Amani Toomer in post game show just blasted TC

Thurmond? Bahahahah

And completely irregular.

In comment 13115934 Greg from LI said:

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"protect the king" mode

And the same assholes are ripping Coughlin as usual.

It's just class.

... Sheppard turned wrong way and has to come back harder... rookie mistake ... he'll learn

In comment 13115902 I am Ninja said:

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We can start a great big circle jerk, but Romo wins this game.

I disagree. What would Romo have done that the kid didn't do?

Try to think before you speak.

by not trying to pick up a first down. I'm sitting her thinking, with this kicker's leg, they only need 2 good passes. It worked out, but I didn't like the call.

kid had a great game. didnt make any mistakes. but he wasnt going to gash us for chunk yardage down the field like Romo has done dozens of times. Hes just not there yet. I like him alot though.

In comment 13115960 baadbill said:

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... Sheppard turned wrong way and has to come back harder... rookie mistake ... he'll learn

I thought that too. He got tangled up and stopped playing football. It was clearly his mistake.

In comment 13116009 UberAlias said:

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by not trying to pick up a first down. I'm sitting her thinking, with this kicker's leg, they only need 2 good passes. It worked out, but I didn't like the call.

I think using time was the priority on that play. If they passed and it was incomplete they would have probably had time to win it at the end considering how close they came before time ran out.

I think he was smartly disciplined in that moment. Impressive for a rookie coaches first game.

while it was happening. I think you are reading too much into it. That's what he said, but it really wasn't presented in a negative way to me.

LOL.

interview. OK. I think it may be time for me to go to bed...

but there is some truth in it coughlin didnt understand the current way the game is played now he was using the parcells rules from 86-90 on game management but he didnt have the greatest defensive player in the history of the game to cover for failing in clock management that parcells did that defence was special and LT was on a different planet from every other defensive player in the league and had a strong supporting cast around him

they also did have the full IR squad this year with coughlin gone either we always wondered if the injury carnage every year was bad luck or coughlin and so far appears to be coughlin thou its fair to say could be the evening out of bad luck too time will tell

Also has taken shots at Eli over the years, I don't get him!

WOW : blueblood05& beyond : 7/6/05 8:45 AM
HE WAS AT CHAMPION HOBBIES IN SCOTCH PLAINS, NJ IT WAS AROUND 5:30PM THEY WERE THERE AROUND 7ISH HE HAD ON A TANK TOP "WIFE BEATER" ARMY SHORTS AND OPEN TOE SANDLES AND BALD HEAD NO WATCH NO JEWLES NOTHING, JUST REGULAR. WE WALKED OUT TO THE CAR, HE STOP AND LOOKED AND SAID WOW NICE SHOP MAYBE I'LL OPEN ONE

one more TD than Prescott. He might have found Witten more often. He might have also gambled more on some passes and ended up with an INT. Who knows, who cares?

In comment 13115902 I am Ninja said:

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We can start a great big circle jerk, but Romo wins this game.

I honestly don't think Romo would have played the game any better than Prescott did.

In comment 13116123 Big Al said:

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WOW : blueblood05& beyond : 7/6/05 8:45 AM HE WAS AT CHAMPION HOBBIES IN SCOTCH PLAINS, NJ IT WAS AROUND 5:30PM THEY WERE THERE AROUND 7ISH HE HAD ON A TANK TOP "WIFE BEATER" ARMY SHORTS AND OPEN TOE SANDLES AND BALD HEAD NO WATCH NO JEWLES NOTHING, JUST REGULAR. WE WALKED OUT TO THE CAR, HE STOP AND LOOKED AND SAID WOW NICE SHOP MAYBE I'LL OPEN ONE

LOL!

Toomer had way more issues working with Fassel. I thought he liked, or at least respected Coughlin.

In any case, I don't think anything about today's game is proof that Coughlin needed to go. Guys executed today. Last year, they didn't. Name one time last season when we called on the running game to close a game out, and they actually delivered.

And not just taking the outcome into account. Just think of what Dallas's offense could've done on that last drive, had they an 35 seconds to work with.

All it does is shit on Mac's first win as head coach. We already had the funeral and eulogy for coughlin.

I think Prescott is much more athletic. I think we would have sacked Romo a few times

I'm not sure what the big deal is. He's a dick and an asshole for saying that?

In comment 13116299 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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All it does is shit on Mac's first win as head coach. We already had the funeral and eulogy for coughlin.

Because Toomer is petty enough to bring him up in and interview after Mcadoo's first win.

boost his analyst street cred but he just comes as pathetic and bizarre. This is similar to his comment touting Romo as a better QB than Eli. We'll never know, but give TC the roster on the field today and he probably does well. Not taking anything away from McAdoo. His playing calling was very good. The team was poised and organized.

In comment 13116009 UberAlias said:

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by not trying to pick up a first down. I'm sitting her thinking, with this kicker's leg, they only need 2 good passes. It worked out, but I didn't like the call.

I had NO CHANCE of blowing it today! Find another moniker for McAdoo.

MAY have had his usual 2 turnovers vs. GMEN. Sack strip and an Int.

In comment 13116315 clatterbuck said:

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boost his analyst street cred but he just comes as pathetic and bizarre. This is similar to his comment touting Romo as a better QB than Eli. We'll never know, but give TC the roster on the field today and he probably does well. Not taking anything away from McAdoo. His playing calling was very good. The team was poised and organized.

Yeah I agree with you that with this roster they probably win if TC is still HC. But honestly who cares at this point.

The Ben McAdoo era has begun. That's all we fans should care about. TC will always be part of great Giant tradition and history but he is just that at this point part of their history. I'm looking forward to watching McAdoo's career as Giant HC unfold. it is an exciting time for a fan.

at all... Giants win an opening game ... against Dallas ... in McAdoo's first game as a HC ... what was his motivation for mentioning TC at all? Completely unnecessary (and made him look petty and totally without class).

In comment 13116352 baadbill said:

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at all... Giants win an opening game ... against Dallas ... in McAdoo's first game as a HC ... what was his motivation for mentioning TC at all? Completely unnecessary (and made him look petty and totally without class).

Those comments are your idea of "blasting" Coughlin?

Sounds like you're inventing a story.

In comment 13116368 Mr. Bungle said:

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In comment 13116352 baadbill said: Quote: at all... Giants win an opening game ... against Dallas ... in McAdoo's first game as a HC ... what was his motivation for mentioning TC at all? Completely unnecessary (and made him look petty and totally without class). Those comments are your idea of "blasting" Coughlin? Sounds like you're inventing a story.

What comments do you mean by "those comments"?

In comment 13116009 UberAlias said:

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by not trying to pick up a first down. I'm sitting her thinking, with this kicker's leg, they only need 2 good passes. It worked out, but I didn't like the call.

Or how about this: his decision won the game because they left Dallas with their rookie QB who has never run an end game 2 minute drill in his NFL life not enough time by running the ball and killing clock...

Banding together against Coughlin in spite of having their best individual and/or team successes with TC at the helm.

In comment 13115902 I am Ninja said:

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We can start a great big circle jerk, but Romo wins this game.

Phil Simms, Carl Banks and Lawrence Taylor win this game for sure. I'm guessing Emitt Irving and Aikman probably could have helped them too though. And Chuck Norris... He really would have fucked shit up today

The point was Romo being out was the game changer, not TC vs Mc. Try to keep up.

Moves in this one that were questionable. But they won so it's good coaching and it's paying some kind of dividend. LOL

How does anybody support Toomer wiith these comments? It's not about pro-TC agendas, Tooker simply sounds like a prick.

In comment 13116486 I am Ninja said:

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The point was Romo being out was the game changer, not TC vs Mc. Try to keep up.

When is Romo not out? Keep up.

Keep up.

In comment 13115904 baadbill said:

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In comment 13115883 Big Rick in FL said: Quote: I'm 27 so Coughlin has been our coach for almost half my life. I absolutely love Coughlin. I completely agree with Toomer. Coughlin made a lot of calls last year that led to losses. Also according to Walter Thurmond Coughlin was against modern medicine & that led to so many injuries. As of right now he seems to be correct. Because there was no reason at all to say it. Why be a fucking prick when you don't have to be?

He is paid to analyze games. He shouldn't say what he thinks?

It was clearly time for Coughlin to go. Nothing wrong with saying that. And the Giants did get rid of Coughlin. You have to be incredibly naive to believe that he left of his own free will.

Toomer is a commentator, He is allowed to have his opinion. I have zero issues with what he said, and I love Coughlin - but every coach has his time he needs to go.

BFD. Much ado about nothing. Typical jilted lover bullshit that gets thrown at Tiki.

Don't know how you can say that. One of the problems the Giants had was that they had to be careful rushing Prescott because of his mobility. They wouldn't have had to worry about that with Romo.

But my final take was he was saying, the Giants fired the coach because of 5 losses inside 2 minutes and you want to see dividends with that move. If the Giants would have lost on a last second FG you could make an argument what was the point of changing coaches.

I have never gotten the opinion Toomer was a big TC fan but in general they want to see the team win and I think a lot of the players that do commentary feel TC got too long of a leash for his 2 SB's.

In comment 13116009 UberAlias said:

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by not trying to pick up a first down. I'm sitting her thinking, with this kicker's leg, they only need 2 good passes. It worked out, but I didn't like the call.

I just can't see how I could have blown the game. After all, I'm not the coach. Try using a different nickname for McAdoo (out of common courtesy if nothing else).

In comment 13116780 Sonic Youth said:

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Toomer is a commentator, He is allowed to have his opinion. I have zero issues with what he said, and I love Coughlin - but every coach has his time he needs to go. BFD. Much ado about nothing. Typical jilted lover bullshit that gets thrown at Tiki.

I agree with you on Toomer. However, Tiki was something else completely. He discussed things that were said in the locker room and spoke for other players. Putting words in other players' mouths.

There are plenty of players who become commentators. They comment fairly on the game. They don't reveal things that were considered to be private. Players don't even do that when they change teams !

but the look on O'Hara's face after he said it spoke volumes.

In comment 13116016 I am Ninja said:

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kid had a great game. didnt make any mistakes. but he wasnt going to gash us for chunk yardage down the field like Romo has done dozens of times. Hes just not there yet. I like him alot though.

Maybe. Maybe not. It isn't really relevant, Romo is a China doll, and his career is likely over.

is really just negativity for the sake of it. Who gives a fuck? Enjoy the moment. Have a drink.

He said..

The Giants got rid of TC..

truth.. thats just a fact

Last year in the same situations they lost games..

again.. a fact

As a team you would want to see results from a regime change..

Not one of those things " blasted " TC...

Period..