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JOMO25 : 8/29/2016 1:44 pm

QB (2): not much suspense here.

RB (likely 4): Somebody is getting cut. I'll put in order of most likely: Darkwa, Williams, Jennings, Perkins (no reason to cut a cost controlled guy with promise), Vereen (has carved out a clear role, same he thrived in NE)

Prediction: Darkwa versus Williams; Darkwa wins b/c of STs

FB (1): WIll Johnson has the job assuming he's healthy

WR (6): OBJ, Cruz (let's assume he's healthy for now), Shephard all make it. Davis should make it as the only physical WR we have. King, Lewis, Powe, White and perhaps a waiver wire pickup fight it out for 2 spots.

Prediction: King and Lewis make it to go along with the obvious.

TE (3): Tye, Donnell and Adams should probably make up the TE corps, but you wonder if Donnell is at risk of losing his spot to a blocking TE. I wouldn't argue if that happened.

OL (9): Flowers, Pugh, Richburg and Jerry are locks. So is Hart as the primary backup. Newhouse make it which is a sad state of affairs. No other reserve has laid claim to anything. Troubling. I focused on Jake Rodgers - I think he's better than Stingily which is no great endorsement.

DE (4, maybe 5?): OV, JPP are locks. OO is a near lock. Wynn and Okwara play so well in there reserve roles...would have to cut any of our DEs.

DT (4): Hank and Snacks locks. Bromley likely. Millhouse a PS candidate. Neither Nix nor Hughes are inspiring. Could Okwara...a DE get this roster spot? Or can we roll w 5 DEs and 4 DTs in which case Millhouse, Nix and Hughes fight for one spot.

LB (6): Casillas if healthy is a lock. Kennard is very likely. Goodson equally likely. Brinkley probably beats out Shepphard for the starting spot and roster spot with Goodson being the backup. Robinson is pretty encouraging. That's 5. So thats a 3 way fight for one spot: Herzlich, Sheppard and Thomas. I like Thomas here.

CB (6): Locks = DRC, Apple, Jenkins.Likely: Hall. A few ham n' eggers fight it out for two spots.

Safety (4): Collins and Thompson are the starters. A whole lot of uncertainty for the other 2 guys.

Specialists (3) - DeOssie and the K/P all may have Pro Bowl potential. I am not into Rainey making the team as a returner.

That's 53 with 5 DEs. Reasonable so far. Obviously a lot of variables to play out in the next 6 days.

DE typo above

JOMO25 : 8/29/2016 1:49 pm : link

DE (4, maybe 5?): OV, JPP are locks. OO is a near lock. Wynn and Okwara play so well in there reserve roles...would HATE to cut any of our DEs.

You're forgetting Harris

Lionhart28 : 8/29/2016 1:52 pm : link

at WR/RS. Which makes it likely 1 of King/Lewis/Powe.

yep...missed him

JOMO25 : 8/29/2016 1:52 pm : link

I agree with your statement

Unless I missed it

Bill in UT : 8/29/2016 1:53 pm : link

you forgot Dwayne Harris

At LB, I don't see Sheppard not making the team

Lionhart28 : 8/29/2016 1:59 pm : link

In fact, I actually prefer him to Brinkley at MLB. And he has some athleticism to backup at another position.

I agree

JOMO25 : 8/29/2016 2:03 pm : link

Odd that the loser of the MLB starting job likely doesn't land on the roster, but not likely Goodson gets cut

I may be wrong

allstarjim : 8/29/2016 2:04 pm : link

But I think Brinkley will be cut, maybe not today but before week 1. I think Sheppard has outplayed him, and I think you can't carry 3 middle linebackers.

Casillas, Kennard, Sheppard, Goodson, Robinson and Thomas would be my six.

At this point, Darkwa is probably more wishful thinking than reality

Bill L : 8/29/2016 2:07 pm : link

Discounting Darkwa's atrocious ST play this past weekend, I think they largely will prioritize the position and view ST as the bonus or even tiebreaker. I don't see it as being close enough to need a tiebreaker in their view.

I also definitely think we keep 5

Lionhart28 : 8/29/2016 2:09 pm : link

DEs. But if we keep 4, I think it's Wynn who is on the bubble. Okwara already made the team. 4th DT is an interesting one.

At WR, I am betting it's keep King, try to get Lewis and Powe on the practice squad. The problem this preseason has been that the reserve OL is so bad these guys haven't gotten many chances.

AT LB if it's going to be 6

BillT : 8/29/2016 2:11 pm : link

Castillas, Robinson, Kennard, Goodson, Brinkley, Sheppard. With Sheppard as Kennard's backup at SAM. He has the versatility to do that while Robinson can Play the MIKE if needed.

4 DTs, 5 DEs

BillT : 8/29/2016 2:18 pm : link

Hankins and Harrison, Bromley and your choice of the 1-techs Nix (Pat Traina's choice), Hughes or Cudjo (who had the most backup snaps v the Jets.)

I think the 5 DEs are a done deal with both Wynn and Darkwa.

In a perfect world, they'd probably want to put Lewis on the PS.

shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/29/2016 2:18 pm : link

However, it's far from a sure thing that they can sneak him onto the practice squad. I know he doesn't provide the special teams help that a bottom of the depth chart WR needs to, but I was impressed by his athleticism after the catch Saturday night.

I think Williams will make it over Darkwa. While I don't see his offensive fit with this team, I just don't see them pulling the plug this early.

I think Darksa

allstarjim : 8/29/2016 2:21 pm : link

Before the poor performance on Saturday, had very little chance at making the team. It's Jennings, Williams, Vereen and Perkins. Darkwa will likely be in the last round of cuts, and he only makes the team if one of that group goes on IR. I don't think this is a difficult call at all.

Darkwa

AcidTest : 8/29/2016 2:24 pm : link

will probably be cut. Donnell probably would have made the team anyway, but LaCosse being hurt certainly cements his position. We'll get one or two new OL after final cuts. Okwara is on the team. LBs and S are a crapshoot after the obvious candidates. M. Thompson has to have the edge.

RE: Darkwa

BillT : 8/29/2016 2:30 pm : link

In comment 13092759 AcidTest said:

Quote:

At safety, Collins, D. Thompson, Berhe and M. Thompson

Unfortunately Darkwa stood out for all the

10 to 13 : 8/29/2016 3:26 pm : link

wrong reasons this past Saturday. By my eye he was responsible on at least two occasions for taking poor angles on the punt returner and allowing them to turn the corner. Beyond that, nothing to not as a RB and he's a goner.

Vs. Jets....

Ed A. : 8/29/2016 4:17 pm : link

Adams at Safety and Hunter at CB looked good. If they don't make the 53, I hope they can get them to the PS.

i could see us going 5 de ,3 dts

CGiants07 : 8/29/2016 4:53 pm : link

with 1 or 2 on ps to allow extra lb or db

my current roster breakdown guess

CGiants07 : 8/29/2016 4:57 pm : link

is: 2 qb,4 rb, 7 wr(over 9th non deserving ol),4 te/fb,8 ol, 8 dl, 7 lb,10 db, 1p,1k,1 l/s

I think Berhe's made this team

giants#1 : 8/29/2016 5:04 pm : link

maybe not a 'lock' but certainly 'likely' to be the 3rd safety at this point.

If they think Goodson can fill in at one or both OLB positions, they could keep both Sheppard and Brinkley. I'd move on from JTT who can't seem to stay healthy. Especially if they're already keeping Kennard and Robinson who have both consistently battled various injuries throughout their careers.

I doubt they only keep 3 DTs

giants#1 : 8/29/2016 5:08 pm : link

You need 3 active bodies there to rotate guys and if one gets banged up and misses a few games, you'd be forced to have a DE play significant snaps inside. It's one thing having JPP/Owa etc getting snaps on the inside on obvious passing downs, but you don't want them getting significant snaps there in base D.

When you start going

Thinblueline : 8/29/2016 5:56 pm : link

Through the roster you realize your going to have to cut a quality guy or two... With that being said I hope a quality right tackle shakes loose from another roster and WE get him...