We need to score when we are in the red zone. Not a fan of the amount of times we tried running the ball and did nothing. We have 3 good Wrs, I'd like us to be less conservative. It's amazing how much production we had today and yet no passing Tds for Eli.
1) The offense overall wasn't as bad as many are saying. They moved the ball. They shot themselves in gthe foot with the Cruz fumble, 3 huge drops, and those back to back holds. The Manning fumble really should have been overturned. OBJ had a decent game, but those 2 drops were 14 points.
2) I love that Vereen is getting more touches this year.
3) Why did they bring in Darkwa when they did?
4) Apple is the real deal.
5) This is the best tackling D we've had in at least a decade.
6) Some more of a pass rush would have been nice.
7) Bottom line, especially after last year, a win is a win is a win.
McAdoo about going for it on 4th: "I'd do it again" Â
Why are we saying this?? I don't get it...aside from the turnovers obviously. We can say the goal line stand sucked but whats so bad about completing nearly every pass and 415+ yards? Don't turn it over and they win by 2 tds
Gave up 2 TD so far. Holding one of the top O's to 13 puts. Love it, we don't win this type of game last ear. O will pull it together - the future is looking good so far.
It worked out exactly as you see it calculating the risk early in the game. Either we make it, or if we don't score, we hem them in and hold them . We held them, but the guy did get off a huge punt. I liked it at that point in the game.
1) The offense overall wasn't as bad as many are saying. They moved the ball. They shot themselves in gthe foot with the Cruz fumble, 3 huge drops, and those back to back holds. The Manning fumble really should have been overturned. OBJ had a decent game, but those 2 drops were 14 points.
2) I love that Vereen is getting more touches this year.
3) Why did they bring in Darkwa when they did?
4) Apple is the real deal.
5) This is the best tackling D we've had in at least a decade.
6) Some more of a pass rush would have been nice.
7) Bottom line, especially after last year, a win is a win is a win.
The Oline is ok, Newhouse got destroyed today. However what killed the offense is mistakes by key players
Cruz fumble.
Beckham drop was a TD. ( deep ball ).
It worked out exactly as you see it calculating the risk early in the game. Either we make it, or if we don't score, we hem them in and hold them . We held them, but the guy did get off a huge punt. I liked it at that point in the game.
me too. when you D is playing well you have great chance to get the ball back with a short field even if you fail on the 4th down score.
But I think it was criminal to not use Jennig in the goal line the two times you were there with a full three downs. It made no sense, to go with those shotgun draws with your smallest RB. How do you not put in your power back and just pound to in. They didn't even try. Hopefully
McAdoo learns how to better use his RBs in this situation, 100% of the time you Give it to your bruiser on the goal line if your running it.
a lot of it deserved he did a phenomenal job this offseason rebuilding this defense plus has done a great job in the draft over the past 3 years as well. Look at all the talent they have brought in over the past 3 years
Draft: Beckham, Richburg, Apple, Shepherd, Thompson, Bromley, Kennard, Berhe, Flowers, Collins, Odi, Hart, Goodson, Perkins, Adams
Free agency: DRC, Harrison, Vernon, Jenkins, Casillas, Robinson, Wynn, Hall, Tye, Harris, Jerry, Newhouse, Jennings, Vereen
Im not happy with how this Giants offensive is flowing. To many weapons including Odell to ve struggling against a bad Saints defense??! Not excuses. The offensive gameplan and oline must improve.
What do you think the odds would have been for a Giant victory if I told you before the game that the turnover ratio would be -3 and the Giant offense would not score a touchdown? Pretty long odds I'd say. Feels good to be 2-0. It's been awhile.
Yes weird game. Welcome to being a NY Giant fan. Â
Bottom of line though is Donnell dropped a touchdown, Cruz got mauled on a pass in the end zone and no call, Cruz overestimated himself on yards after catch and fumbled, Beckham dropped a perfect pass in the bucket.
We deserved to win that game, and in the end...we did.
would hold the Saints to 1 touchdown and less than 300 total yards? The run defense is punishing.
And, you know what? I don't think JPP did much in this game and Vernon was virtually invisible. Imagine if these guys start dominating. It could get scary.
(Besides Eli). Both played mediocre games, especially Vernon who was invisible. Yet we won and it should've been a comfortable win.
We have depth, we have an actual team this year.
Odell had 8 catches for over 80 yds
Invisible?
Did you actually watch the game?
Becham had a horrific game today. I dont even know how that can be questioned.
Horrific?
Maybe you need to learn the definition of the word?
Great....no
He was ok.....
If Rueben Randle dropped 2 TDs like OBJ did this week and put up some yards...everyone on BBI would say he was atrocious. We have to be consistent here. He had 2 chances to score.... dropped both.
Kept letting them hang around and we finally won it on a short FG.
I disagree. I think I remember that game and I think we played poorly on defense in that game, despite them not scoring that much. I think we played much better defensively today.
but after last weeks game, I thought Mc would somewhat feature Shepard, and hopeful he would have a good game, which he did.
Other than the apparent point killing turnovers, the passing O is playing out perfectly. Mc is featuring Shepard and Cruz which takes pressure off, OBJ AND puts pressure on future DCs in coverages.
I expect OBJ and also the use of Vereen(swing passes) to be featured next week. If that goes well, which I both hope and expect, the NFL will be on notice that the Giants are to be reckoned with.
We win that game by 20 points if we take care of the ball.
2) I love that Vereen is getting more touches this year.
3) Why did they bring in Darkwa when they did?
4) Apple is the real deal.
5) This is the best tackling D we've had in at least a decade.
6) Some more of a pass rush would have been nice.
7) Bottom line, especially after last year, a win is a win is a win.
Have to admit, was questioning the call late in the game
Have to admit, was questioning the call late in the game
Party like it's 1980-something
Why are we saying this?? I don't get it...aside from the turnovers obviously. We can say the goal line stand sucked but whats so bad about completing nearly every pass and 415+ yards? Don't turn it over and they win by 2 tds
But the positives. Great to see Shepard make plays and Cruz looks like the 2012 version of himself. And the D, OMG!
Have to admit, was questioning the call late in the game
I tell you if the Giants would have lost this game. Sports radio in NYC would have their story line for the week.
I can hear Francesa now
'You neva tak points off da bhord!'
The Saints couldn't do shit against our new look D.
Kept letting them hang around and we finally won it on a short FG.
2) I love that Vereen is getting more touches this year.
3) Why did they bring in Darkwa when they did?
4) Apple is the real deal.
5) This is the best tackling D we've had in at least a decade.
6) Some more of a pass rush would have been nice.
7) Bottom line, especially after last year, a win is a win is a win.
The Oline is ok, Newhouse got destroyed today. However what killed the offense is mistakes by key players
Cruz fumble.
Beckham drop was a TD. ( deep ball ).
me too. when you D is playing well you have great chance to get the ball back with a short field even if you fail on the 4th down score.
So did Howie Long on either the pregame or halftime show.
We win that game by 20 points if we take care of the ball.
Any game thread gems?
The Saints couldn't do shit against our new look D.
Don't forget Larry. That ball pop right off both his hands in the end zone while he was looking at it.
McAdoo learns how to better use his RBs in this situation, 100% of the time you Give it to your bruiser on the goal line if your running it.
Draft: Beckham, Richburg, Apple, Shepherd, Thompson, Bromley, Kennard, Berhe, Flowers, Collins, Odi, Hart, Goodson, Perkins, Adams
Free agency: DRC, Harrison, Vernon, Jenkins, Casillas, Robinson, Wynn, Hall, Tye, Harris, Jerry, Newhouse, Jennings, Vereen
He’s ready for rest of the season.. This is a perfect scenario .
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over 300 yards passing by taking what the D gave them and made the big throws when it counted. I really don't see the issues you guys do.
We win that game by 20 points if we take care of the ball.
Any game thread gems?
Please bring that thread back.
We deserved to win that game, and in the end...we did.
So have a drink since we are 2-0 and celebrate!
We have depth, we have an actual team this year.
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over 300 yards passing by taking what the D gave them and made the big throws when it counted. I really don't see the issues you guys do.
We win that game by 20 points if we take care of the ball.
Any game thread gems?
Please bring that thread back.
And, you know what? I don't think JPP did much in this game and Vernon was virtually invisible. Imagine if these guys start dominating. It could get scary.
We have depth, we have an actual team this year.
Odell had 8 catches for over 80 yds
Invisible?
Did you actually watch the game?
We have depth, we have an actual team this year.
Vernon had an excellent sack brought back by another's penalty.
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(Besides Eli). Both played mediocre games, especially Vernon who was invisible. Yet we won and it should've been a comfortable win.
We have depth, we have an actual team this year.
Odell had 8 catches for over 80 yds
Invisible?
Did you actually watch the game?
Becham had a horrific game today. I dont even know how that can be questioned.
Not sure Beatty will be ready by next week.
Not sure Beatty will be ready by next week.
Eric just posted.
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(Besides Eli). Both played mediocre games, especially Vernon who was invisible. Yet we won and it should've been a comfortable win.
We have depth, we have an actual team this year.
Odell had 8 catches for over 80 yds
Invisible?
Did you actually watch the game?
Becham had a horrific game today. I dont even know how that can be questioned.
Horrific?
Maybe you need to learn the definition of the word?
Great....no
He was ok.....
The passing game is dink and dunk. just can't get fully behind the WCO and this is not a good version of it IMO
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In comment 13128451 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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(Besides Eli). Both played mediocre games, especially Vernon who was invisible. Yet we won and it should've been a comfortable win.
We have depth, we have an actual team this year.
Odell had 8 catches for over 80 yds
Invisible?
Did you actually watch the game?
Becham had a horrific game today. I dont even know how that can be questioned.
Horrific?
Maybe you need to learn the definition of the word?
Great....no
He was ok.....
If Rueben Randle dropped 2 TDs like OBJ did this week and put up some yards...everyone on BBI would say he was atrocious. We have to be consistent here. He had 2 chances to score.... dropped both.
Kept letting them hang around and we finally won it on a short FG.
I disagree. I think I remember that game and I think we played poorly on defense in that game, despite them not scoring that much. I think we played much better defensively today.
Cruz, Odell, and Donnell made their share of bonehead plays, but we all have to be concerned when Newhouse faces a decent player.
Other than the apparent point killing turnovers, the passing O is playing out perfectly. Mc is featuring Shepard and Cruz which takes pressure off, OBJ AND puts pressure on future DCs in coverages.
I expect OBJ and also the use of Vereen(swing passes) to be featured next week. If that goes well, which I both hope and expect, the NFL will be on notice that the Giants are to be reckoned with.