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NFT: Someone please give me a good brisket recipe....

lawguy9801 : 8/30/2016 3:24 pm
I love eating brisket but have never actually made one. Looking to change that this weekend.

Any tips, recipes, favorite rubs are appreciated.

Please note that I only have a gas grill and not a smoker.

Thanks in advance.

Not your typical recipe  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2016 3:32 pm : link
but I really like this.


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26.2 : 8/30/2016 3:33 pm : link
this will not be helpful to you, but brisket on my smoker is my nemesis. Its the Jason Witten of delicious smoked meat.

that you only have a gas grill should not hinder you though. There are ways to use it as a smoker. Plenty of tips on the web about it, but I would try it on something eles first.
I just made one. Tye recipes can change but these are some important  
robbieballs2003 : 8/30/2016 3:41 pm : link
Parts.

Are you smoking it? If so, this is what I did.

Injected the meat with something I made. Then I put a rub on it. The meat gets juicy so the rub didn't stick all that well. What I would do different is put the rub on one side and then when I was done put it on a big piece of cellophane. Rub the second side and then wrap in cellophane and let it rest for the night. Put it in a pan in case it leaks through.

Get the smoker ready and take out the meat and let it rest for about an hour at room temperature. Once the smoker is ready put the brisket on the smoker fat side up. Smoke until the internal temperature is about 165. There are different parts of the brisket so familiarize with them. I think the flat has to be at 165.

Once it reaches that temp, take it off the smoker and wrap in heavy duty foil with a marinade. Keep it fully wrapped but make it somewhat easy to take the temp again. Once the flat gets to 195 you can take it off.

When you take it off, make a vent in the foil to let the steam out so it doesn't continue to cook for 10 to 20 minutes. Then you can sauce it with bbq sauce. Cover it back up and let it sit in an empty cooler for at least an hour.

Take it out. Remove the point. It should come apart with minimal effort. Cut into cubes, put it in a pan, and throw it back in the bbq for around 20 minutes to make burnt ends.

The rest of the brisket can be cut but do not cut it unless you are ready to eat it. It will dry out quickly. I made the mistake of cutting mine too early. It tasted phenomenal when I first cut it but we didn't really eat it until about 2 or 3 hours later.

Also, some people like fat. I do not. I trimmed a good portion of the fat off before I started cooking it and scraped the majority of the fat off after I separated the point from the flat. That is a preference though.
Smoking on gas grill  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/30/2016 3:43 pm : link
You either get a metal smoker box or you can use a small disposable aluminum pan. You put your soaked chips in it. If using aluminum pan, cover with foil poked with holes. Put under the grate but over the burner and turn to high on grill. Once it's good and smoking, turn off all burners except the one under the smoker box. Put your meat on an area of the grill with no burner lit. Close lid.
brisket is hard to screw up  
AP in Halfmoon : 8/30/2016 3:44 pm : link
just don't overcook or overheat it.
I love this one.  
smshmth8690 : 8/30/2016 4:33 pm : link
The original recipe is from Emeril Lagasse's Real & Rustic cookbook. The one below is almost the same recipe.
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RE: I love this one.  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2016 5:07 pm : link
In comment 13094904 smshmth8690 said:
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The original recipe is from Emeril Lagasse's Real & Rustic cookbook. The one below is almost the same recipe. Braised Beef Brisket. - ( New Window )


If you love it, Drew, I've gotta try it. That Rustic Rub is pretty much his Essence recipe. Surprised to see no tomato in it.
Drew  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2016 5:09 pm : link
Is this the original, below?
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Hope Solo  
DennyInDenville : 8/30/2016 5:11 pm : link
Has the best brisket recipe IMO
RE: Hope Solo  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2016 5:25 pm : link
In comment 13095013 DennyInDenville said:
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Has the best brisket recipe IMO


You couldn't put enough gravy on that to make it look edible
Hey Bill...  
Grey Pilgrim : 8/30/2016 5:27 pm : link
IIRC you posted a link to a site for French cuisine recipes a while back!

Would you please post it again. I want to bookmark it.

:sorryformillering:
RE: Hey Bill...  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2016 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13095046 Grey Pilgrim said:
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IIRC you posted a link to a site for French cuisine recipes a while back!

Would you please post it again. I want to bookmark it.

:sorryformillering:


The only site I can think of that would be all French would be Laura Calder from Cooking Channel. Here it is if that's what you're thinking of
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Pilgrim  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2016 5:44 pm : link
btw, I had my daughter buy me escargot plates for my birthday. I order snails from Amazon and made this. I don't love cooking with red wine, so I skipped bourguignonne. Loved it. Had the leftovers for lunch the next day. Froze the leftover garlic butter and used it on a ribeye. And my apologizes for millering also :)
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Thanks Bill!  
Grey Pilgrim : 8/30/2016 5:44 pm : link
It's very much appreciated!

Thanks again Bill...  
Grey Pilgrim : 8/30/2016 5:46 pm : link
Best cuisine in the world! imo

:thumbsup:

That recipe looks awesome!  
Grey Pilgrim : 8/30/2016 5:53 pm : link
I've got some family coming in..maybe we'll try it!
RE: Pilgrim  
Bill L : 8/30/2016 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13095070 Bill in UT said:
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btw, I had my daughter buy me escargot plates for my birthday. I order snails from Amazon and made this. I don't love cooking with red wine, so I skipped bourguignonne. Loved it. Had the leftovers for lunch the next day. Froze the leftover garlic butter and used it on a ribeye. And my apologizes for millering also :) Link - ( New Window )
ive done something very similar at home. Found Roland escargots at Walmart of all places. Couldn't find them anywhere else, other than frozen small snails at the Chinese store.

But, I don't see red wine in the recipe. I saw Burgundy but I think that's where the snails are from.
Not for the grill  
PEEJ : 8/30/2016 6:11 pm : link
Brisket recipe - ketchup, onion soup mix and ginger ale.

Braise covered in slow oven for 3 hrs
RE: RE: Pilgrim  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2016 6:11 pm : link
In comment 13095091 Bill L said:
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In comment 13095070 Bill in UT said:


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btw, I had my daughter buy me escargot plates for my birthday. I order snails from Amazon and made this. I don't love cooking with red wine, so I skipped bourguignonne. Loved it. Had the leftovers for lunch the next day. Froze the leftover garlic butter and used it on a ribeye. And my apologizes for millering also :) Link - ( New Window )

ive done something very similar at home. Found Roland escargots at Walmart of all places. Couldn't find them anywhere else, other than frozen small snails at the Chinese store.

But, I don't see red wine in the recipe. I saw Burgundy but I think that's where the snails are from.


The recipe does not have wine in it. I get it with the red wine on the side :) The snails were Saveurs, I believe
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This is a loaded question.  
PeterinAtlanta : 8/30/2016 6:25 pm : link
What's your cut? Do you have a whole packer or just a flat? How big is it? You say gas grill...what kind? How many burners? What is the burner orientation; front to back or side to side? Want a rub? Freshly ground coarse black pepper and kosher salt 50/50.

Brisket isn't the easiest thing to do. You're cooking something "well done" and then cooking it some more to make it tender. 250 degrees. 10-12 hours. Wrap it, if necessary. Rest for an hour in a cooler.
I know it's sacrilegious  
montanagiant : 8/30/2016 6:35 pm : link
But i tried someone's Brisket that was cooked using the Sous Vide method and then smoking it for 3 hours at the end, and the damn thing was unbelievably delicious.

I have smoked a few in my time, but all I can get are flats and some come out great, some a bit dry, its IMO the hardest thing to smoke and have it come out consistently every time
RE: This is a loaded question.  
lawguy9801 : 8/30/2016 6:42 pm : link
In comment 13095126 PeterinAtlanta said:
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What's your cut? Do you have a whole packer or just a flat? How big is it? You say gas grill...what kind? How many burners? What is the burner orientation; front to back or side to side? Want a rub? Freshly ground coarse black pepper and kosher salt 50/50.

Brisket isn't the easiest thing to do. You're cooking something "well done" and then cooking it some more to make it tender. 250 degrees. 10-12 hours. Wrap it, if necessary. Rest for an hour in a cooler.


Thanks. Haven't bought a cut yet. Grill has three burners, side to side.
Thanks to all, btw  
lawguy9801 : 8/30/2016 6:43 pm : link
Will read all and links when I get a chance.
RE: I know it's sacrilegious  
Bill L : 8/30/2016 6:48 pm : link
In comment 13095134 montanagiant said:
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But i tried someone's Brisket that was cooked using the Sous Vide method and then smoking it for 3 hours at the end, and the damn thing was unbelievably delicious.

I have smoked a few in my time, but all I can get are flats and some come out great, some a bit dry, its IMO the hardest thing to smoke and have it come out consistently every time
apparently Kenji stoked some serious controversy among the smoke purists, recently.
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I was hoping you didn't say side to side.  
PeterinAtlanta : 8/30/2016 6:52 pm : link
The issue with what you're trying is part of it will be over a burner that's on. This is usually an indirect cook. Make a "heat shield" with foil to direct the heat towards the back so it goes around the meat.
RE: I know it's sacrilegious  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2016 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13095134 montanagiant said:
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But i tried someone's Brisket that was cooked using the Sous Vide method and then smoking it for 3 hours at the end, and the damn thing was unbelievably delicious.

I have smoked a few in my time, but all I can get are flats and some come out great, some a bit dry, its IMO the hardest thing to smoke and have it come out consistently every time


I looked at a recipe a few weeks ago and I think it was like 3 days in the sous vide.
I cook indirect on the Weber  
AP in Halfmoon : 8/30/2016 9:13 pm : link
with a smoke box. As long as you don't overheat it they turn out fine. I also wrap it and add some liquid.
RE: Drew  
smshmth8690 : 8/30/2016 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13095008 Bill in UT said:
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Is this the original, below? Link - ( New Window )


Bill - No the original one didn't have bacon, or root vegetables. The one I posted is really close, but the original treated the onions a little different before cooking, and it had a lot of fresh cracked black pepper. The finishing sauce was the same, adding a little cream, and horseradish to the braising liquid. That settles it, it's going to be the first 'cold weather dish' this Autumn!
RE: RE: I know it's sacrilegious  
montanagiant : 8/31/2016 12:41 am : link
In comment 13095299 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 13095134 montanagiant said:


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But i tried someone's Brisket that was cooked using the Sous Vide method and then smoking it for 3 hours at the end, and the damn thing was unbelievably delicious.

I have smoked a few in my time, but all I can get are flats and some come out great, some a bit dry, its IMO the hardest thing to smoke and have it come out consistently every time



I looked at a recipe a few weeks ago and I think it was like 3 days in the sous vide.

Yeah he said it was about that long. Damn thing was in my top 5 ever tasted.
RE: RE: I know it's sacrilegious  
montanagiant : 8/31/2016 12:42 am : link
In comment 13095152 Bill L said:
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In comment 13095134 montanagiant said:


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But i tried someone's Brisket that was cooked using the Sous Vide method and then smoking it for 3 hours at the end, and the damn thing was unbelievably delicious.

I have smoked a few in my time, but all I can get are flats and some come out great, some a bit dry, its IMO the hardest thing to smoke and have it come out consistently every time

apparently Kenji stoked some serious controversy among the smoke purists, recently. Sous vide smoked brisket - ( New Window )

What makes that even more impressive is that he never actually smoked it, he used smoke concentrate which usually you can taste the difference
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