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Giants release Safeties Bennett Jackson and Cooper Taylor

Anakim : 8/30/2016 2:34 pm
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The Giants released safeties Cooper Taylor and Bennett Jackson, per source.
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Guess A Giant Life  
Vin R : 8/30/2016 2:35 pm : link
Won't have a happy ending
Another 5th round reach  
jeff57 : 8/30/2016 2:36 pm : link
goes bust.
Well two young picks who did nothing  
SGMen : 8/30/2016 2:36 pm : link
I think Jackson is eligible for PS?
Elite Mobster will have a shit fit  
Anakim : 8/30/2016 2:36 pm : link
Can't wait to see
Excellent moves  
5BowlsSoon : 8/30/2016 2:37 pm : link
Two less injuries waiting to happen are gone. Thank you
RE: Another 5th round reach  
jcn56 : 8/30/2016 2:37 pm : link
In comment 13094414 jeff57 said:
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goes bust.


What the hell is a 5th round reach?!
jcn..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/30/2016 2:38 pm : link
code for another opportunity for one of Reese's biggest fans to take another swipe.
RE: RE: Another 5th round reach  
jeff57 : 8/30/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13094423 jcn56 said:
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goes bust.



What the hell is a 5th round reach?!

Picking someone who shouldn't have been drafted. See also Myyykellle.
Had to be done  
DavidinBMNY : 8/30/2016 2:39 pm : link
If Jackson is eligible for PS it's worth it to give him a shot there. I could see that. He can play multiple spots and be called up in a pinch. CB, Slot, and Safety. Maybe not well, but he'd be a good guy to keep around.

What is interesting is who has jumped these guys. I think it's clear Andrew Adams and Justin Currie jumped those guys and they are both UDFA. One of those guys might make the team.
Currie blows IMO  
DennyInDenville : 8/30/2016 2:41 pm : link
He looked awful.

Hope Thompson and Behre are the 3 and 4
MyKell Thompson*  
DennyInDenville : 8/30/2016 2:41 pm : link
Not to be confused with Darian
all those measurables gone to waste  
ColHowPepper : 8/30/2016 2:43 pm : link
Adrian Thompson we know is a lock, so it seems as though Behre, injury prone as he may be, is safe for the moment, along with Klaatu's Mykele Thompson. I'd have thought Currie would be first to go, shows what I know. Then there's Andrew Adams, AA as either Spags or BM calls him.

This would be primary go to today but for Will Beatty.
Goes to show how much better we are then last year  
Big Rick in FL : 8/30/2016 2:43 pm : link
Jackson was a starter last year at this time. Now he can't even make the final 75.
Addition of Beatty means 10 more cuts to go...  
TheMick7 : 8/30/2016 2:44 pm : link
.
RE: Another 5th round reach  
Randy in CT : 8/30/2016 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13094414 jeff57 said:
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goes bust.
Pipe down, dick wad. Pick the best players whatever round.
Thought Jackson had a shot, but hopefully for both guys  
Jimmy Googs : 8/30/2016 2:46 pm : link
they can latch on somewhere.

In the end, neither was going to really contribute positively anyway...
Could the emergence of Adams have anything to do with  
Canton : 8/30/2016 2:48 pm : link
their release as well?
RE: RE: Another 5th round reach  
jeff57 : 8/30/2016 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13094481 Randy in CT said:
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goes bust.

Pipe down, dick wad. Pick the best players whatever round.


Agree. And neither he nor Mykkelle were. But all the Reese defenders can do when they're provided wrong, from day one, is call names. Actually, they hurl insults when you say it was wrong on draft day, and continue to the bitter end.
RE: RE: RE: Another 5th round reach  
Klaatu : 8/30/2016 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13094434 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13094414 jeff57 said:


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goes bust.



What the hell is a 5th round reach?!


Picking someone who shouldn't have been drafted. See also Myyykellle.


To you, maybe. Not to Gil Brandt.
Since I didn't follow OTAs and minicamp,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2016 2:50 pm : link
was Jackson fully healed or still recovering?
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/30/2016 2:51 pm : link
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But all the Reese defenders can do when they're provided wrong, from day one, is call names


The fact that Reese "defenders" exist is only because of posters who illogically want to blame every bad move on him and give no credit.

So they use different names to be derogatory - "Reese defenders" Reese apologists", etc. Why is it such a bad thing to support the team you root for instead of wish ill?
They were really hyping Jackson at FS last year....  
Tesla : 8/30/2016 2:51 pm : link
before he hurt his knee. Plus he could play both corner and safety. Maybe he hasn't fully recovered from the injury.
RE: LOL..  
jeff57 : 8/30/2016 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13094508 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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But all the Reese defenders can do when they're provided wrong, from day one, is call names



The fact that Reese "defenders" exist is only because of posters who illogically want to blame every bad move on him and give no credit.

So they use different names to be derogatory - "Reese defenders" Reese apologists", etc. Why is it such a bad thing to support the team you root for instead of wish ill?


Huh? You're right. He's never made a bad pick, a bad trade, or a bad move. Go team!
haha  
UConn4523 : 8/30/2016 2:52 pm : link
a 5th round reach, is there such a thing? Guy takes a shot on a player he liked later in the draft, news at 11. If you want to hate Reese for that, I really don't know what to tell you.
RE: all those measurables gone to waste  
Klaatu : 8/30/2016 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13094462 ColHowPepper said:
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Adrian Thompson we know is a lock, so it seems as though Behre, injury prone as he may be, is safe for the moment, along with Klaatu's Mykele Thompson. I'd have thought Currie would be first to go, shows what I know. Then there's Andrew Adams, AA as either Spags or BM calls him.

This would be primary go to today but for Will Beatty.


My Mykkele Thompson? You would also have to say my Justin Currie, too, along with Andrew Adams.
RE: Another 5th round reach  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/30/2016 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13094414 jeff57 said:
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goes bust.


Just like 75-80% of what's picked in that round everywhere else.
And yet..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/30/2016 2:54 pm : link
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Huh? You're right. He's never made a bad pick, a bad trade, or a bad move. Go team!


Even there you don't acknowledge anything good. I guess the guy doesn't have 2 SB rings, right?

Boo, Giants! You suck!!
Always good to get rid of injury prone players  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/30/2016 2:55 pm : link
that haven't done much.
RE: Another 5th round reach  
giantgiantfan : 8/30/2016 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13094414 jeff57 said:
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goes bust.


Thats like saying a guy drafted in the 10th round of fantasy football was a reach...
Hard to take a poster seriously when they  
drkenneth : 8/30/2016 2:59 pm : link
think there is such thing as a 5th round "reach".
LMAO I thought '5th round reach' was initially a joke  
David in LA : 8/30/2016 3:00 pm : link
Most of the prospects this far back are far from finished products, and the odds of these guys making it past their first deal isn't particularly great. Unless you want to be a dumbass and cherrypick a few names we could have picked with 20/20 hindsight, this is one of the stupider gripes I've seen here.
Cooper Taylor really had to go.  
Mr. Bungle : 8/30/2016 3:02 pm : link
And it wasn't just the injuries. His angles and tackling weren't very good. Just this last game against the Jets, he threw his shoulder into a ball carrier, and of course just bounced off. Didn't even make an effort to wrap.

That's not how you play safety in the NFL. Or at any level, really.

I wish him well in his personal life, but I won't miss him taking up a Giants roster spot.
RE: Hard to take a poster seriously when they  
jeff57 : 8/30/2016 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13094544 drkenneth said:
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think there is such thing as a 5th round "reach".

Adrian Robinson, Cooper Taylor, Mykkelle. Yes, if you take guys who have no business being drafted at all in round 5, it's a reach. That's how you miss the playoffs 6 out of 7 years. Seriously.
Jeff  
Anakim : 8/30/2016 3:06 pm : link
To an extent I agree, but you also need to consider that drafting a player late is also a way of securing his services.
RE: LOL..  
Reb8thVA : 8/30/2016 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13094508 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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But all the Reese defenders can do when they're provided wrong, from day one, is call names



The fact that Reese "defenders" exist is only because of posters who illogically want to blame every bad move on him and give no credit.

So they use different names to be derogatory - "Reese defenders" Reese apologists", etc. Why is it such a bad thing to support the team you root for instead of wish ill?


I'm no going to tar and feather Reese for a 5th round pick that didn't pan out. Rounds 1-4 is a different story. If you look at the Taylor pick it looked like a worthwhile bet. He had good measurables and played a position of need.

That said, I would make a counter argument that the existence of "Reese critics" was only in response to the "In Reese we Trust" chorus that refused to acknowledge that poor drafting was killing this team.

I take you point Fatman. Some of the criticism of Reese has certainly been over the top and ridiculous, but that said some of his decisions are worthy of questioning.
Wish I had a dime for all the goodwill...  
M.S. : 8/30/2016 3:06 pm : link

...stuff written about Cooper Taylor on BBI.

Would be a very rich man.
Classy  
Anakim : 8/30/2016 3:07 pm : link
Bennett Jackson Jr. ‏@B_Jax2
Thank you @Giants for giving me the opportunity to play for this organization the past 2 years. Wish nothing but the best for this team #NYG
RE: RE: LOL..  
drkenneth : 8/30/2016 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13094568 Reb8thVA said:
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In comment 13094508 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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But all the Reese defenders can do when they're provided wrong, from day one, is call names



The fact that Reese "defenders" exist is only because of posters who illogically want to blame every bad move on him and give no credit.

So they use different names to be derogatory - "Reese defenders" Reese apologists", etc. Why is it such a bad thing to support the team you root for instead of wish ill?



I'm no going to tar and feather Reese for a 5th round pick that didn't pan out. Rounds 1-4 is a different story. If you look at the Taylor pick it looked like a worthwhile bet. He had good measurables and played a position of need.

That said, I would make a counter argument that the existence of "Reese critics" was only in response to the "In Reese we Trust" chorus that refused to acknowledge that poor drafting was killing this team.

I take you point Fatman. Some of the criticism of Reese has certainly been over the top and ridiculous, but that said some of his decisions are worthy of questioning.


The point is that all GMs have "decisions worthy of questioning"

and 5th rounds have a high bust rate.
RE: Jeff  
jeff57 : 8/30/2016 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13094567 Anakim said:
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To an extent I agree, but you also need to consider that drafting a player late is also a way of securing his services.


One time, okay. Three times over the space of a couple of years? Not okay.
Interesting. Berhe and Thompson sticking at least for now.  
Heisenberg : 8/30/2016 3:10 pm : link
Jackson and Taylor seemed like measurable/athlete dudes who couldn't stay healthy and weren't good enough when they were.
Can't post a thread so someone else has to  
Anakim : 8/30/2016 3:10 pm : link
Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan
The #Giants also released WR K.J. Maye and CB Joe Powell, per sources. Maye flashed at times. Saw some potential.
Wait  
B in ALB : 8/30/2016 3:13 pm : link
I just read right here on BBI that Cooper Taylor's preseason statistics were so good that he was virtually a shoe-in for a lot of playing time this season. What happened?!?
Should have drafted Tavarres King!  
drkenneth : 8/30/2016 3:13 pm : link
Big miss.
2013 Draft - ( New Window )
Jackson is definitely eligible for the practice squad.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/30/2016 3:15 pm : link
Although that tweet does read like a final farewell, I wouldn't be surprised to see him return in September.

It's not that unusual to waive a PS-ticketed player in the first round of cuts. I think they did it last year with Will Tye.
RE: RE: Jeff  
David in LA : 8/30/2016 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13094592 jeff57 said:
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To an extent I agree, but you also need to consider that drafting a player late is also a way of securing his services.



One time, okay. Three times over the space of a couple of years? Not okay.


Accorsi squeezed in 3 "5th Round Reaches" (can this now be in BBI vernacular?) in a span of two years with Nick Greison, John Markam, and Jonathan Carter. FIRE REESE! ACCORSI!
King  
Carson53 : 8/30/2016 3:16 pm : link
looks like he has made this team, I didn't realize he was 26
until I read it yesterday. He has bounced around a bit.
RE: RE: Jeff  
Klaatu : 8/30/2016 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13094592 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13094567 Anakim said:


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To an extent I agree, but you also need to consider that drafting a player late is also a way of securing his services.



One time, okay. Three times over the space of a couple of years? Not okay.


Here's a link to the 2013 draft

2013 NFL Draft

Please point out all of the great players Reese passed on to "reach" for Cooper Taylor.
RE: Currie blows IMO  
Carson53 : 8/30/2016 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13094447 DennyInDenville said:
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He looked awful.

Hope Thompson and Behre are the 3 and 4
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Maybe, but he made a big hit late in the game against
the Jets, denying a first down. That is really what
preseason is all about, making an impression on the coaches.
Jackson just can't seem to break the rotation  
JonC : 8/30/2016 3:20 pm : link
at FS or CB. Berhe sealed their fates, and Currie is rising.
RE: RE: RE: Jeff  
jeff57 : 8/30/2016 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13094623 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13094592 jeff57 said:


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In comment 13094567 Anakim said:


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To an extent I agree, but you also need to consider that drafting a player late is also a way of securing his services.



One time, okay. Three times over the space of a couple of years? Not okay.



Here's a link to the 2013 draft

2013 NFL Draft

Please point out all of the great players Reese passed on to "reach" for Cooper Taylor.

Quinten Dial, Micah Hyde, Luke Wilson, Zac Stacy all would have contributed more than Taylor did.
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