All during the spring and preseason, most of us have been pessimistic about the performance of the offensive line, the players, and their abilities. Our concerns seem to have been borne out in the preseason games. Management (the front office and coaches) have seen what we have seen. Yet, very little was done during the spring and, other than signing Will Beatty, little change was made during the preseason games and in the last few days. Why does management clearly disagree with us and most of the beat writers? I van only think of three reasons. Management is OK with the players the Giants have. Or, management (Reese in particular) and the coaches are poor evaluators of talent. Or, management just is obstinate and not willing to admit to their mistakes in personnel decisions. Opinions?
With a #10 defense we are a championship contender.
Do not read anything into preseason.
Who has been struggling badly at RT? Not sure how that helps us.
The build is in progress and we knew it would likely go beyond the 2016 cycle.
They pretty clearly need to improve their scouting and decision process for the OL, not unlike the need to improve the LB process.
A ton of LTs? Seriously?
Monroe retired, Penn blew us off, we weren't going to trade for Clady, and oft-injured Okung preferred to sign with the world champions. Have I left anyone out?
As for Conklin - and remember, prior to the draft I started a thread titled, "Give me Jack Conklin or give me death" - there's no indication that he would have been the Giants' pick if he was still on the board. And if the Giants were hell-bent on drafting another O-Lineman in the 1st Round they could have had Taylor Decker. Clearly they preferred Apple to Decker, and throughout the rest of the draft they passed on several decent O-Line prospects in favor of other players at different positions, and honestly, I can't fault them for that.
And. Even if we do win, that would not preclude better ways.
As for details, who has time for that? Better you add those, if you have time, as opposed to wasting yours on status quo.
And. Even if we do win, that would not preclude better ways.
As for details, who has time for that? Better you add those, if you have time, as opposed to wasting yours on status quo.
Yeah, who needs details? It's not like they're important or anything. It's so much better to wax philosophically about what the Giants should do without getting caught up in those pesky details.
And you have the gall to throw "rhetoric" in my face? What have you ever proposed that isn't simply rhetoric? Puh-leeze. You don't understand the free agent market, so you dismiss it out of hand. That's brilliant. You don't understand how a team is put together, so you dismiss that out of hand, too. Even more brilliance.
Climb down from your ivory tower and find your place in the real world.
We addressed the D with lots of talented and mostly YOUNG players. No stopgaps..They will be with us for at least Eli's remaining years imv..
We can move the ball. If it's mostly through the air (a la Brady) then so be it..Our D is what will or should get us to the Tourney along with our franchise QB and his weapons, imv
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Was thinking about your point, flowers being 21. Ya, I would say let the kid play.. I get now why you keep flowers there @ LT. Given the recent injury issues, it's even more "go with youth" and it should be IMO.
The kid has the important requisites to do well at OLT, imv..He's a friggin' warrior, mean and plays to the whistle..Being 21 allows him to hone his craft, learn better technique, etc..
Worst case scenario? He eventually moves to ORT..But for now, you non-experts need to let the kid play and develop and mesh with his OL mates as the season progresses..
Yep, i think flowers should have another year at LT before he is moved. Have to give him another year, new OL coach etc. Its the right call, thanks for getting me there ;)
Otherwise not sure who your comments are directed to or what the basis is.
Management/FO totally disregarded the lack of a running game that could have won at least 2 or 3 games not relying on the D.
Just because they ended up with a #8 offensive ranking doesn't mean you don't try to improve. Not getting ANY lineman or a blocking TE of some sort is really going to bite them in the ass and may be the difference in making the playoffs!
Who were the players that they didn't sign because they didn't want to move Flowers to RT?
What flucking problems? The season hasn't started yet!
Another way these conversations get hung up is on the fallacious logic that if player A is a mediocre guard that he could never be a better tackle or that tackles can automatically play guard. Each player is different.
You never know Pugh's upside at left until you try.