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NFT: Marlins @ Mets - Mon 8/29 este es el momento y lugar, Rafael

sphinx : 8/29/2016 3:38 pm
T.J. Rivera has been demoted to clear the roster spot for Rafael Montero's spot start on Monday against the Marlins. Las Vegas' season ends next Monday, so at a maximum the demotion should last a week - Rubin

We needed another  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 3:57 pm : link
thread?
Did it occur to you  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 4:05 pm : link
that I just didn't see it?

RE: Did it occur to you  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 6:15 pm : link
In comment 13093018 sphinx said:
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that I just didn't see it?


No worries. We all fuck up. But after hours now you still haven't deleted it? I guess you really wanted two huh? I guess I'll delete the other. No biggie.
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ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 6:16 pm : link
Mets Lineup

Jose Reyes – SS
Alejandro De Aza – CF
Yoenis Cespedes – LF
Kelly Johnson – 3B
Curtis Granderson – RF
Wilmer Flores – 2B
James Loney – 1B
Travis d’Arnaud – C
Rafael Montero – RHP
Marlins Lineup

Dee Gordon – 2B
Martin Prado – 3B
Christian Yelich – LF
Marcell Ozuns – CF
J.T. Realmuto – C
Ichiro Suzuki – RF
Xavier Scruggs – 1B
A. Hechavarria – SS
Jose Fernandez – RHP
NO Bruce against Fernandez is pretty telling  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 6:20 pm : link
Let's hope Cespedes is really healthy.
RE: RE: Did it occur to you  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13093224 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13093018 sphinx said: Quote: that I just didn't see it?


No worries. We all fuck up. But after hours now you still haven't deleted it? I guess you really wanted two huh? I guess I'll delete the other. No biggie.

Did you happen to notice that I was posting on "your" thread since I was aware of it, not this one? I guess about 10-14 posts in all with some info about roster moves. And you're taking "your" ball and going home home.



NY pressure or an untimely slump?  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:44 pm : link
Jay Bruce had 6 HR, 14 RBI and 1.221 OPS in 7G right before traded to #Mets. Since? 2 HR, 6 RBI, .515 OPS in 23G. - David Lennon

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sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:51 pm : link
Granderson is 4-for-9 with two doubles and one walk career vs. Fernandez. (Bruce is 2-for-10 with a walk.) - Rubin

The result  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:53 pm : link
of sending TJ down instead of Gsellman ...

Jay Bruce and backup catcher Rene Rivera are the healthy bench players. Cabrera may be available as a PH. Neil Walker probably not. - Rubin

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sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:55 pm : link
Trying to figure out the Mets handling of injuries/roster spots this year makes my head hurt and liver hurt. - Mayer

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sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:57 pm : link
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb - Mayer

why isn't there a Met's thread for today  
madgiantscow009 : 8/29/2016 6:57 pm : link
should I make one?
Rubin posted about 2 hours ago ...  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:59 pm : link
Terry Collins said the presumption was all three banged up position players would be ready on Monday, so that's why the Mets were comfortable demoting T.J. Rivera. Collins only learned about 10 minutes ago that Asdrubal Cabrera and Neil Walker would not be ready

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sphinx : 8/29/2016 7:03 pm : link
Prado (13-37), Yelich (19-47) and Realmuto (12-35) have hit Mets this year. Ozuna (8-45), Hechavarria (7-40) do not. - Ehalt

RE: RE: RE: Did it occur to you  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13093247 sphinx said:
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In comment 13093224 ZGiants98 said:


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In comment 13093018 sphinx said: Quote: that I just didn't see it?


No worries. We all fuck up. But after hours now you still haven't deleted it? I guess you really wanted two huh? I guess I'll delete the other. No biggie.


Did you happen to notice that I was posting on "your" thread since I was aware of it, not this one? I guess about 10-14 posts in all with some info about roster moves. And you're taking "your" ball and going home home.




Honestly no. Just noticed it had been hours and you still hadn't deleted this one. Figured this was more recent so I deleted the other. Im far from the thread police on BBI but we really didn't need two game threads.
RE: why isn't there a Met's thread for today  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13093272 madgiantscow009 said:
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should I make one?


lol.
If Granderson remains a starting OF next season, we are in trouble  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 7:38 pm : link
Time to hang them up, Curtis.
RE: If Granderson remains a starting OF next season, we are in trouble  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13093321 PhiPsi125 said:
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Time to hang them up, Curtis.


He'll be phased out. It's his last year and we have too many outfielders anyway, assuming Ces returns.
Granderson has been putrid - he's leaving men on every single game  
Eric on Li : 8/29/2016 7:40 pm : link
He needs to hit the bench when Conforto gets back up here.
Nice to see Montero hitting  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:43 pm : link
93/94. That's harder than we saw last time.
RE: Granderson has been putrid - he's leaving men on every single game  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13093327 Eric on Li said:
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He needs to hit the bench when Conforto gets back up here.


Won't happen with the superb manager Collins in the dugout.

He'll play the veterans no matter how much they suck.
Definitely feel like Montero has been squeezed a bit these  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 7:44 pm : link
first two innings.
Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
bhill410 : 8/29/2016 7:45 pm : link
Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?
These umpire are a bunch of fucking clowns  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 7:52 pm : link
What a shitshow.
RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13093336 bhill410 said:
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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?


Im hoping it's to get him some regular atbats for a few days but who knows? I guess they will all be here Sep 1.
Really wish we could swap Edgin's 40 man spot  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:56 pm : link
for Sewald. We could really use another interesting arm in the pen in September and Sewald has been good in Vegas all year.
RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13093336 bhill410 said:
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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?

The beat writers are saying that Gsellman is going to the BP and some have indicated they can't understand why TJ sent down. Example ...

Michael Mayer
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb

Montero looking good.  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:03 pm : link
His velocity is up a tick and he's getting his slider and change over for strikes. This is the Montero we were expected to get two years ago.
Well Fernandez has it going now...  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:06 pm : link
Hopefully we can get a hit after he's out. lol
No Met is worse than Loney  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:39 pm : link
Guy should be bagging groceries somewhere. Oh well. Fernandez up to 80 pitches through 4 which is a good sign.
Prado is just a solid baseball player  
figgy2989 : 8/29/2016 8:44 pm : link
We really need to get to the Marlins pen.
Where  
Metnut : 8/29/2016 8:48 pm : link
was that pitch? Montero getting squeezed here
Even Yelich  
Stufftherun : 8/29/2016 8:48 pm : link
was waiting to get rung up! Just awful!
HP ump has been squeezing Montero all night  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 8:48 pm : link
while Fernandez gets the same pitches called as strikes.
RE: Where  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:49 pm : link
In comment 13093419 Metnut said:
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was that pitch? Montero getting squeezed here


Montero squeezed all night. Fucking umps.
Im sure that's it for Montero  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:50 pm : link
Got to be happy with 5 scoreless. Too many walks but some of those borderline strikes were questionable to say the least.
Gutsy game from Rafael  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 8:53 pm : link
Walked quite a few but wasn't really wild. Seemed to not have lost command. Ump gave him zilch on the inside corner. He'll get another start, I assume.

Getting Fernandez out at 5 innings would be a real success.  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:55 pm : link
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We are desperately trying to win games and we are using  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 8:56 pm : link
pitchers as pinch hitters in the 5th inning.

I swear this team is run by clowns.
RE: We are desperately trying to win games and we are using  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13093434 PhiPsi125 said:
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pitchers as pinch hitters in the 5th inning.

I swear this team is run by clowns.

Probably see Noah later on

RE: RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
schabadoo : 8/29/2016 9:06 pm : link
In comment 13093356 sphinx said:
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In comment 13093336 bhill410 said:


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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?


The beat writers are saying that Gsellman is going to the BP and some have indicated they can't understand why TJ sent down. Example ...

Michael Mayer
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb


And now you have a pitcher pinch hit. Sandy hamstringing the manager again. I thought he was the adult in the room.
RE: RE: RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13093439 schabadoo said:
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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?


The beat writers are saying that Gsellman is going to the BP and some have indicated they can't understand why TJ sent down. Example ...

Michael Mayer
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb




And now you have a pitcher pinch hit. Sandy hamstringing the manager again. I thought he was the adult in the room.
Most the guys on the bench are day to day. Do you really want to lose Walker or Cabrera for 15 days? I know I dont. And do you think he should save Bruce for the late innings in a tie game or use him in the fifth?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
schabadoo : 8/29/2016 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13093445 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13093356 sphinx said:


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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?


The beat writers are saying that Gsellman is going to the BP and some have indicated they can't understand why TJ sent down. Example ...

Michael Mayer
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb




And now you have a pitcher pinch hit. Sandy hamstringing the manager again. I thought he was the adult in the room.

Most the guys on the bench are day to day. Do you really want to lose Walker or Cabrera for 15 days? I know I dont. And do you think he should save Bruce for the late innings in a tie game or use him in the fifth?


What?

The discussion was about sending down a viable bat instead of a pitcher that can't pitch right now and who would be recalled in two days.
If you're ONLY talking about  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:43 pm : link
T.J. Rivera I guess that's fine but supposedly they feel Gsellman can move to the pen pretty quick. As for the rest of the bench, there wasn't a lot of options.
God damn it  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:47 pm : link
Oh well.
Still have 3 outs  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 9:52 pm : link
Who's going to be tonight's hero?
*6 outs  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 9:54 pm : link
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Nice start Jose  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 9:54 pm : link
!
Come on Reyes.  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:54 pm : link
Steal 3B!
Can they execute  
Stufftherun : 8/29/2016 9:55 pm : link
when they need it most?!
MOAR INJURIES  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:58 pm : link
WHOOO!!!
Holy crap  
spike : 8/29/2016 9:58 pm : link
I hope Jose is alright. We cant lose him
Gotta slide feet first!  
Stufftherun : 8/29/2016 9:58 pm : link
All knotted up.
Tie game  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 9:59 pm : link
boys.

It's a new game.

Looks like a shoulder
Thats a dirty play  
spike : 8/29/2016 9:59 pm : link
By Ramos

Reyes shouldnt have gone head first
So who plays 3rd  
bhill410 : 8/29/2016 10:00 pm : link
If Reyes is hurt like it looks like he may be
Come on Flo  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:05 pm : link
Need more magic from Wilmer
When will these players ever learn to slide feet first?  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 10:06 pm : link
Shitty play by Ramos.
Walk off time!  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:08 pm : link
Lets
Go
Familia!
Two strikes  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 10:10 pm : link
called on Flores that he didn't give to Montero all night.

So who gets the gamer  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 10:18 pm : link
Loney or Bruce?

Im calling  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:19 pm : link
Bruce
How did  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:21 pm : link
TDA turn into a singles hitter?
Bruce can make up  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 10:23 pm : link
for some of his bad play with this at bat
RE: How did  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 10:24 pm : link
In comment 13093516 spike said:
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TDA turn into a singles hitter?


Wait...when did TdA turn into a hitter?
Is Neil Walker available  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:35 pm : link
?
RE: Is Neil Walker available  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13093534 spike said:
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Seems like no. If he could bat he would have been up instead of Rivera?Bruce, I assume

This is the game  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:42 pm : link
Cespedes needs to win this. Reyes came close though
HP ump really sucks for the mets tonight  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 10:42 pm : link
Jesus
There YO go!  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 10:42 pm : link
!
RE: This is the game  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13093539 spike said:
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Cespedes needs to win this. Reyes came close though


Nice
Could feel that  
Stufftherun : 8/29/2016 10:43 pm : link
one coming!
Feels like it's the first walk off we've had all season.  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 10:43 pm : link
Finally...some good vibes.
Hell yeah!  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:44 pm : link
Pennant fever!!
Grandy up next  
schabadoo : 8/29/2016 10:44 pm : link
Why throw him a pitch?
Imagine this organization without Cespedes  
Eric on Li : 8/29/2016 10:44 pm : link
hard to believe that he's been even more valuable this year than he was last year.
Man oh man  
RodneyHamp : 8/29/2016 10:46 pm : link
Please let this team get raging hot
We beat the Marlins on a Fernandez start  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:47 pm : link
Great way to start a series. Now we gotta beat up on the rest of Floridas starters
What did I tell you boys!!  
Uncle Frank : 8/29/2016 10:47 pm : link
Wooooowwww BBBuuuuuddddyyyy!
Don't let Cespedes leave Citi tonight  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 10:47 pm : link
without signing an extension. Do. It. Tonight.

Cards win  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 10:48 pm : link
.

The Cardinals have a tough schedule  
spike : 8/29/2016 10:53 pm : link
With plenty of teams trying to take them down.. I dont see them taking the WC2
Presented without comment  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/29/2016 11:39 pm : link
Cespedes is becoming Piazza like  
chris r : 8/30/2016 12:03 am : link
a must keep.
RE: The Cardinals have a tough schedule  
Vanzetti : 8/30/2016 3:13 am : link
In comment 13093558 spike said:
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With plenty of teams trying to take them down.. I dont see them taking the WC2


I'm more worried about the Pirates
Cespedes IS the Mets. They have a meek personality without him.  
Victor in CT : 8/30/2016 8:29 am : link
He is their mojo, the straw that stirs the drink. They HAVE to keep him here.
Great win  
Metnut : 8/30/2016 9:32 am : link
last night. Monetro has major league stuff and will have an MLB career if he can get his control back. His changeup is a really nice pitch that can get big league hitters out. Cespedes HR feels like the first really good moment we've had in a while.

Mets should send Montero down and bring Conforto up. Granderson and Bruce (especially Bruce) aren't contributing much. Conforto has the highest upside of the 3 and should have his confidence back after the AAA stint. Let's get our best players on the field.

Randomly, I thought Flores had some good ABs last night against right handed pitching.
Flores has played his best over the last month or so - he should be 1B  
Eric on Li : 8/30/2016 9:35 am : link
when the rest of the IF gets healthy. Agree on Conforto, he should be up and given the chance to play every day again (in CF I suppose?).
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arcarsenal : 8/30/2016 9:44 am : link
Cespedes is the heart and soul of the Mets now. They have to keep him. I don't know if I can watch this team next year if they let him go.. I will be so disgusted.

How good has Reyes been? I really missed him. It's so fun to watch #7 sparking the team again like he never left.

Huge getting that W with that pitching matchup. Rafa walked too many batters but can't argue with the results. Very encouraging outing for him.
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JayBinQueens : 8/30/2016 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13093814 arcarsenal said:
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How good has Reyes been? I really missed him. It's so fun to watch #7 sparking the team again like he never left.



I think Reyes just plays at a different level with the spotlight in NY. He hasn't looked this good in a while
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