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Okwara was the top graded 4-3 DE rookie in preseason by PFF

GiantsBRFan2 : 8/29/2016 2:08 pm
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Top graded rookies this preseason (by position)
4-3 DE: Romeo Okwara, NYG
4-3 OLB: Jeremy Cash, CAR
DT/NT: Darius Latham, OAK


I know some people don't like the PFF grades but nevertheless this is cool.
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There  
AcidTest : 8/29/2016 2:20 pm : link
is no chance he gets cut. Can you imagine a pass rush with OV, JPP, and contributions from OO, Wynn, and Okwara? There's your NASCAR. Plus Hankins and Harrison clogging up the middle. That will really help our LBs and secondary.
We got a good UDFA in Okwara  
dpinzow : 8/29/2016 2:21 pm : link
I have no idea how he wasn't drafted. He produced in college when he got a starting DE job at ND as a junior and definitely has some burst off the edge
Blame Reese  
Giants2012 : 8/29/2016 2:25 pm : link
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RE: Blame Reese  
BillT : 8/29/2016 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13092765 Giants2012 said:
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Asleep at the...
Wish they factored  
Sy'56 : 8/29/2016 2:28 pm : link
what level of players he was up against.
Why would they do that  
B in ALB : 8/29/2016 2:29 pm : link
when people eat this shit up like gospel?
RE: Wish they factored  
Big Blue '56 : 8/29/2016 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13092780 Sy'56 said:
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what level of players he was up against.


True dat, but if a player has the requisite desire and skillset to learn and perform on the next level, wouldn't he have a decent chance to succeed with, for example, more Gym workouts, gaining/losing weight, better coaching at this level, or whatever his college shortcoming might have been?
Sy, B  
Bob in Vt : 8/29/2016 2:35 pm : link
He can only play against the people who lined up against him.

Maybe they will insert him a little earlier in the Patriot game ... but, who knows. Yes, he only played against 3rd stringers (or worse), but he did what was expected of him, and that is to dominate them.

With additional coaching and strength training, he could really be something in a year or two.
Would be nice for them to  
Heisenberg : 8/29/2016 2:35 pm : link
find a good one.
only 21 years old  
Ron Johnson : 8/29/2016 2:38 pm : link
he's probably not done growing yet
RE: Wish they factored  
Mason : 8/29/2016 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13092780 Sy'56 said:
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what level of players he was up against.


To be fair Sy. Spags has rotated him and Odi in with the 1st team a lot. One of the things I noticed this preseason is the amount of rotation on the DL line. Bromley since his return gets in with the 1st team.
Too bad PFF is doing the rating  
Stan in LA : 8/29/2016 3:05 pm : link
Because they are worthless.
RE: Too bad PFF is doing the rating  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/29/2016 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13092872 Stan in LA said:
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Because they are worthless.


Ignorance. NFL teams use their grading systems. It's not gospel but their opinion is a lot better then yours.
many liked him before these ratings came out  
djm : 8/29/2016 3:30 pm : link
so that's nice.
RE: RE: Too bad PFF is doing the rating  
Big Blue '56 : 8/29/2016 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13092904 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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In comment 13092872 Stan in LA said:


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Because they are worthless.



Ignorance. NFL teams use their grading systems. It's not gospel but their opinion is a lot better then yours.


Not ignorance at all..there are some usable stats that NFL teams covet, but mostly they're a pile of shit, imo
It's not like...  
Ed A. : 8/29/2016 4:05 pm : link
Notre Dame is playing Podunk U. I imagine the competition is at least average or above. The kid looks like a keeper to me.
RE: It's not like...  
gmen9892 : 8/29/2016 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13093017 Ed A. said:
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Notre Dame is playing Podunk U. I imagine the competition is at least average or above. The kid looks like a keeper to me.


Not sure he was referring to college ball when talking about competition, but more the NFL caliber players he has been going against during these preseason games.
I root for that kid  
capone : 8/29/2016 5:06 pm : link
he has over come allot in his young life
RE: RE: Too bad PFF is doing the rating  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/29/2016 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13092904 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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In comment 13092872 Stan in LA said:


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Because they are worthless.



Ignorance. NFL teams use their grading systems. It's not gospel but their opinion is a lot better then yours.


No they aren't. They use them for snap counts. Percentage of times in base and sub packages. On both offense and defense.

The only people who use their ratings are lay people who usually don't have any idea what but want to pretend . Just like PFF
He has looked good throuout camp and...  
Bluesbreaker : 8/29/2016 5:38 pm : link
has stood out in the games ...
Can never have enough pass rushers I think he is a lock'to make the roster .
It was Great to see Wynn have a nice game as well ...
The turnaround for this defense could be Monumental ..

Now if we could just shore up the depth on the O-line
and get out of the Blocks quick say 5-2 would be my
prediction . I think if we could attain that go into
the Bye week and come out swinging at the Dirty Birds ..
Love that Okwara is here  
Earl the goat : 8/29/2016 7:24 pm : link
I had him in the 6th round for Giants in my mock
RE: Sy, B  
RetroJint : 8/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
In comment 13092809 Bob in Vt said:
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He can only play against the people who lined up against him.

Maybe they will insert him a little earlier in the Patriot game ... but, who knows. Yes, he only played against 3rd stringers (or worse), but he did what was expected of him, and that is to dominate them.



With additional coaching and strength training, he could really be something in a year or two.

These are good points. He has benefited by playing against excellent college players. He's beating the people that line up against him. That's all he can do. And he's doing it well. This guy is good.
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Ned In Atlanta : 8/29/2016 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13092737 AcidTest said:
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is no chance he gets cut. Can you imagine a pass rush with OV, JPP, and contributions from OO, Wynn, and Okwara? There's your NASCAR. Plus Hankins and Harrison clogging up the middle. That will really help our LBs and secondary.


I certainly hope you're right. Have to hope OV gives us double digit sacks and JPP comes to play. But Wynn is JAG as a pass rusher, OO needs to stay healthy and Okwara is a UDFA.
But preseason is meaningless says BBI  
Jimmy Googs : 8/30/2016 2:20 am : link
so Okawara's grades follow suit...
PFF + preseason  
chris r : 8/30/2016 2:29 am : link
pfffft.
All I'll say is that it's nice to see this kid flash and make the most  
David in LA : 8/30/2016 2:32 am : link
of his opportunities. Okwara is having a good summer, I can't imagine him not making the final 53.
Okwara has looked good  
SGMen : 8/30/2016 2:41 am : link
I think we may have a winner here. Can't wait till see him in real games.
RE: Okwara has looked good  
Ira : 8/30/2016 5:45 am : link
In comment 13093640 SGMen said:
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I think we may have a winner here. Can't wait till see him in real games.


That's the key. When he comes into games it will be against those first string nfl players that he hasn't gone against in pre-season and we'll have a better idea of how good he really is.
RE: RE: Okwara has looked good  
SGMen : 8/30/2016 5:49 am : link
In comment 13093654 Ira said:
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I think we may have a winner here. Can't wait till see him in real games.



That's the key. When he comes into games it will be against those first string nfl players that he hasn't gone against in pre-season and we'll have a better idea of how good he really is.
all the new players and first time starters need to prove themselves.
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