Unfortunately Mr. Peanut has struck again. It is amazing how us fans can see glaring weaknesses in the team, yet here is Jerrah not upgrading the offensive line and the tight end possession. Not to mention the fact the man couldn't pick a decent LB if his life depended on it. In all actuality, the main cogs of our 2 Super Bowl runs were the product of the real great GM we had here for awhile, Ernie Accorsi. Eli Manning, Justin Tuck, Osi, Jacobs, Webster, O'Hara, Snee, Diehl, McKenzie, Seubert, Kiwi. The "2 timers" were almost exclusively pickups by Ernie.
That said, the decision has been made, time to move on.
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But sometimes change is a good thing. Firing Reese would accomplish nothing. How about you let things play out for 2 years and see how McAdoo does?
Its always been Ross, not Reese imo. The bad drafts are what put the Giants in a bad spot and injuries... which could be on TC's program .
Reese is Ross's boss. He is responsible for his performance, or lack thereof.
I loved TC, but I think it was time for him to go. The Beckham fiasco against CAR sealed it for me. He seemed out of touch.
I thought they should have cleaned house and Reese should have gone too, but he's still here, so let's hope it was the right call.
I can see having an issue with the fact that Flowers was given the job without even a whiff of competition. I get that. I probably would have done that trade.
At the same time, what we all said all offseason long was that it wasn't smart to put money or picks into injury players.
You could make the argument that Reese stockpiled cap, until Coughlin was gone.....But Reese has been backing himself into a corner the last few seasons with the decisions he has made....he has gone all or nothing on the the defense this offseason, and left the offense high and dry.....he is hoping that drafted players come through for him on offense, and that this OL will improve on last year's performance.....it's kind of a make or break year for him...if this team does not make the playoffs again this year, for the 7th time in 8 years, with a franchise qb, no less, and after spending all that money in free agency, his job could definitely be on the line....
The offense is offensive at this point, but lets play for real before getting crazy.
Reese did solid work in 2008-2010. The shitty drafting and injury luck in 2011-2012 set the team back.
Yes. I said the same ting in a thread last week. That stupid attempt to try to make the Met Life SB with the infamous SB clock set them back 2 years
Coughlin could not win under those circumstances. But he did bring sense to the 15 season. The excruciating losses were caused mostly by a series of weird events such as ace QB telling the RB not to score, vaunted rookie S dropping manna from heaven, punter grabbing a face mask- I mean you've got to be shitting me. But it was his responsibility as HC. That along with his age finished him. Were Reese of a similar age, he would be gone, too.
The Irishman from Waterloo, NY is still seething. He leaves. 80 million gets spent in a day. But he understands the business. And Reese has been about 75 percent successful in rebuilding the roster. So what else other than to find out if Mara hired himself a good HC?
No doubt TC could still coach and NYG suffered from a talent deficiency for several seasons, but with the coach pushing 70 and a rebuild needed (albeit avoided), there should've been changes made Jan '13, imo.
Shit happens. Fucking deal with it. Assigning blame and asking for guys to be fired simply because "someone has to pay" is just a stupid way to operate. Someone doesn't always have to pay but they need to be held accountable if ownership doesn't like the direction they are headed in. Looks like ownership does in fact like where things are headed. Accept it and move the fuck on and stop letting a preseason game influence too much. It's not the end all be all.
http://beta.deseretnews.com/article/956690/Jaguars-fire-Coughlin-after-3rd-losing-year.html?pg=all
My suspicions were that the 2nd SB afforded TC a longer leash, and lulled our FO into a false sense of security with the roster.
Jon, I don't disagree with the benefit of hindsight but firing a 2 time SB winning coach 2 years removed from a SB? Never happen. If the team tanked it would second guessed up there with the horrendous decisions of the 70s.
But of course the "blame" is not singular and you're on point to cite multiple factors. Hakeem Nicks, for instance, should be a Giant right now in his physical prime as a player. Ditto David Wilson.
No problem.
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But, they chose loyalty to TC and the incumbent players after the 2012 season.
Jon, I don't disagree with the benefit of hindsight but firing a 2 time SB winning coach 2 years removed from a SB? Never happen. If the team tanked it would second guessed up there with the horrendous decisions of the 70s.
This isn't hindsight, I posted it often back at the time it was ongoing. Terps and a few others were also on it.
Also it's become very apparent that Reese acts very much in accordance w the owners and Chris Mara. Owneeship likes playing a bit of a roll
TC was a great coach. Borderline HOF at least but at 70 it s a damn hard job and I think it was time to move on. Shit it's a damn hard job at 55-60. 60-80 hours a week.
Fingers crossed that doesn't happen.
I get grumpy during the offseason.
jmo
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A lesser coach may not have won 6 games with that aroster, which was among the worst in the NFL
agreed. Coughlin got hurt by injuries. And our lack of depth.
Part of that is on him too. He seemed married to Palmieri's S&C program. A few others have shared my suspicions that he had difficulty adjusting to the new CBA. The changes with the new CBA hurt us on 2 fronts. Injuries and development.
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A lesser coach may not have won 6 games with that aroster, which was among the worst in the NFL
agreed. Coughlin got hurt by injuries. And our lack of depth.
Part of that is on him too. He seemed married to Palmieri's S&C program. A few others have shared my suspicions that he had difficulty adjusting to the new CBA. The changes with the new CBA hurt us on 2 fronts. Injuries and development.
I look at situations without emotion attached. The shitstain that was the 2013 season wasn't difficult to foresee.
And yet, we went into the playoffs and won a Super Bowl with Kevin Boss, and then won another Super Bowl with Jake Ballard. Oh, and Michael Boley, too.
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No tightend since Shockey and when we finally get Martellus we let him walk. Had a second opportunity and the Pats take him. No surprise there. Linebacker? Haven't had a quality one since Pierce.
And yet, we went into the playoffs and won a Super Bowl with Kevin Boss, and then won another Super Bowl with Jake Ballard. Oh, and Michael Boley, too.
August 2016