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What's your biggest Take away from Preseason this year?

gidiefor : Mod : 8/29/2016 9:31 am
Mine is -- that the Giants still don't have a running game
but I'm liking what I'm seeing on Defense
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2016 9:32 am : link
We have a defense.
pain  
gtt350 : 8/29/2016 9:33 am : link
.
Health  
Giants2012 : 8/29/2016 9:36 am : link
(knock on wood), the team isn't injured.

Larry Donnell still can't block.  
Klaatu : 8/29/2016 9:37 am : link
.....
Haven't lost any starters yet for Game 1  
Jimmy Googs : 8/29/2016 9:37 am : link
presuming reports that Pugh and Thompson will be able to go.
Olivier Vernon  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/29/2016 9:37 am : link
has been very encouraging.

A poster mentioned it a few weeks and I'm pretty sure he was trolling but Mcadoo and his handling of the playcalling is kind of weird.

Does he actually think he's getting advantage by keeping it secret? It would be bizarre if he doesnt call the plays IMO.
We are..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/29/2016 9:38 am : link
relatively healthy.

And we seem to at least have upgraded the run defense. Tough to tell with it being preseason, but at least we don't look as bad on D as last year.
That people still take preseason way too seriously  
jcn56 : 8/29/2016 9:38 am : link
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My biggest takeaway from the pre-season thus far?  
Cruzin : 8/29/2016 9:39 am : link

There's one week left.
What jcn said and,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/29/2016 9:40 am : link
that so far, we are healthier now than we've been the last 3 years heading into the season. Knock on wood
Mine  
Percy : 8/29/2016 9:41 am : link
No blocking TE, no worthwhile RB, no replacement for the injured FB, and weakest OL in the league. Truly improved, impressive D overall.
Absolutely, the defense  
BillT : 8/29/2016 9:41 am : link
And the DL especially. This is a group where all 4 starters are excellent run defenders while being able to rush the passer as well. That makes the very average LBs a far better unit. On top of that they're loaded at CB and have enough talent at safety to complete a very good secondary. I also think they've developed enough WR talent to make teams pay for the double-teams OBJ will face on every snap.
League wide - Coaches are playing starters Less  
ZogZerg : 8/29/2016 9:44 am : link
And, fewer "Stars" have been put on IR before the season begins.
Wynn does one great Leonard Marshall imitation  
PatersonPlank : 8/29/2016 9:46 am : link
Thats all I Could think about watching him ramble down the field.
you can't take anything away from pre season  
micky : 8/29/2016 9:54 am : link
as said on here by one's in know. Good or bad. It's just going through the motion with some rest.

Just that they've pretty much, which all that matters, is no significant injuries.
RE: Wynn does one great Leonard Marshall imitation  
Greg from LI : 8/29/2016 9:55 am : link
In comment 13092048 PatersonPlank said:
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Thats all I Could think about watching him ramble down the field.


You mean George Martin.
D would be the biggest  
Jay in Toronto : 8/29/2016 9:57 am : link
and early returns indicate this may be one of our best complete drafts in a long time.
So far  
Giants : 8/29/2016 9:57 am : link
This defense is far better than the last few season. On offense the Giants do have weapons however it may not mean much. Without a OL to block for these RB there may once again not be much of a running game. Same could be said about the passing game. Without time the talented receivers / Eli may not be able to have a impact. Giants need to find away to improve the blocking
We have a crummy OL  
lugnut : 8/29/2016 9:57 am : link
and no blocking TE, which JR deserves a lot of criticism for.

We have a much improved defense, which JR deserves a lot of credit for.

So he averages out to an average GM?

We simply must take an OT in the first round or two next year who can definitely play his position (i.e, left side / right side), barring some amazing FA acquisition. And probably an OG soon after.
Remembering It's Preseason ...  
Trainmaster : 8/29/2016 9:59 am : link
... and to not get too enthused or too discouraged about anything.

Defense, particularly DL, seems much improved.
Early returns on top 2016 draft picks are encouraging.
Cruz will likely have a role in the offense.

The OL, especially the right side, is still a big concern.
The LBs are still most JAGs.
TEs are still JAGS.



Same old preseason Giants  
Kivorka : 8/29/2016 10:04 am : link
as they head into another opening day loss
Biggest takeaway?  
The_Boss : 8/29/2016 10:06 am : link
Opportunity. The 2016 NYG have an incredible opportunity to seize control of this division. Dallas is without Romo until Halloween. Washington has a brutal first place schedule. The Eagles are an unknown but I believe for the fist time in many years, the talent differential has swung back in our favor. The performance of the OL and TE's, in particular, have me concerned but we still have 2 weeks. Figure it out and this can be an 11-5 season. Struggle all year and maybe we finish .500. The ball is in their court.
alive... Alive.... ALIVE....!!!  
x meadowlander : 8/29/2016 10:13 am : link
That is - no major injuries, accidents, incidents aside from a cracked rib, a 1 game kicker suspension and a rotational TE loss.

For a Giant team to get through 3 weeks of preseason with that is REMARKABLE.
Number one - our defense is better, MUCH better  
Johnny5 : 8/29/2016 10:18 am : link
Number two - Our offensive line and TE blocking still smells like number two. After a night of Mexican food and tequila.
That the defense is looking very improved, but that....  
Crispino : 8/29/2016 10:19 am : link
the offense looks to have regressed more than the defense has improved.
Vernon looks worthy of that contract  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/29/2016 10:20 am : link
he's a monster.
We have a solid defense from what it seems.  
bigblue1124 : 8/29/2016 10:21 am : link

Unfortunately they will have to score 3 touchdowns per game for us to win. Kidding but our D is much improved and I have faith on the other side of the ball the light’s will come on.
nothing.  
Les in TO : 8/29/2016 10:21 am : link
absolutely nothing.

preseason means nothing.

the giants have stayed relatively healthy (touch wood).

so my takeaway, is that it's been a success.
Fatman  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/29/2016 10:22 am : link
Why arent you jumping all over the optimistic posts like you do the negative ones?

Both should be equally stupid to you.
RE: Fatman  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/29/2016 10:24 am : link
In comment 13092127 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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Why arent you jumping all over the optimistic posts like you do the negative ones?

Both should be equally stupid to you.

Beckham -- I think you don't get that Fatman likes to abuse stupid -- it has nothing to do with negativity
ODB..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/29/2016 10:25 am : link
I jump on stupid posts, whether they are negative or positive.

Every year, we have some schmucks that will give ridiculous projections for Giants. Matt in Syracuse would get reamed for saying the D would have 70 sacks and Kerry Collins would have 6000 yards passing.

Who was that annoying fuck (EVERY4YEARS) who would create a post a day about how great everything is.

To think I'm only jumping on the negatives and not realizing that I just detest morons would be a really bad mischaracterization.
And you can see..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/29/2016 10:26 am : link
gidie gets it.
That aside from health  
sjnyfan : 8/29/2016 10:28 am : link
the only way I see us missing the postseason this year is the O-line/TE Blocking. I'm very encouraged by everything else. We know what we're getting from the starting O-lineman and there's alot to be desired but what really scares me is if anyone of them gets hurt. None of the other lineman currently on the roster would surprise me if they were cut, including Hart (although unlikely of course). It also wouldn't shock me if some of them have seen their last snaps in NFL uniforms. They're that bad. I'm hoping that majority of our backups are guys that currently are on other rosters. In this case I'm more interested in the devil I don't know.

As for TE I hope Jerrell Adams workload increases. He's our best blocker.
My take is  
joeinpa : 8/29/2016 10:29 am : link
the defense is more talented and has a chance to be competitive.

The offense looks lousy but I keep hearing it doesn t matter because it s preseason. But this team couldn't run the ball last year. It s the same line and it hasn't t been able to run this year preseason or not.
Thank god  
mdthedream : 8/29/2016 10:37 am : link
I don't pay to watch that crap.
Defense better-OL stinks  
jeff57 : 8/29/2016 10:42 am : link
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RE: ...  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/29/2016 10:42 am : link
In comment 13092008 Eric from BBI said:
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We have a defense.


Don't get me excited.
1. No depth  
njm : 8/29/2016 10:52 am : link
look at what losing Pugh has done to the OL

2. Improved DL though I'm not sure about the quality after the Top 3 DE's and Top 2 DT's

3. Top 3 of the 2016 draft class look like keepers.
Football remains a  
oldog : 8/29/2016 10:57 am : link
game for big, skilled, rough, men. We needed and obtained those necessary for our defense, but on the offensive side are woefully short. We have all the small skilled guys we need, and one good QB. Nagging doubts about the team direction and coaching.
I try not to take too much  
djm : 8/29/2016 10:58 am : link
but it's also not to be taken too lightly...

The OL is going to be up and down.
The Offense in general is going to be up and down.
The RBs are once again boring and uninspiring --it's the biggest weakness on this team once again.

The Defense will be a strength.

And finally, the preseason is fucking terrible. I look forward to watching these games every year because we are all starved for football and about 10 minutes into the first game I realize i'd rather watch horseflies fuck.
i watched the NYG Jets game twice  
djm : 8/29/2016 11:02 am : link
and I came away convinced that RBS are leaving too much meat on the bone as usual. That's not to say the OL played well or didn't struggle. It did struggle at times but the RBs on this team never, ever ever ever make something out of nothing. They have no sizzle. No wiggle. They get all theirs based on blocking.

I want an alpha bad ass RB on this team so bad. That's the elixir this offense needs. A hulking RT wouldn't hurt of course...but gimme the talented RB that elevates the OL. Wait till next year in that regard.

if I am the Giants  
djm : 8/29/2016 11:04 am : link
I am force feeding Perkins all the coaching and training he can handle. I want no one other than Jennings and PErkins running the football. Tell Darkwa and his pussy blocking to take a hike and i'd only play Williams if Perkins can't block.

They absolutely have to develop a better RB here.
Perkins is a guy who can get yards without great blocking.  
shelovesnycsports : 8/29/2016 11:08 am : link
Also not once have we seen the run blocking schemes Solari is famous for
Run Zone blocking.
RE: Same old preseason Giants  
EJV79 : 8/29/2016 11:14 am : link
In comment 13092093 Kivorka said:
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as they head into another opening day loss


So we can assume you'll be taking your mid afternoon nap at 4:25 on september 11th and sleep right through the game since you already penciled it in as an L?
I believe the OP  
Kivorka : 8/29/2016 11:40 am : link
Asked what our take was not your take to my post but you go right ahead. I will certainly be watching and expect the worst while hoping for the best. I think you have been napping the past four seasons.
RE: i watched the NYG Jets game twice  
Johnny5 : 8/29/2016 11:41 am : link
In comment 13092221 djm said:
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and I came away convinced that RBS are leaving too much meat on the bone as usual. That's not to say the OL played well or didn't struggle. It did struggle at times but the RBs on this team never, ever ever ever make something out of nothing. They have no sizzle. No wiggle. They get all theirs based on blocking.

I want an alpha bad ass RB on this team so bad. That's the elixir this offense needs. A hulking RT wouldn't hurt of course...but gimme the talented RB that elevates the OL. Wait till next year in that regard.

Hard to disagree here djm. Just take a look at what Forte was doing against our defense. He didn't break off anything huge by any means but he extended broken plays and consistently got something when nothing was there. At least that stood out to me.
RE: ...  
PatersonPlank : 8/29/2016 11:42 am : link
In comment 13092008 Eric from BBI said:
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We have a defense.


This. Its going to be awesome.
Andre Williams  
Dodge : 8/29/2016 11:55 am : link
Looks quicker.
The D looks better but it won't matter much  
nicky43 : 8/29/2016 1:34 pm : link
if they don't pick up two better players for the right side of the OLINE. This o-line is horrible. We have absolutely no running game and not because of the RBs. Eli is rushed on every pass play.

Also not impressed with the play calling. How do you run the ball at 3rd down and 11 (especially when you have seen that you have no running game to speak of)?

If we get 6 wins with this o-Line it will be a miracle.
Please tell me...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/29/2016 1:37 pm : link
there aren't this many fans who have no fucking clue about playcalling in the preseason.

Please give me hope that I'm not spending so much of the same space with complete and absolute fuckheads.

Please?
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