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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/1/2016 6:50 pm
Not playing tonight...

NEW YORK GIANTS

QB Eli Manning
WR Odell Beckham Jr.
OL Weston Richburg
TE Will Johnson
CB Janoris Jenkins
CB Leon Hall
S Darian Thompson
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
LB Jonathan Casillas
LB Jasper Brinkley
DE Olivier Vernon
DE Jason Pierre-Paul
LB B.J. Goodson
DT Johnathan Hankins
DT Damon Harrison
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Way to hustle  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:40 pm : link
Stansley
Herz just exudes the suck  
RobCarpenter : 9/1/2016 9:41 pm : link
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Well, that was dumb  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 9:41 pm : link
Risky Rainey
Rainey took a shot there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:42 pm : link
Man, if STs continue to suck this year, that would be quite annoying..
Hart's looked terrible.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:43 pm : link
No mobility for an OT, and was awful at LG last week. Not sure who our OL reserves are gonna be, but I'm hoping that we bring in some vets who can still play off waivers.
Question what  
XBRONX : 9/1/2016 9:43 pm : link
OL player has shown the most improvement under Solari?
Logan Thomas in.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:43 pm : link
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RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
santacruzom : 9/1/2016 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13099034 mushroom said:
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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game


Darkwa seems to be the back who most consistently moves defenders backwards and surges through piles... how is he less of a power back than Williams?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13099086 Mason said:
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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game



Williams got in for two snaps. One he powers through the defense for 7 yards on his own. And on the 2nd he has to key block to let Nassib get the pass off to King for the TD. It was like night and day.



Yes against guys who will be flipping burgers next week



yawn... against the same guys you said Perkins was impressive against except he wasn't and cause him to fumble.

Try again.


Factually incorrect. Other than that.....
Logan  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 9:44 pm : link
Thomas is in at QB. Va. Tech product. That should make Greg from LI happy.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13099099 AP in Halfmoon said:
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In comment 13099060 Mason said:


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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game



Williams got in for two snaps. One he powers through the defense for 7 yards on his own. And on the 2nd he has to key block to let Nassib get the pass off to King for the TD. It was like night and day.



Yes against guys who will be flipping burgers next week



yawn... against the same guys you said Perkins was impressive against except he wasn't and cause him to fumble.

Try again.



Factually incorrect. Other than that.....


okay. sure champ.
Way to go, Logan.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:46 pm : link
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Rainey> Williams  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:49 pm : link
Pass receiving and Return ability ....
Better Runner ...
Wow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
Nice pass and catch right there.
Lewis ...Nice Play Bro ....  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
He needed that ...
Lewis  
DavidinBMNY : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
Finally. He is a much better on that type of route.
Needs..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
to work on a better celebration!
Rainey has definitely  
EricJ : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
impressed enough to make SOMEONE'S roster after tonight's performance.
Nice  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
throw and catch from Logan to Lewis.
Great throw!!  
dune69 : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
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Well, Thomas has the much better arm.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
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amazing throw  
chris r : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
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RE: Rainey> Williams  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:52 pm : link
In comment 13099109 Bluesbreaker said:
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Pass receiving and Return ability ....
Better Runner ...


And blocker
nice play  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/1/2016 9:52 pm : link
why isn't Logan starting?
Nice to see Lewis flash his potential  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 9:53 pm : link
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Looks more like Williams is competing  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 9:54 pm : link
against Rainey to me. Both may be fighting for their next team.
Is Logan PS eligible ?  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:55 pm : link
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RE: Looks more like Williams is competing  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:56 pm : link
In comment 13099132 USAF NYG Fan said:
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against Rainey to me. Both may be fighting for their next team.


I doubt it. Both have been good tonight though.
Also don't assume Jennings is a sure thing.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:58 pm : link
Last year should be evident for anyone who remembers.
RE: Hart's looked terrible.  
section125 : 9/1/2016 10:00 pm : link
In comment 13099095 yatqb said:
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No mobility for an OT, and was awful at LG last week. Not sure who our OL reserves are gonna be, but I'm hoping that we bring in some vets who can still play off waivers.


I strongly disagree. He screwed up a few plays, but he played pretty well. Mingo gave him a hard time, he's very fast.
What he does do is drop back to deep and then sets against a moving target. He's out of his stance quickly but drops back about 3 yds, stops and lets the DE get a head of steam. He's plenty quick for a tackle.
They just cutoff the final 2 minutes  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 10:01 pm : link
to see if Kaep was going to be sitting down during the anthem? WTF!
RE: Also don't assume Jennings is a sure thing.  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13099138 Mason said:
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Last year should be evident for anyone who remembers.


What? Coughlin handcuffed him to sharing time. Only when the season was basically over did the Giants start running the ball well with 1 back. The way it should have been.
Hope  
Kivorka : 9/1/2016 10:02 pm : link
Rainey makes the team. Probably the quickest running back on the roster. Reminds me of Darren Sproles
Just a thought  
Marty866b : 9/1/2016 10:02 pm : link
I wonder if Kennard gets cut. He hasn't shown he can stay healthy and he has been invisible this preseason. If the Giants want to get faster on defense,Kennard doesn't help that cause.
RE: Hope  
Fish : 9/1/2016 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13099152 Kivorka said:
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Rainey makes the team. Probably the quickest running back on the roster. Reminds me of Darren Sproles


Hope he makes it as well.


Also does Andre Williams ever kick it outside
Who's the guy with  
section125 : 9/1/2016 10:07 pm : link
Willie McGinest on NFL Network..\
RE: Just a thought  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 13099153 Marty866b said:
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I wonder if Kennard gets cut. He hasn't shown he can stay healthy and he has been invisible this preseason. If the Giants want to get faster on defense,Kennard doesn't help that cause.


I feel like this would only be a thing if you could argue that there was a better option for his position.

If your concern is speed, I don't think JT Thomas is faster. They have MLBs to spare, but that wouldn't be speed either.
King has been very good  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 10:07 pm : link
covering Kick offs and Punts ....
missed the first half - did Beatty play at all tonight?  
Del Shofner : 9/1/2016 10:07 pm : link
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RE: RE: Also don't assume Jennings is a sure thing.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13099150 mattlawson said:
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Last year should be evident for anyone who remembers.



What? Coughlin handcuffed him to sharing time. Only when the season was basically over did the Giants start running the ball well with 1 back. The way it should have been.


I'm talking about Jameel McClain. One moment he was a guarantee starter doing an interview with Bruce Beck on Thursday about the upcoming season and cut on Saturday.
Did i read  
dep026 : 9/1/2016 10:09 pm : link
that flowers struggled, again?
RE: Did i read  
section125 : 9/1/2016 10:10 pm : link
In comment 13099181 dep026 said:
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that flowers struggled, again?


Yeah the 1st line wasn't too good again.
RE: Did i read  
BigBlueShock : 9/1/2016 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13099181 dep026 said:
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that flowers struggled, again?

Yes. He struggled again. I have to admit, I've been in Flowers' corner, but damn, I'm starting to get concerned. I hope he proves us all wrong.
RE: They just cutoff the final 2 minutes  
short lease : 9/1/2016 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13099148 USAF NYG Fan said:
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to see if Kaep was going to be sitting down during the anthem? WTF!


He did (sit) ... Call me characterless but, I don't understand why one would jeopardize future earnings as a spokesman (for whatever - even local markets pay pretty well to big name athletes) - like he did. I don't think he thought it all out. There are other ways to stage a protest without being so polarizing. One freak injury and career over. Even if he retires normally - he still has to find a job after football. I hope he saves his money.
Wow - not a single roster decision settled by injury!  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/1/2016 10:12 pm : link
That has to be the biggest story of the pre-season.

(I guess you could point to Stingily, but Beatty looks like an upgrade anyway.)
TTH  
Marty866b : 9/1/2016 10:12 pm : link
Yeah but I wouldn't count too much on Kennard. He hasn't been healthy going back to high school where he tore up his knee as a junior and was constantly hurt at USC.
RE: Who's the guy with  
Saos1n : 9/1/2016 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13099171 section125 said:
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Willie McGinest on NFL Network..\


Heath Evans

Former FB for the Seahawks, Saints, Dolphins and Patriots
RE: They just cutoff the final 2 minutes  
Mike in Philly : 9/1/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13099148 USAF NYG Fan said:
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to see if Kaep was going to be sitting down during the anthem? WTF!

Agreed. That was BS. I turned if off and going to bed. So sick and tired of hearing about the Kaep crap...
RE: They just cutoff the final 2 minutes  
bob_in_ec : 9/1/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13099148 USAF NYG Fan said:
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to see if Kaep was going to be sitting down during the anthem? WTF!


I'm really pissed - I watched the game for three hours and
they cutoff the final 2 minutes to show a player siting during the national anthem and then just blabbed on about nothing in particular.
Not on the local Chanel in CT  
Carl in CT : 9/1/2016 10:30 pm : link
They showed the whole game.
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