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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/1/2016 6:50 pm
Not playing tonight...

NEW YORK GIANTS

QB Eli Manning
WR Odell Beckham Jr.
OL Weston Richburg
TE Will Johnson
CB Janoris Jenkins
CB Leon Hall
S Darian Thompson
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
LB Jonathan Casillas
LB Jasper Brinkley
DE Olivier Vernon
DE Jason Pierre-Paul
LB B.J. Goodson
DT Johnathan Hankins
DT Damon Harrison
With that lineup  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/1/2016 6:52 pm : link
is there any reason to watch?
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/1/2016 6:53 pm : link
does that mean  
Dankbeerman : 9/1/2016 6:59 pm : link
brinkley Won the job
Gotta get looks at some of these guys.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 7:00 pm : link
I'm interested in seeing a bunch of them.
RE: does that mean  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/1/2016 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13098463 Dankbeerman said:
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brinkley Won the job


Brinkley is hurt. See game preview.
RE: With that lineup  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13098453 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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is there any reason to watch?

IMHO, with the image file Eric just dropped, there are several players there I want to take a look at.
Game time!  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:01 pm : link
.
.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:02 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 40s40 seconds ago
I'm told Will Beatty will not play tonight as expected. #Giants
Why  
JoshB : 9/1/2016 7:03 pm : link
Is it always the opposing teams broadcast?
Brady in  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/1/2016 7:03 pm : link
Haha this may be funny
Nothing but patriot cocksucking on NFLN.  
Jints in Carolina : 9/1/2016 7:03 pm : link
.
Put  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:04 pm : link
me in coach!
When does the actual game start.  
Jints in Carolina : 9/1/2016 7:06 pm : link
I'm dying with this Willie McGinnis and Heath Evans lovemaking
RE: .  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:06 pm : link
In comment 13098470 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 40s40 seconds ago
I'm told Will Beatty will not play tonight as expected. #Giants

That's disappointing.
The kid singing the National Anthem  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:08 pm : link
Is the exact image I have made up in my mind for Eric.
Perfect  
ctc in ftmyers : 9/1/2016 7:08 pm : link
what a game 4 preseason game is for.

Evaluating the last spots.

I figured a series. This is better.
Mute the Patriots stream  
madgiantscow009 : 9/1/2016 7:08 pm : link
and listen to the Met broadcast while watching the Giants, not a bad three hours.
Cruz playing 2 series tonight  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:08 pm : link
per WFAN.
...  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:09 pm : link
Tom Rock‏ @TomRock_Newsday
Vereen, King, Nassib, Wing, Kennard and Collins are the captains. Almost-Giant Devin McCourty reps the Pats.
Very happy the Yanks aren't playing tonight.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:09 pm : link
Get to watch this uninterrupted.
Link to game?  
rebel yell : 9/1/2016 7:10 pm : link
Anybody?
Ball knocked away from Cruz.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:10 pm : link
.
Jennings  
Mike in NY : 9/1/2016 7:10 pm : link
With no room to run
3rd and long  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:11 pm : link
... Smh
3rd  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:11 pm : link
and 14. We've got them exactly where we want them.
RE: Ball knocked away from Cruz.  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13098485 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Malcolm Butler all over Cruz.. Zero seperation, Butler didn't even have to turn his head to deflect that.
Nassib sacked.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:12 pm : link
OLine continues to be scary bad.
Ereck Flowers  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:12 pm : link
Sack Allowed.
Oh My....  
Jim Burt64 : 9/1/2016 7:12 pm : link
Tackles BLOW
Flowers got beat on that.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:12 pm : link
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Flowers  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:12 pm : link
was beaten badly to the inside.
Nassib steps into the pressure  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 7:12 pm : link
Inexperience showing
Flowers  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 7:12 pm : link
Ugh
3 and Out  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:13 pm : link
Brady starts at the 45.
That was as vanilla as it gets and he still got beat badly.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:13 pm : link
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Starting D continues to look very good.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:14 pm : link
Big hit on Brady.
Good Read on screen pass  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:14 pm : link
From Wade. Tackle for loss. Eli Apple with good coverage on deep pass.
Ok the Boston feed must be on delay  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 7:14 pm : link
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Lots  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:14 pm : link
of pressure on Brady.
RE: That was as vanilla as it gets and he still got beat badly.  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 7:14 pm : link
In comment 13098498 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I thought he was saving it for the season?

Guys just getting blown up out there. Pugh blown up the play before.
Holding  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:15 pm : link
Defense Kelvin Sheppard.
RE: Starting D continues to look very good.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:15 pm : link
In comment 13098499 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Big hit on Brady.


The starters are not playing. That's Kerry Wynn out there.
holding on Sheppard.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:15 pm : link
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So far we have Pugh and Flowers whooped  
SwirlingEddie : 9/1/2016 7:15 pm : link
Who's next?
Nat Berhe  
Mike in NY : 9/1/2016 7:15 pm : link
Nice job separating WR from ball
Brady going off on his OLine alittle bit.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
Would love to see that from Eli. It's warranted.
Nice hit Wynn.  
madgiantscow009 : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
Like Wynn in the rotation, he is missing a half step from being a pretty good DE.
...  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
Nat Berhe maybe changing my opinion on his roster status..
Wade with the INT.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
Nice.
Defense has me excited.  
NorwoodWideRight : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
The OL makes me want to puke.
Great  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
pick by Wade.
Ok,  
Jim Burt64 : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
Well the Pats look like shit too :)
Wade  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
A man possessed
...  
Man In The Box : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
Nice series for Wade
Great stick by Berhe, not worried about our top 3 safeties at all  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 7:16 pm : link
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2 nice plays by Wade  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:17 pm : link
that possession.
RE: Defense has me excited.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13098513 NorwoodWideRight said:
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The OL makes me want to puke.


Backup D!

;)
RE: Defense has me excited.  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/1/2016 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13098513 NorwoodWideRight said:
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The OL makes me want to puke.


Sounds about right. D looks fast. Not sure if that means anything right now
Wow Wade!  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:17 pm : link
Great pick on Brady! And he blew up a screen pass on first down. That's how you guarentee your roster spot, good work.
Someone refresh my memory  
wonderback : 9/1/2016 7:17 pm : link
Why didn't the Giants sign Martellus Bennet as a free agent?
2nd good play by Wade  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:17 pm : link
trying to make a statement here.
RE: So far we have Pugh and Flowers whooped  
section125 : 9/1/2016 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13098507 SwirlingEddie said:
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Who's next?


It was Newhouse's man that sacked Nassib.
These Patriot  
JoshB : 9/1/2016 7:17 pm : link
Commentators are embarrassing
RE: Someone refresh my memory  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13098523 wonderback said:
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Why didn't the Giants sign Martellus Bennet as a free agent?

Ask Jerry
o line  
Bubblerjuke : 9/1/2016 7:18 pm : link
Were Pugh and Flowers beat by second stringers?
RE: Someone refresh my memory  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13098523 wonderback said:
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Why didn't the Giants sign Martellus Bennet as a free agent?


Reese was asleep at the wheel again ... ask um, oh hell ask anybody on this page.
RE: RE: So far we have Pugh and Flowers whooped  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13098525 section125 said:
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In comment 13098507 SwirlingEddie said:


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Who's next?



It was Newhouse's man that sacked Nassib.


It was flowers who allowed his man right up the middle.
RE: Why  
Jay in Toronto : 9/1/2016 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13098471 JoshB said:
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Is it always the opposing teams broadcast?


Giants feed on streaming
Awful  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:18 pm : link
Throw from Nassib.
Wynn ....  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 7:19 pm : link
Keeps making plays , good D series 0
Wade Nice Pick ..
My initial thoughts  
SGMen : 9/1/2016 7:19 pm : link
Flowers clearly isn't up to snuff. Commentator Carl Banks notes his technique mistake. This has has been a consistent "bad" and he now has me really worried. Not bust worried, but move to RT and see how it goes worried.

LB Sheppard isn't much in coverage thus the hold.

QB Nassib went deep on a timing route and Cruz was there but so was the DB. His second home run ball to Sterling Shepard, well, the ball went out of bounds but Shepard wasn't open.
Flowers did a job there  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 7:19 pm : link
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RE: Link to game?  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:19 pm : link
In comment 13098484 rebel yell said:
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Anybody?


Try firstrowspots.
Helluva catch by Sheppard.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:20 pm : link
Nice pass, too.
Another good grab by Shep.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:20 pm : link
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We have a Sheperd sighting ....  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:20 pm : link
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That  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:20 pm : link
was a great throw by Nassib. Now off on the next one. Oh well.
Pocket collapsing  
NorwoodWideRight : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
On every single pass play.
Nassib  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
steps right into defenders as he throws.. Not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing but he doesn't avoid anybody, shouldn't be reset his feet and throw?
Nassib gets drilled  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
literally as soon as he gets the snap.

This OLine is troubling. No way around it.
RE: RE: Link to game?  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13098537 AcidTest said:
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In comment 13098484 rebel yell said:


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Anybody?



Try firstrowspots.


firstrowsports
Good grief  
EJV79 : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
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This OL is a joke  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
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The OL is sucking again. Nassib under pressure constantly.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
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Nassib got killed  
Mason : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
smh
They almost intercepted the snap  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
Wow
Holy shit  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:21 pm : link
A hole!!
RE: Someone refresh my memory  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 7:22 pm : link
In comment 13098523 wonderback said:
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Why didn't the Giants sign Martellus Bennet as a free agent?


One of the Patriots beat reporters has speculated this week that he could be a surprise cut because releasing him would save $4.5 million in on the salary cap.



Whoa, Nassib nearly gets killed. This looks like the 2013 line.
Blown  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:22 pm : link
assignment. Nassib almost gets decapitated.
RE: They almost intercepted the snap  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:22 pm : link
In comment 13098550 Joey from GlenCove said:
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Wow


Lmao
Vereen...  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 7:23 pm : link
Does He really need this many touches ?
Draw on 3rd and 20  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:23 pm : link
I just don't get it. At least they are throwing for the most part.
Link to game?  
rebel yell : 9/1/2016 7:23 pm : link
Anybody?
I'm having flashbacks of Dave Brown  
NorwoodWideRight : 9/1/2016 7:23 pm : link
Scrambling for his life and getting buried under a sea of bodies.
RE: Draw on 3rd and 20  
Rflairr : 9/1/2016 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13098556 USAF NYG Fan said:
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I just don't get it. At least they are throwing for the most part.


They love that play. And it never works. NEVER
It's hard to imagine the offensive line got worse  
Annunaki : 9/1/2016 7:24 pm : link
then last year. I didn't even honestly think it was possible.
And it's not just the OL either  
Mason : 9/1/2016 7:24 pm : link
you have HBs and TEs doing a crappy job out there with their pass pro.
Pre-Season MVP Brad Wing, the freaking punter!!!  
SGMen : 9/1/2016 7:24 pm : link
This offense has been awful this and every game they've played.

The blocking is so bad that Nassib was hit in 1 second from the snap, if that. No one touched the guy, loss of 10 yards!!

Oh, and QB Nassib still hasn't looked super sharp. That pass to Donnell was a bit off.
...  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:24 pm : link
‏ @Patricia_Traina
I sure hope the Giants coaches have some creative game planning up their sleeves for this season.
Sep 1, 2016, 7:22 PM
The OL seems to have more problems  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:25 pm : link
Than just a RG or RT?
Brady with all day there..  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:26 pm : link
Eli Apple had great coverage on a drag.
Wynn getting some good pressure on Brady.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:26 pm : link
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RE: The OL seems to have more problems  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13098564 short lease said:
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Than just a RG or RT?


It was Brett Jones at center. Richburg wasn't playing. But that play was still unacceptable.
This D could be pretty deep.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 7:28 pm : link
Some of the scrubs look decent.
Collins with a near pick.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:28 pm : link
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Collins drops  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:28 pm : link
Another Brady pass.
Collins is a moron.  
Annunaki : 9/1/2016 7:29 pm : link
I don't like that kid.
Collins nearly with the INT on Brady  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 7:29 pm : link
where have we seen that before.
Gotta make that play?  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 7:29 pm : link
Is Banks kidding.
RE: Collins is a moron.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:29 pm : link
In comment 13098573 Annunaki said:
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I don't like that kid.

This is a dumb take.
The look on Brady's face is like  
Mason : 9/1/2016 7:30 pm : link
get me out of this game.



Damn Collins miss an INT again from Brady.
My opinion of this defense:  
NorwoodWideRight : 9/1/2016 7:30 pm : link
Fast, tight, quick to get to the ball, ball hawks. Impressive up front, creating great pressure.
RE: Collins drops  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13098572 est1986 said:
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Another Brady pass.

The pass was behind him.
RE: Collins is a moron.  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13098573 Annunaki said:
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I don't like that kid.

He's had a great pre-season so far IMHO.
Can this offense go 98 yards?  
SGMen : 9/1/2016 7:31 pm : link
LOL.

But seriously, can we at least get a "drive" together? Is a first down asking too much?

RE: Collins is a moron.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 7:31 pm : link
In comment 13098573 Annunaki said:
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I don't like that kid.


Now we can't let this post go without drawing some attention to it. Please go on.
RE: RE: The OL seems to have more problems  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:31 pm : link
In comment 13098568 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13098564 short lease said:


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Than just a RG or RT?



It was Brett Jones at center. Richburg wasn't playing. But that play was still unacceptable.


Thanks TTH - wasn't aware of the line-up changes.
Brady is literally getting hit  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:31 pm : link
by our mostly 2nd string D, mixed with some starters in there. It's like our D, no matter what year, just always has a nose for Brady. It's weird. But I like it.
Eli apple looks  
Rflairr : 9/1/2016 7:31 pm : link
so smooth out there
Didn't we just watch Pats 1st team offense  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:31 pm : link
against the Giants 2nd team defense?
Hart-gettis-jones-cleary-Seymour OL in  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:32 pm : link
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Jones sure looks small at C.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 7:32 pm : link
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Newhouse, Pugh, Flowers are out.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:32 pm : link
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RE: RE: Collins is a moron.  
Annunaki : 9/1/2016 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13098581 USAF NYG Fan said:
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In comment 13098573 Annunaki said:


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I don't like that kid.


He's had a great pre-season so far IMHO.



I hope he has because I liked the kid coming out but last year put a real bitter taste in my mouth. I was mostly just joking about not liking him I just knew it would bring about the butthurt fans who are always so uptight. Haha Anyway he disappoints me alot, seemed like every game last year.
RE: Didn't we just watch Pats 1st team offense  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13098587 USAF NYG Fan said:
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against the Giants 2nd team defense?


Mostly yes. LB and DL have all been second string.
YOU Sir are a MORON....!!  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 7:33 pm : link
Collins is a moron.
Annunaki : 7:29 pm : link : reply
I don't like that kid.

Go Away
RE: Eli apple looks  
Jim Burt64 : 9/1/2016 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13098586 Rflairr said:
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so smooth out there


Agree - eating my hat thus far on the pick,, kid looks really good
Our back-up DE's  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:34 pm : link
Kerry Wynn (LE) and Owamagbe Odighizuwa (RE) are better than a lot of teams starting DE's . . . (hemhemCowboys)
Brad Wing perhaps getting the most amount of work  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:34 pm : link
for a Punter in pre-season history. Good grief.
RE: RE: Eli apple looks  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13098596 Jim Burt64 said:
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so smooth out there



Agree - eating my hat thus far on the pick,, kid looks really good


A bit surprised they put him right out there on Edelman. Shows a lot of confidence.
RE: RE: Collins drops  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13098580 jeff57 said:
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Another Brady pass.


The pass was behind him.


It would have been a tough catch.
Nassib  
Marty866b : 9/1/2016 7:35 pm : link
He looks beyond awful. Are there any veterans out there looking for a job. We could never win a game if Nassib has to play.
RE: RE: RE: Collins is a moron.  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13098591 Annunaki said:
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In comment 13098581 USAF NYG Fan said:


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In comment 13098573 Annunaki said:


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I don't like that kid.


He's had a great pre-season so far IMHO.




I hope he has because I liked the kid coming out but last year put a real bitter taste in my mouth. I was mostly just joking about not liking him I just knew it would bring about the butthurt fans who are always so uptight. Haha Anyway he disappoints me alot, seemed like every game last year.

He was played out of position last year at FS. He has played and will be playing at SS this year. That's where he belongs and I think it already shows.
Darkwa was  
JoshB : 9/1/2016 7:35 pm : link
Diving forwards before he even came into contact with a defender on both runs..
That's an easy fumble.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:36 pm : link
Not sure how the ref misses that one. Geez.
That's Blue ball.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:36 pm : link
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The Boston feed is awful  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 7:36 pm : link
They cut to the studio when the Giants have the ball. It's the worst homerism I've ever seen.
That looks like a fumble.  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:36 pm : link
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That  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
is a FUMBLE!!!!!!!!
Didn't the rule change so that  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
can be challenged?
Adams Another good Play  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
I hope thys find a spot for him .
Apple and Collins are now out.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
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wow how bad is that official?  
nygiants16 : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
if you cant see that you should not be an official
What is that ref looking at there?  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
Jesus. That's not even close.

Watch them call it no catch because the ref is an idiot.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Collins is a moron.  
Annunaki : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13098603 USAF NYG Fan said:
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In comment 13098581 USAF NYG Fan said:


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In comment 13098573 Annunaki said:


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I don't like that kid.


He's had a great pre-season so far IMHO.




I hope he has because I liked the kid coming out but last year put a real bitter taste in my mouth. I was mostly just joking about not liking him I just knew it would bring about the butthurt fans who are always so uptight. Haha Anyway he disappoints me alot, seemed like every game last year.


He was played out of position last year at FS. He has played and will be playing at SS this year. That's where he belongs and I think it already shows.


I haven't seen much preseason this year so I haven't watched much of him. As for last year I hate excuses like that even if it is true. Bottom line he was looking like a bust last I say him, I hope for his sake and mine he plays better this year.
Nassib blows  
Jim Burt64 : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
But unfort, he is safe
RE: wow how bad is that official?  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13098613 nygiants16 said:
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if you cant see that you should not be an official


It's pretty scary.
Incredible  
Marty866b : 9/1/2016 7:38 pm : link
How can an NFL ref be that bad? Down by contact? Wow!
RE: wow how bad is that official?  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13098613 nygiants16 said:
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if you cant see that you should not be an official

Right? Not even close. Bennett was still upright when he lost the ball.
I predict our +/- TO ratio  
NorwoodWideRight : 9/1/2016 7:38 pm : link
I'd going to be pretty high this year.
.  
JoshB : 9/1/2016 7:38 pm : link
"That's a good call" whoever this Patriots commentator is.. He needs to find himself a new job. First he was bitching about the interception not being flagged for PI, then that
It's clearly a fumble  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:39 pm : link
But why does it take our guys so long to get on the god damn ball!? It's like 6 blue jerseys and one white jersey (Bennett) trampled underneath someone. It seems like four of guys missed it.
RE: Nassib blows  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13098616 Jim Burt64 said:
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But unfort, he is safe


You blow. But you still post.
Nassib can't keep the long ball in bounds  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:39 pm : link
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Every  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:39 pm : link
third play is a deep pass down the right sideline.
B-r-u-t-a-l.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:40 pm : link
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Lmao  
Nick in LA : 9/1/2016 7:40 pm : link
Wow
Oh, Ryan...  
bceagle05 : 9/1/2016 7:40 pm : link
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Nassib is awful  
chris r : 9/1/2016 7:40 pm : link
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Jesus  
Jim Burt64 : 9/1/2016 7:40 pm : link
NASSIB SUCKS... Throw the fuckin ball... to someone OR away!!
Good hustle  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:40 pm : link
From Darkwa to recover that.
WTF  
wonderback : 9/1/2016 7:40 pm : link
What value is there in running the same play over and over.
That  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:41 pm : link
was really bad by Nassib. Held the ball way too long, and then didn't take the sack.
Darkwa blown up there  
EJV79 : 9/1/2016 7:41 pm : link
.
Giants have practiced that go route  
SwirlingEddie : 9/1/2016 7:41 pm : link
The times now
God, I can't wait for the day Nassib  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:41 pm : link
is gone from this team forever.

Meanwhile, King nearly gets his head knocked off. Trashbag play right there.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Collins is a moron.  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13098603 USAF NYG Fan said:
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In comment 13098581 USAF NYG Fan said:


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I don't like that kid.


He's had a great pre-season so far IMHO.




I hope he has because I liked the kid coming out but last year put a real bitter taste in my mouth. I was mostly just joking about not liking him I just knew it would bring about the butthurt fans who are always so uptight. Haha Anyway he disappoints me alot, seemed like every game last year.


He was played out of position last year at FS. He has played and will be playing at SS this year. That's where he belongs and I think it already shows.


I think Collins has had a very good pre-season. Can't wait to get Thompson back and have those 2 work together for the foreseeable future. Could be a great tandem.
Jesus  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:41 pm : link
Christ
oy  
gtt350 : 9/1/2016 7:41 pm : link
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Perkins  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:42 pm : link
fumbles. Game is terrible.
Perkins with the fumble, NE recovers.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:42 pm : link
Not a good sign for him. His 2nd fumble of the pre-season.
Now perkins fumbles  
EJV79 : 9/1/2016 7:42 pm : link
.
This  
Nick in LA : 9/1/2016 7:42 pm : link
Is hard to watch
RE: RE: Nassib blows  
Annunaki : 9/1/2016 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13098624 B in ALB said:
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But unfort, he is safe



You blow. But you still post.


Hahaha I love the butthurt fans. Lighten the fuck up bro
RE: RE: Nassib blows  
Jim Burt64 : 9/1/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13098624 B in ALB said:
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In comment 13098616 Jim Burt64 said:


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But unfort, he is safe



You blow. But you still post.


As do you Sweetheart... give us a kiss u douche
Masson looks like  
kevken60 : 9/1/2016 7:43 pm : link
he's never played an NFL snap in his life.
Wanted to see more Perkins but he sure doesn't help his cause does he?
Perkins may never see the field  
EJV79 : 9/1/2016 7:43 pm : link
.
Concerned about Perkins  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:43 pm : link
I had bigger hope for him. Gotta hold onto that ball.
*Nassib  
kevken60 : 9/1/2016 7:45 pm : link
Not Masson damn autocorrect
RE: Apple and Collins are now out.  
feelflows : 9/1/2016 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13098612 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Thank goodness...Collins sucks. I don't like that kid.

ha
Shepherd beaten  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 7:46 pm : link
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Apple has looked solid the past two weeks  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 7:46 pm : link
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Is it just me  
santacruzom : 9/1/2016 7:46 pm : link
Or had our tackling improved team-wide?
RE: RE: Apple and Collins are now out.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:47 pm : link
In comment 13098655 feelflows said:
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Thank goodness...Collins sucks. I don't like that kid.

ha


Apple back in now. Was just going off a Pat Traina tweet. Weird.
RE: Is it just me  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:47 pm : link
In comment 13098658 santacruzom said:
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Or had our tackling improved team-wide?


Yup.
RE: Is it just me  
NorwoodWideRight : 9/1/2016 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13098658 santacruzom said:
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Or had our tackling improved team-wide?


It's not just you.
I am shocked this game is scoreless  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:48 pm : link
with the Defensive personnel that are on the field right now.
Perkins looks special to me  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 7:48 pm : link
They'll fix the fumbles.
It's easy to get excited about Apple  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:48 pm : link
But then again he's one of only 2 top ten picks we have had in a decade.
RE: Is it just me  
Jim Burt64 : 9/1/2016 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13098658 santacruzom said:
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Or had our tackling improved team-wide?


Seems like it!
RE: I am shocked this game is scoreless  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:49 pm : link
In comment 13098662 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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with the Defensive personnel that are on the field right now.


Spoke literally 1 second too soon.

:)
Missed pickup by Apple  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:49 pm : link
too bad. Hasn't made too many mistakes.
RE: Is it just me  
short lease : 9/1/2016 7:49 pm : link
In comment 13098658 santacruzom said:
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Or had our tackling improved team-wide?


It is the McAdoo effect.
Was that a pick play?  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 7:49 pm : link
I didn't get a good look at the TD.
RE: RE: I am shocked this game is scoreless  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13098666 Dave in Hoboken said:
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with the Defensive personnel that are on the field right now.



Spoke literally 1 second too soon.

:)


Still pretty impressive it took this long!
Damn Bill pulling out all the tricks tonight  
Mason : 9/1/2016 7:50 pm : link
lol
Yeah pick play.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:50 pm : link
.
RE: Was that a pick play?  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13098669 David in LA said:
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I didn't get a good look at the TD.

That seems to be what the Pats do anymore. Legal picks or illegal picks. It's what they do.
There's one of those  
kevken60 : 9/1/2016 7:50 pm : link
"teaching moments " for Eli Apple
eh  
feelflows : 9/1/2016 7:50 pm : link
I'm not worried about Apple. That will happen as he learns.
RE: Was that a pick play?  
est1986 : 9/1/2016 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13098669 David in LA said:
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I didn't get a good look at the TD.


Yes. He mistakenly backed off instead of playing close.
Belichick  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:51 pm : link
goes for two.
Okwara  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 7:51 pm : link
getting the pressure on Brady there on the 2 point attempt

Rainey looking good in the return game this preseason.
RE: RE: Was that a pick play?  
Mason : 9/1/2016 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13098673 USAF NYG Fan said:
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I didn't get a good look at the TD.


That seems to be what the Pats do anymore. Legal picks or illegal picks. It's what they do.


Pats ran pick plays through that whole drive. Bill pulling all the plays out tonight. Two point conversion. He's working on it all. That's HOF coaching there.
Rainey  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 7:52 pm : link
Another nice return ...
He will be a tough cut IMO
Quick obs so far:  
section125 : 9/1/2016 7:53 pm : link
Kelvin Sheppard 91 can't cover

Donte Deayon 38 looks lost

Stanley Maponga 71 Does not maintain his lane and allows the QB to get outside the pocket
Nassib is a fucking trainwreck  
EJV79 : 9/1/2016 7:53 pm : link
.
Nassib  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 7:54 pm : link
Chewing on the ball ..Indecicsive ..
Darkwa  
Mike in NY : 9/1/2016 7:55 pm : link
Passing Andre Williams
Darkwa pushing the pile  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 7:55 pm : link
good to see a Giants RB do that
RE: Quick obs so far:  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13098687 section125 said:
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Kelvin Sheppard 91 can't cover



Accurate. Him in coverage is a mismatch. I'm pretty sure he is a MLB by trade.
Did we just have consecutive running plays for positive....  
Crispino : 9/1/2016 7:56 pm : link
yards?! Wow!
It amazes me how critical some are of Nassib when our  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/1/2016 7:56 pm : link
starter looked like garbage much of the preseason too. Is there a common denominator there?
If  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:56 pm : link
we cut Darkwa, someone will pick him up. He runs hard. Maybe the Redskins. They have a lot of injuries at RB.
I like Darkwa. Seems to me he deserves a roster spot.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 7:56 pm : link
Only 24, quick to the hole and can catch the ball.
RE: If  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 7:57 pm : link
In comment 13098700 AcidTest said:
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we cut Darkwa, someone will pick him up. He runs hard. Maybe the Redskins. They have a lot of injuries at RB.

I still prefer him over Williams for this offense.
RE: RE: RE: Was that a pick play?  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 9/1/2016 7:57 pm : link
In comment 13098681 Mason said:
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I didn't get a good look at the TD.


That seems to be what the Pats do anymore. Legal picks or illegal picks. It's what they do.



Pats ran pick plays through that whole drive. Bill pulling all the plays out tonight. Two point conversion. He's working on it all. That's HOF coaching there.


Had to give Golden Boy a good feeling before he takes a powder.
Nassib nearly killed again  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 7:57 pm : link
my goodness
RE: Nassib is a fucking trainwreck  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/1/2016 7:58 pm : link
In comment 13098689 EJV79 said:
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Is there any chance they can cut him. Or would that just be nuts.
You  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 7:58 pm : link
can see the blood on the back of Nassib's arm.
Darkwa making himself hard to ignore..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:58 pm : link
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King has a great  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 7:59 pm : link
10 yard burst.
Gotta catch that one.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 7:59 pm : link
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...Perkins may be a redshirt.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 7:59 pm : link
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Jesus christ perkins  
EJV79 : 9/1/2016 7:59 pm : link
.
Bad  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:00 pm : link
drop by Perkins. I know he's a lock, but it's been a rough preseason for him.
Really good read there by Nassib  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:00 pm : link
Perkins with the butterfingers.

Nice 3rd down pick up by Nassib and King.
RE: King has a great  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 8:00 pm : link
In comment 13098709 B in ALB said:
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10 yard burst.


Nice to see. I can't see this kid not making the roster.
RE: King has a great  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 8:00 pm : link
In comment 13098709 B in ALB said:
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10 yard burst.


Very similar to Lucky Whitehead of the Cowboys when they run that jet sweep play.
in perkins defense  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/1/2016 8:00 pm : link
it's hard to catch when it hits both your hands
I don't get what happened to Nassib.  
NorwoodWideRight : 9/1/2016 8:01 pm : link
There were a lot of folks on here hoping we wouldn't lose him next year. He had some potential. A rocket arm, can scramble a bit, mostly good decisions. You can say it's the pressure caused by the OL, but he doesn't look the same to me. He underthew those 3 deep sideline throws, zero touch on the ball. He just looks lost.
Jones got absolutely run over  
shyster : 9/1/2016 8:01 pm : link
on that 3rd down completion to Lewis. Good thing ball got out fast.

I've never seen anything from Jones to make me think he is an NFL player.
Junkball by Nassib, but he was flushed  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:01 pm : link
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RE: RE: King has a great  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13098716 BigBlueinChicago said:
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10 yard burst.



Very similar to Lucky Whitehead of the Cowboys when they run that jet sweep play.


Dave he catches that ball and is straight vertical with his second step. And it's smooth. I like him a lot.
Davis and Williams haven't taken a snap in two weeks  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:01 pm : link
Those two are easily making the roster. LOL besides King Davis has been the best looking WR. I see what McAdoo is doing.

Perkins going to get a scholarship deal I guess because he sure hasn't earned an opportunity based on his play.
You guys are really tough on Nassib  
wonderback : 9/1/2016 8:01 pm : link
He's getting the crap kicked out of him on every play. No one can take that kind of beating and play well. He has no time to make a play. And any sense of timing is completely disrupted. He may not be a good player but no one could play well behind that line.
King has to stick  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 8:01 pm : link
Perkins has been disappointing so far ....
he OLine looks atrocious  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/1/2016 8:02 pm : link
i feel sorry for anybody who has to line up behind them
Has a Giants RB picked up a rusher  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 8:02 pm : link
or blitzer yet? Nassib is getting way too many shots from unblocked rushers
That  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:04 pm : link
was an excellent throw by Nassib.
RE: Has a Giants RB picked up a rusher  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:04 pm : link
In comment 13098728 AP in Halfmoon said:
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or blitzer yet? Nassib is getting way too many shots from unblocked rushers


Darkwa slowed down Collins on one play for a second. Other than that from Jennings to Vereen and Perkins they have all sucked at pass pro tonight. And I've been watching that aspect as well.
Perkins has looked like the best back on the roster  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 8:04 pm : link
As a rusher.
king has to be kept  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:05 pm : link
i mean, come on already.
We  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:05 pm : link
just have no interest in blocking.
RE: RE: If  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13098702 USAF NYG Fan said:
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In comment 13098700 AcidTest said:


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we cut Darkwa, someone will pick him up. He runs hard. Maybe the Redskins. They have a lot of injuries at RB.


I still prefer him over Williams for this offense.


if the skins cut mack brown, i want him
RE: Perkins has looked like the best back on the roster  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:06 pm : link
In comment 13098733 AP in Halfmoon said:
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As a rusher.


I'm assuming this is sarcasm or you need glasses Alice.
Why are we not going for it there  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/1/2016 8:07 pm : link
W/e
Is Bullock the Jared Lorenzen of kickers  
robbieballs2003 : 9/1/2016 8:07 pm : link
?
RE: Has a Giants RB picked up a rusher  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 8:07 pm : link
In comment 13098728 AP in Halfmoon said:
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or blitzer yet? Nassib is getting way too many shots from unblocked rushers


Perkins did on the play after he dropped the pass.
RE: RE: Perkins has looked like the best back on the roster  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:07 pm : link
In comment 13098740 Mason said:
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In comment 13098733 AP in Halfmoon said:


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As a rusher.



I'm assuming this is sarcasm or you need glasses Alice.


Well, he has been leading the preseason in fumbles.
RE: Is Bullock the Jared Lorenzen of kickers  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13098743 robbieballs2003 said:
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I was thinking that too.
RE: Why are we not going for it there  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13098742 Joey from GlenCove said:
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W/e

Getting a look at the kicker since he's playing game 1 at least. Although I would have preferred something for King there. Maybe Darkwa.
RE: Why are we not going for it there  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13098742 Joey from GlenCove said:
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W/e


My guess is they want to see more of Bullock.
RE: Why are we not going for it there  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13098742 Joey from GlenCove said:
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W/e


Well, they haven't had many opportunities this preseason to try the field goal operation out because the offense hasn't given them the chance due to their ineptness.
RE: Jones got absolutely run over  
bigbluescot : 9/1/2016 8:09 pm : link
In comment 13098720 shyster said:
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on that 3rd down completion to Lewis. Good thing ball got out fast.

I've never seen anything from Jones to make me think he is an NFL player.


He's too small. You've got to be an excellent player at his size just to be average. The CFL is pretty different for linemen, they can get away with being smaller.
Williams might be in trouble  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:10 pm : link
or Perkins. Darkwa looks good.

T King is a lock.
Brady still in there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:10 pm : link
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RE: Brady still in there.  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 8:11 pm : link
In comment 13098754 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Almost like they're inviting bad luck. I don't get it.
Hunter getting worked  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:12 pm : link
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RE: RE: Brady still in there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:12 pm : link
In comment 13098755 David in LA said:
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In comment 13098754 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Almost like they're inviting bad luck. I don't get it.


Maybe they want to get his as many reps as possible with him missing the first 4 weeks. Still very risky, though.
Bye Hunter  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:13 pm : link
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Giants recover a fumble.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:14 pm : link
And the refs actually call it a fumble, too!
RE: RE: Perkins has looked like the best back on the roster  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 8:14 pm : link
In comment 13098740 Mason said:
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In comment 13098733 AP in Halfmoon said:


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As a rusher.



I'm assuming this is sarcasm or you need glasses Alice.


Nope, he has an incredible burst and is the best pure rusher on the roster.
RE: Giants recover a fumble.  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/1/2016 8:14 pm : link
In comment 13098759 Dave in Hoboken said:
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And the refs actually call it a fumble, too!

lol great job by the refs
Mykelle whiffs on the tackle  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 8:14 pm : link
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Preseason football  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:15 pm : link
and Brady throwing bombs. I'd like to see him get knocked on his ass, hard. Not hurt, just knocked down hard.
Kerry Wynn keeps making plays.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:15 pm : link
Think he is the one who caused the fumble?
Michael Hunter (39)  
OntheRoad : 9/1/2016 8:15 pm : link
is running step for step with the receivers he's covering. He needs work on turning around and playing the ball.
Yep, it was Wynn.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:15 pm : link
.
Perkins  
Marty866b : 9/1/2016 8:16 pm : link
Has the most natural running ability on the team. He doesn't have a history of fumbling. They will fix that.
+2 in turnover margin and can't do shit on offense.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:16 pm : link
.
Whoa,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:19 pm : link
an actual penalty on NE. Didn't think that was possible.
Darkwa is our best runner.  
Crispino : 9/1/2016 8:19 pm : link
He makes yardage in spite of the line play.
Hart beaten bi Mingo  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 8:20 pm : link
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Darkwa  
santacruzom : 9/1/2016 8:20 pm : link
Looks more explosive and decisive than Williams and even Jennings to me.
Our O-line is a travesty  
EJV79 : 9/1/2016 8:20 pm : link
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What was Hart doing so far into the backfield?  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 8:20 pm : link
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He pushed Hart  
wonderback : 9/1/2016 8:20 pm : link
Right into his own backfield. Wow!
Gah, so close.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:21 pm : link
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Curious why you send Davis on a go  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:21 pm : link
He must be the slowest WR on the team.
Just out of Davis' reach  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 8:21 pm : link
That would have been sweet to see.
Davis didn't have a second gear to...  
Crispino : 9/1/2016 8:22 pm : link
go and get that ball. I'll take King over him every day.
RE: Perkins  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13098770 Marty866b said:
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Has the most natural running ability on the team. He doesn't have a history of fumbling. They will fix that.


LOL
he didnt look slow per se  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:22 pm : link
just not enough seperation - neither did cruz though fwiw.
Davis  
Marty866b : 9/1/2016 8:23 pm : link
Hasn't shown anything to make the team IMO unless the Giants think he's a great special teams player.
RE: He pushed Hart  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13098784 wonderback said:
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Right into his own backfield. Wow!


Not so sure that was the total problem. That hand off took too long. Mingo took an inside rush and Hart let him go there. Before the tackle I was thinking, wow why is that handoff taking so long.
Santacruzom  
wonderback : 9/1/2016 8:24 pm : link
You're right! Darkwa is the best runner they've got. Does he block well or catch well? Don't know, but he is the most instinctive runner on the team.
RE: Curious why you send Davis on a go  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13098787 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He must be the slowest WR on the team.


He might be the slowest, and he's certainly not a burner. I don't think he's that slow though, he ran a 4.49 at his pro day (slight adjustment since combine times are slower).
No pressure by the reserve DL.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 8:24 pm : link
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RE: He pushed Hart  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13098784 wonderback said:
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Right into his own backfield. Wow!


I definitely would put him on the bubble. His performance from July to now should earn him that spot.
RE: Curious why you send Davis on a go  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13098787 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He must be the slowest WR on the team.


Agreed.
RE: he didnt look slow per se  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13098793 mattlawson said:
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just not enough seperation - neither did cruz though fwiw.


Cruz had separation. It was underthrown, as usual with Nassib.
Davis slowed down a bit on his route.
Bigblue  
wonderback : 9/1/2016 8:27 pm : link
Disagree. He's still getting beat at the point of attack, slow developing play or not.
Hunter  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:27 pm : link
could end up on the PS. He needs work, but has the size the Giants like.
RE: RE: Perkins  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13098792 Mason said:
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In comment 13098770 Marty866b said:


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Has the most natural running ability on the team. He doesn't have a history of fumbling. They will fix that.



LOL


Great analysis
RE: RE: he didnt look slow per se  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13098805 section125 said:
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In comment 13098793 mattlawson said:


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just not enough seperation - neither did cruz though fwiw.



Cruz had separation. It was underthrown, as usual with Nassib.
Davis slowed down a bit on his route.


Cruz had no separation at all in this game. Butler was running step for step with him.
Subs not doing bad  
ctc in ftmyers : 9/1/2016 8:28 pm : link
against Brady.
RE: Bigblue  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13098808 wonderback said:
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Disagree. He's still getting beat at the point of attack, slow developing play or not.


Had the ball not taken so long to get handed off, Perkins would have been long gone.
RE: RE: RE: Perkins  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13098812 AP in Halfmoon said:
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In comment 13098792 Mason said:


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In comment 13098770 Marty866b said:


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Has the most natural running ability on the team. He doesn't have a history of fumbling. They will fix that.



LOL



Great analysis


The analysis was based on the observation that did not exist in this game. I hope that helps you.
RE: Curious why you send Davis on a go  
HomerJones45 : 9/1/2016 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13098787 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He must be the slowest WR on the team.
He was as fast as King in the 40 and faster in the 20 and the 10, faster in the shuttle and the 3 cone and he is 25 lbs heavier than King. He beats Sheppard in all of those two.

Davis has made the team. King is in desperation mode.
Nice.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:30 pm : link
Brady continuing to feel that pressure.
Wow, Okwara  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:30 pm : link
.
Okwara  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 8:30 pm : link
with the sack. Blowing shit up
RE: Santacruzom  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 8:30 pm : link
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You're right! Darkwa is the best runner they've got. Does he block well or catch well? Don't know, but he is the most instinctive runner on the team.


He's not in Jennings league and Perkins will pass him soon.
Okwara  
wonderback : 9/1/2016 8:30 pm : link
Shows up every game.
Ctc  
Carl in CT : 9/1/2016 8:30 pm : link
Agreed
Okwara is a player  
dpinzow : 9/1/2016 8:30 pm : link
he could be very good with a little development
Okwara seems like he moves very smooth  
short lease : 9/1/2016 8:31 pm : link
for a big guy.
RE: RE: Curious why you send Davis on a go  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:31 pm : link
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He must be the slowest WR on the team.

He was as fast as King in the 40 and faster in the 20 and the 10, faster in the shuttle and the 3 cone and he is 25 lbs heavier than King. He beats Sheppard in all of those two.

Davis has made the team. King is in desperation mode.


You don't have to sell me. King is simply a journeyman. Always felt that way.

Just seems like on that play it's rather like asking a box truck to win a drag race.
RE: RE: Santacruzom  
santacruzom : 9/1/2016 8:32 pm : link
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You're right! Darkwa is the best runner they've got. Does he block well or catch well? Don't know, but he is the most instinctive runner on the team.



He's not in Jennings league and Perkins will pass him soon.


Technically, he is in Jennings' league.
Okwara may be pushing a guy like Wynn off the roster  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/1/2016 8:32 pm : link
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wynn, okwarwa - how many DEs can we stockpile?  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:32 pm : link
hopefully all of em
RE: RE: RE: he didnt look slow per se  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:32 pm : link
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just not enough seperation - neither did cruz though fwiw.



Cruz had separation. It was underthrown, as usual with Nassib.
Davis slowed down a bit on his route.



Cruz had no separation at all in this game. Butler was running step for step with him.


They showed 2 plays with Cruz. The 1st play and one later that Shepard caught for a 1st and Cruz was open underneath, Other than that, I didn't see too many plays that showed anything with Cruz.
RE: RE: RE: he didnt look slow per se  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:32 pm : link
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just not enough seperation - neither did cruz though fwiw.



Cruz had separation. It was underthrown, as usual with Nassib.
Davis slowed down a bit on his route.



Cruz had no separation at all in this game. Butler was running step for step with him.

I personally think Butler is turning into a great CB though.
Donnell looked like he was grabbing his wrist after that catch.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:33 pm : link
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Nice throw there.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 8:33 pm : link
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Donnell  
chris r : 9/1/2016 8:33 pm : link
can do that.
Yep, doctor looking at him on sideline.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:33 pm : link
.
Somersault Larry ...  
short lease : 9/1/2016 8:34 pm : link
looking in mid-season form.
LD  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:34 pm : link
bang
That as a good job by Donnell  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:34 pm : link
To check his route and pick up the rush.

Next play. No way that's a catch.

And now he's hurt.

RE: Okwara may be pushing a guy like Wynn off the roster  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 8:34 pm : link
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Nope. They'll both make it,
Yup LD  
Carl in CT : 9/1/2016 8:34 pm : link
Makes a catch and takes himself out. Normal
Donnell is really something else.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:34 pm : link
Never a dull moment with him.
Okwara  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
was unblocked. Donnell looks OK. He's got his helmet on. Thought that was a drop. Nice throw by Nassib.
Donnell is one of the most awkward  
dune69 : 9/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
football players I've ever watched.
Flloopsy  
Reb8thVA : 9/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
Strikes again
Perkins finally showing something  
EJV79 : 9/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
.
Donnell pounds his injured hand on the turf  
ZogZerg : 9/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
What a clown
lets see this Adams kid.  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
honestly.
Donnell doing the usual drop ball and injures himself play  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
ugg..
Kuhn  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
with the hit.
Nassib sucks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:36 pm : link
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Wow.  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:36 pm : link
The safety read that perfectly. i don't think Nassib ever saw him.
Seemed like to much of  
short lease : 9/1/2016 8:36 pm : link
a crowd there Ryan.
Wow  
Carl in CT : 9/1/2016 8:37 pm : link
Need an FG there! Bad job.
RE: Nassib sucks.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:37 pm : link
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Not on Nassib. Route running issue. Two WRs running in the same route area.
Route mixup there (what was King doing)  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:37 pm : link
Bad throw. Terrible all around.
King was open just underneath there  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:37 pm : link
and he should have went there.
RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
chris r : 9/1/2016 8:37 pm : link
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Not on Nassib. Route running issue. Two WRs running in the same route area.


Did he have to throw it there?
RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:37 pm : link
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Not on Nassib. Route running issue. Two WRs running in the same route area.


Crowded area to throw the ball to, and the Safety read the play the entire time. Nassib didn't even see the guy.
RE: Wow.  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:38 pm : link
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The safety read that perfectly. i don't think Nassib ever saw him.


That was King's fault. He brought the safety into the play. No way he should have been that close to the route by Dabble. If he breaks inside, the safety has to respect that route.
RE: Nassib sucks.  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:38 pm : link
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Watch the play again. Good lord some of you guys are terrible at analyzing football.
RE: RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:38 pm : link
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Not on Nassib. Route running issue. Two WRs running in the same route area.



Did he have to throw it there?


good point. I don't think he saw Davis coming on to mess up the route though.
Practise Squad who ya got ?  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 8:39 pm : link
Adams Perkins Deayon Lewis Powe ...
Who is the 4th DT ?
If King runs his skinny post  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:39 pm : link
It's a TD.
We can only guess but  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 8:39 pm : link
someone ran the wrong route
Nassib for a #1  
Giants2012 : 9/1/2016 8:39 pm : link
is still possible
RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:39 pm : link
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Watch the play again. Good lord some of you guys are terrible at analyzing football.


I saw the play just fine. Crowded area to throw the ball to. Check. Safety read Nassib like a book. Check. Nassib didn't even see the safety coming from a mile away. Check.
RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:39 pm : link
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Watch the play again. Good lord some of you guys are terrible at analyzing football.


Thanks B....Glad you saw that too
Was that King or Davis  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:40 pm : link
but I thought with Randle's departure we were suppose to be rid of route running issues on this team. :)
RE: RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:40 pm : link
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Watch the play again. Good lord some of you guys are terrible at analyzing football.



I saw the play just fine. Crowded area to throw the ball to. Check. Safety read Nassib like a book. Check. Nassib didn't even see the safety coming from a mile away. Check.


Wrong - King did not belong there. Check......
RE: Practise Squad who ya got ?  
jeff57 : 9/1/2016 8:41 pm : link
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Adams Perkins Deayon Lewis Powe ...
Who is the 4th DT ?

Perkins not going on the PS.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:41 pm : link
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Watch the play again. Good lord some of you guys are terrible at analyzing football.



I saw the play just fine. Crowded area to throw the ball to. Check. Safety read Nassib like a book. Check. Nassib didn't even see the safety coming from a mile away. Check.



Wrong - King did not belong there. Check......


Re-read.
welp  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:41 pm : link
see ya King
Perkins playing a little better now.  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:42 pm : link
Maybe he's calming down. Couple good dump off receptions for positive yards. Donnell, no surprise really. Want to see more of Adams instead. Williams hasn't played since pre-season game 2 has he? They are giving Darkwa an chance to pass him? I prefer Darkwa myself. Okarwa (is that right) is making his case. King earning himself a spot I think.
They Will both make it ..  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 8:42 pm : link
Okwara may be pushing a guy like Wynn off the roster
nyjuggernaut2 : 8:32 pm : link : reply

Wynn and Owa are first off the bench ..

The Linebackers will be interesting on who they keep ..

Perkins bouncing back good to see ..
First time I'm saying this but  
Carl in CT : 9/1/2016 8:43 pm : link
Nassib might not be the back up answer. He really has been struggling (yes no line help).
RE: RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:43 pm : link
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Watch the play again. Good lord some of you guys are terrible at analyzing football.



I saw the play just fine. Crowded area to throw the ball to. Check. Safety read Nassib like a book. Check. Nassib didn't even see the safety coming from a mile away. Check.


You don't know how quickly the plays happen on the field do you? It's ok. It's hard to tell from the couch.
I've gotta believe that Williams has made the team already.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 8:43 pm : link
I think that it's between Darkwa and Perkins for the last spot.
RE: RE: Practise Squad who ya got ?  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:44 pm : link
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Adams Perkins Deayon Lewis Powe ...
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Perkins not going on the PS.

I don't think Adams will either. Neither would make it to practice squad. They are draft picks.
Williams getting the starter treatment  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:44 pm : link
I find it more interesting that Jennings was getting more time with the backups this game. People brushed off McAdoo's comments about Williams looking the best after the Dolphins game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
section125 : 9/1/2016 8:44 pm : link
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Watch the play again. Good lord some of you guys are terrible at analyzing football.



I saw the play just fine. Crowded area to throw the ball to. Check. Safety read Nassib like a book. Check. Nassib didn't even see the safety coming from a mile away. Check.



Wrong - King did not belong there. Check......



Re-read.


If King isn't next to Davis, the safety isn't there, he's following King toward the center of the field.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Nassib sucks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:44 pm : link
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Watch the play again. Good lord some of you guys are terrible at analyzing football.



I saw the play just fine. Crowded area to throw the ball to. Check. Safety read Nassib like a book. Check. Nassib didn't even see the safety coming from a mile away. Check.



You don't know how quickly the plays happen on the field do you? It's ok. It's hard to tell from the couch.


I never said I played. Did I? You could still clearly see on the replay that a 2nd or 3rd string Safety read Nassib, from one side of the field to the other, and picked him off. For the record, I never said Nassib was alone in fault on the play. Apologies..
Thoughts  
DavidinBMNY : 9/1/2016 8:44 pm : link
Nassib is much more effective and seems calmer when he is in motion and it's planned.

Darkwa played great.

I think King is making the team.

No idea who the 4th DT or backup OL should be.

RE: RE: Practise Squad who ya got ?  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 8:44 pm : link
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Adams Perkins Deayon Lewis Powe ...
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Perkins not going on the PS.
it sure looks like they're playing Darkwa against Perkins tonight. I think it's between those two, and not Williams, for the final spot.
My take aways are simple  
SGMen : 9/1/2016 8:45 pm : link
Orleans Dwarka, T. King, Okwara have made this team.

Paul Perkins is in the doghouse with fumble and dropped pass.

Erek Flowers still needs a ton of technique work.

WR Victor Cruz didn't make the catch but the speed was there.

QB Nassib should never start a game. Please, he is so limited.

Did I miss anyone?
Jennings, Perkins and Vareen are locks.  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 8:45 pm : link
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RE: I've gotta believe that Williams has made the team already.  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:45 pm : link
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I think that it's between Darkwa and Perkins for the last spot.

Perkins is a draft pick. He'll make the team. It's between Williams and Darkwa.
Do we think anyone else would sign Perkins?  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:46 pm : link
Honestly?
Perkins is on the roster  
ZogZerg : 9/1/2016 8:46 pm : link
some of you are confused.
RE: Do we think anyone else would sign Perkins?  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:46 pm : link
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Honestly?

Yes
If Perkins does lose out  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 8:48 pm : link
And I think he beats out Darkwa because he's a pick, then If I had NFL aspirations, I might think twice bout committing to ucla. They don't do roomies any favors wth their academic schedule.
RE: RE: Wow.  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:48 pm : link
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The safety read that perfectly. i don't think Nassib ever saw him.



That was King's fault. He brought the safety into the play. No way he should have been that close to the route by Dabble. If he breaks inside, the safety has to respect that route.


I agree. It probably was King's fault. My point was only that Nassib never saw the safety that King dragged over. Two receivers in the same area doesn't work.
RE: Do we think anyone else would sign Perkins?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:48 pm : link
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Honestly?


He was a very productive college player and well regarded prospect.We're not talking about some 6th round bum.
Dave  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:48 pm : link
King was clearly unsure based on his route - or lack thereof. His job there is to clear the safety. And all that is is getting the safety to break down on his movement to clear the other receiver. Instead, he got confused for whatever reason and didn't run a route. You or I could have done what he did.

That ball is either a TD or an incompletion.

RE: Perkins is on the roster  
Rick5 : 9/1/2016 8:48 pm : link
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some of you are confused.

Agreed. O% chance that Perkins isn't making the team.
RE: RE: I've gotta believe that Williams has made the team already.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:49 pm : link
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I think that it's between Darkwa and Perkins for the last spot.


Perkins is a draft pick. He'll make the team. It's between Williams and Darkwa.


Tell that to DeAndre Wright and Stoney Woodson
RE: Dave  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:50 pm : link
In comment 13098903 B in ALB said:
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King was clearly unsure based on his route - or lack thereof. His job there is to clear the safety. And all that is is getting the safety to break down on his movement to clear the other receiver. Instead, he got confused for whatever reason and didn't run a route. You or I could have done what he did.

That ball is either a TD or an incompletion.


Thanks, I'm sure you are right as I know you used to actually play, so I will take your word for it. I just wish Nassib would've seen the Safety coming from a mile way. No biggie and thanks for the clarification.
Perkins  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:51 pm : link
is on the team. Only question is whether it's Darkwa or Williams. My guess is that it's Williams, but Darkwa might force them to keep five RBs. Could compensate with only 8 OL. Beatty, Hart, and one other, with more on the PS.

I wonder if Reese could trade some of these guys as a package for a low round pick.
Williams is also a draft pick  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 8:51 pm : link
Has better size than anyone else, has looked as good, if not better, than any other back this year. There is no real reason to drop him in favor of anyone else.
These threads kill me  
UberAlias : 9/1/2016 8:51 pm : link
There aren't nearly as many spots for grabs here. Some names mentioned are locks and have been. More like vying for playing time.
Brady is finally out.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:51 pm : link
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RE: RE: Dave  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:52 pm : link
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King was clearly unsure based on his route - or lack thereof. His job there is to clear the safety. And all that is is getting the safety to break down on his movement to clear the other receiver. Instead, he got confused for whatever reason and didn't run a route. You or I could have done what he did.

That ball is either a TD or an incompletion.




Thanks, I'm sure you are right as I know you used to actually play, so I will take your word for it. I just wish Nassib would've seen the Safety coming from a mile way. No biggie and thanks for the clarification.


Eh. Sorry for being a dick. It's just my take on the play. I could be a bit nicer about it bud.
Is it my imagination or is this defensive unit  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:52 pm : link
Playing with way more spirit this year? They look ready to hit.
RE: Do we think anyone else would sign Perkins?  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 8:53 pm : link
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Yes. I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting before the year is over.
RE: RE: RE: Dave  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:53 pm : link
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King was clearly unsure based on his route - or lack thereof. His job there is to clear the safety. And all that is is getting the safety to break down on his movement to clear the other receiver. Instead, he got confused for whatever reason and didn't run a route. You or I could have done what he did.

That ball is either a TD or an incompletion.




Thanks, I'm sure you are right as I know you used to actually play, so I will take your word for it. I just wish Nassib would've seen the Safety coming from a mile way. No biggie and thanks for the clarification.



Eh. Sorry for being a dick. It's just my take on the play. I could be a bit nicer about it bud.


It's cool. We're all itching for some real football at this point. Almost here, thankfully.
RE: RE: RE: I've gotta believe that Williams has made the team already.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:53 pm : link
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I think that it's between Darkwa and Perkins for the last spot.


Perkins is a draft pick. He'll make the team. It's between Williams and Darkwa.



Tell that to DeAndre Wright and Stoney Woodson


6th rounders vs. a 3rd rounder. This isn't even a question.
RE: RE: RE: I've gotta believe that Williams has made the team already.  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:54 pm : link
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I think that it's between Darkwa and Perkins for the last spot.


Perkins is a draft pick. He'll make the team. It's between Williams and Darkwa.



Tell that to DeAndre Wright and Stoney Woodson

Woodson was placed on IR. Wright never made it past a practice squad.
Kerry Wynn continuing to make plays,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:54 pm : link
or get pressure, in this case.
Wynn has always made plays  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 8:55 pm : link
Except as a starter. As a depth guy, I thinks he's a pretty good player.
RE: Is it my imagination or is this defensive unit  
UberAlias : 9/1/2016 8:56 pm : link
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Playing with way more spirit this year? They look ready to hit.
I may be killed for saying but they played with more spirit than previously last year. They just lacked in talent. Utterly.
RE: Is it my imagination or is this defensive unit  
Giants2012 : 9/1/2016 8:56 pm : link
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The year hasn't even started.
I'm on edge  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 8:56 pm : link
My son plays his first HS game tomorrow.

Fuckin hell.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I've gotta believe that Williams has made the team already.  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 8:56 pm : link
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I think that it's between Darkwa and Perkins for the last spot.


Perkins is a draft pick. He'll make the team. It's between Williams and Darkwa.



Tell that to DeAndre Wright and Stoney Woodson



6th rounders vs. a 3rd rounder. This isn't even a question.
who's the third rounder?
Wonder if Williams will come out here.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:56 pm : link
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RE: Kerry Wynn continuing to make plays,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 8:56 pm : link
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or get pressure, in this case.


He may have found his depth as a high-end backup. You could do a lot worse for your 4th best DE. Amazing that he was a starter last year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I've gotta believe that Williams has made the team already.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 8:57 pm : link
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Perkins is a draft pick. He'll make the team. It's between Williams and Darkwa.



Tell that to DeAndre Wright and Stoney Woodson



6th rounders vs. a 3rd rounder. This isn't even a question.


Who is the 3rd rounder? Perkins is a 5th round pick.
RE: I'm on edge  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 8:57 pm : link
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My son plays his first HS game tomorrow.

Fuckin hell.
For Shen? Big time.
RE: Kerry Wynn continuing to make plays,  
SGMen : 9/1/2016 8:57 pm : link
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Kerry Wynn has to have made this team with Okwara. 5 DE's and 4 DT's. HAs to be the case.
Aaaand Williams is in there now.  
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RE: Williams is also a draft pick  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 8:57 pm : link
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Has better size than anyone else, has looked as good, if not better, than any other back this year. There is no real reason to drop him in favor of anyone else.

IMHO it's his drops (can't catch) that is the reason. I'll say again, square peg, round hole. He'd be far better on a more run friendly (power running) team. That's not this offense.
RE: RE: Someone refresh my memory  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/1/2016 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13098527 jeff57 said:
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Why didn't the Giants sign Martellus Bennet as a free agent?


Ask Jerry


Maybe because he wasn't a free agent
Whoa, nice catch there  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:58 pm : link
and good block by Williams.
King  
Mike in NY : 9/1/2016 8:59 pm : link
Cementing a roster spot
Nassib to King!  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 8:59 pm : link
59 yard TD.
King with the SPEED  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/1/2016 8:59 pm : link
TD
RE: Nassib to King!  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 8:59 pm : link
In comment 13098941 Dave in Hoboken said:
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59 yard TD.


damnit! im on a lag
Nice  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 8:59 pm : link
throw by Nassib. Great acceleration by King.

TD GIANTS!
LOL Nassib happy to see Williams out there  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:00 pm : link
..
He's in the team?  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/1/2016 9:00 pm : link
Lol would be something if he didnt
King  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:00 pm : link
Showing the Wheels late bloomer but he is a nice weapon .
RE: RE: I'm on edge  
B in ALB : 9/1/2016 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13098933 Bill L said:
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My son plays his first HS game tomorrow.

Fuckin hell.

For Shen? Big time.


Yup. 14 years old.
King with the Usain Bolt celebration.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:01 pm : link
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King has cemented  
section125 : 9/1/2016 9:01 pm : link
his job. He can fly.
might have to keep 7 wr's  
gtt350 : 9/1/2016 9:01 pm : link
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Nassib to King !!!??  
short lease : 9/1/2016 9:01 pm : link
You can't stop that combo .... you can only hope to contain it.
King has easily made this roster  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:01 pm : link
..
King is smooth  
chris r : 9/1/2016 9:01 pm : link
he's like a paupers Isaac Bruce.
RE: RE: RE: I'm on edge  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 9:02 pm : link
In comment 13098948 B in ALB said:
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My son plays his first HS game tomorrow.

Fuckin hell.

For Shen? Big time.



Yup. 14 years old.
good luck to him.
King keeps putting himself in the conversation.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 9:02 pm : link
I didn't think he could make that kind of play.
RE: I'm on edge  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:02 pm : link
In comment 13098927 B in ALB said:
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My son plays his first HS game tomorrow.

Fuckin hell.


Missed your post. Congrats, and good luck.
Maybe King has a chance to stick now lol  
UberAlias : 9/1/2016 9:02 pm : link
He's pushing for a more prominent role.
I said I was going to focus on the WR's tonight and well I'm just  
SGMen : 9/1/2016 9:03 pm : link
IMPRESSED!

WR roster: OBJ, Shepard, Cruz, Davis, King, Harris

PS: Lewis, Powe - assuming they make it through waivers.

RB roster: Jennings, Vereen, Perkins (inactive early in season), Dwarka (maybe it is Williams but Williams doesn't play specials at all as I understand it. This is the toughest "cut" competition.
RE: I'm on edge  
David in LA : 9/1/2016 9:03 pm : link
In comment 13098927 B in ALB said:
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My son plays his first HS game tomorrow.

Fuckin hell.


Good luck tomorrow B!
B in ALB  
xman : 9/1/2016 9:03 pm : link
what position
Anyone else having trouble  
Andy in Boston : 9/1/2016 9:03 pm : link
Seeing game on NFL mobile? My game pass is now not working
Fuck shen  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 9:03 pm : link
TOGA
RE: might have to keep 7 wr's  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:03 pm : link
In comment 13098951 gtt350 said:
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Who are the seven? OBJ, Shep, Cruz, Davis, Harris, Lewis, King?

I've gotta say that keeping Cruz may be the biggest gamble.
Wish they could find a spot  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:08 pm : link
for Rainey ....
Damn hamster  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 9:08 pm : link
I think we keep 7wrs
Rainey making things happen.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:08 pm : link
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Can't see Rainey making the team unless Harris is hurt more than  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:09 pm : link
the team has let on and goes on IR.
Just based on this summers game performance  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 9:09 pm : link
I could t justify keeping either Cruz or Harris
GREEN MACHINE  
WeekendLife56 : 9/1/2016 9:10 pm : link
Played for SHEN on the 02 team, lost to Webster-Schroeder in the carrier dome. Go SHEN
RE: Rainey making things happen.  
HomerJones45 : 9/1/2016 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13098971 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Don't get fooled- 29 year old NFL vet playing against guys who will be cut by Friday.
RE: RE: Rainey making things happen.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:11 pm : link
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Don't get fooled- 29 year old NFL vet playing against guys who will be cut by Friday.


I know. Just saying he made a nice play. That's all.
When the Gmen get to 53, they need to keep the best players.  
Boy Cord : 9/1/2016 9:11 pm : link
That means 7 WRs and 5 RBs today. Try to work a trade for an upgrade on the OL.
JPP will not have a future  
xman : 9/1/2016 9:11 pm : link
in broadcasting
RE: RE: Rainey making things happen.  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13098977 HomerJones45 said:
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Don't get fooled- 29 year old NFL vet playing against guys who will be cut by Friday.


Some of the opinions based on a handful of preseason game plays are hilarious.
RE: Just based on this summers game performance  
section125 : 9/1/2016 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13098974 Bill L said:
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I could t justify keeping either Cruz or Harris



?????
RE: GREEN MACHINE  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13098976 WeekendLife56 said:
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Played for SHEN on the 02 team, lost to Webster-Schroeder in the carrier dome. Go SHEN
just so we don't get put of hand, I congratulate B and wish his son well.

Beyond that, I *despise*Shen. Although, I don't follows HS football.

But soccer-wise, I despise Shen. Go Bethlehem!
RE: RE: RE: I'm on edge  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13098948 B in ALB said:
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My son plays his first HS game tomorrow.

Fuckin hell.

For Shen? Big time.



Yup. 14 years old.


Congrats. Hope he kicks serious ass. Man I kinda envious. Must be a great feeling.
No way they keep 5 RB  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 9:14 pm : link
What happens in preseason games is only part of the way the final 53 gets calculated.

Rainey isn't some magic find. He's a veteran journeyman playing in garbage time against 3rd and 4th stringers.
RE: Just based on this summers game performance  
UberAlias : 9/1/2016 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13098974 Bill L said:
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I could t justify keeping either Cruz or Harris
yes. And new head coach puts everything on the table.
RE: I'm on edge  
batman11 : 9/1/2016 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13098927 B in ALB said:
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My son plays his first HS game tomorrow.

Fuckin hell.


B,
Good luck to your son and you. Enjoy the ride. It goes by quickly.
RE: No way they keep 5 RB  
Boy Cord : 9/1/2016 9:16 pm : link
In comment 13098991 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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What happens in preseason games is only part of the way the final 53 gets calculated.

Rainey isn't some magic find. He's a veteran journeyman playing in garbage time against 3rd and 4th stringers.


They don't enter the season with five, but they can keep five into early next week.
RE: RE: RE: Rainey making things happen.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:17 pm : link
In comment 13098985 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Don't get fooled- 29 year old NFL vet playing against guys who will be cut by Friday.



Some of the opinions based on a handful of preseason game plays are hilarious.


So, you can't compliment a player for making a good play. Saying "nice play" implies that person thinks that player will make the team?

Christ, this place sucks.
Mark Herzlich blowing thru the line like LT tells you  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 9:17 pm : link
All you need to know about what you're watching,
LOL King may be our 2nd best receiver  
Coach Mason : 9/1/2016 9:18 pm : link
Shepard hasn't shown that much (yet) and Cruz is still an unknown in his recovery.
RE: RE: Just based on this summers game performance  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13098992 UberAlias said:
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I could t justify keeping either Cruz or Harris

yes. And new head coach puts everything on the table.
you could argue that for Harris, although I can only recall seeing him on the fired as a receiver maybe once? But it's hard to believe they're hiding Cruz. It's likely that for him what you see is what you get.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Rainey making things happen.  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:19 pm : link
In comment 13098996 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Don't get fooled- 29 year old NFL vet playing against guys who will be cut by Friday.



Some of the opinions based on a handful of preseason game plays are hilarious.



So, you can't compliment a player for making a good play. Saying "nice play" implies that person thinks that player will make the team?

Christ, this place sucks.


Did I say that? Some are suggesting certain players are locks to make it or be cut based on this game.
I'd start Nassib against Dallas  
Giants2012 : 9/1/2016 9:19 pm : link
after this performance
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rainey making things happen.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:20 pm : link
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Don't get fooled- 29 year old NFL vet playing against guys who will be cut by Friday.



Some of the opinions based on a handful of preseason game plays are hilarious.



So, you can't compliment a player for making a good play. Saying "nice play" implies that person thinks that player will make the team?

Christ, this place sucks.



Did I say that? Some are suggesting certain players are locks to make it or be cut based on this game.


Only because you responded to someone who said that because I said Rainey made a nice play. Other than that, no.
Patriot dude just hurdles right over Deayon  
Del Shofner : 9/1/2016 9:20 pm : link
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RE: LOL King may be our 2nd best receiver  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 9:21 pm : link
In comment 13099000 Coach Mason said:
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Shepard hasn't shown that much (yet) and Cruz is still an unknown in his recovery.


I wouldn't go by that. If they needed to see more from Shepard, he would be playing more than he has.

There's a reason he's been running with the first team since camp started, and it's not just because of Victor's injury.
Well, guys on the bubble who don't get in until the second half  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:21 pm : link
and then do poorly against 3rd stringers seem to be pretty good guesses to be cut...like Hunter, for example.
Herzlich brain dead tonight  
Ron Johnson : 9/1/2016 9:23 pm : link
playing his way off the team
Jesus Herzlich  
santacruzom : 9/1/2016 9:23 pm : link
That was mighty shitty of you.
stupid ahole play by  
chris r : 9/1/2016 9:23 pm : link
Herzlich.
Herz  
Pete in MD : 9/1/2016 9:24 pm : link
a little over enthusiastic there.
Neither JT Thomas nor  
section125 : 9/1/2016 9:24 pm : link
Mark Herzlich helping themselves.
Really a cheap shot by herzelich  
micky : 9/1/2016 9:24 pm : link
Idiot
RE: Patriot dude just hurdles right over Deayon  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13099006 Del Shofner said:
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They have been picking on him all preseason.

Bullies!
Really  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 9:24 pm : link
stupid by Herzlich.
Forget about the penalty  
EricJ : 9/1/2016 9:24 pm : link
it will be pretty shitty if this guy blows his chance due to an injury from a cheap shot
RE: RE: Patriot dude just hurdles right over Deayon  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13099018 Mason said:
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They have been picking on him all preseason.

Bullies!


Yup. He's not shown a lot.
RE: Herzlich brain dead tonight  
RobCarpenter : 9/1/2016 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13099011 Ron Johnson said:
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playing his way off the team


I don't know how he's been on the team for as long as he has. I hope they cut him!
I'm not sure he could have stopped  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:25 pm : link
It's a penalty but I don't see intent or a mistake on his part.
Shitty play by Herz.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:25 pm : link
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RE: RE: LOL King may be our 2nd best receiver  
Coach Mason : 9/1/2016 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13099007 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Shepard hasn't shown that much (yet) and Cruz is still an unknown in his recovery.



I wouldn't go by that. If they needed to see more from Shepard, he would be playing more than he has.

There's a reason he's been running with the first team since camp started, and it's not just because of Victor's injury.


I love Shep but he is still a green as grass rookie. He could come in out of the gates running but I wouldn't simply assume that either. King has played in the NFL for a few years and looks very fluid and fast.

Unfortunately after OBJ its a bunch of question marks for various reasons. Saying King could be the 2nd best guy (at least early in the season) is not as far a stretch as you may think.
RE: LOL King may be our 2nd best receiver  
SGMen : 9/1/2016 9:26 pm : link
In comment 13099000 Coach Mason said:
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Shepard hasn't shown that much (yet) and Cruz is still an unknown in his recovery.
Ummm...I doubt.

Pre-season is useful but doesn't mean much for who starts.

Our opening day wideouts will be of course OBJ, Shepard and Cruz....

4th WR could be T. King though.
herz  
WillieYoung : 9/1/2016 9:26 pm : link
Just lost his roster spot
RE: I'm not sure he could have stopped  
micky : 9/1/2016 9:26 pm : link
In comment 13099024 AP in Halfmoon said:
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It's a penalty but I don't see intent or a mistake on his part.


Lead by his helmet..couldve avoided..cheap shot
RE: Patriot dude just hurdles right over Deayon  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:26 pm : link
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I'm watching the Boston feed and they think that TE may be cut
I like the switch  
Gmen703 : 9/1/2016 9:27 pm : link
The Giants cbs ran on the pick play to end the third quarter.
Perkins and Darkwa  
mushroom : 9/1/2016 9:27 pm : link
Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game
Herzlitch .....  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:28 pm : link
needs to go his numbers don't justify keeping him anymore
great story by all accounts great guy ..
RE: RE: RE: LOL King may be our 2nd best receiver  
EricJ : 9/1/2016 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13099027 Coach Mason said:
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Saying King could be the 2nd best guy (at least early in the season) is not as far a stretch as you may think.


It is not just that. King may be the fastest WR on our team. His kind of speed changes how teams defend you. He makes one or two plays in the regular season like the play tonight and next thing you know safeties are backing off, it gets easier to run, etc etc
RE: RE: Patriot dude just hurdles right over Deayon  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13099032 AP in Halfmoon said:
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I'm watching the Boston feed and they think that TE may be cut


I'd love to get Bennett back instead.
RE: Forget about the penalty  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13099020 EricJ said:
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it will be pretty shitty if this guy blows his chance due to an injury from a cheap shot


That's all I was thinking about. Herz trying to impress coaches with a cheap hard hit.
King is looking very  
section125 : 9/1/2016 9:29 pm : link
good. I think the the top 4 receivers will be very good.
Replacement Referee  
Mike in NY : 9/1/2016 9:29 pm : link
Looks like he is about to drop dead
Christ.  
Patrick : 9/1/2016 9:30 pm : link
Hate to see a guy get hurt in the fourth quarter of the last meaningless game.
Cujo  
Jay in Toronto : 9/1/2016 9:31 pm : link
Playing great for camp fodder
RE: RE: RE: Patriot dude just hurdles right over Deayon  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:31 pm : link
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I'm watching the Boston feed and they think that TE may be cut



I'd love to get Bennett back instead.


They have him as number 2
I'm also impressed with the  
section125 : 9/1/2016 9:32 pm : link
DTs. Nix, Cudjo, Hughes - the backup DTs look very good. Not like having Kuhn in there..
Par for the course here same guy that said Beatty will never play  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:32 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: Rainey making things happen.
Dave in Hoboken : 9:17 pm : link : reply
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In comment 13098971 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Don't get fooled- 29 year old NFL vet playing against guys who will be cut by Friday.

here again .....

Some of the opinions based on a handful of preseason game plays are hilarious.


So, you can't compliment a player for making a good play. Saying "nice play" implies that person thinks that player will make the team?

Christ, this place sucks.
Wow, that shot if metlife  
Giants2012 : 9/1/2016 9:32 pm : link
reminds me of the grey Shawshank Redemption

Beautiful
RE: RE: Forget about the penalty  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:32 pm : link
In comment 13099038 Mason said:
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it will be pretty shitty if this guy blows his chance due to an injury from a cheap shot



That's all I was thinking about. Herz trying to impress coaches with a cheap hard hit.


Yeah, pulling up is easy when you're on the couch
Does anybody look worse in a Mohawk  
Giants2012 : 9/1/2016 9:33 pm : link
than Mark Herzlich?
CB Deayon  
SGMen : 9/1/2016 9:33 pm : link
He doesn't always make the play but he is always "in the play" and never looks truly beaten badly. At least not by what I have seen.
Due to his size, I think he can clear waivers and make it to our PS where he can continue to learn and put on some muscle.

CB: DRC, Jenkins, Apple, Hall, Wade
Safety: Collins, D. Thompson, Thompson, Behre

SS Adams makes it to the PS, Currie may also be PS
RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:34 pm : link
In comment 13099034 mushroom said:
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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game


Williams got in for two snaps. One he powers through the defense for 7 yards on his own. And on the 2nd he has to key block to let Nassib get the pass off to King for the TD. It was like night and day.
King was very impressive in the last 2 games  
Eric on Li : 9/1/2016 9:34 pm : link
I hope both he and Lewis stick, even if it means 7 WRs. Not worried about Shepard at all, and not even all that concerned with how Cruz looks. It takes time to come back from 2 years off - can't judge him off 20 preseason snaps.
I know it's preseason  
RobCarpenter : 9/1/2016 9:34 pm : link
But the delayed handoff is a play that should not see the light of day during the season
I  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 9:34 pm : link
wonder if Herlizch will be fined.
Two nice runs by Williams...the last seeing a hole and cutting to it.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:35 pm : link
He's quicker this year.
Nassib showing very poor arm strength.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:35 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: LOL King may be our 2nd best receiver  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 9:35 pm : link
In comment 13099027 Coach Mason said:
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Shepard hasn't shown that much (yet) and Cruz is still an unknown in his recovery.



I wouldn't go by that. If they needed to see more from Shepard, he would be playing more than he has.

There's a reason he's been running with the first team since camp started, and it's not just because of Victor's injury.



I love Shep but he is still a green as grass rookie. He could come in out of the gates running but I wouldn't simply assume that either. King has played in the NFL for a few years and looks very fluid and fast.

Unfortunately after OBJ its a bunch of question marks for various reasons. Saying King could be the 2nd best guy (at least early in the season) is not as far a stretch as you may think.


King has 2 career catches for 13 yards. He's been on 5 different teams.

I'm just not ready to buy this yet.
Nassib really is bad  
chris r : 9/1/2016 9:36 pm : link
just terrible.
STs,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:36 pm : link
yikes.
The Boston feed is embarrassing  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:36 pm : link
The worst football coverage in history
Glad Davis is back ...  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:36 pm : link
I think he is gonna surprize some this year ...
lewis has't had much of a chance to show anything ..
I wonder if he makes it ...
King was a standout all camp and continues to make plays  
UberAlias : 9/1/2016 9:37 pm : link
In PS. That is not meaningless. I would say he is a Dominick Hixon sort of talent.
RE: The Boston feed is embarrassing  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 9:37 pm : link
In comment 13099072 AP in Halfmoon said:
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The worst football coverage in history


haha - were they right about Bobby Hart though?
RE: RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13099060 Mason said:
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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game



Williams got in for two snaps. One he powers through the defense for 7 yards on his own. And on the 2nd he has to key block to let Nassib get the pass off to King for the TD. It was like night and day.


Yes against guys who will be flipping burgers next week
Watching the TV, listening to the radio call  
ChathamMark : 9/1/2016 9:38 pm : link
David Diehl sure knows the game. Who/Why this play missed, etc. Impressed.
King ...  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:38 pm : link
He may be just a late bloomer but he has shown good hands
runs good routes and has Speed ...
Whats not to like ???
RE: The Boston feed is embarrassing  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13099072 AP in Halfmoon said:
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The worst football coverage in history

I'm stuck watching online. I tried a link with Banks and Papa but the picture is far worse than the ones with Pats coverage.
Hope Hart  
Doomster : 9/1/2016 9:38 pm : link
never has to play LT in the regular season....
Hart not looking particularly great..  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:39 pm : link
..
RE: RE: The Boston feed is embarrassing  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:39 pm : link
In comment 13099075 mattlawson said:
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The worst football coverage in history



haha - were they right about Bobby Hart though?


I think they've mentioned the Giants players about 4 times.
links to stream  
Peppers : 9/1/2016 9:39 pm : link
Anyone know where I can stream it? Thanks
Lewis  
DavidinBMNY : 9/1/2016 9:40 pm : link
Has done nothing. You can't make the team in practice only.
RE: RE: RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13099076 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game



Williams got in for two snaps. One he powers through the defense for 7 yards on his own. And on the 2nd he has to key block to let Nassib get the pass off to King for the TD. It was like night and day.



Yes against guys who will be flipping burgers next week


yawn... against the same guys you said Perkins was impressive against except he wasn't and cause him to fumble.

Try again.
Way to hustle  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:40 pm : link
Stansley
Herz just exudes the suck  
RobCarpenter : 9/1/2016 9:41 pm : link
..
Well, that was dumb  
Bill L : 9/1/2016 9:41 pm : link
Risky Rainey
Rainey took a shot there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:42 pm : link
Man, if STs continue to suck this year, that would be quite annoying..
Hart's looked terrible.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:43 pm : link
No mobility for an OT, and was awful at LG last week. Not sure who our OL reserves are gonna be, but I'm hoping that we bring in some vets who can still play off waivers.
Question what  
XBRONX : 9/1/2016 9:43 pm : link
OL player has shown the most improvement under Solari?
Logan Thomas in.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:43 pm : link
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RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
santacruzom : 9/1/2016 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13099034 mushroom said:
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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game


Darkwa seems to be the back who most consistently moves defenders backwards and surges through piles... how is he less of a power back than Williams?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13099086 Mason said:
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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game



Williams got in for two snaps. One he powers through the defense for 7 yards on his own. And on the 2nd he has to key block to let Nassib get the pass off to King for the TD. It was like night and day.



Yes against guys who will be flipping burgers next week



yawn... against the same guys you said Perkins was impressive against except he wasn't and cause him to fumble.

Try again.


Factually incorrect. Other than that.....
Logan  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 9:44 pm : link
Thomas is in at QB. Va. Tech product. That should make Greg from LI happy.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Perkins and Darkwa  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13099099 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Have somewhat similar skillsets,Williams is the only "power" back. Just think Darkwa gets caught in a numbers/draft pick game



Williams got in for two snaps. One he powers through the defense for 7 yards on his own. And on the 2nd he has to key block to let Nassib get the pass off to King for the TD. It was like night and day.



Yes against guys who will be flipping burgers next week



yawn... against the same guys you said Perkins was impressive against except he wasn't and cause him to fumble.

Try again.



Factually incorrect. Other than that.....


okay. sure champ.
Way to go, Logan.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:46 pm : link
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Rainey> Williams  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:49 pm : link
Pass receiving and Return ability ....
Better Runner ...
Wow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
Nice pass and catch right there.
Lewis ...Nice Play Bro ....  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
He needed that ...
Lewis  
DavidinBMNY : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
Finally. He is a much better on that type of route.
Needs..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
to work on a better celebration!
Rainey has definitely  
EricJ : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
impressed enough to make SOMEONE'S roster after tonight's performance.
Nice  
AcidTest : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
throw and catch from Logan to Lewis.
Great throw!!  
dune69 : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
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Well, Thomas has the much better arm.  
yatqb : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
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amazing throw  
chris r : 9/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
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RE: Rainey> Williams  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:52 pm : link
In comment 13099109 Bluesbreaker said:
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Pass receiving and Return ability ....
Better Runner ...


And blocker
nice play  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/1/2016 9:52 pm : link
why isn't Logan starting?
Nice to see Lewis flash his potential  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 9:53 pm : link
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Looks more like Williams is competing  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 9:54 pm : link
against Rainey to me. Both may be fighting for their next team.
Is Logan PS eligible ?  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/1/2016 9:55 pm : link
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RE: Looks more like Williams is competing  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:56 pm : link
In comment 13099132 USAF NYG Fan said:
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against Rainey to me. Both may be fighting for their next team.


I doubt it. Both have been good tonight though.
Also don't assume Jennings is a sure thing.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 9:58 pm : link
Last year should be evident for anyone who remembers.
RE: Hart's looked terrible.  
section125 : 9/1/2016 10:00 pm : link
In comment 13099095 yatqb said:
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No mobility for an OT, and was awful at LG last week. Not sure who our OL reserves are gonna be, but I'm hoping that we bring in some vets who can still play off waivers.


I strongly disagree. He screwed up a few plays, but he played pretty well. Mingo gave him a hard time, he's very fast.
What he does do is drop back to deep and then sets against a moving target. He's out of his stance quickly but drops back about 3 yds, stops and lets the DE get a head of steam. He's plenty quick for a tackle.
They just cutoff the final 2 minutes  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/1/2016 10:01 pm : link
to see if Kaep was going to be sitting down during the anthem? WTF!
RE: Also don't assume Jennings is a sure thing.  
mattlawson : 9/1/2016 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13099138 Mason said:
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Last year should be evident for anyone who remembers.


What? Coughlin handcuffed him to sharing time. Only when the season was basically over did the Giants start running the ball well with 1 back. The way it should have been.
Hope  
Kivorka : 9/1/2016 10:02 pm : link
Rainey makes the team. Probably the quickest running back on the roster. Reminds me of Darren Sproles
Just a thought  
Marty866b : 9/1/2016 10:02 pm : link
I wonder if Kennard gets cut. He hasn't shown he can stay healthy and he has been invisible this preseason. If the Giants want to get faster on defense,Kennard doesn't help that cause.
RE: Hope  
Fish : 9/1/2016 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13099152 Kivorka said:
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Rainey makes the team. Probably the quickest running back on the roster. Reminds me of Darren Sproles


Hope he makes it as well.


Also does Andre Williams ever kick it outside
Who's the guy with  
section125 : 9/1/2016 10:07 pm : link
Willie McGinest on NFL Network..\
RE: Just a thought  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 13099153 Marty866b said:
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I wonder if Kennard gets cut. He hasn't shown he can stay healthy and he has been invisible this preseason. If the Giants want to get faster on defense,Kennard doesn't help that cause.


I feel like this would only be a thing if you could argue that there was a better option for his position.

If your concern is speed, I don't think JT Thomas is faster. They have MLBs to spare, but that wouldn't be speed either.
King has been very good  
Bluesbreaker : 9/1/2016 10:07 pm : link
covering Kick offs and Punts ....
missed the first half - did Beatty play at all tonight?  
Del Shofner : 9/1/2016 10:07 pm : link
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RE: RE: Also don't assume Jennings is a sure thing.  
Mason : 9/1/2016 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13099150 mattlawson said:
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Last year should be evident for anyone who remembers.



What? Coughlin handcuffed him to sharing time. Only when the season was basically over did the Giants start running the ball well with 1 back. The way it should have been.


I'm talking about Jameel McClain. One moment he was a guarantee starter doing an interview with Bruce Beck on Thursday about the upcoming season and cut on Saturday.
Did i read  
dep026 : 9/1/2016 10:09 pm : link
that flowers struggled, again?
RE: Did i read  
section125 : 9/1/2016 10:10 pm : link
In comment 13099181 dep026 said:
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that flowers struggled, again?


Yeah the 1st line wasn't too good again.
RE: Did i read  
BigBlueShock : 9/1/2016 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13099181 dep026 said:
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that flowers struggled, again?

Yes. He struggled again. I have to admit, I've been in Flowers' corner, but damn, I'm starting to get concerned. I hope he proves us all wrong.
RE: They just cutoff the final 2 minutes  
short lease : 9/1/2016 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13099148 USAF NYG Fan said:
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to see if Kaep was going to be sitting down during the anthem? WTF!


He did (sit) ... Call me characterless but, I don't understand why one would jeopardize future earnings as a spokesman (for whatever - even local markets pay pretty well to big name athletes) - like he did. I don't think he thought it all out. There are other ways to stage a protest without being so polarizing. One freak injury and career over. Even if he retires normally - he still has to find a job after football. I hope he saves his money.
Wow - not a single roster decision settled by injury!  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/1/2016 10:12 pm : link
That has to be the biggest story of the pre-season.

(I guess you could point to Stingily, but Beatty looks like an upgrade anyway.)
TTH  
Marty866b : 9/1/2016 10:12 pm : link
Yeah but I wouldn't count too much on Kennard. He hasn't been healthy going back to high school where he tore up his knee as a junior and was constantly hurt at USC.
RE: Who's the guy with  
Saos1n : 9/1/2016 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13099171 section125 said:
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Willie McGinest on NFL Network..\


Heath Evans

Former FB for the Seahawks, Saints, Dolphins and Patriots
RE: They just cutoff the final 2 minutes  
Mike in Philly : 9/1/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13099148 USAF NYG Fan said:
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to see if Kaep was going to be sitting down during the anthem? WTF!

Agreed. That was BS. I turned if off and going to bed. So sick and tired of hearing about the Kaep crap...
RE: They just cutoff the final 2 minutes  
bob_in_ec : 9/1/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13099148 USAF NYG Fan said:
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to see if Kaep was going to be sitting down during the anthem? WTF!


I'm really pissed - I watched the game for three hours and
they cutoff the final 2 minutes to show a player siting during the national anthem and then just blabbed on about nothing in particular.
Not on the local Chanel in CT  
Carl in CT : 9/1/2016 10:30 pm : link
They showed the whole game.
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