with the Yankees, he pressed earlier in the season but has found his stroke and calmed back down? Post-all-star is 145 ABs--not a huge sample, but not tiny either.
Then yes, we can't let Starlin and a good rookie share a locker, clearly.
Pre-all-star, he hit .256 with a .688 OPS. Post all-star, he is .283 with a .795 OPS. Could it be that like Didi his first year with the Yankees, he pressed earlier in the season but has found his stroke and calmed back down? Post-all-star is 145 ABs--not a huge sample, but not tiny either.
And please, can we stop talking about HRs? Not very good offensive players have hit 25 HRs, and very useful offensive players have hit 10. You can be a very replaceable offensive players (like Drew and yes, like Castro, to a somewhat lesser extent) and hit 15-20 HRs.
As far as the Yanks problems, he's nowhere near the top. How about Ellsbury and Gardner? Neither of them are matching the season Castro is having, and they're both supposed to be better.
Castro is fine until we can upgrade with one of the kids. He'll never be Robbie Cano, but he's light years better than some mishmash of Stephen Drew and the corpse of Brian Roberts
It's a question of expectations, at least for me - Castro has performed about where I thought he would, while Gardy is regressing from what he used to be