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NFT: Mets Minors 8/30/2016

DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 9:40 am
• Mets and Yankees both will have a scout/scouts at today’s Tebow workout
- Rubin says the Mets will not be calling up Rosario or Smith after 9/1

AAA- Verrett
AA TBD
A+ Flexen
A Canelon
BK TBD
Kingsport Simon
GCL TBD


AAA
Nimmo 2-4, HR, BB (.410 with a homer 6 walks over his last 10, Viva Las Vegas! Ugh)
Cecchini 3-4, 2b (Ditto)
Conforto 1-5, K (Dropping his average to a paltry .415)
Plawecki 1-4
Sewald 1 inning 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 1 k

AA
Stuart 0-3, 2 k’s
Evans 1-4
Rosario 0-3, BB, K
Smith 1-3, BB
McGowan 3 inning 3 hits 2 runs 1 walk 1 K

A+ (Continuation of a game suspended on 6/30 due to a power outage, following the 6th inning when the game was restarted-)
Urena 0-2, 2 k’s
Thompson 1-1
Kaczmarski 0-1
Secrest 2 perfect

A+2
Kaczmarski 1-4 (Last 20 games .227/.301/.280)
Guillorme 2-4, K
Thompson 1-4, 2b
Nido 2-4
Barbosa (non-prospect, 29 years old in November) but worth mentioning 7 no-hit innings with 11 k’s

BK
Cone 1-5, 2b
Paez 2-4, HR, BB
Lindsay 1-4, BB, K
Woodmansee 0-4, 3 k’s (K-rate is absolutely awful wow)
Tiberi 1-3, HR, BB
Caprio 0-3, BB, 2 k’s (1-21 to begin his BK career, he does have a solid 5/6 BB/K however)
Dimino 2-4, K (continues to hit)
Cornish 3 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 6 k’s (Cornish has gone flat out beast mode. Last 3 appearances 8 innings 16 k’s, he was my Sewald pick for this class and he’s making me look pretty good so far. Do it!)

Kingsport
Cespedes 4-4, 3b (Officially ON FIRE. Last 10 games hitting .463, 7 for his last 9. Over his last 10 games 3 3 hit games, 2 4 hit games. August OPS up to .885)
Wolf 2-4, K
Walter 1-3, K
JMM 1-4, K
Humphreys 7 innings 4 hits 0 runs 0 walks 7 k’s (Last 3 starts 20 innings 13 hits 3 er 2 walks 26 k’s, sleeper for next season for me)
B. Taylor 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 4 k’s (Last 2 outings 4 innings 1 hit 0 walks 8 k’s, previous major issues with walks so that’s a good sign small sample size and all. Gotta figure he’s in the Cyclones rotation next season)

GCL1
Sanchez 3-4, 2b
Lagrange 1-3
Hernandez 1-3
Geraldo 7 innings 7 hits 1 run 1 walk 6 k’s

GCL2
Sanchez 0-3
Cleveland 1 inning 2 hits 2 runs 0 walks 0 k’s (Has been truly awful to begin his career. Major project)
Can we please not take Bruce's option  
Tanker20 : 8/30/2016 10:33 am : link
and start next year with an OF of Cespedes, Conforto, Nimmo, Lagares, and Granderson?

Herrerra is a sunk cost as this point.
RE: Can we please not take Bruce's option  
Metnut : 8/30/2016 10:59 am : link
In comment 13093887 Tanker20 said:
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and start next year with an OF of Cespedes, Conforto, Nimmo, Lagares, and Granderson?

Herrerra is a sunk cost as this point.


Agree 100%. Not happy about losing Herrera, but with Reyes/Cabrera's recent emergence, Flores looking like a super sub at worst, and Cecchini still in the mix, not to mention David Wright's corpse, we have enough IFers that Herrera isn't a disaster to lose. Just please don't pick up the option so Terry thinks he has to play Granderson and Bruce most of the time because they are making so much money.
Nimmo is having an incredible season  
ZGiants98 : 8/30/2016 11:08 am : link
if you break down his season into splits its actually insane how consistent he's been. He has an almost identical average against lefties and righties. Month to month has been nearly identical overall.

Nice to see Cheech get a handle on his errors. He still has one every now and then(and Im not excusing his overall numbers) but he seems to have corrected his issue over the last month somewhat.

I'd like to add Sewald to the 40 man somehow. I feel we could really use him in September. (Edgin's spot?) If we are going to roll our eyes over Cheech, Nimmo, and Conforto playing out of their minds in Vegas, then we should assume Sewald is the future greatest closer in the history of baseball. lol.
Cecchini  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 11:12 am : link
errorless in 12 straight. I fucking hate the fact we are "trapped" in LV though. So hard to judge the hitters.
what happened to  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2016 11:13 am : link
Gimenez?
RE: Cecchini  
ZGiants98 : 8/30/2016 11:15 am : link
In comment 13093959 DanMetroMan said:
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errorless in 12 straight. I fucking hate the fact we are "trapped" in LV though. So hard to judge the hitters.


I agree. It sucks. Nothing we can do. I still think Cheech and Nimmo's approach will translate to the majors. Big power numbers would scare me more in Vegas I think but who knows.
Sewald  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 11:17 am : link
has been solid but talk about overstating his case. He has a 4.10 FIP, 3.45 era. His FIP is 3rd on his own team behind Smoker and Bradford.

As for Cecchini, 100% not a knock but to give you an idea of how stupid LV is, league adjusted his numbers are actually a little worse than last season.

wRC+ 2015 139
wRC+ 2016 127
wRC+ 2015 .375
wRC+ 2016 .376
ISO 2015 .125
ISO 2015 .124

So the perception is he's having some sort of huge breakout when the truth is he's been consistently solid the past 2 seasons but that 2016 is basically identical (almost crazily so). LV is a bummer.
RE: what happened to  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 11:18 am : link
In comment 13093961 pjcas18 said:
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Gimenez?


DSL season ended.
The  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 11:19 am : link
Mets should be sending gift baskets to Syracruse hoping to pry them away once the Nats deal is up. Sadly most of the "good" locations have longstanding relationships. Something we used to have with Tidewater/Norfolk.
RE: Sewald  
ZGiants98 : 8/30/2016 11:26 am : link
In comment 13093968 DanMetroMan said:
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has been solid but talk about overstating his case. He has a 4.10 FIP, 3.45 era. His FIP is 3rd on his own team behind Smoker and Bradford.

As for Cecchini, 100% not a knock but to give you an idea of how stupid LV is, league adjusted his numbers are actually a little worse than last season.

wRC+ 2015 139
wRC+ 2016 127
wRC+ 2015 .375
wRC+ 2016 .376
ISO 2015 .125
ISO 2015 .124

So the perception is he's having some sort of huge breakout when the truth is he's been consistently solid the past 2 seasons but that 2016 is basically identical (almost crazily so). LV is a bummer.


I was being a little over the top obviously but I still think he would be a nice arm to add down the stretch. As we are seeing with many of our pitchers like Gsellman, Lugo, even Smoker after a rough debut... they sometimes have even an "easier" time in the majors.
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DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 11:27 am : link
Greg: One of the big bugaboos for Dom Smith until now (aside from lack of power) had been that he simply did not walk enough. That being said, he now has 11 walks in his last 11 games. This all aside from the fact that he’s mashing everything in sight. How excited should we be getting for him? Has he finally reached his potential?
Klaw: The amount of stat-line scouting on Smith the last few years was just comical. He was a young HS senior with a great swing, great feel to hit, and plus raw power. The Mets put him right into full-season ball, and he didn’t put up huge numbers right away, so the fake-scouting started – but he was never overmatched, never really struggled, always made contact, and if you saw him or talked to folks who did you knew he was working on going the other way because his pull power wasn’t resulting in HR. I could rant for a while but I’ve always thought he was at least an above average overall player at 1b and I still think that’s what he’ll be
,  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 11:28 am : link
Eric: With Duda likely to be non-tendered, do you think Smith will be ready for 1B for the Mets next year?
Klaw: I think that would be aggressive


Will: Brando Nimmo is scorching lefties at Triple A this year. Now we’re talking about 116 plate appearances in Vegas, but have you heard any reports that this aspect of his game has improved?
Klaw: It’s Vegas. Someone pointed out to me on Twitter that Nimmo’s AAA stats were better than Seager’s. The ballpark destroys any value in the stats


Michael Conforto: Why am I in Las Vegas? And why would you put me at first base or centerfield?
Klaw: You’re in Vegas because the Mets’ manager hates youth so much he watches the Little League World Series and boos the television.
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DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 11:37 am : link
@keithlaw in his most recent chat suggested @dez_lindsay as "star" ceiling potential. Hopefully next season hammy healthy = SB's #Mets
RE: Cecchini  
sshin05 : 8/30/2016 11:37 am : link
In comment 13093959 DanMetroMan said:
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errorless in 12 straight. I fucking hate the fact we are "trapped" in LV though. So hard to judge the hitters.


+1
LOL  
Metnut : 8/30/2016 11:42 am : link
"Michael Conforto: Why am I in Las Vegas? And why would you put me at first base or centerfield?
Klaw: You’re in Vegas because the Mets’ manager hates youth so much he watches the Little League World Series and boos the television."

HAHAHAHA
I still have serious  
ZGiants98 : 8/30/2016 1:10 pm : link
doubts the Mets will non-tender Duda. Seems like the media is running with this for some reason. No idea why.
On  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 1:19 pm : link
paper the 3 spots the Mets should aim for after 2 more in LV are Syracuse, Nashville and Durham. Hard to identify another clear, good option. Nashville stands out as potentially the best/most realistic.
Law on Dom Smith  
Shecky : 8/30/2016 1:39 pm : link
I could be confusin people, but wasn't Law pretty loud on his Dom criticism over the years?
RE: Law on Dom Smith  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13094229 Shecky said:
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I could be confusin people, but wasn't Law pretty loud on his Dom criticism over the years?


Shecky,
No, Law has consistently been the "high man" on Smith. He's a big fan and has been.
Law  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 1:44 pm : link
ranked Smith his #1 Mets prospect before the season, #4 before last season.

"th ESPN's Keith Law's recent release of his annual rankings of farm systems in which the Mets placed 16th, baseball fans know the season is around the corner. Today, the season feels just a little closer as Law announced his list of top 100 minor league prospects at ESPN (Insider subscription required). His rankings feature four Mets prospects, headlined by Dominic Smith at 29th overall, whom he tabs as "one of the best pure hitters in the minors."

Law added that he believes Smith is a safe bet to be a .300 hitter with 20-homer upside with sparkling defense at first base. However, Law says his upside may only be reached if Smith "keeps his uniform buttons from bursting," as Law points out Smith could be skipping basic conditioning, resulting in sloppy defense in the Arizona Fall League. Smith was the 11th overall pick by the Mets in 2013. He is still just 20 years old."
RE: On  
Metnut : 8/30/2016 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13094205 DanMetroMan said:
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paper the 3 spots the Mets should aim for after 2 more in LV are Syracuse, Nashville and Durham. Hard to identify another clear, good option. Nashville stands out as potentially the best/most realistic.


Cuse would be great from an NY point of view and maybe building the fanbase a bit upstate. Helps that my inlaws live in Cuse also so I'd be able to see some games.

Nashville is the largest of the cities and a great place to take a trip to. Fun place to have a AAA team without the ridiculousness of Las Vegas. Durham sort of bring (just IMO) but would still be an improvement.
RE: RE: On  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13094258 Metnut said:
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In comment 13094205 DanMetroMan said:


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paper the 3 spots the Mets should aim for after 2 more in LV are Syracuse, Nashville and Durham. Hard to identify another clear, good option. Nashville stands out as potentially the best/most realistic.



Cuse would be great from an NY point of view and maybe building the fanbase a bit upstate. Helps that my inlaws live in Cuse also so I'd be able to see some games.

Nashville is the largest of the cities and a great place to take a trip to. Fun place to have a AAA team without the ridiculousness of Las Vegas. Durham sort of bring (just IMO) but would still be an improvement.


The reason I think Nashville is the best case is mostly because they are currently affiliated with Oakland which is an odd fit geographically so it's possible both the A's and Nashville agree to part. That said, even the A's probably prefer Nashville to Las Vegas (the place nobody wants to be. Syracuse obviously would be nice geographically as well.
RE: RE: Law on Dom Smith  
Shecky : 8/30/2016 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13094232 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13094229 Shecky said:


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I could be confusin people, but wasn't Law pretty loud on his Dom criticism over the years?



Shecky,
No, Law has consistently been the "high man" on Smith. He's a big fan and has been.


Thanks Dan. I don't follow these nearly as well as you do, that's why I was asking. I remember a couple of years ago one of the big name guys starting shitting on Dom and everyone else followed. Wasn't sure if it was Law or someone else.
Law  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 2:10 pm : link
has been high on Smith, was previously high on Nimmo for a long time but noted loss of speed/athleticism and said he's a 4th OF type nowadays, not a believer Matz can stay healthy, was very low on Syndergaard but changed his tune before Thor made the bigs, liked Cecchini and still seemingly does, very high on Rosario
Am I reading this right?  
ZGiants98 : 8/30/2016 2:35 pm : link
Church got promoted to Vegas? Talk about extreme.
Dan  
Metnut : 8/30/2016 2:50 pm : link
is there any incentive the Mets can offer as a big market team with a lot of revenue to get Nashville to take them that Oakland wouldn't be able to offer?
RE: Dan  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13094504 Metnut said:
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is there any incentive the Mets can offer as a big market team with a lot of revenue to get Nashville to take them that Oakland wouldn't be able to offer?


To my knowledge their is no financial benefit offered that. I've never really seen an article portraying team X as being more appealing thanks to more money to offer, usually it's about geography/prospects in the system. I could be wrong. Just haven't seen anything to suggest that.
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