FF Thread 8-29

Which Murray is that at RB2?

QB's get 1 point for every 10 yards passing, instead of 20 or 25

QB
Eli Manning
Philip Rivers

RB
Doug Martin
Jeremy Langford
DeAngelo Williams
Derrick Henry
Justin Forsett

WR
Odell Beckham Jr.
Dez Bryant
Brandin Cooks
Eric Decker

TE
Tyler Eifert
Julius Thomas

Kansas City Chiefs D
Chris Boswell

In comment 13091843 Mr Brightside said:

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Which Murray is that at RB2?

Latavius Murry

The one with 1 point for 10 yards passing, it may have been better to get a QB earlier but we will see what Eli does this year.

In comment 13091849 Saos1n said:

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QB's get 1 point for every 10 yards passing, instead of 20 or 25 QB Eli Manning Philip Rivers RB Doug Martin Jeremy Langford DeAngelo Williams Derrick Henry Justin Forsett WR Odell Beckham Jr. Dez Bryant Brandin Cooks Eric Decker TE Tyler Eifert Julius Thomas Kansas City Chiefs D Chris Boswell

THat is stacked. Did you draft with morons?

Going WR-WR first 2 rounds the looking for a RB early third. How would you rank this group...Martin, Ingram, Lacy, Charles, McCoy?

It is a 12 team PPR league. We start 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FL, 1 K, 1 D. We keep between 2 and 4 players.

My team:

Cam (keeper)
Fitz

David Johnson (keeper)
Forte
Foster
D. Williams
Theo Riddick

Nelson (Keeper)
D. Thomas (Keeper)
Gordon
Funchess
C. Coleman
T. Sharpe

Ertz

Bailey

Giants





Her Team:

Wilson (Keeper)
Tannehill

Lacy
Hyde
Hill
Forsett
Crowell
Henry

Dez (keeper)
Marshall
K. Benjamin
Parker
White

Eifert

Gano

Vikings


I think she totally transformed that team.

In comment 13091881 Mr Brightside said:

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Going WR-WR first 2 rounds the looking for a RB early third. How would you rank this group...Martin, Ingram, Lacy, Charles, McCoy?

All those RBs could be gone depending on where you draft.

qbs get 3 pts for td's. had the 11th pick. Start 2rb,2wr,1flex

Qb Brees, Rivers
RB Charles, Stewart, Hyde, Ware West
WR Green, Moncrief, Marvin Jones, Will Fuller
TE Thomas, Witten
DEF Carolina
K Tucker

Not bad. Some crazy things in this draft. Guy took Giants kicker brown in rd 8. Gimmy Graham went rd 6. McCoy went rd 1.

In comment 13091881 Mr Brightside said:

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Going WR-WR first 2 rounds the looking for a RB early third. How would you rank this group...Martin, Ingram, Lacy, Charles, McCoy?

In a 10 team with .5 ppr I would go
Charles,McCoy,Martin,Lacy,Ingram

then he got the concussion and I wasn't going to draft him. Then in the last two drafts he fell to like the 7th round. At that point I think he is worth the risk. He was going anywhere in the 3rd to 4th round before the concussion.

this is the first year in a while we won't know our pick until an hour before the draft so I need to prep who to take if I get a pick from 7-12.

In comment 13091895 UConn4523 said:

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this is the first year in a while we won't know our pick until an hour before the draft so I need to prep who to take if I get a pick from 7-12.

I have seen some crazy stuff in drafts like Julio dropping until the 9th pick. If DJ is there I would take him. Just off the top of my head my top 7 would be:

Brown
Beckham
DJ
Julio
Gurley
Green (assuming he is okay)
Hopkins
AP

Elliot would be some time shortly after. If you pick in the back of the round I find my teams turn out better overall when I get a RB and WR in any order. This is using CBS. Their rankings are weird so you can get really nice receivers in the 3rd and 4th round like Cooper, Evans, Landry, D. Thomas, Cobb, and someone else I cannot remember. The RBs available are sketchy at best.

really wanting a top 5 pick which I usually never want, but I'm starting to find a ton of value again in the back half. You really do make out better with that 2nd pick who can still be a 1st round talent.

There is not enough information out. Just opinion that says it isn't serious. I have heard that before where the results came back and there was something wrong.

what site do you use?

He is the troubled / asshole kid with ton of talent right?

He looked pretty good in their last game and was running with the 1s

my personal league is Yahoo! but I also have to do my brother-in-laws draft this Saturday and that's ESPN.

In comment 13091915 ron mexico said:

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He is the troubled / asshole kid with ton of talent right? He looked pretty good in their last game and was running with the 1s

I don't know if he provides any run after the catch ability but he seems like a nice security blanket for Big Ben. I like him. He is going undrafted which is why I have only one TE on my rosters. I can pick up another one later. Unless you are getting 2 stud TEs I do not see the need for an average or unproven backup on your roster. I have a league with 17 roster spots and there are some decent TEs out there but nobody I want taking up a roster spot right now. I would rather draft some WRs and RBs and let them sort of separate themselves first before I know who I want to drop for an extra TE/K/D.

In comment 13091921 UConn4523 said:

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my personal league is Yahoo! but I also have to do my brother-in-laws draft this Saturday and that's ESPN.

I cannot speak to those leagues and their rankings.

either sites rankings but hope everyone else in the league does. Yahoo! is our in person draft and I have a good idea of how each manager makes picks. The ESPN one I have no idea so it will be BPA all the way using a mixture of draft rankings most likely.

In comment 13091941 UConn4523 said:

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either sites rankings but hope everyone else in the league does. Yahoo! is our in person draft and I have a good idea of how each manager makes picks. The ESPN one I have no idea so it will be BPA all the way using a mixture of draft rankings most likely.

It isn't that I go by their rankings but when other owners are searching for players they are much more likely to go with a player at the top of the lis than further down. CBS has Landry, D. Thomas, Cobb, etc. as 4th round players so most owners do not scroll down that far to see them.

In comment 13091921 UConn4523 said:

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my personal league is Yahoo! but I also have to do my brother-in-laws draft this Saturday and that's ESPN.

I use Yahoo! and literally had the exact same thoughts about where I want my pick.

In comment 13091949 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 13091941 UConn4523 said: Quote: either sites rankings but hope everyone else in the league does. Yahoo! is our in person draft and I have a good idea of how each manager makes picks. The ESPN one I have no idea so it will be BPA all the way using a mixture of draft rankings most likely. It isn't that I go by their rankings but when other owners are searching for players they are much more likely to go with a player at the top of the lis than further down. CBS has Landry, D. Thomas, Cobb, etc. as 4th round players so most owners do not scroll down that far to see them.

Yeah that could come into play for the ESPN one, but the live in person draft will come down to a mish mash of people who make their own rankings, bring a magazine (awful), or print out Walter Football's top 200 or whatever.

We usually pick to pick but that got voted down this year so we won't know until day of. I don't mind because I'll have a strategy either way, but it does make the week leading up to it a bit more tedious since I can't prep 1 specific pick.

It was one of those drafts where on about 3-4 different occasions, a player I really wanted got snaked the pick before me and one of the times it happened, I really had no backup plan and kind of scrambled (which is where I wound up with Ivory)

I don't love it but I think I'll be okay. 10 team PPR

Brady, Cousins
McCoy, Forte, Mathews, Ivory, Sims
Julio, Evans, MJonesJr, Snead, Smith Sr, Boyd
Reed, Eifert
K
NYG D/ST

If I'm at 4 and Brown, Beckham, and JJ are gone am I okay taking Hopkins or Green at 4 or should I grab AP, Gurley, or DJ?

In comment 13092046 Miami_JintsFan said:

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If I'm at 4 and Brown, Beckham, and JJ are gone am I okay taking Hopkins or Green at 4 or should I grab AP, Gurley, or DJ?

What are your settings? I'd probably go your top rated RB over Hopkins, but I'd be thinking about that a lot.

In comment 13092007 arcarsenal said:

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It was one of those drafts where on about 3-4 different occasions, a player I really wanted got snaked the pick before me and one of the times it happened, I really had no backup plan and kind of scrambled (which is where I wound up with Ivory) I don't love it but I think I'll be okay. 10 team PPR Brady, Cousins McCoy, Forte, Mathews, Ivory, Sims Julio, Evans, MJonesJr, Snead, Smith Sr, Boyd Reed, Eifert K NYG D/ST

Did you end up going with McCoy or Evans in the 2nd?

Got McCoy on the wrap.

I have never drafted a player on the cowboys, eagles redskins or jets.

I refuse.

Reed/Eifert picks as long as they weren't too expensive. What rounds did you pick them up in?

10 team .5 ppr. draft the other day. 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 WR/RB start. I had the 8th pick:

QB - Eli, Carr
RB - Freeman, Forte, Blount, Coleman and Powell (This is where I'm weakest. Grabbed coleman and powell as insurance)
WR - Green, Jeffrey, Tate, E Sanders, S. Diggs
TE - Julius Thomas, M. Bennett
DST - Arizona
K - Crosby

Its not terrible compared to all the other teams, but I have a feeling I'm going to have to get very lucky with some of these guys.

I'm thinking of signing up

In comment 13092007 arcarsenal said:

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It was one of those drafts where on about 3-4 different occasions, a player I really wanted got snaked the pick before me and one of the times it happened, I really had no backup plan and kind of scrambled (which is where I wound up with Ivory) I don't love it but I think I'll be okay. 10 team PPR Brady, Cousins McCoy, Forte, Mathews, Ivory, Sims Julio, Evans, MJonesJr, Snead, Smith Sr, Boyd Reed, Eifert K NYG D/ST

I actually really like that team, even putting my favoritism for Ivory aside.

In comment 13092085 Old Dirty Beckham said:

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I have never drafted a player on the cowboys, eagles redskins or jets. I refuse.

You're hurting your chances of success by showing bias. All's fair in love and war in my opinion. Now, if I am torn on two players and one of them plays for Dallas? I take the other guy of course. But if you have a guy sitting there that is better than the alternative, you better take him.

In comment 13092085 Old Dirty Beckham said:

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I have never drafted a player on the cowboys, eagles redskins or jets. I refuse.

I actually can't remember the last time I did either (not counting kicker). I drafted McCoy #1 overall one year but flipped him for megatron and AJ straight up before the season even started. I might've picked up Bradshaw in 2011 and i picked up cousins this past year for a few weeks I think.

Thoughts? 10 team ppr league.

Aaron Rodgers

Le'Veon Bell
LeSean McCoy
DeMarco Murray
Danny Woodhead
Ameer Abdullah
T.J. Yeldon

Keenan Allen
Randall Cobb
Golden Tate
Michael Crabtree
Willie Snead
Michael Thomas

Zach Miller
Jared Cook

NY Giants DEF

Robbie Gould


I know my tight ends are pretty bad.

In comment 13092086 leatherneck570 said:

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Reed/Eifert picks as long as they weren't too expensive. What rounds did you pick them up in?

Took Reed @ 4.8 and then got Eifert in the 14th. Felt like it was a good way to hedge. Reed probably won't play 16 games but if he can just make it to the point when Eifert gets back, I will have a legit contingency plan. End of 4th was basically the spot where I went into the draft thinking I'd probably take Reed if he was there.. to me, he was the best player on the board at that point value-wise.

In comment 13092098 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13092007 arcarsenal said: Quote: It was one of those drafts where on about 3-4 different occasions, a player I really wanted got snaked the pick before me and one of the times it happened, I really had no backup plan and kind of scrambled (which is where I wound up with Ivory) I don't love it but I think I'll be okay. 10 team PPR Brady, Cousins McCoy, Forte, Mathews, Ivory, Sims Julio, Evans, MJonesJr, Snead, Smith Sr, Boyd Reed, Eifert K NYG D/ST I actually really like that team, even putting my favoritism for Ivory aside.

Thanks, figured you'd like the Ivory part after our discussion about the JAX RB's the other day.. haha.

In comment 13092106 RicFlair said:

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Thoughts? 10 team ppr league. Aaron Rodgers Le'Veon Bell LeSean McCoy DeMarco Murray Danny Woodhead Ameer Abdullah T.J. Yeldon Keenan Allen Randall Cobb Golden Tate Michael Crabtree Willie Snead Michael Thomas Zach Miller Jared Cook NY Giants DEF Robbie Gould I know my tight ends are pretty bad.

Weak TE's but loaded at RB and elite QB. Solid group of WR's as well. I like it.

we also draft defensive players and you can draft them at any point in the draft. For perspective, the best def player last year was Watt. He scored around 90 pts in our league. That's the same scoring output as a mediocre backup RB or WR so while you definitely want good defensive players you don't want to draft them too early. It's simply not worth it, but players in my league continue to reach for them starting in round 7 or so. I always wait and have consistently fielded good defensive teams annually.

I always wait on the QB and TE unless a guy like Olsen or Gronk somehow slips to round 4 or so, which never happens.

I picked 7th, and was very happy to do so. We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE and kicker + DST. I figured i'd get a beast WR early and a bell cow RB early no matter how things shook out. Turns out I was right:

QBs Eli and Cutler (rounds 10 and beyond)
RB David Johnson (7th overall)
RB Woodhead (round 5)
Backup RBs (Billal Powell, Forsett and Christine Michael)
WR Hopkins (2nd round)
WR Cooks (3rd round)
WR Doug Baldwin (4th round)
backup WRs (Crabtree, Marvin Jones and Tajea Sharpe)
TE Zack Ertz and Jenkins (Tampa)
Kicker who the hell cares (Gould)
DTS - Steelers and Pats (both top 7 last year)

My defensive players are just fine. Everyone healthy and coming off top 5-10 seasons. My DBs were top 1 and 3 respectively.

While the run on QBs was ongoing I was loading up on WR and RB. Then people started going IDP crazy in the latter rounds and I loaded up on my WR and RB depth. I think I killed it. More so this year than last year. We shall see. I drafted Christine Michael somewhere in the 20s how I got him that late I will never know. He's the #1 RB in Seattle right now. I don't care if he doesn't play a snap, that's a steal.

Am I crazy or is my team stacked?

In comment 13092106 RicFlair said:

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Thoughts? 10 team ppr league. Aaron Rodgers Le'Veon Bell LeSean McCoy DeMarco Murray Danny Woodhead Ameer Abdullah T.J. Yeldon Keenan Allen Randall Cobb Golden Tate Michael Crabtree Willie Snead Michael Thomas Zach Miller Jared Cook NY Giants DEF Robbie Gould I know my tight ends are pretty bad.

I should also add that passing touchdowns for qb's are 6 points instead of the usual 4 points. It's why I went for Rodgers early instead of waiting on qb.

In comment 13092112 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13092086 leatherneck570 said: Quote: Reed/Eifert picks as long as they weren't too expensive. What rounds did you pick them up in? Took Reed @ 4.8 and then got Eifert in the 14th. Felt like it was a good way to hedge. Reed probably won't play 16 games but if he can just make it to the point when Eifert gets back, I will have a legit contingency plan. End of 4th was basically the spot where I went into the draft thinking I'd probably take Reed if he was there.. to me, he was the best player on the board at that point value-wise.

Smart.

Woodhead is consistently underrated year in year out. He's currently listed as the 25th best RB for most leagues yet in a 1/2 PPR league last season he finished 8th in points scored among RBs and he was even better in full PPR. And what's good about Woodhead is he puts up pts every week. He's not boom or bust although he did have one monster game last year that pumped his stats.

In comment 13092188 djm said:

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Woodhead is consistently underrated year in year out. He's currently listed as the 25th best RB for most leagues yet in a 1/2 PPR league last season he finished 8th in points scored among RBs and he was even better in full PPR. And what's good about Woodhead is he puts up pts every week. He's not boom or bust although he did have one monster game last year that pumped his stats.

I think there are a few reasons for that. The OC that made him such a focal point is now with the Eagles (see Sproles), many are expecting Gordon to take a big step forward, and the Chargers got their #1WR back so that may mean less targets for DW.

that's my point. Examine the player not the situation. Everywhere Woodhead plays he gets his. Every year, even on the Pats early on.

If Woodhead DOESN'T catch 70 passes or so it will be the exception. HE's gonna get his and Melvin Gordon won't change that. Gordon kinda blows by the way, until proven otherwise.

I'll continue to take Woodhead every year, late. Thanks!

And just realized cbs didn't send me the draft board and stickers. Anyone else have same issue?

as my RB2 in a .5 PPR. He has too much value, they are always behind and he's always open in dump offs.

Then i'd agree. But it isn't the OC as much as it's the QB. Rivers loves Woodhead and he should love Woodhead. The guy's as reliable a scat back as you're gonna find. QBs love that kind of a player.

Woodhead will once again finish top 10 unless he's hurt. IT's a virtual lock.

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He's going in the 4th in a full PPR currently and a little later in a half point. I think that's probably about right. The thing about rankings is you don't see how close they are in value compared to the players that go before. In some cases the projected point difference between 5 players maybe a tenth of a point.

.5 PPR / 12 Team League

Eli Manning
Matt Ryan

AJ Green
Brandin Cooks
Dez Bryant
Alshon Jeffery
Sterling Shepard
Josh Doctson

Carlos Hyde
Giovanni Bernard
Jeremy Hill
Shane Vareen
Darren Sproles

Austin Sefarian-Jenkins
Larry Donnell

Mason Crosby

Minny Defense
NYG Defense


I think the only thing that might save me is being able to play up to 4 WRs and only having to play 2 RBs due to the way our flex spots are set up.

draft last night in a 12 team 0.5 PPR league. 4pts per passing TD. Start 3 WRs and a W/R/T flex also.

I think I might have neglected RB too much but I didn't want to pass up on some good WRs. I ended up with:

QB: Manning/Ryan
RB: Forte/Foster/Riddick/Sproles/Procise
WR: Julio Jones/Mike Evans/Cooper/Michael Floyd/Pryor
TE: Fleener/Eifert
Def: NYG

In comment 13092283 Metnut said:

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draft last night in a 12 team 0.5 PPR league. 4pts per passing TD. Start 3 WRs and a W/R/T flex also. I think I might have neglected RB too much but I didn't want to pass up on some good WRs. I ended up with: QB: Manning/Ryan RB: Forte/Foster/Riddick/Sproles/Procise WR: Julio Jones/Mike Evans/Cooper/Michael Floyd/Pryor TE: Fleener/Eifert Def: NYG

Yeah, I felt the same way for mine. My league sounds just like yours, but we get 6 for passing TDs

In comment 13092236 RicFlair said:

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Even better. I took him late round 5. I possibly could have waited until round 6 but there were 2 teams ahead of me that only had 1 RB at the time so I didn't take any chances. Plus I already had 3 starting WRs at this point and Woodhead was the value pick there.

on Elliot vs Miller? Originally I was trying to avoid Elliot at all costs but he seems to be hitting on all cylinders

are his minor injuries, Morris taking goal line opportunities, and of course, the fact he's a rookie. But now with Romo out he should get at least 300 touches right?

In comment 13092237 leatherneck570 said:

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He's going in the 4th in a full PPR currently and a little later in a half point. I think that's probably about right. The thing about rankings is you don't see how close they are in value compared to the players that go before. In some cases the projected point difference between 5 players maybe a tenth of a point.

and just to follow up on this, certain draft kits will show you the projected totals so you can see where the big drop offs are.

In comment 13092337 leatherneck570 said:

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In comment 13092237 leatherneck570 said: Quote: He's going in the 4th in a full PPR currently and a little later in a half point. I think that's probably about right. The thing about rankings is you don't see how close they are in value compared to the players that go before. In some cases the projected point difference between 5 players maybe a tenth of a point. and just to follow up on this, certain draft kits will show you the projected totals so you can see where the big drop offs are.

Woodhead was 3rd overall RB in PPR leagues last year and 10th in average points per game. To your point he's half a point per game ahead of #11, but almost 3 ppg ahead of #20. and he's shown to be durable enough only playing less than 15 games once the past 6 years.

I like him a lot, but he went before I was able to get him in my PPR league. And he should, he's better than comparable-round backs and even some going before him.

He is going to slow down at some point. I disagree with him being consistent. I see a lot of single digit games from him. So, he will probably still be effective but it looks like they changed up the offense to better fit Gordon and he has looked pretty great so far. I am not down on Woodhead but I do think his numbers decline.

On the other hand, I like Riddick. He is in the same mold as Woodhead but his arrow is pointing up and Abdullah hasn't shown much so I expect Detroit to use Riddick a ton. And you can get Riddick much later in drafts.

being named the Denver starting QB scared you off the receivers (and RBs to an extent)? It's gonna be unpopular opinion on here i gues but I was pretty comfortable with Mark Sanchez as the starter. He was solid in philly the last two years and was good in NY when he had good receivers and runners around him.

Even though Siemian may have been good in preseason I'm still not convinced he's any better than Sanchez and the floor is much lower in my view. I'm not one to question Kubiak's knowledge of the QB competition but does it feel to anyone else that they are going with Siemian because he is more of an "unknown commodity" more than anything else?

In comment 13092450 giantsfan44ab said:

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being named the Denver starting QB scared you off the receivers (and RBs to an extent)? It's gonna be unpopular opinion on here i gues but I was pretty comfortable with Mark Sanchez as the starter. He was solid in philly the last two years and was good in NY when he had good receivers and runners around him. Even though Siemian may have been good in preseason I'm still not convinced he's any better than Sanchez and the floor is much lower in my view. I'm not one to question Kubiak's knowledge of the QB competition but does it feel to anyone else that they are going with Siemian because he is more of an "unknown commodity" more than anything else?

IMO, I like it. I have liked what I have seen from him. Look at the QB play from that team last season. It was pathetic. I doubt Siemian is worst. Thomas still put up 105, 1304, and 4 last year. I see no reason why he will not touch those numbers again. Maybe the catches and yards drop a little but his TDs should increase a lot.

and was happy to take Gronk and the Pats team QB back to back.

Still ended up with a solid roster for PPR. was able to get Landry and Sammy Watkins and in the 3rd and 4th and then Doug Martin in the 5th! Emmanuel Sanders lasted until the 8th and I got Woodhead in the 10th.

Sanchez hasn't played so he made this decision easy. The way I look at it is if you like Sanchez then this only helps you out. If Siemian is great then awesome. If not then Sanchez will play.

Running backs were flying off the boards in the first three rounds. WRs were largely being ignored.

It sucked because I was in the 10 and 11 positions respectively. I really wanted to have somewhat reliable RBs, so I had to reach a bit with my early picks.

In comment 13092453 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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and was happy to take Gronk and the Pats team QB back to back. Still ended up with a solid roster for PPR. was able to get Landry and Sammy Watkins and in the 3rd and 4th and then Doug Martin in the 5th! Emmanuel Sanders lasted until the 8th and I got Woodhead in the 10th.

Yeah, Woodhead in the 10th is awesome. I do not know what you mean by "... the Pats team QB back to back."

In comment 13092452 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 13092450 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: being named the Denver starting QB scared you off the receivers (and RBs to an extent)? It's gonna be unpopular opinion on here i gues but I was pretty comfortable with Mark Sanchez as the starter. He was solid in philly the last two years and was good in NY when he had good receivers and runners around him. Even though Siemian may have been good in preseason I'm still not convinced he's any better than Sanchez and the floor is much lower in my view. I'm not one to question Kubiak's knowledge of the QB competition but does it feel to anyone else that they are going with Siemian because he is more of an "unknown commodity" more than anything else? IMO, I like it. I have liked what I have seen from him. Look at the QB play from that team last season. It was pathetic. I doubt Siemian is worst. Thomas still put up 105, 1304, and 4 last year. I see no reason why he will not touch those numbers again. Maybe the catches and yards drop a little but his TDs should increase a lot.

I was as down on Peyton as anybody last season but if you try projecting his numbers over 16 games he was still on pace to throw for around 4500 yards. Osweiler would've gotten around 4000 as well. I don't think this is the same exact offense they will be stepping into, they lost some linemen. And I think Denver was not only one of the best defenses in history but also were tops in takeaways. The defense lost a ton of talent as well.

Denver really wasn't as run heavy as people make it out to be last year and if there's going to be a change in favor of a run first offense, which many signs point to this year, then I'm probably going to avoid Dtom and Sanders at their current ADP.

In comment 13092455 robbieballs2003 said:

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Sanchez hasn't played so he made this decision easy. The way I look at it is if you like Sanchez then this only helps you out. If Siemian is great then awesome. If not then Sanchez will play.

Hmm I thought I read Denver was intent on keeping only 2 QBs which means Sanchez is out the door. Unless I read that wrong somewhere.

individual QB's in that league. You get the team stats. So even if Brady leaves a game, you accumulate the backup's stats too. If Brady doesn't start or is suspended, you get the replacement's points.

Who do you guys like more.. Cousins or Carr?

I snagged Brady nice and late which I was thrilled about but I have to obviously fill the void the first 4 weeks. I tried to be as objective as possible given that I hate the Redskins and think Cousins is a herb. But I took him anyway. I actually think he will be a pretty good FF QB this year.. I also have Reed so there's that.

Carr went undrafted. I could probably swap them if I really wanted to when the FA pool opens up in a couple days but my gut just felt like Cousins was the better option.

I think I'm gonna snag him in the later rounds.

In comment 13092445 robbieballs2003 said:

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He is going to slow down at some point. I disagree with him being consistent. I see a lot of single digit games from him. So, he will probably still be effective but it looks like they changed up the offense to better fit Gordon and he has looked pretty great so far. I am not down on Woodhead but I do think his numbers decline. On the other hand, I like Riddick. He is in the same mold as Woodhead but his arrow is pointing up and Abdullah hasn't shown much so I expect Detroit to use Riddick a ton. And you can get Riddick much later in drafts.

in PPR I'd rather have Sims than either Woodhead or Riddick and he's going right in between them.

In comment 13092489 arcarsenal said:

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Who do you guys like more.. Cousins or Carr? I snagged Brady nice and late which I was thrilled about but I have to obviously fill the void the first 4 weeks. I tried to be as objective as possible given that I hate the Redskins and think Cousins is a herb. But I took him anyway. I actually think he will be a pretty good FF QB this year.. I also have Reed so there's that. Carr went undrafted. I could probably swap them if I really wanted to when the FA pool opens up in a couple days but my gut just felt like Cousins was the better option.

I don't think there's much of a difference. Just like Carr's value more but not necessarily better for fantasy. I guess you just have to see which one has a better first 4 games in terms of strength of schedule.

would be my target if I drafted Brady. His first four games are very soft.

Yeah I feel like it's pretty even. Maybe I'll swap. My week 1 opponent has Cooper too.

In comment 13092523 arcarsenal said:

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Yeah I feel like it's pretty even. Maybe I'll swap. My week 1 opponent has Cooper too.

This is why I stream. I'd just pick up and play whoever had the more favorable match up that week. I pick up and drop QB's like it's cool.

there was something like 30 different QB's with a top 10 finish last year. May times it is just match up dependent. There is a large group of guys outside the top 3 that I'll just wait and see who is left at the end of the draft and switch between them unless one catches fire (Palmer last year).

In comment 13092489 arcarsenal said:

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Who do you guys like more.. Cousins or Carr? I snagged Brady nice and late which I was thrilled about but I have to obviously fill the void the first 4 weeks. I tried to be as objective as possible given that I hate the Redskins and think Cousins is a herb. But I took him anyway. I actually think he will be a pretty good FF QB this year.. I also have Reed so there's that. Carr went undrafted. I could probably swap them if I really wanted to when the FA pool opens up in a couple days but my gut just felt like Cousins was the better option.

I like Carr more.

12-team ppr, QB's get 6pts per TD (I know I've posted my team 100 times, but it helps with trade eval) - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, 2 flex (so I can start 4 WR's no TE mandatory)

I'm considering it, leaning no, but want others opinions, because it probably makes me better.

QB: Romo (gone), Prescott, Osweiler, RG3
RB: Gurley, Abdullah, Starks, D. Washington, K.Barner
WR: Beckham, Watkins, Landry, Cooper, M. Jones, D. Funchess, M. Thomas, V. Cruz

I trade Amari Cooper for Matthew Stafford and Arian Foster

In comment 13092475 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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individual QB's in that league. You get the team stats. So even if Brady leaves a game, you accumulate the backup's stats too. If Brady doesn't start or is suspended, you get the replacement's points.

Never heard of that before. Interesting.

In comment 13092500 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13092445 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: He is going to slow down at some point. I disagree with him being consistent. I see a lot of single digit games from him. So, he will probably still be effective but it looks like they changed up the offense to better fit Gordon and he has looked pretty great so far. I am not down on Woodhead but I do think his numbers decline. On the other hand, I like Riddick. He is in the same mold as Woodhead but his arrow is pointing up and Abdullah hasn't shown much so I expect Detroit to use Riddick a ton. And you can get Riddick much later in drafts. in PPR I'd rather have Sims than either Woodhead or Riddick and he's going right in between them.

I don't like Sims. He seems sluggish to me but I do agree that he is eating into Martin's snaps.

that does team TE's. That was even better to have the Pats when Hernandez was there!

In comment 13092634 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 13092475 FatMan in Charlotte said: Quote: individual QB's in that league. You get the team stats. So even if Brady leaves a game, you accumulate the backup's stats too. If Brady doesn't start or is suspended, you get the replacement's points. Never heard of that before. Interesting.

they proposed that in my league for this year, but was vetoed for now.

In comment 13092606 pjcas18 said:

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12-team ppr, QB's get 6pts per TD (I know I've posted my team 100 times, but it helps with trade eval) - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, 2 flex (so I can start 4 WR's no TE mandatory) I'm considering it, leaning no, but want others opinions, because it probably makes me better. QB: Romo (gone), Prescott, Osweiler, RG3 RB: Gurley, Abdullah, Starks, D. Washington, K.Barner WR: Beckham, Watkins, Landry, Cooper, M. Jones, D. Funchess, M. Thomas, V. Cruz I trade Amari Cooper for Matthew Stafford and Arian Foster

No and I like Foster this year.

Are you moving him down your ranks? Behind which WRs now?

I had him lower than most but with Prescott I might move him up. I never trusted Romo and thought they would pound the ball a ton limiting Romo's attempts. Now, I think Dez has more value.

Not a bad draft. Seems I may have done something similar, though not too sure on going Julio (just me personally) at #4. Still who knows, he's a WR1 in any league.

On TE, I didn't even bother drafting one until last round. For the last few years I've found guys on waivers like Barnidge. Rolling the dice on that sleeper 49ers TE Vance McDonald for now.

In comment 13092675 robbieballs2003 said:

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I had him lower than most but with Prescott I might move him up. I never trusted Romo and thought they would pound the ball a ton limiting Romo's attempts. Now, I think Dez has more value.

Would you take Dez over any out of:

Nelson
Marshall
Evans
Watkins
Allen
Cooper
Cooks
?

12 team PPR, picked 8th:

QB: Eli Manning (6th)
RB: Gurley (1st), Gordon (5th), Foster (7th), R.Jennings (8th), C.Michael (10th)
WR: Allen Robinson (2nd), Mike Evans (3rd), Amari Cooper (4th), A.Hurns (9th), M.Thomas (11th), T.Benjamin(12th), Cruz (13th)
TE: Vance McDonald (14th)
K: Catanzaro
D: Giants

Typical draft for me outside of not grabbing a QB2, but I figure Eli is Mr. durable and I'll find a guy playing well on waivers. Other than that I never draft a TE till the end and load up on WR/RBs.

In comment 13092963 giantgiantfan said:

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12 team PPR, picked 8th: QB: Eli Manning (6th) RB: Gurley (1st), Gordon (5th), Foster (7th), R.Jennings (8th), C.Michael (10th) WR: Allen Robinson (2nd), Mike Evans (3rd), Amari Cooper (4th), A.Hurns (9th), M.Thomas (11th), T.Benjamin(12th), Cruz (13th) TE: Vance McDonald (14th) K: Catanzaro D: Giants Typical draft for me outside of not grabbing a QB2, but I figure Eli is Mr. durable and I'll find a guy playing well on waivers. Other than that I never draft a TE till the end and load up on WR/RBs.

Who the hell were people drafting that those WRs each went a round later than in a normal league?

In comment 13093011 YAJ2112 said:

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In comment 13092963 giantgiantfan said: Quote: 12 team PPR, picked 8th: QB: Eli Manning (6th) RB: Gurley (1st), Gordon (5th), Foster (7th), R.Jennings (8th), C.Michael (10th) WR: Allen Robinson (2nd), Mike Evans (3rd), Amari Cooper (4th), A.Hurns (9th), M.Thomas (11th), T.Benjamin(12th), Cruz (13th) TE: Vance McDonald (14th) K: Catanzaro D: Giants Typical draft for me outside of not grabbing a QB2, but I figure Eli is Mr. durable and I'll find a guy playing well on waivers. Other than that I never draft a TE till the end and load up on WR/RBs. Who the hell were people drafting that those WRs each went a round later than in a normal league?

I know right, a mix of okay players and fools. Aaron Rodgers went in the first round. Just a $20 buy-in, I'll take the money though. No way any of my first 4 should've been available where I grabbed them.

league. Guess I'll be starting off with Brandon Marshall and Allen Robinson...then waiting 28 picks to see what falls to me there. Any other advice for how to handle? Worst draft position ever!!

In comment 13093165 FranknWeezer said:

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league. Guess I'll be starting off with Brandon Marshall and Allen Robinson...then waiting 28 picks to see what falls to me there. Any other advice for how to handle? Worst draft position ever!!

I'd say I'd rather have 14 then just about any other spot. There's a big drop around 45 and you'll get 4 of those guys. Don't be afraid to start the runs on QB/TE as opposed to missing them.