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NFT: Standoff between LAPD and Chris Brown

Vin R : 8/30/2016 3:36 pm
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Officers attempted to enter the home and were told to get a search warrant, the police sources said. Detectives then waited for a warrant to search Brown's home for the weapon.

Meanwhile, Brown took to his Instagram account Tuesday morning, sharing videos in which he railed against police and media and said he was being unfairly portrayed as a villain.

In the videos, he said he woke up to helicopters overhead and officers at his gate and said that he was innocent.

“Good luck. When you get the warrant or whatever you need to do, you’re going to walk right up in here and you’re going to see nothing, you idiots,” he said in one video. “I’m tired of ... dealing with y’all.”

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Wait they tried to enter his home without a warrant?  
Mason : 8/30/2016 3:39 pm : link
Somewhere my old HS Civics teacher is weeping.
RE: Wait they tried to enter his home without a warrant?  
PersonalFoul : 8/30/2016 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13094707 Mason said:
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Somewhere my old HS Civics teacher is weeping.


If your HS Civics teacher is weeping, it's because you didn't learn anything in their class. There is nothing illegal about trying to enter a home without a warrant. It's called consent. When they didn't get consent, they waited for a warrant.
Sounds innocent  
Britt in VA : 8/30/2016 3:58 pm : link
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Police have retrieved at least one gun, other weapons and drugs from Chris Brown‘s home, after Chris threw a duffel bag out the window of his home … TMZ has learned.

TMZ broke the story … cops raced to Chris’ home early Tuesday morning after a woman called 911 and claimed he pulled a gun on her.

Police have been at the house since 3 AM and are in the process of getting a search warrant. Chris has not left the house, but multiple sources tell us he was defiant as he threw the duffel bag out the window, taunting cops and saying, “Come and get me.”

Chris posted NSFW video in which he refers to Black Lives Matter, saying “f*** the police.”
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Britt in VA : 8/30/2016 4:01 pm : link
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Two sources on scene tells us in addition to weapons there were drugs in the duffel bag.

As for the woman who called 911 … she’s a beauty pageant title holder.
Interpreting "black lives matter" as  
j_rud : 8/30/2016 4:03 pm : link
"I'm black, f*ck the police" may be problematic...
Guns are legal in this country  
Deej : 8/30/2016 4:06 pm : link
I dont know what the "other weapons" are, but are they relevant to this woman's complaint? And in California, everyone and their mother has a prescription for "drugs".

Did the police really show up with a helicopter? Was that before he exercised his rights (begging the question, why arrange for a helicopter but not a warrant) or after he exercised his rights (begging the question, why was the helicopter not needed ex ante). A helicopter because Brown threatened someone days ago? Seems to me like the LAPD is running a media campaign here. Scary things! Guns, weapons, drugs, helicopter!

Are you referring to Brown or the reporter?  
Britt in VA : 8/30/2016 4:06 pm : link
Because they were Brown's own words:

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"I ain't did s--t. I ain't going to do s--t. And it's always going to be be f--k the police black lives matter n---er," he said. "I don't care y'all going to stay playing with me like I'm the villain out here, like I'm going crazy. You guys got me f--ked up though because good luck when you get the warrant or whatever you need to do. You're going to walk right up in here and you're going to see nothing you idiots. I'm tired of f--king dealing with you all, y'all the worst gang in the world, the police, and I said it."
Isn't drugs and guns  
GiantsLaw : 8/30/2016 4:07 pm : link
Enough probable cause?
RE: Wait they tried to enter his home without a warrant?  
njm : 8/30/2016 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13094707 Mason said:
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Somewhere my old HS Civics teacher is weeping.


You mean they actually responded to a call from a woman who said she was threatened with a gun? PIGS IN A BLANKET, FRY'EM LIKE BACON!!
Here  
DanMetroMan : 8/30/2016 4:11 pm : link
is what he allegedly did
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The lede of that LA Times story pisses me off  
Deej : 8/30/2016 4:11 pm : link
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A bizarre standoff Tuesday between authorities and singer Chris Brown promised to be a “long and protracted” affair, according to an LAPD official, who said investigators had obtained a search warrant for the performer’s Tarzana home.


It's from the police perspective. It's a "bizarre standoff". Makes it look like Brown is holed up in his house making threats. When in fact he's just withholding consent to an after-the-incident search for evidence.
RE: Interpreting  
Giants2012 : 8/30/2016 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13094792 j_rud said:
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"I'm black, f*ck the police" may be problematic...


Stop, that's very racist. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Build that wall

RE: Isn't drugs and guns  
Deej : 8/30/2016 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13094810 GiantsLaw said:
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Enough probable cause?


Not necessarily. You have a 2nd amendment right to own a gun, so how can that be suggestive of a crime? Similarly, medical marijuana is legal in CA, and has a prescription.

The crime was the threats to the woman. But the crime was over. No exigent circumstances. So there is probably cause... to get a warrant.
you don't have to like Chris Brown  
Greg from LI : 8/30/2016 4:14 pm : link
to be glad that the police can't enter his home without a warrant.
RE: RE: Wait they tried to enter his home without a warrant?  
Deej : 8/30/2016 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13094812 njm said:
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Somewhere my old HS Civics teacher is weeping.



You mean they actually responded to a call from a woman who said she was threatened with a gun? PIGS IN A BLANKET, FRY'EM LIKE BACON!!


She was not in the home by the time she called the police. So doing a weapons search was about evidence, not responding to a crime in progress.
He is not legally allowed to possess a gun  
PersonalFoul : 8/30/2016 4:21 pm : link
as a convicted felon and having committed a crime of domestic violence.
Gun laws in California  
BurlyMan : 8/30/2016 4:21 pm : link
are very strict.
This is just another stupid incident between two stupid people,  
Ira : 8/30/2016 4:23 pm : link
one of whom happens to be a celebrity.
RE: Sounds innocent  
David in LA : 8/30/2016 4:24 pm : link
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Police have retrieved at least one gun, other weapons and drugs from Chris Brown‘s home, after Chris threw a duffel bag out the window of his home … TMZ has learned.

TMZ broke the story … cops raced to Chris’ home early Tuesday morning after a woman called 911 and claimed he pulled a gun on her.

Police have been at the house since 3 AM and are in the process of getting a search warrant. Chris has not left the house, but multiple sources tell us he was defiant as he threw the duffel bag out the window, taunting cops and saying, “Come and get me.”

Chris posted NSFW video in which he refers to Black Lives Matter, saying “f*** the police.”



Are you a 1000% sure?
Chris Brown  
Rob in CT/NYC : 8/30/2016 4:28 pm : link
has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a twat - an exceedingly talented one, but a twat nonetheless.
RE: He is not legally allowed to possess a gun  
j_rud : 8/30/2016 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13094861 PersonalFoul said:
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as a convicted felon and having committed a crime of domestic violence.


But because legitimately horrible travesties have been carried out against blacks by those in positions of authority, the law no longer applies to Brown by virtue of his being black. "F*ck the police! Because those law officers did that horrible thing I a completely unrelated situation I can do whatever the f*ck I want! Bitch was lookin at my jewlz! Shit ain't reglar like Tommer, either! Black lives matter!"
RE: Chris Brown  
Vin R : 8/30/2016 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13094886 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a twat - an exceedingly talented one, but a twat nonetheless.


Who's a bigger twat is the question.. Danny or Chris?
RE: Interpreting  
feelflows : 8/30/2016 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13094792 j_rud said:
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"I'm black, f*ck the police" may be problematic...


*is
Yeah I'm going to go ahead  
UConn4523 : 8/30/2016 4:31 pm : link
and assume this idiot did something wrong. They aren't wasting resources swarming his house for no reason.
Criminal law is not my area, but I'm guessing that since there were  
Marty in Albany : 8/30/2016 4:44 pm : link
multiple persons in the house, throwing the guns and drugs out the window makes it hard for the DA to prove which of the people in the house the guns and drugs belonged to. I assume that the stuff was wiped clean of fingerprints. If so, can they be charged with conspiracy?
RE: Chris Brown  
chris r : 8/30/2016 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13094886 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a twat - an exceedingly talented one, but a twat nonetheless.


What exactly are his talents besides being well endowed and attractive to women?
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David in LA : 8/30/2016 4:51 pm : link
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has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a twat - an exceedingly talented one, but a twat nonetheless.



What exactly are his talents besides being well endowed and attractive to women?


He's a good dancer, and he can sing. I think he's a piece of shit, but it's not like the guy is not talented. What age was he when his first album came out?
Since when has talent been a prerequisite for riches and notoriety?  
j_rud : 8/30/2016 4:58 pm : link
Some of our wealthiest, most well known "national treasures" would lose a basic knowledge contest to a hamster. This is America, having a sex tape can provide enough fame to ensure 3 generations of nieces and nephews won't ever have to work a real job. Land of the free bitches!
RE: Since when has talent been a prerequisite for riches and notoriety?  
Deej : 8/30/2016 5:06 pm : link
In comment 13094972 j_rud said:
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Some of our wealthiest, most well known "national treasures" would lose a basic knowledge contest to a hamster. This is America, having a sex tape can provide enough fame to ensure 3 generations of nieces and nephews won't ever have to work a real job. Land of the free bitches!


Unpopular take, but Kim K actually has a lot of branding talent. That's why she makes a ton of money. Obviously the sex tape is what brought her some fame, but she has worked to make a brand and capitalize on it.

Anyway, we can begrudge a lot of people for how they got rich. How many rich people are rich because their parents were rich? Where is the nobility in being rich because some ancestor owned land, ships, trains, or other human beings?
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j_rud : 8/30/2016 5:09 pm : link
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Some of our wealthiest, most well known "national treasures" would lose a basic knowledge contest to a hamster. This is America, having a sex tape can provide enough fame to ensure 3 generations of nieces and nephews won't ever have to work a real job. Land of the free bitches!



Unpopular take, but Kim K actually has a lot of branding talent. That's why she makes a ton of money. Obviously the sex tape is what brought her some fame, but she has worked to make a brand and capitalize on it.

Anyway, we can begrudge a lot of people for how they got rich. How many rich people are rich because their parents were rich? Where is the nobility in being rich because some ancestor owned land, ships, trains, or other human beings?


What is branding talent but securing the loyalty of the equally vapid and soulless? I agree that there's nothing noble about inherited wealth, they're just not as easy a target. Maybe if they had asses the size of a food truck...
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Deej : 8/30/2016 5:16 pm : link
In comment 13095007 j_rud said:
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What is branding talent but securing the loyalty of the equally vapid and soulless? I agree that there's nothing noble about inherited wealth, they're just not as easy a target. Maybe if they had asses the size of a food truck...


I'd say she's shown better business acumen than a certain political candidate running on his business record.
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njm : 8/30/2016 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13095023 Deej said:
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What is branding talent but securing the loyalty of the equally vapid and soulless? I agree that there's nothing noble about inherited wealth, they're just not as easy a target. Maybe if they had asses the size of a food truck...



I'd say she's shown better business acumen than a certain political candidate running on his business record.


"Make good ambassador to Mother Russia. We negotiate things"

RE: RE: RE: RE: Since when has talent been a prerequisite for riches and notoriety?  
j_rud : 8/30/2016 5:44 pm : link
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What is branding talent but securing the loyalty of the equally vapid and soulless? I agree that there's nothing noble about inherited wealth, they're just not as easy a target. Maybe if they had asses the size of a food truck...



I'd say she's shown better business acumen than a certain political candidate running on his business record.
. And I'd say she's shown more common sense than posting political nonsense in a thread when you know what happens. Make sure to double down on the Stupid by complaining with faux-indignance when the thread gets 86'd...
You seem like a pleasant fellow  
Deej : 8/30/2016 5:47 pm : link
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j_rud : 8/30/2016 5:57 pm : link
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What? That was pretty pleasant. I could've swore and called you all kinds of names associated with an infantile lack of restraint. Instead I playfully suggested you're not as sharp as a vapid sex object.
Praising her marketing talent  
UConn4523 : 8/30/2016 6:02 pm : link
riiiiight. I'm in the ad industry, she has very well paid people managing all social media and marketing. The only thing smart about it is hiring a team to do it for her.
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TJ : 8/30/2016 6:03 pm : link
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Some of our wealthiest, most well known "national treasures" would lose a basic knowledge contest to a hamster. This is America, having a sex tape can provide enough fame to ensure 3 generations of nieces and nephews won't ever have to work a real job. Land of the free bitches!



Unpopular take, but Kim K actually has a lot of branding talent. That's why she makes a ton of money. Obviously the sex tape is what brought her some fame, but she has worked to make a brand and capitalize on it.


I think it's a problem that "branding talent"is a thing and that it can make someone rich.
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j_rud : 8/30/2016 6:11 pm : link
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Some of our wealthiest, most well known "national treasures" would lose a basic knowledge contest to a hamster. This is America, having a sex tape can provide enough fame to ensure 3 generations of nieces and nephews won't ever have to work a real job. Land of the free bitches!



Unpopular take, but Kim K actually has a lot of branding talent. That's why she makes a ton of money. Obviously the sex tape is what brought her some fame, but she has worked to make a brand and capitalize on it.




I think it's a problem that "branding talent"is a thing and that it can make someone rich.


You got a problem city slicker???
maybe someone more familiar with the law can answer  
J : 8/30/2016 6:11 pm : link
what does it mean if you're a felon and cops retrieve guns from your house?
RE: maybe someone more familiar with the law can answer  
j_rud : 8/30/2016 6:13 pm : link
In comment 13095109 J said:
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what does it mean if you're a felon and cops retrieve guns from your house?


I think the legal term for that is "you f*cked". Taken from the Latin.
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J : 8/30/2016 6:14 pm : link
In comment 13095111 j_rud said:
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what does it mean if you're a felon and cops retrieve guns from your house?



I think the legal term for that is "you f*cked". Taken from the Latin.


:)
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Modus Operandi : 8/30/2016 6:57 pm : link
In comment 13095111 j_rud said:
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what does it mean if you're a felon and cops retrieve guns from your house?



I think the legal term for that is "you f*cked". Taken from the Latin.


Proper fucked.

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j_rud : 8/30/2016 7:06 pm : link
In comment 13095161 Modus Operandi said:
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what does it mean if you're a felon and cops retrieve guns from your house?



I think the legal term for that is "you f*cked". Taken from the Latin.



Proper fucked.



Ya like dags?
Throw his ass in jail  
Kivorkian : 8/30/2016 8:24 pm : link
He's a menace to women.
RE: Throw his ass in jail  
Patrick77 : 8/30/2016 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13095261 Kivorkian said:
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He's a menace to women.


Yeah but he can sing and dance. He ain't going to jail.
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SomeFan : 8/30/2016 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13094994 Deej said:
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Some of our wealthiest, most well known "national treasures" would lose a basic knowledge contest to a hamster. This is America, having a sex tape can provide enough fame to ensure 3 generations of nieces and nephews won't ever have to work a real job. Land of the free bitches!



Unpopular take, but Kim K actually has a lot of branding talent. That's why she makes a ton of money. Obviously the sex tape is what brought her some fame, but she has worked to make a brand and capitalize on it.

Anyway, we can begrudge a lot of people for how they got rich. How many rich people are rich because their parents were rich? Where is the nobility in being rich because some ancestor owned land, ships, trains, or other human beings?


Not many
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