NFT: Marlins at Mets Game 2

Verrette is coming back but for the BP, not as a starter.

I assume Montero goes down for now as he won't be available for a few days

and admit that I was wrong about Reyes.

I was always one who preferred Reyes over Wright and felt that when in their prime and healthy Reyes was the more dynamic, game-breaking talent than Wright.

That said, I hated the idea of bringing him back this season. Besides the obvious disappointment in his off the field behavior and after not seeing much of him in his Toronto/Colorado I just believed he was a declining talent with personal baggage.

As it turns out, he can still get on base and disrupt a game with his speed/base-running, which is exactly what this team has lacked. He plays a very good 3b and can still play SS if needed. I also like the chemistry it seems like he and YC have been building. That is hopefully a positive factor in YC's return.

I still love watching Reyes fire it across the diamond after all these years. He has such a great arm. He just flicks the ball with such ease.

has been so much better than expected for this team. Love it.

Walker and Cabrera being available today. Bruce needs to get back in the lineup. He is not going to get out of this slump sitting on the bench (where Grandy belongs).

In comment 13094022 Chris684 said:

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and admit that I was wrong about Reyes. I was always one who preferred Reyes over Wright and felt that when in their prime and healthy Reyes was the more dynamic, game-breaking talent than Wright. That said, I hated the idea of bringing him back this season. Besides the obvious disappointment in his off the field behavior and after not seeing much of him in his Toronto/Colorado I just believed he was a declining talent with personal baggage. As it turns out, he can still get on base and disrupt a game with his speed/base-running, which is exactly what this team has lacked. He plays a very good 3b and can still play SS if needed. I also like the chemistry it seems like he and YC have been building. That is hopefully a positive factor in YC's return.

this

Not only is he playing at a reduced salary but he's playing his heart out there, its inspiring to say for baseball fans like myself. I hope he's back next year

In comment 13094224 Rory said:

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In comment 13094022 Chris684 said: Quote: and admit that I was wrong about Reyes. I was always one who preferred Reyes over Wright and felt that when in their prime and healthy Reyes was the more dynamic, game-breaking talent than Wright. That said, I hated the idea of bringing him back this season. Besides the obvious disappointment in his off the field behavior and after not seeing much of him in his Toronto/Colorado I just believed he was a declining talent with personal baggage. As it turns out, he can still get on base and disrupt a game with his speed/base-running, which is exactly what this team has lacked. He plays a very good 3b and can still play SS if needed. I also like the chemistry it seems like he and YC have been building. That is hopefully a positive factor in YC's return. this Not only is he playing at a reduced salary but he's playing his heart out there, its inspiring to say for baseball fans like myself. I hope he's back next year

He will 100% be back next year, he's under team control IIRC.

In comment 13094227 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13094224 Rory said: Quote: In comment 13094022 Chris684 said: Quote: and admit that I was wrong about Reyes. I was always one who preferred Reyes over Wright and felt that when in their prime and healthy Reyes was the more dynamic, game-breaking talent than Wright. That said, I hated the idea of bringing him back this season. Besides the obvious disappointment in his off the field behavior and after not seeing much of him in his Toronto/Colorado I just believed he was a declining talent with personal baggage. As it turns out, he can still get on base and disrupt a game with his speed/base-running, which is exactly what this team has lacked. He plays a very good 3b and can still play SS if needed. I also like the chemistry it seems like he and YC have been building. That is hopefully a positive factor in YC's return. this Not only is he playing at a reduced salary but he's playing his heart out there, its inspiring to say for baseball fans like myself. I hope he's back next year He will 100% be back next year, he's under team control IIRC.

His agent said there's a team option for 2017. And $ isn't a worry for Reyes:

The Rockies are on the hook to pay the troubled former All-Star more than $38 million on his deal that ran through 2018.

Rockies owe Reyes X, since contracts are guaranteed in baseball.
When a player is cut, he still gets his full pay.
If he then signs with another team, his new salary offsets his old pay.
So if a player is supposed to earn $1, gets cut and signs with another team. He signs for 10 cents. He still earns $1, 90 cents from former club and 10 cents from current. He has no incentive to sign for more than the minimum.

"ive been a mets fan for 60 years
50
the winmdow is closing
a few years ago thr mrtd were looking at a dynasty with their vaunted pitching staff
and now theres one good player - cespedes
"its scary"




Evan Roberts; I think if the Mets win their games, they are in.


What is going on?

The Mets confirm that Logan Verrett will be added to the roster from Triple-A Las Vegas before Tuesday's game against the Marlins. They did not yet announce the corresponding move, but Rafael Montero demoted would seem to make sense since he threw 100 pitches Monday and would be unavailable for several days. - Rubin

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The Mets confirm that Logan Verrett will be added to the roster from Triple-A Las Vegas before Tuesday's game against the Marlins. They did not yet announce the corresponding move, but Rafael Montero demoted would seem to make sense since he threw 100 pitches Monday and would be unavailable for several days. - Rubin

New York Mets:
RHP Rafael Montero has been optioned to @LasVegas51s as the corresponding move for Logan Verrett

You could argue that an extra infielder would be more useful than Logan Verrett, but T.J. Rivera is not yet eligible to return.

I honestly thought they should have done this with Robert Gsellman also. Not any knock at him. Just he's unusable for few days.

Michael Baron:
Verett basically replaces an unavailable Montero, which is cool. But if Walker/Cabrera are still out, bench is still very short

Michael Mayer
I honestly think the Mets like playing with a short bench, it's the only explanation

Cecchini up today (as opposed to next week) make any real difference as far as FA/service time goes?

I'm virtually certain you have to remain in minors for 10 days. And only thing that waives that is end of AAA season

DL also waives 10-day requirement. But no one is going on DL two days before rosters expand unless severe.

So no TJ until Mondey. Nimmo, Conforto, Kelly, Plawecki, etc probably Thursday

The Mets have extended their player development agreement with Triple-A Las Vegas for two more seasons, through 2018. The Pacific Coast League is clearly not ideal travel-wise, but the Mets decided to re-up. - Rubin

In comment 13094572 sphinx said:

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The Mets have extended their player development agreement with Triple-A Las Vegas for two more seasons, through 2018. The Pacific Coast League is clearly not ideal travel-wise, but the Mets decided to re-up. - Rubin

awful news. AAA level is basically useless to us, developmentally and logistically.

In comment 13094537 sphinx said:

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I'm virtually certain you have to remain in minors for 10 days. And only thing that waives that is end of AAA season DL also waives 10-day requirement. But no one is going on DL two days before rosters expand unless severe. So no TJ until Mondey. Nimmo, Conforto, Kelly, Plawecki, etc probably Thursday

Why don't they send down Smoker, who has pitched in 3 straight days and bring up Reynolds as insurance at SS at least.

Met Lineup:
Reyes 3B
Cabrera SS
Cespedes LF
Bruce RF
DeAZA CF
Flores 2B
Loney 1B
Rivera C
Lugo P

And they are riding out this De Aza hot streak.

Cabrera in the lineup. Says knee feels a little better but feels he needs to be in lineup for big games. - Kristie Ackert

we need Bruce to be the 2016 Jay Bruce again

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Why don't they send down Smoker, who has pitched in 3 straight days and bring up Reynolds as insurance at SS at least.

It seems if they sent down Smoker now they couldn't bring him back until next week. They have an accomplished SS on the roster, if needed.

Disappointing that they're re-upping.

In comment 13094761 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Disappointing that they're re-upping.

Rochester was there only option until the Twins re-upped there. No place else to go. They blew it in Buffalo.

... because of a setback with his shoulder (shocker!)

And apparently Walker is no longer going to be able to play every day for the rest of the year because his back is all fucked up.

Just never ends.

Just got a notice that he is scratched for Thursday.

irritation, might be done for the year.

Just when the team started to get healthy and started to perform like they were expected to(due to said health), they get this news. This might be the final nail in the coffin.

A team can only take so much bad news before they start believing in the bad juju. Its going to be VERY hard getting into the playoffs without Matz and Walker.

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... because of a setback with his shoulder (shocker!) And apparently Walker is no longer going to be able to play every day for the rest of the year because his back is all fucked up. Just never ends.

Matz said he believes he will pitch again this season ... which makes it sound like he won't. Gsellman and Lugo probably be going against the Nats this weekend.

Walker, it seems, will be day-to-day every day

Damn...

...well guys, a positive I would take is we are still hanging on while facing obstacle after obstacle. In the long run, looking back it probably is meaningless but I take it as a good sign that this team is where it is despite the adversity. Hopefully it means better days ahead. While this is not the best news, I am still hoping for the best.

He'll save us!

Matz will ever get healthy enough to last one major league season.

We gotta start considering the other minor league guys as the 5th starter in 2017

In comment 13094873 arcarsenal said:

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... because of a setback with his shoulder (shocker!) And apparently Walker is no longer going to be able to play every day for the rest of the year because his back is all fucked up. Just never ends.

Looks like DeGrom just got pencilled in as Thursday's starter instead?
Where is Syndergaard?
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Fire Ray Ramirez!

including him getting down the line in 3.8 seconds in the Playoffs vs the Dodgers last season and was wondering: is he the most talented Mets position player ever?


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and have his bone spur surgery and get started on rehabbing for 2017.

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including him getting down the line in 3.8 seconds in the Playoffs vs the Dodgers last season and was wondering: is he the most talented Mets position player ever? Link - ( New Window )

In recent history? Beltran is up there. Darryl was a legit 5-tool guy, no?

him down now if this isn't a season ending injury and he only needs another 2-3 weeks.

If the team falls out of the race, then shut him down. If they are still within a game or two of the wild card and Matz is ready to make a few starts down the stretch, I think we'd be happy to have him attempt to contribute.

#Mets Opening Day lineup
Granderson: 0.2 WAR
Wright: Out for year
Cespedes: Chronic quad strain
Duda: Out for year
Walker: Serious back issue
Conforto: AAA
Cabrera: Chronic knee issue
d'Arnaud: -0.6 WAR
Lagares: Out for year
Harvey: Out for yea

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in fact I would have him get that bone spur fixed NOW.

Also I wouldn't re-sign Walker for anything more than one season with that back issue

In comment 13095135 Rflairr said:

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Also I wouldn't re-sign Walker for anything more than one season with that back issue

The question may be ... will they sign Walker at all? He's had back issues for a number of years and he'll be 31 before next season.

Duda also may be a question. He was on the DL last year with a back and this year has been a disaster. He, too, will be 31 before next season.

We really can't even go one day without a new injury or an old one recurring. It's seriously incredible. We should just start a nightly pool on which player will get hurt.

My guess is Cabrera aggravates his knee again tonight and has to come out early.

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Over the last 17 days, 4 #Mets pitchers earned their 1st major-league wins, incl. Seth Lugo, who starts tonight vs. #Marlins—7 pm on @SNYtv.

In comment 13094969 chris r said:

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including him getting down the line in 3.8 seconds in the Playoffs vs the Dodgers last season and was wondering: is he the most talented Mets position player ever? Link - ( New Window )

Beltran. Strawberry. Piazza. Not many more I'd have ahead of him off the top of my head.

He was a pain in the ass last year. Not so much when off the juice.

Hope he settles down.