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NFT: Marlins @ Mets - Mon 8/29 este es el momento y lugar, Rafael

sphinx : 8/29/2016 3:38 pm
T.J. Rivera has been demoted to clear the roster spot for Rafael Montero's spot start on Monday against the Marlins. Las Vegas' season ends next Monday, so at a maximum the demotion should last a week - Rubin

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We needed another  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 3:57 pm : link
thread?
Did it occur to you  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 4:05 pm : link
that I just didn't see it?

RE: Did it occur to you  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 6:15 pm : link
In comment 13093018 sphinx said:
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that I just didn't see it?


No worries. We all fuck up. But after hours now you still haven't deleted it? I guess you really wanted two huh? I guess I'll delete the other. No biggie.
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ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 6:16 pm : link
Mets Lineup

Jose Reyes – SS
Alejandro De Aza – CF
Yoenis Cespedes – LF
Kelly Johnson – 3B
Curtis Granderson – RF
Wilmer Flores – 2B
James Loney – 1B
Travis d’Arnaud – C
Rafael Montero – RHP
Marlins Lineup

Dee Gordon – 2B
Martin Prado – 3B
Christian Yelich – LF
Marcell Ozuns – CF
J.T. Realmuto – C
Ichiro Suzuki – RF
Xavier Scruggs – 1B
A. Hechavarria – SS
Jose Fernandez – RHP
NO Bruce against Fernandez is pretty telling  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 6:20 pm : link
Let's hope Cespedes is really healthy.
RE: RE: Did it occur to you  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13093224 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13093018 sphinx said: Quote: that I just didn't see it?


No worries. We all fuck up. But after hours now you still haven't deleted it? I guess you really wanted two huh? I guess I'll delete the other. No biggie.

Did you happen to notice that I was posting on "your" thread since I was aware of it, not this one? I guess about 10-14 posts in all with some info about roster moves. And you're taking "your" ball and going home home.



NY pressure or an untimely slump?  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:44 pm : link
Jay Bruce had 6 HR, 14 RBI and 1.221 OPS in 7G right before traded to #Mets. Since? 2 HR, 6 RBI, .515 OPS in 23G. - David Lennon

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sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:51 pm : link
Granderson is 4-for-9 with two doubles and one walk career vs. Fernandez. (Bruce is 2-for-10 with a walk.) - Rubin

The result  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:53 pm : link
of sending TJ down instead of Gsellman ...

Jay Bruce and backup catcher Rene Rivera are the healthy bench players. Cabrera may be available as a PH. Neil Walker probably not. - Rubin

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sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:55 pm : link
Trying to figure out the Mets handling of injuries/roster spots this year makes my head hurt and liver hurt. - Mayer

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sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:57 pm : link
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb - Mayer

why isn't there a Met's thread for today  
madgiantscow009 : 8/29/2016 6:57 pm : link
should I make one?
Rubin posted about 2 hours ago ...  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 6:59 pm : link
Terry Collins said the presumption was all three banged up position players would be ready on Monday, so that's why the Mets were comfortable demoting T.J. Rivera. Collins only learned about 10 minutes ago that Asdrubal Cabrera and Neil Walker would not be ready

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sphinx : 8/29/2016 7:03 pm : link
Prado (13-37), Yelich (19-47) and Realmuto (12-35) have hit Mets this year. Ozuna (8-45), Hechavarria (7-40) do not. - Ehalt

RE: RE: RE: Did it occur to you  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13093247 sphinx said:
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In comment 13093224 ZGiants98 said:


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In comment 13093018 sphinx said: Quote: that I just didn't see it?


No worries. We all fuck up. But after hours now you still haven't deleted it? I guess you really wanted two huh? I guess I'll delete the other. No biggie.


Did you happen to notice that I was posting on "your" thread since I was aware of it, not this one? I guess about 10-14 posts in all with some info about roster moves. And you're taking "your" ball and going home home.




Honestly no. Just noticed it had been hours and you still hadn't deleted this one. Figured this was more recent so I deleted the other. Im far from the thread police on BBI but we really didn't need two game threads.
RE: why isn't there a Met's thread for today  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13093272 madgiantscow009 said:
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should I make one?


lol.
If Granderson remains a starting OF next season, we are in trouble  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 7:38 pm : link
Time to hang them up, Curtis.
RE: If Granderson remains a starting OF next season, we are in trouble  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13093321 PhiPsi125 said:
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Time to hang them up, Curtis.


He'll be phased out. It's his last year and we have too many outfielders anyway, assuming Ces returns.
Granderson has been putrid - he's leaving men on every single game  
Eric on Li : 8/29/2016 7:40 pm : link
He needs to hit the bench when Conforto gets back up here.
Nice to see Montero hitting  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:43 pm : link
93/94. That's harder than we saw last time.
RE: Granderson has been putrid - he's leaving men on every single game  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13093327 Eric on Li said:
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He needs to hit the bench when Conforto gets back up here.


Won't happen with the superb manager Collins in the dugout.

He'll play the veterans no matter how much they suck.
Definitely feel like Montero has been squeezed a bit these  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 7:44 pm : link
first two innings.
Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
bhill410 : 8/29/2016 7:45 pm : link
Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?
These umpire are a bunch of fucking clowns  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 7:52 pm : link
What a shitshow.
RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13093336 bhill410 said:
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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?


Im hoping it's to get him some regular atbats for a few days but who knows? I guess they will all be here Sep 1.
Really wish we could swap Edgin's 40 man spot  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 7:56 pm : link
for Sewald. We could really use another interesting arm in the pen in September and Sewald has been good in Vegas all year.
RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13093336 bhill410 said:
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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?

The beat writers are saying that Gsellman is going to the BP and some have indicated they can't understand why TJ sent down. Example ...

Michael Mayer
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb

Montero looking good.  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:03 pm : link
His velocity is up a tick and he's getting his slider and change over for strikes. This is the Montero we were expected to get two years ago.
Well Fernandez has it going now...  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:06 pm : link
Hopefully we can get a hit after he's out. lol
No Met is worse than Loney  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:39 pm : link
Guy should be bagging groceries somewhere. Oh well. Fernandez up to 80 pitches through 4 which is a good sign.
Prado is just a solid baseball player  
figgy2989 : 8/29/2016 8:44 pm : link
We really need to get to the Marlins pen.
Where  
Metnut : 8/29/2016 8:48 pm : link
was that pitch? Montero getting squeezed here
Even Yelich  
Stufftherun : 8/29/2016 8:48 pm : link
was waiting to get rung up! Just awful!
HP ump has been squeezing Montero all night  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 8:48 pm : link
while Fernandez gets the same pitches called as strikes.
RE: Where  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:49 pm : link
In comment 13093419 Metnut said:
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was that pitch? Montero getting squeezed here


Montero squeezed all night. Fucking umps.
Im sure that's it for Montero  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:50 pm : link
Got to be happy with 5 scoreless. Too many walks but some of those borderline strikes were questionable to say the least.
Gutsy game from Rafael  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 8:53 pm : link
Walked quite a few but wasn't really wild. Seemed to not have lost command. Ump gave him zilch on the inside corner. He'll get another start, I assume.

Getting Fernandez out at 5 innings would be a real success.  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 8:55 pm : link
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We are desperately trying to win games and we are using  
PhiPsi125 : 8/29/2016 8:56 pm : link
pitchers as pinch hitters in the 5th inning.

I swear this team is run by clowns.
RE: We are desperately trying to win games and we are using  
sphinx : 8/29/2016 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13093434 PhiPsi125 said:
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pitchers as pinch hitters in the 5th inning.

I swear this team is run by clowns.

Probably see Noah later on

RE: RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
schabadoo : 8/29/2016 9:06 pm : link
In comment 13093356 sphinx said:
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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?


The beat writers are saying that Gsellman is going to the BP and some have indicated they can't understand why TJ sent down. Example ...

Michael Mayer
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb


And now you have a pitcher pinch hit. Sandy hamstringing the manager again. I thought he was the adult in the room.
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ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13093439 schabadoo said:
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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?


The beat writers are saying that Gsellman is going to the BP and some have indicated they can't understand why TJ sent down. Example ...

Michael Mayer
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb




And now you have a pitcher pinch hit. Sandy hamstringing the manager again. I thought he was the adult in the room.
Most the guys on the bench are day to day. Do you really want to lose Walker or Cabrera for 15 days? I know I dont. And do you think he should save Bruce for the late innings in a tie game or use him in the fifth?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Am I correct in saying that gsellmen could have  
schabadoo : 8/29/2016 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13093445 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13093356 sphinx said:


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Been called up easily in time for next start after rosters expand? What rationale could they have to keep him here instead of Rivera? Sandy should be smarter than that so I must be missing something. Does the rule about not being able to call someone up after demotion except for injury apply even when the rosters expand?


The beat writers are saying that Gsellman is going to the BP and some have indicated they can't understand why TJ sent down. Example ...

Michael Mayer
Sending Rivera down instead of a guy who won't be available to pitch for a few days was dumb




And now you have a pitcher pinch hit. Sandy hamstringing the manager again. I thought he was the adult in the room.

Most the guys on the bench are day to day. Do you really want to lose Walker or Cabrera for 15 days? I know I dont. And do you think he should save Bruce for the late innings in a tie game or use him in the fifth?


What?

The discussion was about sending down a viable bat instead of a pitcher that can't pitch right now and who would be recalled in two days.
If you're ONLY talking about  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:43 pm : link
T.J. Rivera I guess that's fine but supposedly they feel Gsellman can move to the pen pretty quick. As for the rest of the bench, there wasn't a lot of options.
God damn it  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:47 pm : link
Oh well.
Still have 3 outs  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 9:52 pm : link
Who's going to be tonight's hero?
*6 outs  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 9:54 pm : link
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Nice start Jose  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2016 9:54 pm : link
!
Come on Reyes.  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2016 9:54 pm : link
Steal 3B!
Can they execute  
Stufftherun : 8/29/2016 9:55 pm : link
when they need it most?!
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